#59 - The guys go back in time to blind taste the beers of our fathers. Which 100+ year old American lager reigns supreme when they don't know which is which?
Yeah, it had been quite a while since either of us had a Yuengling and usually straight out of the bottle so we weren't clued in to the color yet. It's definitely different from the rest in color and flavor profile. Thanks for watching! Cheers🍻
I look at beer the same way my favorite great uncle who was a WW2 vet looked at beer. Whatever is cold and whatever someone else is buying is fine with me.
I’m sorry but you’d drink free piss? Is that what you’re saying?? Sorry I was at a ball game and my tickets included beer. It was coors light. I walked around the corner and paid good money for real beer.
Schlitz going back to their original recipe was one of the most exciting things to happen to macros in the last 20 years. In the sixties and early seventies, it was the most popular beer in the United States, leaving Bud at number two.
I'm glad to see the once mighty Schlitz beer is still going with their original recipe. With Budweiser's recent woes perhaps there's an opening for new Schlitz drinkers to give the brand a boost.
Yuengling is by far the best. You can drink it all night long and not get tired of the taste. It also has the best color out of all of the other beers and stands out beautifully.
Past Blue Ribbon has been my everyday choice for decades. It is clean and fresh tasting, with no odor or aftertaste. It is the beer that I reach for to accompany every meal (except breakfast!😁) I buy thirty (30) cans at a time at Wal-mart for less per ounce than I can buy cola! When I want a beer that "eats like a meal," I reach for Samuel Adams. Held up to sunlight in a Pilsner glass, it shows its gorgeous rufous color. It also is clean tasting, but filled with about half a-dozen flavors, and as maker Jim Koch says, "a head so thick, you can float a bottle cap on it!" A bottle of "Sammy" is always a treat for the senses of every beer lover!
Schlitz is really great too. U want a beer that is miles better than Sam Adams, buy Wernesgruner at Aldi's. Sam Adams is terrible to me and blows it away!
Ha I love that song. That was one of my ma's favorites too. When I was still in high school, she's get her boiler maker goin on on the weekends (bc we lived in a dry county at the time), and she had tapes of all the greats, and she'd play em loud while she cooked and danced and would have me drink beers and shots with her and tell me about the good old country music n stuff, SRV, and the golden oldies too, etc... That one ALWAYS got played at the house 🤙🏻
Fantastic! I love the history of the beers our fathers used to drink. I can still throw back some Bud and Shmidt from time to time, but I'm more of a "fancy" beer drinker now. Thanks for sharing.
Just stumbled onto this video and man I'm so glad I did! You guys are hilarious! My personal all time favorite of these would have to be Miller High Life but after about 5 or 6, it would be pretty hard to decipher which one is which lol.
My mom was a bartender/cocktail waitress her entire life. I grew up with so much free junk from distributors and about a million of those purple Crown Royal bags. But my prize possession was a wall-mounted Miller High Life sign that subtly lit my bedroom at night.
Bingo! In the 6o's Pabst and Schlitz, Falstaff, Coors, and Bud, all had the same, price points. Today you pay a premium for Coors, Bud, and Miller due to advertising costs.
I live in a college student ghetto and, judging from the empty beer cans that decorate their yards, the youth generation appears to really like Miller Lite, Coors lite, and Keystone Lite.
I own some farmland and I clean up litter in the ditches every year and that's what I see also. I think the most exotic beer I ever found was a Corona.
A great video and I'm glad Pabst at least placed. When my dad was a young man drinking with friends, Pabst was his beer of choice. It was apparently the fuel for many a "colorful tales" of his youth. It holds a special place for me and it's one I always drink in his honor and memory. It is also a favorite of the "cheap beers". I would probably get Schlitz a lot as well except I have a hard time finding in my area.
I can remember my dad drinking Schlitts, then Coors and even Michelob. He finally settled on Bud, then Bud light as he got into his 50s. I’m now going to be the same age as my dad when he went to be with our Lord and every year on his birthday I stop and grab a pepperoni pizza and a Bud. Personally, I enjoy craft beer, a good Belgian ale but my favorite beer at the moment since I live in Tokyo is Coedo White and Hitachino Nest, both Japanese craft beers. Seems a long way off but I can still remember my dad cracking open a Coors on a hot day after mowing the lawn in the 70s in Southern California and sharing a drink or two with me. Thanks for the memories.
Macro beer formulas have changed a lot over the years. Schlitz wrecked itself in the '70s with a formula update; the Schlitz in the test uses a 1960s recipe, so it naturally stands out. The Pabst of today is not the same as the Pabst I drank in the early '70s.
Yeah, no doubt none of them are the exact same as they started out in terms of ingredients and recipes. I wish I were able to taste how they were back in the day to compare 🍻
I'm in my 60's and back in the day I enjoyed Schaefer Beer, unavailable in stores for quite sometime a friend of mine ordered me a case from the liquor store a few years ago and it was okay but not quite what I remembered. Came to find out it's under Pabst umbrella now. Miller High Life is my choice now for American Lager style. Moosehead, Molson Canadian, or LaBatt's Blue I enjoy too.
My best beer? Hands down. When I was about 14 years old, some of my friends and I went up on the roof of a random 5 floor apartment building one summer night. We found a red cooler on the roof with about 6 cans of Bud, in with the coldest possible water. A few few ice cubes were still keeping them frosty. It was a warm night, we were running around the nearby town like usual. Those beers were delicious! Cracklin cold! To this day, I'm 52, those cold beers were the best! It was like the scene in the Shawshank Redemption when they got the beers after tarring the roof! Incredible! 😃🙃🤤😎🤠🤯👆 Miss those days, lol!
I remember that there was always a case of Schlitz in the back stairwell of my grandfather's house. He died in 1962. I don't know if it was a choice or if that was the only beer available in Sheboygan in the 1950s.
Seems like WW2 photos of GI’s drinking beer were overwhelmingly Schlitz. Growing up in the 50’s and 60’s most of my area taverns had Schlitz or Hamms signs hanging out front.
The ‘E’ in this study, the Narragansett Lager has been a favorite of mine for years! My personal choice for cheap beer. That’s just me, I honestly like it.
I didn't see this in comments at least near top of them. One of the biggest differences between Schlitz and other American beers is the grain that is used. They brewed with rice because near Milwaukee there were large areas with wild rice and it was cheap and easy to get. They meant to change back to the usuals but people liked it so much they kept it. Just one fun side note the beer factory that Lavern and Shirly worked at was called Shots Beer which was an homage to Schlitz.
