Cherokee Days 2014: Cherokee Genealogy with Roy Hamilton

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  • Genealogist Roy Hamilton, citizen of the Cherokee Nation, addresses Cherokee family genealogy and the differences between being a Cherokee citizen and being Cherokee by ancestry.
    This presentation was webcast on April 4, 2014 from Rooms 4018 and 4019 at the National Museum of the American Indian in Washington, D. C.

Komentáře • 228

  • @xenathargo1227
    @xenathargo1227 Před 3 lety +14

    The day I was born in 1970 my mother couldn't put me through the cherokee tribe because my mother didn't want the government to take me away from her. Out of my years of my life I started to learn how much cherokee I really am. I'm 3/4 Cherokee native & I have lived my life & very happy with with my race. Anyone who asked I will say I'm Cherokee native American & proud of it. I would love to know more.
    Thank you , God bless you all

    • @timwarcloud
      @timwarcloud Před rokem

      Fearing child removal for being Indian in 1970? I call BS! 😅

    • @beadingbusily
      @beadingbusily Před 7 měsíci +1

      Some of our elders were tra​umatized. They coped in whatever way seemed safest. We're learning about their ❤lives. @@timwarcloud

  • @RomeshSenewiratne-Alagaratnam

    The 'blood quantum' and labels of 'quadroon' and 'octroon' came from the eugenics theories of Francis Galton in Cambridge. Galton was invited to give lectures on eugenics at Harvard University in the 1890s. Winston Churchill was the first vice-president of the Eugenics Education Society founded by Galton (who was Charles Darwin;s cousin) and Major Leonard Darwin (Charles Darwin's son). The eugenics programs were also exported to Australia where they were used for ongoing genocide of our First People.

    • @MelissaThompson432
      @MelissaThompson432 Před 4 lety +2

      The word "quadroon" has been used since the beginning of the 18th century. The concept of quantum in descendants of slaves has been a matter of interest in the US South for a very long time....

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 Před 3 lety +1

      😢😢

    • @solonfuller7478
      @solonfuller7478 Před 3 lety +3

      Your right. The nazi party was also influenced by the eugenics movement.

    • @karencoy4329
      @karencoy4329 Před rokem

      Thank you for sharing this.

  • @wabisabi2484
    @wabisabi2484 Před 4 lety +21

    Greetings Relatives and Welcome to our Family of Generations;
    If you have Native American Blood, our Ancestors claim you, as we are not only their relatives, but their precious grandchildren... and, thus, we must, in turn, claim each other.
    Our Bloodline is all about sacred connections... to all relatives, all creatures, the natural and spirit worlds, of alll creation, and, especially, Our Great Creator and Our Mother (Earth). So rise up! 💞✨

    • @buffyrobinson8075
      @buffyrobinson8075 Před 3 lety +1

      I think this CZcams video is outdated… I posted a text on it but no response. If you are active in genealogy here. Can you answer my question?

  • @pollysshore2539
    @pollysshore2539 Před 3 lety +6

    I live in Jackson County NC, which covers a swath of the Eastern Band of the Cherokee Nation. In other words my moms family has lived on the Qualla boundary for hundreds of years and we have Cherokee relatives
    I thankfully received a very good education on the Cherokee here as a small child that also swaddled, loved and protected babies while making us aware of atrocities. We received so many valuable lessons from 1980 - 89.

  • @KingTwinTv
    @KingTwinTv Před 2 lety +3

    I’m Cherokee my great grandparents from Oklahoma primary to trail of tears

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      Blackfoot, Cherokee, Arawak 🪶 Injuns are melanated 💯

  • @davidmelick6225
    @davidmelick6225 Před 5 lety +7

    Thank you for this history. Having grown up in North Georgia I am familiar with somewhat different versions of your stories. I was told, by a Cherokee leader in a small Cherokee museum near Hiawassee, GA, that Mr. Thomas, who bought the North Carolina land for the Cherokee, was an orphan who had been adopted by Cherokee family living near Hiawassee. When the U.S. government drove the Indians out of the area they paid them about $0.02 an acre (very low price even back then) They pooled their money and Mr. Thomas, being white, was able to buy land so he bought the North Carolina property and the Cherokee of north Georgia moved to that land. Later they applied and were granted reservation status. The only reservation in the U.S. which was actually purchased by the Indian tribe who live on it. I don't know which story is true but I like this version and Cherokee people of this area all know this story.

    • @matubbee
      @matubbee Před 5 lety +1

      funny they were able to buy the Chickasaw and Choctaw land for $1.25 a quarter acre poor peasants coming in to settle destroyed families all for their selfish gain

  • @timoteoluna3789
    @timoteoluna3789 Před 3 lety +4

    Great presentation!🕺💃👯🤸
    Very informative
    Thank you so much 😁

  • @christinereineke4409
    @christinereineke4409 Před 6 lety +9

    I like to say, "family tree?" we got a family rainforest

  • @MegaAli213
    @MegaAli213 Před 5 lety +20

    Great video, my ancestors were of the band that stayed in Wake County North Carolina and we're labeled "Person's of Color"

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 Před 3 lety +2

      ❤️

    • @prutissbartlow8835
      @prutissbartlow8835 Před 3 lety +2

      That's what they call black people..🤔

    • @lindamaemullins5151
      @lindamaemullins5151 Před 3 lety +3

      @@prutissbartlow8835 or American Indians back in the day-check out muelungions why don’t ya?

    • @emilywolfenbarger410
      @emilywolfenbarger410 Před 3 lety +2

      @@prutissbartlow8835 Its not limited to Black, it includes every shade of color--even Asian.

