The Qur'an Lies?!? - Creating the Qur’an with Dr. Jay - Episode 48
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- The Qur'an claims that it has never been changed but has been eternally preserved by Allah. Unfortunately for Muslims, this is impossible to prove because there have been many, many changes to the Qur'an throughout the years. This is incredibly damaging to Islam. The more research done on the Quranic manuscripts, the more damning the evidence that the Qur'an is man-made. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay continue uncovering the lies of the Qur'an.
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There's no contradictions in quran!! ALL of its teachings are in full compliance with Satan.
Like, when the Quran says the Torah and Gospels are true?
Dear "@@mrbaab5932" : There is TRUTH that Satan is afraid of and cannot even deny it, for example:
It is written:
“As surely as I live, says the Lord:
every knee will bow before Me;
every tongue will confess to God.” (Romans 14:11) ☝️😇
@@mrbaab5932 Do you believe in the quran? The quran that says that the Torah and Gospels are true?
If so then The Torah and Gospels, as TRUTH, show that the quran is FALSE...
Followers of Satan nude and worshippers of falsegods say this for self consumption and satisfaction
@@polokucoch8112 All religius scripts are false, no exception.
When you start your cult saying that Jesus was not crucified, what wouldn't you lie about?
@@defenderoftruth3212 The Crucifixion you deny is attested to even by nonbelievers and historians from that exact time. You deny history, we proclaim it...
@@defenderoftruth3212
The man, book, city if any of these are false so is their whole religion according to their own teaching.
The man, (their false prophet if he ever existed), wasn't written about until 180+ years at the earliest after he supposedly lived.
There are still 31+ different qurans that can be found and bought today teaching some 93,000+ significant doctrinal differences.
The city itself simply does not exist in any of the trade route or historical records or on any early maps we have from that time period as there was no water supply there.
If just one of their tenants are proven false none of them can be true.
What do you call a three legged stool with no legs?
Useless.
Come home to Christ where we've faced all the critics and proven so many of their arguments false.
Many a critic has been determined to disprove the Bible but found their faith instead, which is different from any other religion on earth...
Our Faith is based on historical truths whereas your cult can produce nothing in writing from the time it supposedly began until at least 180 plus years after your so called prophet supposedly lived.
Friend you have a zeal for faith but are so terribly misguided by the teaching of men. I do not hate you in fact I have love for you because I can see your misguided faith. I want to ask that you research the things you deny because as it stands now, what you've said is not only a lie but a lie against the LORD and His Son. The all powerful LORD GOD, (Yahweh), is One. Once you begin to research you will find why we believe in the Trinity that is anything but three gods or that somehow the Son of God was ever created...
@@defenderoftruth3212 I see your alah is a deceiver and put an innocent man who never claimed to be the Son of God in His place. Okay got it...
@@defenderoftruth3212 I'd also point out that you just cut up the quran because that is not the entire verse/surah is it?
@@defenderoftruth3212 Also you should maybe look into the exposition of that verse/surah that is not your understanding of it from those who are held as teachers in your misguided religion.
Thank you for sharing this so important information. God bless you.
O what a tangled web they weaved when first they began to deceive!
Can Moslems explain why their Allah even has to have a book that's eternal, and so small that it's 10% the size of the Bible. Most of the rituals that Moslems do aren't even in the Quran.
Because Quran was revealed by god with straightforward, unambiguous statement, and guidance to all human kind by a single author called Allah.
The bible is big in size, with multiple versions,multiple authors, and constant alterations. My question is has any one memorised the bible till date ? Negative.
Quran is memorised by thousands to million since time it was revealed and facilitate to do so with a purpose, even when you destroy all the Quran in the world, it can be compiled in same authentic sequence.
Allah is the laziest antity ever existed
Is the quran created or encreated?
@@mawulomyashuavi3303 Poorly copied from the Bible and Torah.
Yes
Holy quran is concise
It is eternal because human race needs it
God does not need any thing
God bless you all
I have looked at what the Quraysh pagans did and what they believed in. It was actually almost all taken over 1 to 1, only the other gods were canceled.