PBR and Old Style in bottles are both great to me... In the dead heat of summer I like the "miller killers" the 7 oz bottles, 3 chugs and gone - they never get cold lol..
@@Mike-jv4rz It was a lot of fun trying to open those pull-tabs in the Winter as teenagers. "Hey, Shake get us a screwdriver". I remember it very well. Half the time, before Shake returned with the screwdriver, our cans of Schlitz, or Pabst were pretty much frozen. Brings back great memories.
Haha, yeah honest ignorance I'm afraid. I don't think either of us had seen a Yuengling outside of the bottle or can, or at least not in a long time. Believe it or not, it got edited out when trimming down the time but I actually thought it could possibly be the Narragansett originally because I hadn't had that one outside of the can either.
Entertaining and a fun activity. I’ve done that with bourbons. I’m going to copy y’all and do the same with beers! Cheers and greetings from Justin, TX!
It's important to remember that your grandparents would probably have only drank regional beers. Especially in the 40's and 50's since countywide distribution was a huge thing. Yuengling is still only available in I think 15 states.
Yuengling has recently made a BIG change in distribution and is now available at least as far west as Kansas. By recently I mean last week, it was big news here. It's... okay. I too am a High Life from the bottle kind of guy.
Miller high life bottles give me nostalgia, those were the best to chug in competition with your buds .. secret trick you get a flexy straw bend around the rim use like a snorkel in a weird way and u can chug the whole thing 3 seconds flat as an amateur drinker 2 seconds with practice
Yuengling is currently negotiating with a distributor in Wisconsin. Usually have a few when I'm in Alabama, Georgia and Texas. Although can't beat a Shiner Bock when in Texas. Usually a High Life in the bottle is my go to.
I understand that this was a taste test between the largest breweries in the United States of what I called cheap crap beer. I have been a beer connoisseur all my life and I have tried well over 200 brands of beers from around the world and I'm also a former bartender I can tell you straight out the best water makes a huge difference in the best beer and the best water on planet Earth is in Canada. If you're strictly going by large-volume breweries and not microbreweries which are clearly the best ,the best large volume brewery 12 pack hands-down is a 12-pack of Labatt's Blue from Canada and amazingly enough out here in Las Vegas a 12-pack of Labatt's is cheaper or equal in price than any of the above-mentioned beers. If you want really good beer the largest volume microbrewery is still the best in the United States and that's anything from the Sam Adams Brewery out of Boston
I agree. I find Hamm's to be very nice. Our local liqour store sells Hamm's in 30-packs. I do not know how well they sell, but I make sure to buy two a week so that they continue to stock to them. Currently I have a surplus of about 150 beers because I can not drink them as fast as I buy them. Whenever the liqour store does not have Hamm's in stock I buy Miller High Life. If for whatever reason they do not have either, or I am looking to save one dollar, I might buy Busch. Always in 30 packs to save money.
@@leviturner3265 We mostly drank Stroh's because that's what the older guys drank and they bought ours so...ok. Hamm's was another that brought back memories.
Ah! Genesee, I remember it well, 10 cent a can. The cream ale was drinkable, but junk. The beer was worse. Upstate NY it was were I started drinking, but then the whole town was drunk. Nothing else to do.
@@billh.1940 Genny Cream Ale was my staple growing up in upstate NY until I was 20. I enlisted and was later stationed in Belgium has had introduction to real beer of the region. I've never gone back!
Fun video. Thanks for posting. It's really hard to side-by-side taste test beer. Even in this video certain beers that you really liked upon first tasting, once you've had a bunch of different cheap beer on your palate you go back to it later and it doesn't taste good to you anymore. I bet you guys could do this 10 times and get 10 different winners.
You are absolutely right. The temperature and palate fatigue are big factors. It was very difficult haha. Still fun though. Thanks for watching, cheers!
Dang. Roger said he couldn't find any when he went around to a few stores in Georgia the other week. So hopefully they haven't stopped distributing here also. Thanks for watching 🍻
Schlitz was my favorite beer in the early 70s. They tried to speed up the brewing process and thus gain an economic edge over its competitors, and it backfired on them. One of the great all time blunders in the beer industry.
Good, Fun review. Wish I could get Schlitz in Seattle, WA. 1 of best take-aways is that they are all pretty similar. I tried Schlitz once here (12 pack) and I liked it. It was my father's favorite in the 50's to early '70's. He was from Wisconsin, too. I also enjoy Coors and Miller.
That is certainly a big takeaway. You get a lot more separation as far as good and bad once you get into light beers which we also did a blind tasting video of recently, but in this category it's kind of hard to go wrong if you are in the mood for that type of beer. Thanks for watching! Cheers
What a superb review, Gents! As a Canadian, I can only get high life at the local beer store. Interesting that Roger noted a difference between the bottle and can versions. In fact, up in Canada, the bottles are imported from Milwaukee and the canned versions are brewed locally by Molson. Both are tasty, but I prefer the bottles. (Plus, the bottles are cheaper). Lastly, On business trips through Michigan , I always grab some Hamms', Strohs', Schlitz or Old Style. Just love these American Macros!!
I work at a liquor store in Wisconsin we sell a 4 pack of Hamm's Tall Boys for $2:50. So 2 4 packs equals about 11 12 OZ beers for $5. We also sell 30 packs of Hamm's 12 OZ for $13. But our best selling beer is 30 packs of 12 OZ Busch lite for $22. I'm a die hard Hamm's guy myself.
That’s nuts you guys can get Hamm’s that cheap up north. I hardly see it around down here in Texas, and the cheapest 30 pack I can get is High Life for $20. I miss Hamm’s, I drank a lot of it in college. Used to get 30 packs for $15 when I went to college up in Kansas.
Hahaha, this should be golden... like the high life! Plus don’t forget this buds for you and the mountains are blue! My favorite will be always the original American blue ribbon award winning Americas world’s fair! Still my favorite, red white and blue... with a ribbon on top! 🍻
The original Michelob was my beer of choice since high school (I graduated in '83) till it was discontinued. Yuengling has been my go-to since. In fact, I'm enjoying one now. Don't recall ever having a Schlitz but remember my dad and his friends having it around back in the '70's. Think I'll look around for it and pick up a 6-pack for my own taste test.