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 Před 3 lety +3

      The census taker identified people by their skin color not their race.

  • @elli003
    @elli003 Před 4 lety +3

    Answered all of my questions. Very informative.

  • @emitabaulenu
    @emitabaulenu Před 2 lety +2

    Rest in peace, dear friend. Can't believe you are gone.

  • @normanhale8625
    @normanhale8625 Před 2 lety +3

    just found you today my great grandfathers were said to be full cherokee both from salyersville ky area on moms side "trib lovely" trib was married to becky lovely who was said to be 1/2 apache indian and dads side was sam hale both was said to be full cherokee

  • @ericasiskthomason878
    @ericasiskthomason878 Před 2 lety +4

    It's like the U.S. had erased our heritage and I think that's unfair because one they didn't keep proper censuses and at times were tricked by these deals. I would love just to visit one day and just see the lifestyle and hear the stories and things

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      You not Injun nobody erased ya heritage 😂real Indians walk around thinking they are black because our oppressors (the government) reclassified our identity on paper more than 10 times in the last 220 years

  • @cherokeegypsy2617
    @cherokeegypsy2617 Před 2 lety +3

    So proud of my mother’s strong Methodist Cherokee Christian community of the Appalachian Mountains. Their deep Faith in Christ kept them surviving.

    • @lovemyalaskaful
      @lovemyalaskaful Před 2 lety +2

      If u only knew the depth of pain caused by the Christians upon the Cherokee.

    • @lindastorm7264
      @lindastorm7264 Před 2 lety

      @@lovemyalaskaful You can no more make a general statement like that anymore than saying look what pain the Japanese did in the 1940's. A true Christian would not cause that kind of pain...and no group of people needs to be painted with the same brush. There were true Christians who suffered WITH the Cherokee and took up their cause.

  • @mzdankmuzik
    @mzdankmuzik Před 2 lety +5

    You can make all the laws and Constitution you want but that does not change the blood. We are Cherokee.... displaced by the lack of knowledge.

  • @MymilanitalyBlogspot
    @MymilanitalyBlogspot Před 3 lety +2

    Very clear and very interesting, thank you.

  • @lindastorm7264
    @lindastorm7264 Před 2 lety +3

    I have a friend in Myanmar (aka Burma) whose family and friends (his tribe) look identical to the aboriginal Cherokees of this continent. He knew some ancient history of those who migrated to the east to a far away land. People have been migrating and populating the earth since the very beginning. There is only ONE race...the human race. We are family...let's treat each other that way. Peace to that Tribe.

    • @jedheart8059
      @jedheart8059 Před rokem

      My father, deceased, was half Ilocano (a tribe of the Philippines) and Scots Irish Trail of Tears Cherokee. My grandparents brought me to the Philippines when I was 13 in 1980. There, I am 100 percent Ilocano. There are no half breeds. Over twenty years later, mid 90s, I traveled to the jungle in Guatemala where I stayed with Mayans. While there on a non-profit project, a Guatamalan government inspector came to check out the project. She told me I looked mixed Guatamalan. I had noticed the Indigenous Mayans who did not speak English at all, looked like cousins in the Philippines. I really felt like I was with my Ilocano family there. I took a bus to travel between villages. I did not have food with me. Even though I did not speak the language, I was offered food by the Mayans. They had food they grew and chickens on the bus. I do my DNA, had it tested at many companies. My nephew had his done at 23andme only. His y-DNA turned out to be from Southern Asia. I began researching that. It's known that there was migration from Taiwan to the Philippines. I knew that for decades. But I began to learn that there was migration from Southern Asia to the Philippines too. My own father looked like a full blooded Cherokee. His facial features look Native American. People would always ask me if I am Cherokee all through my young life. As a Veteran, I was traveling with some other Veterans through Native American lands. We stopped to get breakfast during our trip to a Veterans conference. Several local Native American men can in to the restaurant. As they passed by our table, they all nodded to me. They all recognized I look Native American. Now I have white hair. My skin is medium dark, a finally red toned. So, my ethnicity is not discernable much. I have Green eyes so now people see that and know I am not non-European descent. They say green eyes are rare. Not true in my family. My mom, all my brothers, and aunt, we all have green eyes. But that giveaway makes it clear that I am at least part European descent. Where's my father looked full blooded Cherokee because of his mix. And, he does have a cousin in Hawaii who is Irish, Hawaiian, Ilocano who looks likey dad too. So, I think you nailed it. I think there is a gene flow between South Asia and Native Americans, done of the flow. My research points to different waves of DNA coming through different periods of time. Like my mother's Viking ancestors, my father's Pacific Island ancestors were sea faring people. Ilocano traded ancient pottery with India and China. Vikings made it to both east and west coast of Northern America. Why not the South Asians? And, why would South Asians need to more than a thousand more less years ago? If people were living in Alaska area, they could travel back and forth too. The gene flow could been going both directs, back and forth. If you have Arctic hunting clans crossing waterways, why not camp out and share in social exchange? Hunter and gatherer society was mobile. They wouldn't think like us, being bound inside a homebound area. I think you have a good observation.

    • @M.Campbell-Sherwood
      @M.Campbell-Sherwood Před 11 měsíci

      Cherokee aren’t Aboriginal/Aborigines… We’re Native American.