The pilgrimage to Mecca, the Kaaba as a sacred sanctuary, the use of the lunar calendar, the sacrifice of animals, the stoning of the devil's pillars, Tawaf (circumambulation of the Kaaba), Sa'i (running back and forth between the hills of Safa and Marwa), Zamzam Water, Ramadan as a fasting period, praying moves, spinning dancing, and also the name of their God "Allah". Name, not a title.
Even in the ritual "Ramy al-Jamarat" (devil-stoning) the lie is obvious. Abraham, who lived from 2000-1800 BC, is said to have walked to Mecca 1300km away and then thrown stones at the devil.
However, his tribe Quraysh already had this ritual without this madeup Abraham story.
God Bless you both.
Imagine a perfect all-capable god sending so many prophets who's word, as an all knowing, would be "corrupted", only to defend 1 prophet specifically and not 100,000 others.
We thank God for your wonderful work. Praying for your ministry.
How about fixing their logo that shows the moon larger than the stars😂
Jesus never prayed toward the kabba or recognized it as a holy place of God in the quran or the bible..... by default he was not a muslim...😢
Not only that, but the muslims changed the place they pray toward, so it could not ever have been true and correct.
@@defenderoftruth3212😂😂😂that’s not talking about your rock, that shape like a toilet.
Your a funny dude
@@defenderoftruth3212 muslims french kiss black stone pagan style and perform pagan rituals around it because they have pagan belief that it can forgive sin.
But... they're not pagans
@@defenderoftruth3212
Woooo you done messed up...... this is a prophecy of the messiah being rejected by the people...... thought you had something did ya.......
Now here where it gets hard for you.... why in the quran didn't jesus talk about the kabba....? Why didnt jesus pray toward the kabba? Why use corrupt sources to look for answers... your quran is clear right?? Why didnt jesus teach the 5 pillars to the disciples? Why did Jesus uphold the 10 commandments? and the commandments exist today as a moral standard for jews and Christians but isn't found in the quran....
Don't you think it's a bit silly to label something as corrupt then use it to prove a point you have no context on....
Come on you can do better...... Come to christ you just proved to me that his prophecy is valid, out of pure convience...which is sad but go to start somewhere if you truly want to know the messiah Yeshua.....
SHALOM
@@defenderoftruth3212
Woooo you done messed up...... this is a prophecy of the messiah being rejected by the people...... thought you had something did ya.......
Now here where it gets hard for you.... why in the quran didn't jesus talk about the kabba....? Why didnt jesus pray toward the kabba? Why use corrupt sources to look for answers... your quran is clear right?? Why didnt jesus teach the 5 pillars to the disciples? Why did Jesus uphold the 10 commandments? and the commandments exist today as a moral standard for jews and Christians but isn't found in the quran....Since you want to use our scriptures god is called the father in the NT and OT...what happened in the quran? Are you sure jesus is a muslim?
Don't you think it's a bit silly to label something as corrupt then use it to prove a point, you have no context on....
Come on you can do better...... Come to the Messiah, you just proved to me that his prophecy is valid, out of pure convience...which is sad because THERE ARE NO PROPHICES OF THE MESSIAH IN THE QURAN PERIOD.... but you have to start somewhere when your ignorant( without knowledge)
Come back to Messiah Yeshua, he is waiting on you...
SHALOM.
You guys haven't dealt with the scientific errors in the Koran.
What? Isn't the earth flat?😅
N women have sperm produce around necklace area.
Only muslimah have breasticle... spectacular species 😂
I am sure they did.
They already have! Check their playlists. I vividly remember watching their videos about that.
That's because mountains are in fact planted on top of flat earth *surah 79:32* which is again, carried on the back of a whale named Nun *tafsir ibn abbas 68.1* and so, the question becomes... How could al Lah know these scientific facts 1400 years ago?
Do you see how this is actually miracles?
Bless AlFadi and Doc Jay! 🙏🏻
EVEN with LIES islam DIES
islam has no future in our modern world.
ButAllah in sky
Will not die
So prostrate before Him
When you do so all religions will come together and will worship God beside you
@@abdullahkhaili3697 allah only exists in your dumb heads.
Christ Jesus be glorified !