Just an interesting side note, Coors makes its big money with high-end ceramics for electronics, mostly as a defense contractor. The beer side of things acts mostly as a PR wing, though it's definitely a strong concern in its own right. In the early '90's I worked for a laser scribing firm, and a single Coors ceramic plate, about 4"x4", was about $100, and once it was scribed, punched, and snapped, was worth as much as $50K. Coors had the market cornered, and was the only manufacturer of the specific type of required, military-grade porcelain for certain defense contract circuit boards. The little firm I worked for (seven people) probably went through 200-300 plates per day, five days per week. (It took a lot of time to build up the power in the capacitor banks, and the system could only cut a half dozen or so pieces per cycle.) That's over $100,000/week that Coors got from us alone. (And we made about the same, I believe, after energy, equipment, payroll, and basic overhead. The two owners were raking it in.) (The most fun was the excimer laser, which could punch through a half inch of plate steel in under half a second. You'd do a x-ray resistant ceramic stencil first, and put that in the way of the excimer aperture and -- Flash! -- an 8"x8" area of steel plate would be cut into whatever shapes, to tolerances that could only be checked by electron microscope.)
Miller high life, unless I can get Miller Genuine Draft. Now that is a dad's beverage. Enough to take off the edge from a long day, but not commit domestic violence.
Miller high Life in the bottle is always my go-to, the original Schlitz recipe is right up there and I'm glad they brought it back. It's just kind of hard to find where I live. Great show! This was a lot of fun. Thanks!
Yeah there are several beloved regionalized beers that just don't seem to make their way down to our market in Georgia so we couldn't get them for this tasting. We will look for some when we travel though. I'd like to try them.
Narragansett was a very popular beer in New England and was a major sponsor of the Boston Red Sox out of Cranston, Rhode Island. The brand went out of business but was brought back several years ago with great success. Cans of Narragansett featured in the film Jaws. “Hi, neighbor, have a ‘Gansett!”
I grew up up in a Budweiser house when I was a kid. Next door neighbor drove a short order truck for Budweiser that wasn't locked up at night until some teenagers got in there and had a party! He knew right away something was wrong when he smelled the residue of cigs and weed in his truck. He locked it up after that!
@@MichaelWilson-sn1yo Kool, Mike. Now THAT'S how u get FREE BEER!!!!! RAID THE BEER TRUCK!!!!! 2 which I say "WINNER, WINNER!!!!!! LIQUID FUCKIN' DINNER!!!!!"
I'm a coors banquet man You cannot beat a cold Yellow Jacket on a hot summer day And my dad was a Budweiser Drinker I believe he got introduced to it while he was in Vietnam
The sheer stress I feel watching videos on any macro beer review is I can actually sense them getting warm as discussion happens and I start wrinkling my nose and then I realize I am on a mote of dust around an obscure star and nothing matters and we are all just cosmic dust in the wind and then I sigh and then I want a beer.
Yuengling only began brewing their flagship Lager in the 1980s. Their original beer is their Lord Chesterfield Ale, followed by their premium (pilsner) and porter varieties.
Miller and Coors (since it went nationwide) tastes like soap to me. College it was Buckhorn, Old Milwaukee, or anything else that was less than $5 a case. Old Style if we were splurging or buying "kegs". I actually like what people call "skunky" beer. Almost all are in green bottles. Heineken, Moosehead, Grolsch, etc. FWIW, I worked at Christian Schmidt Brewing Company for a few years until they closed in 1986. We had 100 labels. We also made Rolling Rock when they were om strike. Rolling Rock's recipe made little CO2 and we had to carbonate the heck out of it. Schmidt's beer actually made excess CO2 that we compressed, liquified, and sold or used for other brews. Schmidt's Classic was my favorite.
I liked Genny Cream Ale in the returnable bottles, it had taste all its own. The older the bottles, the better the taste. When they discontinued the returnable bottles, it lost that taste. Can't drink it from cans.
I live in Chicago. I get Genny in 12packs for about $8. Would love to try bottles. I switch between High Life and PBR for everyday beer. The Genny is a smooth alternative.
Years ago, my father-in-law had a taste test between very popular and expensive beers and also threw in Old Milwaukee. Turns out, Old Milwaukee was the most picked as the best in the test.
I refer to these as bowling beers and honestly I hardly ever drink light American lagers. However have done a blind taste of them and miller was my top with colors as my second. The thing about coors is it gets skunky quite easily and my guess is the sample that was used here was skunked for those that don’t know what that is when a beer goes through a few temperature changes warm, cold, warm very cold and then served as it warms up again it gets really weird off flavor. Coors is notorious for getting skunky. Bud was my least favorite filled by pbr and Michelob was my third. I do like Narragansett and live in an area it’s distributed in but it was not part of my blind test.
I haven't had beer in years but I might try and pick up some Schlitz. I'm a history buff so I think it's neat that Papst brought back the original recipe.
I generally prefer a rich malt taste without too much hops bitterness. I really like Newcastle Brown Ale the best of the commercially available beers. I also liked A-B's Red Wolf, which is no longer made, and Killian's Red. Of the typical American light lagers I like Narragansett the best. Have drunk many gallons of it in my life since, for more than half a century, I lived in RI. When I was a kid my parents favorite beer was Schlitz, although later on they developed a preference for 'Gansett.
Newcastle used to be my favorite beer. Now it's been bought by Heineken and in the USA the formula is changed and is brewed by Lienenkugel in California and I don't like it anymore. On a cruise this past summer they had Newcastle on the ship and on the bottle it said it was brewed in Tadcaster, North Yorkshire, England. It tasted great, just like I remembered!
I love how all our memories are of dad or grandpa drinking his favorite brews back in the day....by the way my grandpa drank Old Milwaukee....I always got a sip and the golden retriever got a full one in his dog dish.
When I want to take a break from craft beers, or when only macro american lager types are available, I go for Yuengling. They make a porter that isn't bad as well.
Most everybody drank Yuengling in Pennsylvania, at least when they went out to the local watering hole. It's quite good, but maybe more of a local pride thing. Funny how some of the regional beers had such a following in other places. Look at Coors and Shiner before they became available nationally.
Cheaper ingredients. In the 70s I talked to a master brewer and he said that Miller chose only the top quality ingredients. When the started genuine draft they actually started using hops flavoring instead of hops.