    • @M.Campbell-Sherwood
      @M.Campbell-Sherwood Před 11 měsíci

      @@jedheart8059My mom’s DNA came out very Asian as well. She had Native American Markers too, but there were more Asian markers than I expected. I knew there would be western Asian because of her maternal Jewish Heritage, but what surprised me was the the most was the amount of Northeastern, Eastern and South Eastern that popped up. I mean I always knew Native Americans came from the Asian Countries (and watching Korean tv REALLY puts it into perspective; being able to place different Tribe features and sometimes Peruvian or other South/Central American peoples, it really makes me wonder when they all migrated), but really seeing it was wild as h3II.

  • @AncientOne222
    @AncientOne222 Před 6 lety +9

    This is a great video showing Political Tribes versus an Organic Nation that focuses on BLOOD this video is solely focused on a Political tribe and proving your link to a political formation via colonized documents as stated in the video Cherokee people DID NOT keep records until 1880...

  • @tessjones5987
    @tessjones5987 Před 3 lety +4

    Thank you so much. I heard that the Iroquois and the Mohekan were also same bloodlines with the
    Cherokee.

  • @vanessagolston3957
    @vanessagolston3957 Před 2 lety +2

    I am part Eastern Cherokee and my GRANDMOTHER'S; MY MOTHER'S MOTHER Surname is HAMILTON MY MOTHER WAS A MEDICINE WOMAN and she and MY FATHER were always picking strange plants and roots for washing and boiling in large pots and eating these plants and drinking the purified water from the ASAFOETIDA ROOT. MY FAMILY ROOSTS COME FROM EASTERN TENNESSEE AND EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA. I AM FROM OHIO.

  • @terribedford7729
    @terribedford7729 Před 3 lety +4

    My 5 × great grandmother (Keshea?) belong to the Dear clan she was born in Alabama. My 4× great grandfather was chief James Johnson also known as Skillet Head in Tennessee.

  • @kevinrees5855
    @kevinrees5855 Před 5 lety +5

    Missouri was not French territory in 1794 - it was Spanish at that time. The population of the Spanish Colony was mostly French.

    • @HK-dq1eg
      @HK-dq1eg Před 4 lety +2

      👍thank you for that!

  • @kimmishennett3537
    @kimmishennett3537 Před 2 lety +3

    How can I check to see if I’m Cherokee Indian because I would love to know. My parent always said I was Cherokee Indian. I so love all the Indian nationalities. They all mean a lot to me so much

  • @johnathanandrus6586
    @johnathanandrus6586 Před rokem +1

    My father's side was scotsirishxCherokeexGermanxChoctaw from the Western edge of Virginia, Tennessee and northern Alabama that migrated to Fort Jessup or Natchitoches and Sabine, Louisiana and moved to Madison county along the Trinity river in Texas. Then my Grandparents moved to Bryan, Texas in Brazos valley and met the family that would be my mother's side of GermanxAustrianxCzechxBohemian descent in Burleson county.
    Pretty interesting following my father's side and how they were trying to escape or avoid the U.S. expansion and civil war. We consider ourselves Texans 1st now. I wouldn't necessarily consider myself Cherokee and/or Choctaw since my father was only 1/4 and my mom is German/Czech and I have a much closer relationship to that side, though i truly respect what these ancestors dealt with and went through, you've gotta be a strong people to make it through.
    I'd be 1/16th from Cherokee and 1/16 Choctaw, 1/2 German/Austrian, 3/16 scots-irish, and 3/16 Czech/Bohemian but that's just breaking down from family tree as genes don't always pass down equally. My mom's mom's side is straight from Czechia & Bohemia to Texas in 1850s, my mom's father's side came straight to Texas from Germany/Prussia/Austria in the late 1880s. These family trees get so big after a few generations. I thinks it's cool that we still have a closer relationship with our mom's side than with my Father's side, guess that matrilineal genetic memory and tradition is still there. I can trace the scots-irish side to England to the 1st duke of Exeter in England Northumberland, and the Molyneauxs from France, though that is way back and overwhelmed by the more recent genes. Most branches of my tree are near impossible to get back that far, but the ones you can always keep tracing are the ones from Royalty/high families.

  • @AngieCosco
    @AngieCosco Před 9 lety +12

    What do you think? I think if it's in the blood you have every right to be proud and you have every right to be who you are with or without the ''New way'' of being Cherokee. I mean what you have is who you are. It was always that way and should stay that way. I do not want to be mean, I have a story to tell. I want to be heard.

    • @rhondaspikes3712
      @rhondaspikes3712 Před 2 lety +1

      Rh negative bloodline here sos missing family children from sos by bloodline help Rhonda spikes derrider Louisiana rh negative bloodline here sos missing family sos

  • @aminakishk6571
    @aminakishk6571 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you , my father is William Fred WIllis had parents from Oklahoma…..he was with blue eyes…..my mother’s family was English… but I know I have Cherokee in me…..

  • @deasmith99
    @deasmith99 Před 3 lety +2

    This is very informative and yet very upsetting for me personally, my father has Cherokee ancestry however according to this, it goes by your mothers ancestry, plus the fact that if you leave the lands more than 6 months, you give up your citizenship as a Cherokee. Although I am not truly Cherokee, I will always have a great respect, admiration and great pride to be connected to, even in a small way, to such a great culture.

  • @MegaTroyhamilton
    @MegaTroyhamilton Před 5 lety +2

    Shame he's passed away. I just found out this morning. RIP sir

    • @margarettewest254
      @margarettewest254 Před 3 lety

      I am a Hamilton...my maiden name..I have some genealogy information back to 1740.

  • @martinsmithson
    @martinsmithson Před rokem +1

    Our hearts have to make a change

  • @patriciademekpe404
    @patriciademekpe404 Před 5 lety +3

    I'm of the Bird Clan from Willstown, Alabama. That's according to my grandmother born in 1910.

