DPReview TV: Canon EOS M6 Mark II Review
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2019
- This week Chris and Jordan review the new Canon EOS M6 Mark II mirrorless camera. Even if you're not interested in the camera, you should probably watch just to see Jordan sing a Dire Straits cover. Visit our sample gallery to see brand new images from the M6 II: www.dpreview.com/sample-galle...
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This is the reason I don't do camera reviews over on my channel (despite the requests) - DPReview videos are so brilliant that I couldn't compete! Nice work :-)
Maybe you could do a review of this camera with the speed booster and L lenses for us :)
Appreciate it! Love your lens reviews!
Best lens reviews on youtube!
Hey Christopher🤙🏽🤙🏽 so perfect to see a comment from my favorite lens reviewer on my favorite camera review channel!
Christopher do you know which lenses will use the full potential of the MP sensor for this camera? I'm thinking of the 35mm sigma art but open to recommendations
Superb review. Concise, clear, perceptive and you hit all the main points very honestly. Thanks!
I love watching these two guys from the camera store as it was one of the first review channels I started to watch.
Great work as always guys. Nice to see you have not lost touch with your roots as well. It was nice to meet Jordan today in the store
Great review, guys. Interesting what you're saying about most of the current lenses not being up to the resolution of the sensor. Canon are finally getting their sensor & focusing games together. Their AF has been great for years, but needed some improvement.
The BSI stacked sensor with IBIS they have in development (they filed patents last year and again this year) will probably be amazing. They also filed a patent for quad-pixel AF.
Nice intro too! 🙂
Great I really love this camera I agree on what you pointed out on pros and cons, bought this camera after watching some reviews and this is the one of the videos that pushed me to buy this camera over other competition. I also made an unboxing on m6 mark ii and its great! Btw. 24 is now available!
you guys are really taking the intro game to S1h level
Especially when Jordan crawl and cry like a baby on the ground. Honestly I don't really care about cameras, what I like to watch is these guys introducing gears.
Nice review guys and you beat me to it! I actually thought rolling shutter in video was pretty well controlled in my tests, but then I'd been using the A6400 previously. I also agree about the lenses - the 15-45mm is definitely not good enough, although i do like having that wider than average coverage at the short-end. x
Gordon Laing interested if the ef-s 10-18 would be good on this camera. Any thoughts?
I am thinking about replacing my 60D with this one
@@eddimaruyama it's cheaper than the EF-M 11-22mm, but obviously bigger especially with the adapter.
Gordon and Chris: What are your thoughts on how the EF-M 22mm will work with the new sensor?
doogieham Chris talked about this on the video. Resolving more than 24MP on an APS-C sensor is very difficult-and it’s perhaps the main reason APS-C has remained at 24MP for so long on so many cameras. Recently Fujifilm moved all the way up to 26MP, and Samsung swing for the fences with 28MP back in the day. I think 32 is overkill (almost as much as 80MP on FF will be).
Gordon Laing The rolling shutter should be better in video since Canon isn’t supersampling their footage from 6K to 4K, but is instead using good ol’ 2012-era line skipping, and it’s soft image quality. Also, 15mm on an EF-S sensor is like 16mm on other brands’ APS-C cameras (like Sony and Fuji, the latter of which *does* have a true 15mm zoom kit lens).
You can also use the EVF-DC1!!! I had a M3 and then a M6. I found the EVF-DC1 more versitile as it flips up and is great for taking videos of kids when you want the camera lower and you can look down into the EVF. Plus the DC1 is about half the cost of the DC2 since it's been out for longer.
That Canon M 32mm F1.4 is a gem! 😍
@@mikhailphoto31 lol
Lo es amigo. Tengo el 22, 28, 11-22, 55-200 y el 32. Y precisamente el 32 es el padre del resto de los lentes. El mejor !!
Jati Setiawan Not no, but heeeeelllll NO!!!👎
José Colón m.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-ef-m-32mm-f1-4-review/2
has abberation issues at 1.4. Thats eough to make it a no buy
Great review! I would love to hear/see a comparison from you between the M6 mkii and the M50, as one might argue that for instance the added resolution of the former is pointless until further developments on the lens front 😛
Very helpful review, even now in 2024 under consideration for a second-hand M6ii. Many thanks!