When in the Marine Corps, we declared Pabst Blue Ribbon, "America's beer." 34 years later, PBR is still my go to beer
All day
The best beer I ever had was an icy cold PBR after moving a friend into an upstairs apartment on a 100+ degree day.
Haha yes! That’s their ideal time and place for sure 🍻
Pretty much grew up on pbr. There price has gone way up.
Did it make you a little emotional? Cuz it made me emotional😂
Sorry it’s coors
Dude, ANY beer under those circumstances would be good!!!!
After a long hot day at the mill a coors banquet hits just right for me.
I could identify the Yuengling just from the color alone
Yeah, it had been quite a while since either of us had a Yuengling and usually straight out of the bottle so we weren't clued in to the color yet. It's definitely different from the rest in color and flavor profile. Thanks for watching! Cheers🍻
You ate right. Some local microbrews are red, but not the major labels.
Absolutely. Yuengling is definitely the standout here. Easy to pick out in this group
1st American MICRO Brew LOL
Black & Tan is my favorite
I look at beer the same way my favorite great uncle who was a WW2 vet looked at beer. Whatever is cold and whatever someone else is buying is fine with me.
Cheers to that 🍻
Absolutely!
I’m sorry but you’d drink free piss? Is that what you’re saying??
Sorry I was at a ball game and my tickets included beer. It was coors light.
I walked around the corner and paid good money for real beer.
Schlitz going back to their original recipe was one of the most exciting things to happen to macros in the last 20 years. In the sixties and early seventies, it was the most popular beer in the United States, leaving Bud at number two.
Apparently they had to recreate it since the original recipe was lost. They interviewed old brewmasters.
We didn't even call it Schlitz. We used to call it beer and it was understood that beer meant Schlitz.
I'm glad to see the once mighty Schlitz beer is still going with their original recipe. With Budweiser's recent woes perhaps there's an opening for new Schlitz drinkers to give the brand a boost.
Schlitz wins just because it is the most fun to say, especially after 8 of them.
@@joebauers3746 Yes, once you were full of Schlitz
I couldn't agree more on Miller high Life being a different beer from bottle to can. I too land in the bottle camp
You are correct.
Absolutely
I am Bottle though a tall 16 oz can is almost a bottle. Of Cheap beers it is my second choice over Coors and third is Rolling Rock.
Agree. @@caseysmith544
It ended up being his least favorite 😂
Genesee (Rochester NY) would be a good candidate for this test. Brewery has been around since 1878!
Yuengling is by far the best. You can drink it all night long and not get tired of the taste. It also has the best color out of all of the other beers and stands out beautifully.
Agree so sad it’s not available everywhere
No yeungling in my state sadly
They caught a worker pissing into the beer recently.
Where did you find that information?@@smileymalaise
Grew up on this stuff. Took a break for a decade but recently came back home to lager. 😂
You need to be able to cleanse the palette between beers. The previous beer(s) will drastically affect the flavor of subsequent beers tested.
My Dad always drank Hamms, advertised during his beloved Cubs games!
Hamms is still a good tasting brew. Like all of them chill to the max.
Can’t beat hamms from a keg.
Still in parts of the USA find Hamms.
Hamm's is the Mountain Dew of beers very sweet and very little carbonation
@@corysather6640- Hamm's kind of has a sweet, weird taste to it.
Past Blue Ribbon has been my everyday choice for decades. It is clean and fresh tasting, with no odor or aftertaste. It is the beer that I reach for to accompany every meal (except breakfast!😁)
I buy thirty (30) cans at a time at Wal-mart for less per ounce than I can buy cola!
When I want a beer that "eats like a meal," I reach for Samuel Adams. Held up to sunlight in a Pilsner glass, it shows its gorgeous rufous color. It also is clean tasting, but filled with about half a-dozen flavors, and as maker Jim Koch says, "a head so thick, you can float a bottle cap on it!"
A bottle of "Sammy" is always a treat for the senses of every beer lover!
I'm a brewer at a craft brewery in NY and pbr is my #1 macro lager as well. The price is great, it has some nice hop character, it's not flavorless.
Schlitz is really great too. U want a beer that is miles better than Sam Adams, buy Wernesgruner at Aldi's. Sam Adams is terrible to me and blows it away!
Really great video! Love the vibe of the discussion, feels relaxed yet lively.
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My buddies Dad worked at Schiltz in Milwaukee back in the day. Glad Pabst brought it back in small batches. Good stuff.
And if you drink enough of them, they all get prettier at closing time.
🎶 "The girls all get prettier at closing time, cause they all begin to look like movie stars." 🎶
But so do us fat, ugly guy's. Good time is had by all.
Ha I love that song. That was one of my ma's favorites too. When I was still in high school, she's get her boiler maker goin on on the weekends (bc we lived in a dry county at the time), and she had tapes of all the greats, and she'd play em loud while she cooked and danced and would have me drink beers and shots with her and tell me about the good old country music n stuff, SRV, and the golden oldies too, etc... That one ALWAYS got played at the house 🤙🏻
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Coors is great. Don't know what his problem is.
Fantastic! I love the history of the beers our fathers used to drink. I can still throw back some Bud and Shmidt from time to time, but I'm more of a "fancy" beer drinker now.
Thanks for sharing.
Same here. We mostly drink craft but these certainly have their time and place. Cheers and thanks for watching 🍻
Out of these I'd have to go Yuengling, but Old Style is my #1
Old Style is a great beer.
No Style!
Just stumbled onto this video and man I'm so glad I did! You guys are hilarious! My personal all time favorite of these would have to be Miller High Life but after about 5 or 6, it would be pretty hard to decipher which one is which lol.
Thanks James! Happy to hear you found us and are enjoying it. Keep your eyes peeled for a follow up video in the next week or two 😉🍻
My mom was a bartender/cocktail waitress her entire life. I grew up with so much free junk from distributors and about a million of those purple Crown Royal bags. But my prize possession was a wall-mounted Miller High Life sign that subtly lit my bedroom at night.
Pabst and Schlitz were popular even into the 1980s before massive advertising and light beers took over.
Bingo! In the 6o's Pabst and Schlitz, Falstaff, Coors, and Bud, all had the same, price points. Today you pay a premium for Coors, Bud, and Miller due to advertising costs.
I live in a college student ghetto and, judging from the empty beer cans that decorate their yards, the youth generation appears to really like Miller Lite, Coors lite, and Keystone Lite.