    • @MelissaThompson432
      @MelissaThompson432 Před 4 lety +1

      My ancestor was born in North Carolina, but lived in the Coldwater camp in Lauderdale, AL.

  • @davidj.lebaron709
    @davidj.lebaron709 Před rokem +1

    Very Interesting! Thank very much! My GGGrandmother: Sarah Riddle Pyle, married a Mormon back in the 1830s. She is buried in Utah. So, if the Trail Of Tears was not sufficient, she with the Mormons' Exodus, from Nauvoo IL, to Utah, where she is interred...beside her husband, Jehu Cox.

  • @ericasiskthomason878
    @ericasiskthomason878 Před 2 lety +1

    I am Cherokee descent from my mother's side but I would have no idea what clan but my mother's father's mother(my great grandmother) was 75% and that's all I know

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      Then why are you pale with no distinctive features ?

  • @ngjellico9469
    @ngjellico9469 Před 9 lety +4

    So how do you gain citizenship today

  • @whiteowl8703
    @whiteowl8703 Před 2 lety +2

    How is it that since my birth in 1962 the American population has only doubled when at same time the Cherokee Nation population grew by 1500%. America grew 100% more humans in 59 years doubling the population. During same time 15,000 or less grew to 235,000 which is a 1500% increase. Do they have a rabbit 🐰 clan🤔
    Oh and why is no other Tribe able to proliferate there population in same manner ?? They only produce at same rate as rest of America. Simply amazing. 🤯

  • @whiteowl8703
    @whiteowl8703 Před 2 lety +1

    When Tahlequah was founded in 1839 or so and the “Old Settlers” joined them coming up from Arkansas the total population at that time was around 7500. And yet when the Dawes Rolls were created they also had around 7500 or even a bit more and oh ya. That one got cancelled and a new Dawes Roll was created and that one they use today which had about 3500 names listed. Can you please answer this ??

  • @ShannonStamper-dx9eq
    @ShannonStamper-dx9eq Před rokem

    There is power in this for me

  • @christineplaton3048
    @christineplaton3048 Před 11 měsíci

    We are Cherokee descendants. My great great grandmother was born in Georgia. She was married twice. Her name was Harriet Baker...then Williams. Her grandson my grandfather had an Indian tatoo. His identity papers in 1920 said he was a negro. His grandparents on his grandfathers side were free ex slaves on the first census after slavery ended. I hope to find someone to help find the descendants of the children of Harriet that are unknown at this time. When he applied for Social Security my grandfathers application came from Cherokee NCarolina although he lived in New York at the time. I believe he travelled south to apply as well as to introduce my Irish grandmother to his people. When I found three missing branches of my tree they all knew we Cherokee descendants.

  • @shannonstamper1581
    @shannonstamper1581 Před rokem +1

    Love my Cherokee blood

  • @carrigirodat9612
    @carrigirodat9612 Před 4 lety +2

    I have some very interesting history regarding this information. I have been told that my Great Great Grandmother was a Cherokee Indian, and believe my Great Great Grandfather was a Scots/Irish. However, the other piece of information is that the moved in the Oklahoma Land Rush. I have some names and dates in my Great Grandfathers Family Bible

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 Před 3 lety +2

      There were other Native tribes in Oklahoma too.

  • @christineplaton3048
    @christineplaton3048 Před 11 měsíci

    From my grandfather my DNA is 1/4 Africana with all tribes listed. But as I read the Cherokee DNA does not show sometimes. So blood quantum wise I can prove I am truly my grandfathers descendent. His mother is believed the daughter of a Cherokee ...now he LOOKED Cherokee. And I too look like some Cherokee and have deep set eyes etc . The features continue in some of my children and grandchildren. The 'look... 'Its amazing to me...and one of my cousins as well as one of my daughters has what I can describe as the larger Native American skeletal structure. I hope to in any way possible find our connections to the Cherokee Nation.

  • @chrisjohnson261
    @chrisjohnson261 Před 2 lety +1

    It's crazy that the WS is actually at the head of all of this. Funny how they love to tell you the history but won't tell you who the people actually are today. Thankfully we finally started opening the books..

  • @netsurfers9357
    @netsurfers9357 Před 3 lety +1

    My Great Grandmother was Daisy Belle Dishman, who claimed to be Eastern Band Cherokee.

  • @buffyrobinson8075
    @buffyrobinson8075 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi, I was wondering if there is an easier way to find out about our Cherokee heritage? Only The Indians inherited mineral rights in Oklahoma. One of my Grandma’s parents was full blood Cherokee and my Grandma inherited the mineral rights from them. My Dad who was 1/4 Cherokee inherited these mineral rights from her. And my brothers and sisters inherited them from him. If I follow this linage through inheritance, I can track my Cherokee heritage. My unckle Raymond Robinson got his Cherokee nation card ( card carrying Indian). But I have two children who both mine and their Dads. Definitely full blood brothers. Their Dad has zero Indian. I should be if tested 1/8. Were as both my children should be 1/16. But one came back zero. Is there something about the tests that would cause this? I don’t understand it. He is my child. And his full blood brother came back correct….?

  • @karencoy4329
    @karencoy4329 Před rokem +3

    According to blood quantum many enrolled wouldn't have 1/16th of Cherokee blood. It's ridiculous that any tribe would use blood quantum today. So, those that weren't removed and were classified as "People Of Color" are now classified as "African American", bc that classification continued to change over the years and many are still on our traditional Ancestral land. This is also the case with every other Eastern Woodland Indian tribe. This is how most of our land and Ancestral rights were stolen.