@@defenderoftruth3212 Your Issa has no glory: his name translates to “Esau,” and not to Yeshua. The true Yeshua ha’Mashiach of the Bible is God Incarnate, Immanuel (“God with us”), the King of Kings and LORD of Lords your allah is so terrified of on judgment day. All power, glory and honor are His.
I have a translation of the Quran to my language (Finnish). My father bought it some decades ago when he went to work in the Saudi Arabia. It's one of the most boring books I have tried to read.
Read 12th chapter called joseph
It is very interesting
And so relentlessly contradictory.
Boring, error-filled, incoherent, and horribly evil.
It was a copied work fr.many sources:Bible,1000 tales of the Arabian Nights,Hinduism, Buddhism n many other sources-that's why there is no order,continuity of ideas,logic n sense n soundness of mind.
The only religion that guarantee hell to it's follower. Maryam 71.
Remove the name of Jesus from the Quran here we go we have a fiction book full of controversies a book even the highest Muslim scholars cannot defend Allah is omnipotent they say and they close the chapter
Please read the Quran first.. dont believe what your preacher said
ESV But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:8-9
Gospel accordding to Mark
Gospel accordding to John
Gospel accordding to Matthew
Gospel accordding to Luke
4 acceptence by most majority
Other Gospel
Gospel accordding to Thomas
Gospel accordding to James
Gospel accordding to Peter
Gospel accordding to Judas
Gospel accordding to Andrew
Where Gospel from Jesus himself?
[2:159] Those who conceal our revelations and guidance, after proclaiming them for the people in the scripture, are condemned by GOD; they are condemned by all the condemners.
@@motorcyclesdream6921lol bro the preachers in church don’t talk about Islam bro 😂😂 they talk about the scriptures and read from scripture.
I never heard the term Muslim or Islam in church nor any convention or gathering with other churches.
Until I find CZcams.
Well that a lie I heard the term Islam in religious class once when they talk about the different religion in the world.( in school) no where else.
But I bet you iman and shirk talk about Jews and Christian’s 😂😂😂
@@Akhgy You cannot stop or prevent their paranoia, their entire cultures are fuelled and run on extreme paranoia, hence why they have more civil wars than all other ideologies combined. . ., they have been operating on high octane paranoia for centuries as though all the other beliefs of the world set out to destroy theirs.
Quite how these conspiracies were created though? When almost all the other beliefs existed centuries before their beliefs made from cut, copy pasting many aspects of the others. . but they cling to their lame conspiracy theories to add to the insane mental gymnastics of their books that talk in absolute riddles and utter fallacies.
I hope you continue to show those differences all one by one to reveal the errors of the Quran .
Thanks a lot
God bless U because the important work U do to inform people and make them know.
that the holes has standard narratives in it
Standard Islam native (sin) do indeed have holes in it
THE ROLLS OF PAPERS I BUY NEVER CHANGES😂😂😂😂
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WITHOUT LIES ISLAM DIES ⚠️
Too bad till now many came to Islam not blindly but they made a research and compare between Quran and bible...
Alhamdulillah........
History doesn't prove that. Where is the evidence of the Quran?
@@Jamal-rg6br
Which quran should we compare ?
Hafs? Warsh? Kaloon? Al-Duri? Al-Susi?
There are 37 different Arabic quran.
Different countries have different Arabic quran.
Stupid alien 👽 don't recognise @@calvarymarketing2566
@@calvarymarketing2566 If you mean empirical evidence then the comparison between the bible and the Quran is not even close.
There were no copies of the Bible until the 4th Century in 325 AD, while the actual copies of the Quran can be traced to the Lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad (SAW).
The leading New Testament scholar Bruce Metzger, "Of the approximately five thousand Greek manuscripts of all or parts of the New Testament that are known today, no two agree exactly in all particulars." The process of sifting through these manuscripts and variants is known as TEXTUAL CRITICISM.
To sum up, the New Testament you have in your hand is not what Jesus came with.
If Satan had a book it would have a lot if things in common with Quran and Hadith
Satan is the creator.
Hadith i agree, but the quran? Give us an example
@@davidsherburne8429at least you believe there is a creator!!