Nice reviews guys, like the way you guys do it!
What a great review. I got the M6 Mk II in January 2020. I knew this would be the EF-M swan song, and I have no regrets. The final native lens, the 32mm is one of the best lenses ever made.
Are you have any other lenses better for m6 ii
One of the reasons I bought this camera is the ergonomics and ease of use you mentioned. Sony Alphas may have better video capabilities, but M6 Mark II seemed like a more complete and convenient option for me
8:05 Loved the "patience" joke. And the shot. And the drums at 0:14!
Loving the Breakfast Club fist bump at 1:53 👏✊
Ikr!
The best intro so far 😂👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
1:45 Definitely get the thumbs up for sneaking in that reference.
Great review. Your reviews look gorgeous and flow smoothly. How hard is it to make the review look like you are just talking about the product to a friend? I'd love to see a detailed behind-the-scenes video of your process in making these reviews.
For example, how do you outline the review? Do you write a script, pick bullet points or do the dialog off-the-cuff? Do you have a crew or is it just the two of you? On this partly indoor shoot, do you use lighting? What is post like. Who edits it?
Thanks for making these reviews such a pleasure to watch.
I'd love to do a BTS episode in the future!
After spending some time with the camera, we do a short bullet-point outline of information that needs to be covered, then Chris and I spend a meal arguing over what our opinions are. We rarely have a crew, except for our Wooden Niccolls episodes. We use small lights when necessary, either a LumaHawk Shadowless 300 Round LED, or an Aputure COB 300D.
Chris edits his Raw files, and sends them off to me, and I edit the episodes. Full length reviews are generally two days of post, and shorts are a day.
Hope this gives you a bit of insight into our process, thanks for the kind words!
Interesting review! Excluding the kit lens, I never would have considered lenses not being up to the task. I'm using Canon's ef adapter on my M50 and don't care for the wiggle in the mount.
“Oh they’re nice they let us shoot here”
*Chris walks around the back and sits on a forklift like he owns the place* LOL
Great 32mpx, great iso performance, 14fps, best crop camera for stills is here, m6ii is in my shopping list
I referenced your review on my video "Movie Making Cameras from $600 to $1,000 Part ll in 2020". Thanks for your review!
Thanks for the review. I was seriously about to buy this but now thinking the video isn't quite there.
Great review - as a primarily Canon 5dMarkIV shooter, all I want is a decent alternative when I want to travel and not take a huge kit, so it looks like this camera with a 50mm equivalent prime would fit that niche perfectly.
Thanks for this review. I don't know about that 24p as i am shooting in 60 and 30p and it's not a problem for me
Finally, most awaited video
I usually shoot with an EVF on my Olympus Pen E-PM1, and I love the fact that it tilts for low angle shots. I know most people wouldn't care much about it, but for a rangefinder style camera, I find it essential.
Yeah, tilting EVF is very nice indeed! Surely more fragile, but can be truly useful. I really like it for low angle shots (which itself is often quite refreshing change to usual), but also sometimes when working with a tripod. I go in weird angles with the ballhead and tilting EVF can save the day. Good stuff!
@@villemononen5303 Honestly, tilty/rotatable EVFs on hybrid mirrorless cameras should be a lot more common by now.
But the screen tilts...
Patrick Rose Canon made a tiltable EVF for the M series. I have it on my M6. I chose that over the newer non-tiltable one for low to the ground work.
Interestingly though, the Canon EVF-DC2 doesn’t have a tilt facility. The larger, earlier EVF-DC1 does and it is probably compatible (both units have been compatible with previous Canons that take an accessory EVF).
about lenses: Sigma announced it will be releasing ef-m trio, most importantly 16mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4, combined with EF-M 32mm f1.4 and ef-m 22mm f2 - efm prime lens offering will be great value. Fast zooms for the tiny m6 is overkill way too costly (r&d investment)- adapting existing ef-s alternatives through m mount adapter makes more sense (gonna be huge anyway).
aumrdoc I don’t think it’s overkill when you’ve sold tons and tons of S35 cinema cameras that also need a 16-55mm f/2.8 stabilizer lens also.