  • @kimberlyhull2140
    @kimberlyhull2140 Před 3 měsíci

    We do at EBCI you have to be a certain degree of blood or you can’t enroll

  • @gwagon4188
    @gwagon4188 Před 3 lety +3

    My grandmother's grandmother was Cherokee. Is there DNA testing that shows this? When were birth certificates started?
    RIP

    • @lovemyalaskaful
      @lovemyalaskaful Před 2 lety

      Look at the official Cherokee rolls like Dawes, Baker.

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      @@lovemyalaskafulanybody on the Dawes roll is not real Cherokee they were whites and Asians paying 5 dollars to change their ethnicity the real melanated Injuns were being killed for saying they were Indian 🫤

  • @shannonstamper1581
    @shannonstamper1581 Před rokem

    I've been trying to research my lineage Roy and have found a grandmother on the dows rolls on my father's side but my mother is Sioux and I'm having difficulty tracing her family I need help Roy

  • @sandramartin5155
    @sandramartin5155 Před rokem

    What is the difference between clan and tribe

  • @nefersphere1168
    @nefersphere1168 Před 7 lety +16

    I think by saying a person is not Cherokee by blood is tryna debunk ppl of darker skin from claiming our Cherokee heritage. I am just saying if you gon keep it 99.9 tell the whole truth and not just your aspect. Thank you.

  • @boerasta1786
    @boerasta1786 Před 4 lety

    Bring it out

  • @butterflySmiles2
    @butterflySmiles2 Před 6 lety +2

    Looking back at the genealogy, why they were renters,.

  • @jerispottedelk4498
    @jerispottedelk4498 Před 8 lety +1

    my paternal grand parents are full blood tuscarora...my maternal grandmother is cherokee and her husband was swedish...How would i search my mother's lineage?

    • @cherylwallacewayaunega
      @cherylwallacewayaunega Před 8 lety

      Cherokee follow the maternal lineage, so you would use your maternal grandmothers family.

  • @sasha52301
    @sasha52301 Před 7 lety +7

    Wow I thought that the blood mattered, however I understand that I'm not accepted by the Cherokee Indians Nation. I'm not sure about the Coctaw Indian Nation.
    Now I understand the disrespect I felt when I reached out to someone of the Cherokee tribe.
    I believed that we need each other so that we could help increase each other. Now i found out that my family relinquished their rights. My great grandfather and great grandmother were Cherokee on my fathers side and my great grandfather was Choctaw on my mother side. I did the research and it is regostered in the Native American Museum in New York,

    • @Melungeonpeople
      @Melungeonpeople Před 5 lety +6

      Why does the Cherokee Nation interpret not moving to the west as "giving up rights"? My Cherokee family sees it as resisting removal from ancestral lands. My entire family speaks Cherokee and we are as white as you. So many untold stories or black, white and other mixed American Indians. Will we ever have our voices heard!?

    • @sharonallen6921
      @sharonallen6921 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Melungeonpeople It was the US government that put restrictions on who is Cherokee or not. A treaty in 1828 stated that any Cherokee Nation citizen that lived off Cherokee land for more than 6 months was no longer considered a Cherokee Nation citizens but instead a US citizen. When the Trail of Tears took place and many were forced to walk to Oklahoma the government then claimed all of the citizens who stayed back east were no longer Cherokee Nation citizens because they didn't live in Oklahoma. Same thing with blood requirements. Old Cherokee Nation (before US government involvement) said if you were descended from Cherokee Nation parent or adopted, knew the language, upheld traditions and ways of the Cherokee Nation then you were Cherokee. The government is the one that put qualifications on the people by saying "degree" of N. A.. I wonder when the N. A. tribes will stop looking to Washington, DC to decide for them what they are or what their value is. And the infighting is ridiculous. Who the "better" is ... those who stayed back east or those who walked the Trail of Tears?! Crazy argument, in my opinion. The old Cherokee Nation said you are either a Cherokee or you are not. They didn't go by degree of blood. What 1/4th of your body is Cherokee while the other 3/4th is not? My family sees staying east the same as your family, Loki - resisting removal from ancestral lands. Leaving or not was a personal decision and often decided by being captured by US soldiers but only the US government got to decide who could lay claim to being Cherokee. Yet, today we have people arguing over the issue as though the US government is God and their interpretation is all that matters. In my opinion, we will never stand completely upright until we stop looking to Washington, DC to tell us who we are AND that goes for N. A.'s or any other group of people. I can never be documented Cherokee because over the last 150 + years I can not document that every generation from the Dawes Roll was female and once a son becomes your ancestor you lose citizenship, also my family has not lived on a reservation continuously since the 1940's. People, wake up! The enemy is not east band vs west band or full blood vs degree of blood. We are allowing our separation because US government education has taught us to and what was once not accepted by our people is now used as fact and truth. Just like anything else .... lies told over and over and not challenged end up accepted as truth as time goes by.

    • @netsurfers9357
      @netsurfers9357 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Melungeonpeople My Great Grandmother wore Cherokee clothing and lived in Kentucky/Tennessee (Daisy Belle Dishman "Du Chemin") and claimed to be Cherokee Indian.

    • @margarettewest254
      @margarettewest254 Před 3 lety +1

      @@sharonallen6921 I am Cherokee and know this from stories and customs. My gggg grandmother was rescued from the Trail of Tears and then lived in TN. And later into Ky. I feel it in my soul and in my heart and in my bones. I am Cherokee and proud of it. Those that don't want to accept me because of a white mans rule are not living as to the Creator's law.