@@davidsherburne8429 YES ,
WITH OR WITHOUT LIES ISLAM DIES .The truth is being revealed 🎉
@@defenderoftruth3212Allah, Mohmmad Jebraeel are all one, Mohmmad, inspired by Satan
Allah has perfectly preserved the quran by his miracles of additions, deletions, revisions, and redactions. How can any disbelieve with such obvious miracles!
Lol
You are qualified for being a Comedian 🤡
Yes historically god of quraise . By the way allah is He? If He then how explained ?
sura 85:21 to 22
The quran was inscribed on a tablet before it a recital which contradicts it’s meaningl. Surah 85:21~22 (Nay; but his is a glorious Qur'an, inscribed on a well-guarded Tablet. That is, the writ of the Quran is unchangeable and imperishable. It is inscribed in the guarded tablet of God, which cannot be corrupted in any way. Whatever is written in it has to be fulfilled: even the whole world together cannot avert its fulfillment.. NOT A SINGLE DIALECT CAN BE ADDED. NOT EVEN A SINGLE LETTER CAN BE CHANGED. NOT A SINGLE ACCENT CAN BE CHANGED. NOT A SINGLE ABROGATION CAN HAPPEN.
The corrupted quran :
sura 37:12
hafs quran : But you (mahamed) wonder, while they mock - ajebta
khalaf quran : But I (allah) wonder, while they mock - ajebto
The changed and CORRUPTED quran dilemma = allah(peace be upon HER) is 100% FALSE :
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with, her) reported that it had been revealed in the Holy Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle died and it was before that time (found) in the Holy Qur'an (and recited by the Muslims).
sahih muslim 1452a, book 17, hadith 30
Show me in the quran the verse of the 5 sucklings
هاها نارمن فول
Is it true what Bukhari says, that Momhd took a Dump outside Al Aksa Mosque?
Gob bless you brothers.
muhammads name is qutham and its not mentioned once. "mhmd" is an title aramaeic of jesus, not qutham.
EXACTLY!!! MO’s real name is Qutham Ibn Abd Al-Lat, so Qutham son of the slave of Al-Lat, who then changed it to Muhammad (one of the titles of Jesus) son of slave of Allah at the age of 40 when he started a cult where he himself is worshipped first and foremost, just how Jesus is worshipped in Christianity. Muhammad means the praised and worshipped one even in Arabic!
@@defenderoftruth3212 you don’t understand the difference between a name and a TITLE! And why don’t you read the Islamic siras? They confirm your “prophet”’s birth name.
Jay and Al Fadi, thx. for the informational videos.
The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology
As I’m again working on some of these early catholic unitarians, I thought I’d re-post this talk I gave in May of 2013, at the Theological Conference in Atlanta. (Here are the slides if you want to click through them as you listen.) This was just before I started the podcast. The paper moves quickly through some big names of pre-Nicene catholic Christianity. I show that they were to a man unitarians, and not trinitarians, as many would prefer to believe. This has been pointed out in some detail before, in the 17th century, in the 18th century, and again in the 19th century. On the whole, the trinitarian tradition prefers not to hear the detailed case for this. It raises too many uncomfortable questions. This is why they keep forgetting or covering up these facts.
Since this talk I have continued to work in more depth on Tertullian, resulting in this podcast and this published paper.
God willing, a revised version of this talk will be a chapter in a future book.
Many thanks to Sharon and Dan Gill for recording and editing this. See their 21st Century Reformation website for many helpful unitarian Christian resources. You can download the video or audio of this talk there.
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Go to website trinities.org
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Someone needs to write a new version of the quran with detailed verse per verse cross referenced commentary from you guys, David Wood, AP and so many others that demonstrate just how many lies is embedded in the book and hadiths
Honest and clinical analysis of textual claims versus historical accuracy based on the evidence is compelling. Many thanks for this extraordinary effort to compare verified historical truth against dogma
Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Woe to those who perfectly preserve their unpreserved book and claim Al lah preserved it.
Surah Al-Baqarah verses 1-5
1. Praise be to Allah who created the heavens and the earth, and made darkness and light, yet the disbelievers still associate partners with their Lord.