Those poor bastards hahahaha. I have a feeling we will do a light beer blind battle at some point.
I drank a lot of Keystone light and Keystone ice in college because a 30 pack was just under $10
Xer here. We drank those as well plus PBR and Lucky Laghard (lager) not just for the irony but they were dirt cheap, too.
I own some farmland and I clean up litter in the ditches every year and that's what I see also. I think the most exotic beer I ever found was a Corona.
@@LuckyBastardProd Can confirm. Shaeffer's too. (The punk house beer of choice!)
Meister Brau!!! That was my high school beer. I also remember my grandmother drinking Olympia beer.
Oly was great, but it had to be ice cold.
A great video and I'm glad Pabst at least placed.
When my dad was a young man drinking with friends, Pabst was his beer of choice. It was apparently the fuel for many a "colorful tales" of his youth. It holds a special place for me and it's one I always drink in his honor and memory. It is also a favorite of the "cheap beers". I would probably get Schlitz a lot as well except I have a hard time finding in my area.
I can remember my dad drinking Schlitts, then Coors and even Michelob. He finally settled on Bud, then Bud light as he got into his 50s. I’m now going to be the same age as my dad when he went to be with our Lord and every year on his birthday I stop and grab a pepperoni pizza and a Bud. Personally, I enjoy craft beer, a good Belgian ale but my favorite beer at the moment since I live in Tokyo is Coedo White and Hitachino Nest, both Japanese craft beers. Seems a long way off but I can still remember my dad cracking open a Coors on a hot day after mowing the lawn in the 70s in Southern California and sharing a drink or two with me. Thanks for the memories.
Totally agree in that we also mostly drink craft beer. Love Belgians. Glad it brought back some memories though. Thanks for watching, cheers!
Macro beer formulas have changed a lot over the years. Schlitz wrecked itself in the '70s with a formula update; the Schlitz in the test uses a 1960s recipe, so it naturally stands out. The Pabst of today is not the same as the Pabst I drank in the early '70s.
Yeah, no doubt none of them are the exact same as they started out in terms of ingredients and recipes. I wish I were able to taste how they were back in the day to compare 🍻
Pabst was mild back in 1970s -- and a HUGE brand
Where can you FIND Schlitz with the 1960 recipe?
@@bklyndg yes where do you find this beer?
Weirdly enough, the PBR in China is the original recipe on Pabst equipment. Tastes like mid 90s PBR before the Milwaukee plant closed.
That Miller High Life sign on the shelf though. I miss seeing that so much from my childhood as it was hanging in the garage. It was mesmerizing.
The champagne of bottled beers.
Horrible beer
MGD in a bottle is great
Sterling big mouths and Old Milwaukee were my go too back in the day. Enjoyed the content thanks
my grandfather's beer was olympia , wish that beer was still available and part of your list for nostalgia , great topic video guys
Yuengling in a bottle is so much better. I guess everybody's tastebuds are different. The only beer with flavor out of the beers you had there was Y.
Yuengling is best on tap.
It’s good on tap but most beer tastes better on tap.
Cans > bottles
@kentmarsh6442 never had it on tap but I do love it in the bottle.
Just got back from a week of racing/camping down here in Florida and Yuengling kept us happily hydrated! Very good stuff.
wish someone would bring back Falstaff.
I'm in my 60's and back in the day I enjoyed Schaefer Beer, unavailable in stores for quite sometime a friend of mine ordered me a case from the liquor store a few years ago and it was okay but not quite what I remembered. Came to find out it's under Pabst umbrella now. Miller High Life is my choice now for American Lager style. Moosehead, Molson Canadian, or LaBatt's Blue I enjoy too.
PBRs for me.
Can't go wrong there. Get them often myself. - Craig
My best beer? Hands down. When I was about 14 years old, some of my friends and I went up on the roof of a random 5 floor apartment building one summer night. We found a red cooler on the roof with about 6 cans of Bud, in with the coldest possible water. A few few ice cubes were still keeping them frosty. It was a warm night, we were running around the nearby town like usual. Those beers were delicious! Cracklin cold! To this day, I'm 52, those cold beers were the best! It was like the scene in the Shawshank Redemption when they got the beers after tarring the roof! Incredible! 😃🙃🤤😎🤠🤯👆 Miss those days, lol!
😂 that’s awesome. They definitely have their time and place 🍻
Take Yuengling to your families and friends out west. They can’t get it out there and LOVE it!
The Black and Tan is heaven in a glass.
I'm from PA and live in Idaho. Brother'n'law borough out four cases. Fully agree.
I live 15 miles from the Yuengling brewery and you couldn't pay me to drink that piss
Found this in PA. at race love it since then.
@@Whats-It-To-Ya And the color blue sucks. Thanks for your opinion.
Good stuff fellas! I'd love to sit down and do this with my dad or my son. Cheers
As a punk from the West Coast, PBR and Miller High life are my personal favorites and scene favorites. Cheap and good.
Yep, same here in a normal show context.
I remember that there was always a case of Schlitz in the back stairwell of my grandfather's house. He died in 1962. I don't know if it was a choice or if that was the only beer available in Sheboygan in the 1950s.
My Dad and uncles all drank Schlitz when I was growing up in the 60s and 70s , I'm sure my first sip of beer was a Schlitz .
Seems like WW2 photos of GI’s drinking beer were overwhelmingly Schlitz. Growing up in the 50’s and 60’s most of my area taverns had Schlitz or Hamms signs hanging out front.
The ‘E’ in this study, the Narragansett Lager has been a favorite of mine for years! My personal choice for cheap beer. That’s just me, I honestly like it.
It really is a nice one. I have been ordering it at concerts lately. Cheers! - Craig
They sell that as premium beer where I live
Same! I had one with dinner tonight and after work it hits the spot nice
Still love Narragansett. They make one called Fresh Catch which is delicious
Good cheap beer. Prefer it in bottles. Quint's beer of choice.
My Nana used to drink 'Gansett tallboys back in the day. I still remember them in the fridge when I was a kid...
I didn't see this in comments at least near top of them. One of the biggest differences between Schlitz and other American beers is the grain that is used. They brewed with rice because near Milwaukee there were large areas with wild rice and it was cheap and easy to get. They meant to change back to the usuals but people liked it so much they kept it. Just one fun side note the beer factory that Lavern and Shirly worked at was called Shots Beer which was an homage to Schlitz.