  • @FrontlineElite_HeadHoncho

    That's a $5 Indian 😁

    • @emitabaulenu
      @emitabaulenu Před 3 lety

      No it’s not. That’s Roy Hamilton and he came from a very well known cherokee family. You need to shut up white boy.

    • @emitabaulenu
      @emitabaulenu Před 3 lety

      @Frank Ziebarth THE MAN LITERALLY COMES FROM A WELL KNOWN FAMILY
      (FOREMAN, CHRISTIE, GRANT). DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR DAMN MOUTH.

    • @emitabaulenu
      @emitabaulenu Před 3 lety

      @Frank Ziebarth also the ones who frauded their way on the rolls are extremely documented. The 1896 roll was thrown out for that reason. Literally look up the Dawson Dawes roll case and Kevin Stitt’s family.

    • @emitabaulenu
      @emitabaulenu Před 3 lety

      @Frank Ziebarth oh I saw your previous comment calling him a $5 indian. Roy literally died a couple years ago. The man was raised at Stokes grounds but your fraud ass wouldn’t know what that means.

    • @emitabaulenu
      @emitabaulenu Před 3 lety

      @Frank Ziebarth also, Roy carries his clan MATRILINEALLY. In traditional ways, he IS cherokee and ONLY cherokee because his mother and grandmother were cherokee. I’m Hotvlkvlke through my father but I’m not Mvskoke at all bc I don’t get it from my mom.

  • @mindmesh7566
    @mindmesh7566 Před 2 lety +1

    Mitochondrial DNA is NOT a signifier of “direct descent.” It only reveals: a common female ancestor. Does having a grandmother from Ireland make you Irish? Nope.

  • @martinsmithson
    @martinsmithson Před rokem

    My people

  • @d.r.cherokeetexan4951
    @d.r.cherokeetexan4951 Před 3 lety +2

    And after the Treaty of New Echota; the Cherokee signing party trying to preserve the life of the people were slaughtered by their own relatives (John) as they believed they were betrayed. Buck and Major did not make it but Stand did. Later on it splintered the family; TX, AR, MS and other states. Just some fun facts for many whom share blood in the deer clan.
    Yes, I am white with citizenship to the Cherokee Nation and cdib.
    Always fun to learn new facts.
    Thank you Mr. Hamilton

  • @ItsMrsWeingart
    @ItsMrsWeingart Před 3 lety +1

    This seminar was first recorded in 1989 and I know this because I was there with Antonio Ciano, nephew to William Barr. The Cherokee Nation are descendants of the true Aryans of India, tribe of Napthali. #Hebrews #adrenochrome 📯

  • @junehbee29
    @junehbee29 Před 2 lety

    Does anyone know what Gunnahi means in Cherokee? Thanks

  • @martinsmithson
    @martinsmithson Před rokem

    From Uranus?

  • @shannonstamper1581
    @shannonstamper1581 Před rokem

    Me too Roy I was raised wyte but I'm just Cherokee that's all I am

  • @shannonstamper1581
    @shannonstamper1581 Před rokem +1

    I want my citizenship and anything else I can acquire by being of native American blood

  • @latiniadykes2393
    @latiniadykes2393 Před 4 lety +4

    Our ANCESTORS and The Universe as We know
    will right the wrongs through Nature Herself! We see $5.00 people! This is so SAD!

    • @Outof_thebleu
      @Outof_thebleu Před 4 lety +1

      Right. These people have NO CULTURE. They came over here with Columbus. Smh

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      😆they think because they know sun Cherokee words and they ancestors stole land and identity with the government that makes them Injun by blood which is thee only way you could be Injun 🫠🤣🤌🏽

  • @williammatthews7252
    @williammatthews7252 Před 5 lety

    Born in Mayfield, Kentucky Western Ky, I didnt know any Native Indians were in that area

  • @donnaturner4795
    @donnaturner4795 Před 2 lety

    I don't know how your able to say that cherokee people didn't go by the amount of blood... EBC states you've got to prove yourself by blood and even goes on to say that in order to do so 1/8 - 1/16 th also, by the dawes or baker roll...

  • @andrewjordan252
    @andrewjordan252 Před 4 lety +2

    5 dollar Indian it's not his fault his people lied

  • @battleaxe.
    @battleaxe. Před 4 lety +10

    WOW and LOL, he is Cherokee Indian! These people are too funny. They never get tired of stealing people's heritage.

    • @battleaxe.
      @battleaxe. Před 4 lety +1

      @Ragnar Sims 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

    • @aleta9134
      @aleta9134 Před 3 lety

      My grandma was Cherokee aka N. Carolina Baker Roll and married a Melungeon man with a Scottish name. She always said " The land belongs to no man. Because no man can live as long as the land. " I guess you do not know your history. Cherokee DNA comes from Hitties and Pheonicians and was exiled from the land. The natives were not the true natives. The Pre Clovis and The Clovis and were killed off by the people that took their lands aka most ancestors of all Mid West and West Coast Tribes. They believe that could have been the blackfoot because they have the oldest blood. The plains Indians killed off all the horses aka scared dogs eat their meat. The horses here now can be traced back to Spaniard horses.

    • @namedrop721
      @namedrop721 Před 2 lety +1

      Who gave you the right to decide? Not indigenous people, that’s certain. We don’t want pot stirrers like you here.

    • @mindmesh7566
      @mindmesh7566 Před 2 lety

      The Cherokees were not Hittites (Porto Indo Europeans; referred to as the “Hatti” by the Hebrews) or Phoenician (Semites with extensive colonies around the Mediterranean as well as their cousins the Carthaginians in North Africa).