2. It is He who created you from clay, then He appointed ajal (your death), and a certain time limit that only He knows. However, you still doubt it
3. And He is Allah (who is worshipped), in the heavens and on the earth; He knows what you keep secret and what you declare and knows (also) what you do.
4. And every verse from God's verses that reaches them (the disbelievers), they always deny.
5. Indeed, they have denied the truth (of the Qur'an) when it reached them, so in the future there will come to them (the reality of) the news which they always ridiculed.
it only means that allah isnt really sure about of what hes thinking...thats very well preserved really means by them
@@defenderoftruth3212 Show verifiable proof of invisible sky pillars holding up the sky? Why do birds and aircraft not crash in mid air if such things exist. Bring clear evidence That the moon is more distant from earth than stars or planets, these and many other fallacies are just 2 examples of many errors in your bed time horror story book.
@@defenderoftruth3212 exactly. Because al Lah has a face, two hands and both of his hands are right hands, he has five fingers (some hadeths say six), he has a handsome shin which implies his shin is more divine than rest of al Lah, he has one foot and he has no spirit.
@@defenderoftruth3212 No. You do not understand arabic, so let mohammed hijab give you a lesson. "Allah prays _for_ not to the prophet."
Who is allah praying to then, when he prays for the prophet?
Jesus was the living word of God.
No!! He was the living shit of God. #proudtobeanathesit
@@Sultan70509 Talking about that, did flaming homosexual mupedohammad take bath in well of bud'dah in which escrements and dead dogs was thrown *Sunan Abi Dawud 67* ?
"And those who deny Our revelations, We will let them gradually (toward destruction), in a way they do not know." (QS. Al-A'raf: 182)
"So leave (the matter) to Me and those who deny this word (Al-Qur'an). Later We will judge them gradually from a direction they do not know." (QS. Al-Qalam: 44)
"Indeed, the grace period that We gave them was only for their sins to increase; and they will have a humiliating punishment.” (QS. Ali 'Imran: 178)
You should check out the 12th century copy of the quran found in malaga spain in 2003. It is from al-yayyar, together with 2 other manuscripts. It has a pdf version. I wonder how much it varies with the hafs. It also has a facsimile
Allah has a new IOS 18 version to download.
YES! 🤣🤣🤣
It is very obvious that the Quran has been changed. In fact, there are verses that should not be in today's Hafz Quran. They added verses to the Quran.
They changed the place of the words, changed the order of the verses, and changed the meaning of the words.
e.g. 4;11-12
The share of the father and brothers is not specified in these verses.
The share of children and brothers is not specified.
But this is not an excuse for us because God is warning us about these changes.
There is active preservation of the Quran through a process of collaborative evolution. This means that older text can be abrogated, newer ones can be added, absurds one can be burnt and irrelevant ones can be buried or hidden for ever. This process is active and evolving.
Told you so!
..Yaseer Qadhi .
Holes in SIN commentator
😅
You guys it's fantastic what you are showing us its just amazing why we are not seeing it on mainstream TV has it would help people make the right choice on the terrorist problems and Israel saga
Al lah does not think properly before releasing a verse. He then abrogate it.
Allah of islam real queer 😂
@@defenderoftruth3212 Can you recite the verses on stoning and breast feeding for adult men please *sunan ibn majah 1944*
@@defenderoftruth3212 go check the meaning of “repent”.
dreaming of the world without islam that is so peaceful day.
@@defenderoftruth3212 That claim contradicts all observable evidence based on reality of verifiable thermodynamics, any other fables from a children's bed time horror stories you want debunked?
@@defenderoftruth3212 I dunno, I mean what god enters into hell fire *sahih albukhari 4848*
@@defenderoftruth3212 I thought it was the lizard. I mean who can believe these bs stories from a confirmed mentally ill pdf file. The lizard blew on the fire on abraham, because it wanted abraham to burn? So this is childish, doesn't even have a point, but still muslims must slaughter the gecko and they have a point system too, dependant on how many stones are used to do it.
This lizard is the enemy of al Lah obviously, and when you see its satanic smile, its sharp and pointy teeths, not least its _bones_ you will also understand that this is the most vile reptile on earth. Crocodile dundee is even afraid of it.