Ha! Very interesting. I know rice is very commonly used today but must have been an interesting change back in the day. Thanks for highlighting that!
I'm a Pabst man, however, I truly miss the Coors Extra Gold. Shame they discontinued it.
PBR and Old Style in bottles are both great to me...
In the dead heat of summer I like the "miller killers" the 7 oz bottles, 3 chugs and gone - they never get cold lol..
@@Mike-jv4rz It was a lot of fun trying to open those pull-tabs in the Winter as teenagers. "Hey, Shake get us a screwdriver". I remember it very well. Half the time, before Shake returned with the screwdriver, our cans of Schlitz, or Pabst were pretty much frozen. Brings back great memories.
@@marcstevens8576 Pull tabs- lol
Now that's a blast from the past 👍
Drank a bunch and forgot about the Extra Gold. From the wayback files.
I love how the Yuengling stands out so obviously.
..and yet they acted like they had NO idea what beee it was!🙄🙄🙄
**beer
Haha, yeah honest ignorance I'm afraid. I don't think either of us had seen a Yuengling outside of the bottle or can, or at least not in a long time. Believe it or not, it got edited out when trimming down the time but I actually thought it could possibly be the Narragansett originally because I hadn't had that one outside of the can either.
@@drinkingwithcraigandroger4539 Thanks for the reply, fellas. Enjoy the videos. This one was quite fun.
Entertaining and a fun activity. I’ve done that with bourbons. I’m going to copy y’all and do the same with beers! Cheers and greetings from Justin, TX!
It's important to remember that your grandparents would probably have only drank regional beers. Especially in the 40's and 50's since countywide distribution was a huge thing. Yuengling is still only available in I think 15 states.
Yuengling has recently made a BIG change in distribution and is now available at least as far west as Kansas. By recently I mean last week, it was big news here. It's... okay. I too am a High Life from the bottle kind of guy.
Great point 🍻
Miller high life bottles give me nostalgia, those were the best to chug in competition with your buds .. secret trick you get a flexy straw bend around the rim use like a snorkel in a weird way and u can chug the whole thing 3 seconds flat as an amateur drinker 2 seconds with practice
🤣 niiice party trick pro-tip there 🍻
Yuengling is currently negotiating with a distributor in Wisconsin. Usually have a few when I'm in Alabama, Georgia and Texas. Although can't beat a Shiner Bock when in Texas. Usually a High Life in the bottle is my go to.
Shiner Premium is a great lager. (And Texas is a great state!)
Wish I could get some in WA
What a great 👍 video Craig and Roger well done subscribed cheers 🍺🍺
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, cheers🍻
I understand that this was a taste test between the largest breweries in the United States of what I called cheap crap beer. I have been a beer connoisseur all my life and I have tried well over 200 brands of beers from around the world and I'm also a former bartender I can tell you straight out the best water makes a huge difference in the best beer and the best water on planet Earth is in Canada. If you're strictly going by large-volume breweries and not microbreweries which are clearly the best ,the best large volume brewery 12 pack hands-down is a 12-pack of Labatt's Blue from Canada and amazingly enough out here in Las Vegas a 12-pack of Labatt's is cheaper or equal in price than any of the above-mentioned beers. If you want really good beer the largest volume microbrewery is still the best in the United States and that's anything from the Sam Adams Brewery out of Boston
I picked Schlitz right at the start, but Hamm's should of been a part of the test, these two beers are great.
Stroh’s also. Both might be tough to find. I live in an urban area and can find Hamm’s at the mega liquor stores.
Yeah, Hamm's and Old Style seem to the be two most popular in this style that we can't get in our market here in Atlanta 🍻
I agree. I find Hamm's to be very nice. Our local liqour store sells Hamm's in 30-packs. I do not know how well they sell, but I make sure to buy two a week so that they continue to stock to them. Currently I have a surplus of about 150 beers because I can not drink them as fast as I buy them.
Whenever the liqour store does not have Hamm's in stock I buy Miller High Life. If for whatever reason they do not have either, or I am looking to save one dollar, I might buy Busch. Always in 30 packs to save money.
@@leviturner3265 We mostly drank Stroh's because that's what the older guys drank and they bought ours so...ok. Hamm's was another that brought back memories.
@@leviturner3265 You are beer stocked for the apocalypse.
The Narragansett is a contract beer as well. If you look at the can it says brewed in Rochester, NY. So basically you’re drinking a Genesee Beer.
Well the brewery may be owned by Genesee, but they're using the Narragansett recipe.
Speaking of Genessee, where do they place?
FIFCO --- Genesee has been absorbed by them.
Ah! Genesee, I remember it well, 10 cent a can. The cream ale was drinkable, but junk. The beer was worse.
Upstate NY it was were I started drinking, but then the whole town was drunk. Nothing else to do.
@@billh.1940 Genny Cream Ale was my staple growing up in upstate NY until I was 20. I enlisted and was later stationed in Belgium has had introduction to real beer of the region. I've never gone back!
Fun video. Thanks for posting. It's really hard to side-by-side taste test beer. Even in this video certain beers that you really liked upon first tasting, once you've had a bunch of different cheap beer on your palate you go back to it later and it doesn't taste good to you anymore. I bet you guys could do this 10 times and get 10 different winners.
You are absolutely right. The temperature and palate fatigue are big factors. It was very difficult haha. Still fun though. Thanks for watching, cheers!
Totally enjoyed this....good times, Schlitz rules. Too bad it's not in NC anymore...
Apparently you can't get it in Kansas any more either.
Dang. Roger said he couldn't find any when he went around to a few stores in Georgia the other week. So hopefully they haven't stopped distributing here also. Thanks for watching 🍻
Wow. Surprised. Gonna have to try Schlitz. My long time fave Yuengling. Can’t abide Bud or PBR.
Schlitz was my favorite beer in the early 70s. They tried to speed up the brewing process and thus gain an economic edge over its competitors, and it backfired on them. One of the great all time blunders in the beer industry.
Good, Fun review. Wish I could get Schlitz in Seattle, WA. 1 of best take-aways is that they are all pretty similar. I tried Schlitz once here (12 pack) and I liked it. It was my father's favorite in the 50's to early '70's. He was from Wisconsin, too. I also enjoy Coors and Miller.