  • @shannonstamper1581
    @shannonstamper1581 Před rokem

    And Sioux

  • @joelbeach3087
    @joelbeach3087 Před 7 lety

    How do i join im A-

  • @judithsingleton6593
    @judithsingleton6593 Před 3 lety

    You can ‘t steal my heritage I know I’m Cherokee by blood of my grandfather on my grandmother side!

  • @butterflySmiles2
    @butterflySmiles2 Před 6 lety +1

    Great great grandmother Jencey Jane Shadwick, birth Sept. 1876, North most likely Hayward die December 30th 1966 she is considered full blood, doesn't say what nationality white, Georgia , they all ended up in Polk, Tenn. Grandmother, Alice married a man called Benefield she is from April 14th 1896 North Carolina she got married in Monroe County Tennessee and she died November 24th 1980 Sweetwater Tennessee,
    I may have met her, I'm adopted, I had four sisters and one brother, DNA I had done comes back 1% Native American , which is fine with me, my mother mother and grandmother so it is down the women's line for Native American what you were saying it what I look this will get information through ancestry DNA I don't expect to have Cherokee rights which is okay with me I can barely handle the rights I have now but very good it was very clear

  • @chrisjohnson261
    @chrisjohnson261 Před 2 lety +1

    Why would a the US government take the land from the white man playing Indian. Then give it back to him for no reason at all? People are so dumb. It's clear who the Indegenous Aboriginal Amarukans are and it's just not you.. But don't worry. We working.

  • @midnitewaterchief
    @midnitewaterchief Před 2 lety

    They were very successful at converting Cherokee people I don't know a Cherokee today that isn't christian

  • @The3granch
    @The3granch Před 6 lety +1

    Cherokee Citizen great talk all inform so many others and to be proud To be Cherokee Lobe it always known who I was . Allotment over by casino Cemetery always Wonder if we are cousins ? Know we are brothers

  • @agenticmark
    @agenticmark Před 6 měsíci

    That is exactly how I lost my rights. My great great grandfather chose to take us citizenship and we lost everything. Ended up a poor family just off the res and not good enough for the local whites.
    I got the blood but we aren't on the final rowe

    • @agenticmark
      @agenticmark Před 6 měsíci

      I now live in Mexico on a ejido which is very much the same way my people used to live. We own our house I built but not the land it is on

  • @Runinfox
    @Runinfox Před 3 lety

    Izzz white mostly but grandma through G grandma was Cherokee(Maybe) What I do KNOW is Tablerock(Attacoa) is Mystic Mountain of Cherokees.. I claimed it 6/6/9 after tranversing it three times Clockwise and Shouting three times(about High Noon) I took care of Golden Heather(very rare Herb only here no place else on Planet Earth) NO WHERE.
    20 years protecting it/pruning/loving/respecting(since it has Medicinal Value).
    It has Sacred altar with intuitive attributes and a Chief's Head made up of mainly Quartz.
    I AM More Cherokee than Most for I Honor Its Holy Ground and play with its Holy Herb.
    Doesn't matter what color or How much Cherokee---I Live the LIFE---DO YOU???

  • @AntiQris
    @AntiQris Před rokem

    This could end today. I’ll take the cross if you will support the return of the Cherusci freedom with me. How could any politician stand behind these things on camera today, with me pressing them. ?

  • @andrewjordan252
    @andrewjordan252 Před 4 lety +4

    I always heard white people saying there Indians but I was confused then I found out that most Indians legal on paper are white but the original Indians were black

    • @andrewjordan252
      @andrewjordan252 Před 4 lety

      Its funny how the Indians and pilgrims are the same people

    • @siksika4603
      @siksika4603 Před 3 lety +1

      No evidence of them being black...

    • @DrowningAreYou
      @DrowningAreYou Před 3 lety +1

      I’m Black and Chahta. I don’t necessarily subscribe to the Natives were actually Black people narrative, but we were, in fact, very brown skin people. I was told when I was little that most of us used to be my skin color, which is bronze with a reddish tint. We also had more full lips and coarser hair, like I have. So to say we were once just Black, it isn’t that far off, I don’t believe. But it’s not the same simply because the ancestors chose it to be that way. Personally, I believe it’s about who you are in your heart. Not about any of that other bs.

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      @@DrowningAreYouAborigines were dark in complexion and had very strong facial features that looked negroid we are not black that is a word the colonizers labeled us

  • @ritalee7272
    @ritalee7272 Před 3 lety

    My mom and mom and brother 100$ percent north county Halifax and Franklin co

  • @Moorishman13
    @Moorishman13 Před 2 měsíci

    Just because u have citizenship in Cherokee tribe does not make u Cherokee and Cherokee is not a race it's a tribe.

  • @blackbearbear9313
    @blackbearbear9313 Před rokem

    You don't know Cherokee ways you know your clan ways I know your way I'm paint clan

  • @hyhw1680
    @hyhw1680 Před 3 lety +2

    no your not. Father Sky and Mother Earth knows there Children. HAWAAHH!!

  • @kjun03
    @kjun03 Před 5 lety +2

    Some Cherokee on paternal side! Seminoles (who don’t care to hear Cherokee or Jackson) and others took me in by merely my conversation
    My ancestors live inside of me and it is noticeable!!! There is much other blood but I’m.not an Oklahoma Cherokee! No one will dictate who or what I am ! This glass of milk can yak on anything he wants! It’s his right!
    I still have the dark hair, chiseled Cherokee bone structure and full of fire with or without alcohol!!!