This intro 😂😂Thank goodness the 24p is finally here!!
I still want to see an M5 MK II. Give it the same sensor/processor as on this one, built in EVF and joystick of the MK I, fully articulated screen and weather sealing comparable to the x0D line. Then just have to wait for the lenses to catch up.
Nice review! I hope the beer was good!
Loved this location for the review...
That intro took me to a different place 😁
Indeed love the intro
Nice review as usual. That 32mm 1.4 lens looks great.
Btw, Chris with a camera strap is an interesting change. :) What brand is it?
Thanks a lot for a very detailed informative video. 😊 Have you tried with the EF-M 11-22mm f4-5.6 lens? Though smaller maximum aperture it usually gave very high quality images with 24 mega pixel sensors. Please also try the EF-M 22 mm f2 for real how it really perform with the new sensor.
Your intros are hilarious keep it up. I’m using the Canon M50 I want to upgrade mainly for 4K video. What would you recommend this or the 90D? Thanks!
Excellent intro throwback.
Great review
I love the singing at the beginning - in a world overwhelmed by stupid pop melodies, it's good to hear an interesting line. Also agree with your statement, 24p video is awesome, gives the right look and better low light performance
BTW you can also connect EF lenses via a 3rd party focal reducer, which can make for some interesting focal length/aperture numbers (interesting for video too). IMHO Canon should make a first-party one.
Oh and the World is short on zoom lenses that look as good as good primes, especially at kit lens prices.
They should also turn out a higher-MP EVF option at some point - one of the advantages of it being modular. Provided they have the in-camera stuff to support that.
It wouldn't suit me, but for a lot of people the approachability is good.
Also worth a test with a 400/2.8 to see how much more detail you get than a 5Dsr/5DIV/etc... Way cheaper than getting a 600...
One thing I would like to know: Does the M6 Mark II turn off the auto exposure bracketing (AEB) as soon as anything is inserted into the hot shoe (e.g. like the view finder seen in this video)? The M6 Mark I unfortunately does that, it has a tiny switch under one of the metal flaps inside the hot shoe mount. This makes it impossible to shoot AEB with even a simple trigger, like you can on the 6D and other Canons.
Can’t use viewfinder and external flash at the same time?
Here we go!
Would this be good for a beginner? I am deciding on this or the Sony a6400. I will most likely be doing photography more than video. Pics of the city life and animals.
1:48. Epic move there. Love that movie
Regarding the shutter, would you say that this can be a problem with long time exposures? Is the EVF better than the M5? Great review, thanks for the impressions.
Would you choose this over the g7x mark iii for concerts and low light? What about the panasonic gh5 for photos at concerts?!
Love you guys. You have taught me a great deal about photography and film making. I’m looking for the best mirrorless or dslr for around $1200 (body only) to record my nieces. One is a gymnast and the other does local community theater. I will be purchasing a 70-200mm f2.8 lens for whatever body I choose as well. I’m looking for eye autofocus that functions in 4k. Some have suggested Sony a6600 (I’m a little concerned about the rolling shutter) others have suggested Canon M6 Mark ii (some have said eye autofocus doesn’t work in 4k) Any help would be appreciated.
So compared to Fuji Xt30 and m6ii, the choice is between uncropped 1.6x vs extra crop plus oversampling 4k?
Great! I've got a question. What kind of adapter do I have to use for M42 lenses? I tried a number of them. It says "No lens attached". On the flip side with 5D mark iii simplest adapters work no questions asked.
I use the 15/45 for milky way photos on an m5 and it works great
We need a flat-shaded polygon version of Jordan and Chris NOW!
Can someone get on this, please?
@@thatjordandrake 😍
How to mount external flash in case EVF is on, say for macro shots etc.?
A question for Jordan: For "4K" 30 fps, what kind of bitrates did you guys find (highest and typical)? Also, with Canon's announcement that 24fps will come in early next year, it will be interesting to see of "4K" 24 fps gives better files. I am looking forward to multi-camera "Crop Frame" comparisons.
hello according to your experience which will have better image quality in the video? Canon M6 Markt II OR SONY RX100 M7? THANK YOU
Apart from the dire song, what was the strap used with the M6ii? Great review btw.