That is certainly a big takeaway. You get a lot more separation as far as good and bad once you get into light beers which we also did a blind tasting video of recently, but in this category it's kind of hard to go wrong if you are in the mood for that type of beer. Thanks for watching! Cheers
What a superb review, Gents! As a Canadian, I can only get high life at the local beer store. Interesting that Roger noted a difference between the bottle and can versions. In fact, up in Canada, the bottles are imported from Milwaukee and the canned versions are brewed locally by Molson. Both are tasty, but I prefer the bottles. (Plus, the bottles are cheaper). Lastly, On business trips through Michigan , I always grab some Hamms', Strohs', Schlitz or Old Style. Just love these American Macros!!
Interesting on the cans being brewed locally. That would definitely create a noticeable difference. Thanks for watching! Cheers 🍻
I work at a liquor store in Wisconsin we sell a 4 pack of Hamm's Tall Boys for $2:50. So 2 4 packs equals about 11 12 OZ beers for $5. We also sell 30 packs of Hamm's 12 OZ for $13. But our best selling beer is 30 packs of 12 OZ Busch lite for $22. I'm a die hard Hamm's guy myself.
@@laudanum669 Just bought a 30 of Hamms in michigan @ 13.99. Solid macro imo. Would really love to try Extra Gold Lager by Coors but tough to find
That’s nuts you guys can get Hamm’s that cheap up north. I hardly see it around down here in Texas, and the cheapest 30 pack I can get is High Life for $20. I miss Hamm’s, I drank a lot of it in college. Used to get 30 packs for $15 when I went to college up in Kansas.
Schlitz is my favorite, in this lineup.
We certainly agreed!
WE drank The Bull, Schlitz malt liquor.
I like PBR and then High Life
Hahaha, this should be golden... like the high life! Plus don’t forget this buds for you and the mountains are blue!
My favorite will be always the original American blue ribbon award winning Americas world’s fair!
Still my favorite, red white and blue... with a ribbon on top!
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The original Michelob was my beer of choice since high school (I graduated in '83) till it was discontinued. Yuengling has been my go-to since. In fact, I'm enjoying one now. Don't recall ever having a Schlitz but remember my dad and his friends having it around back in the '70's. Think I'll look around for it and pick up a 6-pack for my own taste test.
Excellent idea 🍻
Just an interesting side note, Coors makes its big money with high-end ceramics for electronics, mostly as a defense contractor. The beer side of things acts mostly as a PR wing, though it's definitely a strong concern in its own right. In the early '90's I worked for a laser scribing firm, and a single Coors ceramic plate, about 4"x4", was about $100, and once it was scribed, punched, and snapped, was worth as much as $50K. Coors had the market cornered, and was the only manufacturer of the specific type of required, military-grade porcelain for certain defense contract circuit boards. The little firm I worked for (seven people) probably went through 200-300 plates per day, five days per week. (It took a lot of time to build up the power in the capacitor banks, and the system could only cut a half dozen or so pieces per cycle.) That's over $100,000/week that Coors got from us alone. (And we made about the same, I believe, after energy, equipment, payroll, and basic overhead. The two owners were raking it in.)
(The most fun was the excimer laser, which could punch through a half inch of plate steel in under half a second. You'd do a x-ray resistant ceramic stencil first, and put that in the way of the excimer aperture and -- Flash! -- an 8"x8" area of steel plate would be cut into whatever shapes, to tolerances that could only be checked by electron microscope.)
I honestly had no idea! That's super interesting man
Making a comment so I don't forget this. Never knew, very interesting.
@@gamemeister27 Agreed great info...
Yeah, CoorsTek makes some really nice precision squares and other metrology equipment too. Big $$
Miller-Coors is owned by Molson out of Canada. All they make is beer.
I’m sitting here with a glass of Hamms, laughing at these guys!
Miller high life, unless I can get Miller Genuine Draft. Now that is a dad's beverage. Enough to take off the edge from a long day, but not commit domestic violence.
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Grain Belt still going well in upper Midwest. First thing i do when I visit is buy a 12 pack in bottles. Very very good beer.
Nice video. Out of that line up I'll take the bottled High Life all day.
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Now if they can only bring Stroh's copper kettle fire brewed beer back.
and get it back in Detroit
Old style
@@csnide6702 If it's good enough for Clem Snide, it's good enough for me.
@@brent69 Heileman's Old Style was HUGE in Chicago area - for a long time !
And Alex ....
I rotate between Hamms, PBR, Highlife, Old Style and Coors. After 20 years of mostly craft brew, ive gone back to my roots.
My dad was a Schlitz drinker when I was a kid. Of the macrobrews you had here it is pretty much the only one I’d drink. I’m a craft brewing fan.
Miller high Life in the bottle is always my go-to, the original Schlitz recipe is right up there and I'm glad they brought it back. It's just kind of hard to find where I live. Great show! This was a lot of fun. Thanks!
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching. Cheers🍻
In beer taste testing, the taste gets better the more you drunk.
Out of all those bad beers, I would go PBR all day every day on a hot summer day.
PBR is a good beer and glad to see it still hanging on and doing well. I also like Hamm’s. Wish it would have been part of your test.
Yeah there are several beloved regionalized beers that just don't seem to make their way down to our market in Georgia so we couldn't get them for this tasting. We will look for some when we travel though. I'd like to try them.
I had not seen or heard of Narragansett, until this year, here in New Jersey. I recently saw Hamm's beer for the first time. 🍻
Ohhh, Hamm's ey? That's a new one on me. Sounds worth a try.
I was wondering where Hamm's was in this lineup bc I thought it was a very old brew as well.
Narragansett was a very popular beer in New England and was a major sponsor of the Boston Red Sox out of Cranston, Rhode Island. The brand went out of business but was brought back several years ago with great success. Cans of Narragansett featured in the film Jaws.
“Hi, neighbor, have a ‘Gansett!”
I’d love to see you do a battle of all of the bud beers including Michelob, Busch, Natural and see what the main differences are.
I grew up up in a Budweiser house when I was a kid. Next door neighbor drove a short order truck for Budweiser that wasn't locked up at night until some teenagers got in there and had a party! He knew right away something was wrong when he smelled the residue of cigs and weed in his truck. He locked it up after that!
You know why they use horses in their advertising, don't you???
Great idea! We will definitely keep that one in mind 🍻
@@MichaelWilson-sn1yo Kool, Mike. Now THAT'S how u get FREE BEER!!!!! RAID THE BEER TRUCK!!!!! 2 which I say "WINNER, WINNER!!!!!! LIQUID FUCKIN' DINNER!!!!!"