  • @MikeCharles62
    @MikeCharles62 Před 3 lety

    Cherokee was No better than the European colonists with their Manifest destiny . A lot of smaller tribe lost their Identity do to the 5 civilized tribe. However this information is very helpful!

    • @terrydavis9319
      @terrydavis9319 Před 3 lety

      How you disrespect these people your an ignorant joke take that to heart obviously trailer

    • @MikeCharles62
      @MikeCharles62 Před 3 lety +2

      You need to study more !

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      Most of the real Indians lost their Identity because the white made them classify as negro while these people were stealing the identity of my ancestors 😆

  • @thomaswilson1631
    @thomaswilson1631 Před rokem

    How is that the us government strip the Cherokee of their status if they remain on their land, would become people of color yet the Cherokee people are wanting to do the same to people of color who are the same as native Indian Cherokee by blood not as much,seems to be double standards.

  • @lovemyalaskaful
    @lovemyalaskaful Před 2 lety

    Osiyo

  • @whiteowl8703
    @whiteowl8703 Před 2 lety

    Lobby = Law Suit

  • @ednalucky9072
    @ednalucky9072 Před 5 lety +1

    We are of the same clan My mother was of the BIRD CLAN .

  • @dalton7145
    @dalton7145 Před 2 lety

    I thought it was a Cherokee saying that even 1 drop of Cherokee blood, makes you Cherokee? To many the Chickasaw Nation seems way more European, except if you ever go to their Cultural Center in Sulfa Okla.

    • @robertchandler3295
      @robertchandler3295 Před rokem

      It is the tribes that are more 'European' that are making stringent rules on what it means to be cherokee and other tribes that look European.

  • @shannon8666
    @shannon8666 Před 3 měsíci

    Gvgevi Sala Yona ❤️

  • @Wayne_omega_cars
    @Wayne_omega_cars Před 2 lety +1

    that’s a $5 Indian 😂😂😂😂

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      Exactlyyyyyy these Asians and Whites are infatuated with our culture they wanna be us so bad

  • @joelbeach3087
    @joelbeach3087 Před 7 lety +1

    i have huge fangs its weird lol

  • @Robertholiday-
    @Robertholiday- Před 3 lety

    North caroline

  • @joelbeach3087
    @joelbeach3087 Před 7 lety

    my mom comes from Belgian royalty and my grandmom was half cherokee

  • @whiteowl8703
    @whiteowl8703 Před 2 lety

    The difference between Scotland and Cherokee Nation is Scotland has made a pathway for you to reunite or even become a Scotsman. Cherokee Nation say *+^#% you. Anyone know why??? I do 😉

  • @xqzt_media
    @xqzt_media Před 4 lety +2

    $5 dollar Indians

  • @kattmoore941
    @kattmoore941 Před rokem +1

    WHYYYYY,.... Are we using the Creek word, a word that's not even in our language and calling our tribe, "Cherokee"?? 😳🤷🏽‍♀️😳
    Gee, could it be all the yonegas/wasicus/whts that jumped in on our homelands, claiming to be some Indigenous American tribe, that does not even exist, at least NOT by that name. My family refused to leave our homelands, here in the Southeast, and you guessed it, we are the true Aniyunwiya, the original Tsalagi, or what yonegas/wasicus/whts call " Cherokee" and the scrolls, rolls, whatever it's called, is eat up with my family and my family's names, both sides. I will NEVER leave our homelands, I will die on, and feed our homelands. Our ancestors are here. Our blood runs through these lands, through the roots and trunks, stems, and leaves of the trees, through our animal brothers and sisters, and in our waters, as water is electrical, just like our spirits/souls.
    Please, my brothers and sisters, we are a great nation of Indigenous, we always have been, but PLEASE wake up and realize, we are a sovereign nation, we have sovereignty, which means "Rulers of the land, those who have the final say, as to what happens with our land, means, we are the rulers over Turtle Island/North America, and as soon as our people realize this, and step up, because we are still in charge of Turtle Island.
    ALL of Georgia was once our territory, part of Alabama, part of Florida, North Carolina, south Carolina, Kentucky Tennessee, and west Virginia and Virginia, THIS was Tsalagi territory. Still is, and will forever be.
    Wake up, brothers and sisters, it's time we take step up and our place, as a sovereign people, and as the Stewards of the Earth. Love to all. Osda

    • @Cuttahmup
      @Cuttahmup Před rokem

      Exactly only foreigners and imposters call Aniyunwiya Cherokee 😆

    • @kattmoore941
      @kattmoore941 Před rokem

      @@Cuttahmup we are TSALAGI tribe, ANIYUNWIYA are the original TSALAGI, not the TSALAGI watered down with other tribes' blood, in Oklahoma, not watered down with YONEGA/WASICU blood, either, pure bloods, from the Tsalagi who escaped capture, went higher up into the mountains, where yonegas/wasicus were afraid to go, and lived out their lives, as they always have, I was raised old ways, my family are a long line of medicine and spiritual leaders.
      Osda

  • @terrydavis9319
    @terrydavis9319 Před 3 lety

    I don't apologize for this im white and I will not disrespect good people if I have Cherokee in my bloodline I've got a lot of people in my family that claim they have that in bloodline no DNA test I think its terrible to be 5 dollar God give the earth back to these meek people

  • @martinsmithson
    @martinsmithson Před rokem

    Smiths

  • @og-greenmachine8623
    @og-greenmachine8623 Před 3 lety

    Like a white dude would know🙄