Hello, what lens would you recommend for this camera for wide angle for real estate or for nature pictures?
Nice camera (I have one), but I'm not finding the dial function to be an improvement over a dedicated exposure compensation dial on the M6. It would be less fiddly if you could cycle through its options via repeated presses on the button. And how come it you dedicate it in the menu to exposure compensation you have to press the button before turning the dial does anything? I find that a needless extra step. I do like that the EVF is removable and you can still use the first EVF that tilts up. And how come Chris always looks too lightly dressed for the weather?
All I want is the perfect camera all I want is the perfect camera
Camera Conspiracies fan? Same here, man, same here. Where's the Canon hammer?
have u found one and which is it?
dang, that lady at 10:39 looked like a robot
In terms of sharpness and detail which one would you recommend me to buy, iPhone 12/13 Pro Max or Canon M6 Mark II? And my second question would be if Canon M6 Mark II can compete with iPhone 12/13 Pro Max in nnight and low light situations? Thanks in advance for your response.
According to the review, M6 mk II has a lot of great features. They look a bit overkill for me. I'm looking forward to watch Fujifim X-A7 review. 😛
5:50 have you had a few wobbly pops by this point or is it just the audio that is that much different lol
Great video. Thanks.
My A6400 is still within the return window. The sigma primes are massive except for the 56mm. Does the Canon M mount have better small primes than Sony. How does Sony 35 OSS compare with Canon 32 and the Sony 24 f1.8 vs Canon 22mm f2???
I just need those two focal lengths and need the camera to compact.
Thanks.
Hey Jordan these young gits don't have a clue what you just did in that intro. Bless their hearts LOL
I was aware I'd be alienating a lot of viewers with that...
I got it and it was AWESOME
Yep. That song was banned on Canadian Radio in 2011.
@@hankroest6836 why??
@@Raychristofer Best not to say anything here. The facts can be seen - at least at the moment I write this - in Wikipedia under Money for Nothing - the song.
when the full review of 90D is coming ?
Hi... Greetings from Indonesia. Really love your video, very informative. Pls advise, as I couldn't decide which one to choose: 18-150mm or 55-200mm? I already have 18-55 kit lens and 22mm fixed lens. Am looking for a telephoto lens, actually. So 55-200 would suit me best. Yet, 18-150 is really attractive as it can serve as all-rounder lense: wide and zoom at the same time. So, pls give me some advices here. Thanks... !
Amazing intro !
I have a very important question, please answer quickly with regard to the microphone. Is it possible to connect the microphone Rode to this camera or not compatible with it?
I want to use a wireless microphone
Thanks for your understanding
can I ask which camera you used to record this clip? just love the color!
Does this camera output audio through the HDMI port? If I use an external monitor, will I be able to use that to monitor audio?
In DXO lens there is review that they tell how many megapixel of max certain lens capability.
The way reviewers treat this issue...especially DxO...is a pet peeve of mine. Lenses do not "cap" sensors (or vice versa). Final resolution of an imaging system is always going to be less than the weakest component, but improving ANY component improves the final result. Note that this is not an opinion, it's scientifically demonstrated and the formula for computing it can be found online.
What does this mean in the real world? In the case of a M6 II the final image using a 15-45 zoom may not be as good as when using, say, a Sigma ART lens. But it will be better than the 15-45 on the old M6. So if you were happy with prints from the old M6 and 15-45 you are not going to be disappointed with the same lens on this new camera.
Lovin the intro more more more
Does Eos M6 Mark II autofocus work during recording and can you change focus points while recording? I have seen it does not work in slow motion, but does it work i normal mode?
24p is on its way to the 90d, RP, and the M6 II
Hey I've got a question, can I use the viewfinder while shooting video? Or is it only for photo?
Wow amazing Video! Thank you! may i ask with which camera have you filmed yourself at 11:06? :)
As of 13 Mar 2020, Canon M6 MkII firmware update added the option to capture movies in the frame rate of 23.98p.