Michelob was a treat growing up. Can’t find it in NY anymore. Loved that beer
Hell...I didn't know they even made Schlitz any more!
Pbr brews it along with other old time locality beers. Schlitz is honestly amazing.
Of those tested, my favorites are Yuengling, Schilz, and Pabst. Do they even make Blatz anymore?
Yes they do! I am from Wisconsin and it is here
I'm a coors banquet man You cannot beat a cold Yellow Jacket on a hot summer day And my dad was a Budweiser Drinker I believe he got introduced to it while he was in Vietnam
The sheer stress I feel watching videos on any macro beer review is I can actually sense them getting warm as discussion happens and I start wrinkling my nose and then I realize I am on a mote of dust around an obscure star and nothing matters and we are all just cosmic dust in the wind and then I sigh and then I want a beer.
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Yuengling only began brewing their flagship Lager in the 1980s. Their original beer is their Lord Chesterfield Ale, followed by their premium (pilsner) and porter varieties.
Problem is all of the beers have changed formula thru the years
We the consumers allow it.
Too many idiots drinking beer for a buzz instead of getting a buzz off an enjoyable drinks.
In the old days, everything was organic, everything felt more upbeat
I advise to try yuengling black and tan, good stuff.
Looks like my beer fridge!Just need Old Style, Hamm’s, Busch, Stag, Grain Belt, Iron City, Molson Canadian, Michelob Golden Draft and Natural Ice.
Miller and Coors (since it went nationwide) tastes like soap to me. College it was Buckhorn, Old Milwaukee, or anything else that was less than $5 a case. Old Style if we were splurging or buying "kegs".
I actually like what people call "skunky" beer. Almost all are in green bottles. Heineken, Moosehead, Grolsch, etc.
FWIW, I worked at Christian Schmidt Brewing Company for a few years until they closed in 1986. We had 100 labels. We also made Rolling Rock when they were om strike. Rolling Rock's recipe made little CO2 and we had to carbonate the heck out of it. Schmidt's beer actually made excess CO2 that we compressed, liquified, and sold or used for other brews. Schmidt's Classic was my favorite.
Loved the Schmidt’s wild life cans!
Dad beer? You mean real beer.
I liked Genny Cream Ale in the returnable bottles, it had taste all its own. The older the bottles, the better the taste. When they discontinued the returnable bottles, it lost that taste. Can't drink it from cans.
I live in Chicago. I get Genny in 12packs for about $8. Would love to try bottles. I switch between High Life and PBR for everyday beer. The Genny is a smooth alternative.
My dad always had a quarter keg of Genny Cream in the Beermiester when I was a kid.
Years ago, my father-in-law had a taste test between very popular and expensive beers and also threw in Old Milwaukee. Turns out, Old Milwaukee was the most picked as the best in the test.
An underrated beer.
I refer to these as bowling beers and honestly I hardly ever drink light American lagers. However have done a blind taste of them and miller was my top with colors as my second. The thing about coors is it gets skunky quite easily and my guess is the sample that was used here was skunked for those that don’t know what that is when a beer goes through a few temperature changes warm, cold, warm very cold and then served as it warms up again it gets really weird off flavor. Coors is notorious for getting skunky. Bud was my least favorite filled by pbr and Michelob was my third. I do like Narragansett and live in an area it’s distributed in but it was not part of my blind test.
Fun fact: Narragansett is actually brewed at the Genesee brewing company in upstate New York. I recommend the Genesee cream ale!
I’ve had that cream ale before and liked it just fine but it’s been several years since I’ve seen it here in Georgia 🍻
Right now, Genny is making Winter Bock available. I haven't had it in years, but I'm sure it's not the same.
Genny Cream Ale was the college beer of choice, back in my day.
@@AppalachianTemplar Yep, 16 oz Genny pounders.
I haven't had beer in years but I might try and pick up some Schlitz. I'm a history buff so I think it's neat that Papst brought back the original recipe.
That animated Miller High Life sign is amazing.
I generally prefer a rich malt taste without too much hops bitterness. I really like Newcastle Brown Ale the best of the commercially available beers. I also liked A-B's Red Wolf, which is no longer made, and Killian's Red. Of the typical American light lagers I like Narragansett the best. Have drunk many gallons of it in my life since, for more than half a century, I lived in RI. When I was a kid my parents favorite beer was Schlitz, although later on they developed a preference for 'Gansett.
Newcastle used to be my favorite beer. Now it's been bought by Heineken and in the USA the formula is changed and is brewed by Lienenkugel in California and I don't like it anymore. On a cruise this past summer they had Newcastle on the ship and on the bottle it said it was brewed in Tadcaster, North Yorkshire, England. It tasted great, just like I remembered!
Yuengling Traditional Lager is the best of the lot.
Should have had Strohs and Old Style in there.
Being from long island my grand parents. Didn't drink any of that. It was Rheingold and gin sometimes whiskey. Upstate it turned to Genny Cream Ale.
I love how all our memories are of dad or grandpa drinking his favorite brews back in the day....by the way my grandpa drank Old Milwaukee....I always got a sip and the golden retriever got a full one in his dog dish.
Fantastic! A lot are hard to get here in England.. not a fan of corrs or bud but I loved PBR when it was here briefly 🍺
you forgot the ultimate Grandpa fixed income beer . . . Hamm's
Yuengling has always been better than the rest.
its trash
When I want to take a break from craft beers, or when only macro american lager types are available, I go for Yuengling. They make a porter that isn't bad as well.
Picked it out right away.
My friends and family out west always require me to bring a case of Yuengling on my trips.
Most everybody drank Yuengling in Pennsylvania, at least when they went out to the local watering hole. It's quite good, but maybe more of a local pride thing. Funny how some of the regional beers had such a following in other places. Look at Coors and Shiner before they became available nationally.
At the end of the day, you drank more Yuengling than the others
I met my wife 26 years ago at a bar in Muenster Texas. I had a can of open Schlitz in each hand at the time. It's magical.
Miller High Life has changed since the 70's. Seems like it has too much foaming agents that stick to the glass.
Cheaper ingredients. In the 70s I talked to a master brewer and he said that Miller chose only the top quality ingredients. When the started genuine draft they actually started using hops flavoring instead of hops.
@@greybone777 never cared for the GD for the same reason. I wish I could get Shlitz in northwest florida