Mind if I ask where you found that leather camera strap?
I have a m100, still rockin it to this day. Contemplating buying the 32mm lense. What does everyone think? I would rather keep the m100 body after seeing this video.
Hey guys, now that Canon has relented, can you also nag DJI to include 24 fps on their more affordable drones like the Spark and Mavic Mini? Even if it's just 1080p, that would make these products so much more useful!
Are these lens Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM and Sigma 24 - 105 mm f/4.0 DG HSM compatable with M6 mark 2??
Nice review
With all the cons mentioned, does it mean I have to stick to the first M6?
did you forget the 11-22mm zoom ? I think its the best in the system and up to this camera
Dpreview, it would be nice if you could show 1080p video quality.
I noticed there is no mention of Electronic First Curtain Shutter usage....I need that info. Reason being, and THANK YOU for mentioning the shutter slap potential issue. It's actually a HUGE item to consider with these high megapixel bodies.
I've been banging this drum for months since I've been experiencing odd focus issues with a new M50. My feeling is the body is just too light.
It doesn't have EFCS. The 90D has. I will do a test this weekend to see how bad the shutter slap could be. Both hand hold and on a heavy tripod.
Han He The M6 Mk2 does in fact have EFCS. It's in one of these reviews around here (panning issues). Also, I saw it in action at photoplus. All good. The panning stuff sucks but it's better than only relying on the shutter. these bodies are no longer made of metal, so if your lenses is too light, it will be blurry pics everywhere. M50 suffers from this greatly
There are lots of APSC EF lenses from Canon and Sigma. I don't see a problem with using the adapter.
But you start to trade weight for performance and at that point why not go for the RF system, seeing as you are going into a price range that's obviously higher than this intended market? Mirrorless doesn't just mean more compact bodies, it also means great quality lenses that can be smaller. See for example Sony's new 35 1.4 and 20 1.8. Also Nikon's doing a great job with these.
Love 💖🥰 your style show thank for all.
Every EF and EFS Lens I tested on the Canon EOS 6M mark 2 is sharper than the lenses that come with this camera. So I advise everybody to buy the original canon adapter and use your old lenses. You will get way better images with less grain. Regarding the IS, the kittens has build in IS, but you have to turn the IS in the camera menu to on too for filming.
What about sigma 16mm and 56mm
LOL @ 1:48 - nice Bender tribute!
This camera is in dire straits w/o 24p. Thanks for the review!
Yeah, and at this price you pay all the Money for Nothing!
Oh my god, maybe 12p or even 6p would be even "more cinematic"?
I predict 60p as the soon to come "bare minimum", and a standard. Gaming monitors have even 144 Hz refresh rate, because... slower frame rates are visible to human eyes.
nice review! when does the 90d review drop?
Can we get a Jordan video focused review of the omd em1 mk2 after the 3.1 firmware adding phase detect af to the video?
I am also thinking about getting that camera after the new firmware. I heard the new software has turned that camera into a great video cam. Watch Peter Forsgard, Red35 Photography and Kinotika's review on that.
A bit of a narrow topic, but I've got that camera so I'd love to hear what JD thinks of FW3.1 too. Especially if he has some tips for getting the most out of it - which, of course, he will.
I really wish my G5X II had the ability to select the focus point using the touchscreen while I am using the EVF.
It turns out that this is a setting that may be enabled in the menus. “Touch & drag AF settings”. It seems like just a simple touch should work in EVF but it does not. Bug?
Thanks for the review. Would be great if you could do a video of lenses you would recommend to go with the 6 mkii. Would be very helpful to me as I'm about the invest in this camera.
Well basically we said it in this video, the 32mm and 28mm M lenses should work well. We might review the sigma primes trio coming out soon but those should do a good job too. Canon needs to make a good pro like zoom though, desperately.
@@niccollsvideo thanks, I have a 28-105 redline EF mount. Will there be any issues using this lens with m6 mkii?
@@garygiles63 None at all Gary! Other than a crop factor of course.
@@niccollsvideo thanks
How does the M6 Mark II compare to the M50?