Hi jay.
Adnan r saying umayyad used circulate byzantine coins bearing cross .
Rather minting coins expense they used byzantine coins used by umayyad.
How u respond
How and how? Muslims still believe in Hadith and Quran in which there is no way of salvation. Actually, Muslims do not believe in Allah but they keep those books for certain purposes
Who told you that? Your preacher.. i laugh so hard when Christian lied to their own self
indoctrination from birth
@@defenderoftruth3212 Bring forensically verifiable evidence of a single human bone belonging to a being 27 meters (60 cubits ) tall, the stealing of abandoned Jewish fables, such as such massive giants, and many other stolen fables from several other cultures, prove your beliefs are a construct fabricated to control the minds of weak men.
Yes, they had to change up what 1zlamic 🔪JUSTICE🔪 looks like!
In The Quran -- Muhammad"UUUN "" and Muhammad"IIIN "" Both are Indicate that -- a Mh-maaad or a Muhammad meanig a Title --Indefinite Noun , Maaaad meaning-- Common Noun ,
Mount--Maaaad = Mhun""UUUN " + Maaaad"UUUN " = Mh-maaad"UUUN" = A Mh-maaad
In this Point -- Mh came From Mountain Meaning -- High , Holy , great ,
In this Point --Maaaad Came From Nation - Nation of Maaaad , Maaaadi or Maaaad"UUUN " , Maaaad"eeeeen ,
See-- Maaad Meaning-- Quran --Surah No--28 , Iaaat No -- 85 , Al-Qasas meaning -- a Place of Israel ,
Simple questions
Where Gospel from Jesus himself?
You have many gospel none of them Not accordding to Jesus himself
@@hufun3789
Jesus spoke aramaic
Gospels are in Latin (and not in aramaic)
And other national languages
Syrians were educated people
They wasted the original teachings
Arabs were uneducated.but they did not waste original revelation
Greatest man in history, had no servants, yet they called Him master. Had no degree, yet they called Him teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is JESUS.
First I've had to add something about the eclipses here to the beginning of my research because so many are jumping on bandwagons about the last of the three on April 8th somehow being a sign. There are actually three eclipses over the last seven years and two have already occurred. The three in total will create the Hebrew letter of Aleph over the USA, not an X as is being spread far and wide. I have no idea what it means or if anything will happen on that day other than this convergence of swarms of cicadas/locusts that has been seen many times in history. Only the Father knows the hour and day He will send His Son to collect His Bride, just as it was in ancient Hebrew weddings. I do however have something that has been put on my heart to share as far and wide as I can. I'm leaving it here in this comment section and it is a lot of reading and more importantly verses that all should study who are seeking understanding. I'm in no way saying our being "caught up" will occur on April 8th as we do not know the day or the hour and anyone claiming differently should be viewed skeptically or even as a false prophet until they're proven true by Him. We must judge and weigh everything we see or hear by God's Word, just as we're told the Bereans did..
Thank you for trying to open eyes and hearts to bring them home to the true and living LORD.
To everyone reading this keep asking, keep seeking and keep knocking as we're told to do. Pray, study, pray and as promised more will be given you.
Please do not be one of those who has even the little they have taken away for lack of discernment found only in His Word.
I'm leaving this comment everywhere I can before it's to late as a testament to the Truth. So those left may understand and know why so many have suddenly disappeared. The true reason will be hidden behind lies and deceptions I can't even imagine but this should help leave no doubt as to what actually occurred.
Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has come for His Bride, (all true believers, His Bride), so that where He is we may be also, just as He's promised in Scripture.
I want to share some information about His gathering of His Church, Christ's Bride to Himself.
Just some information to help understand why so many are blinded today to the "Doctrine of Imminency".
This should help when you are attacked for a Pre-Trib view or if you are confused about it.
The Great Tribulation is the Holy Wrath of God and the Lamb being poured out on the deserving.
Show me from Scripture where God has allowed His Wrath to be poured out on those He's found righteous, other than our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus as a propitiation for all?
The tribulations of today and the past that Jesus and Scripture warned us of are perpetrated by the sinful, men/women, this fallen world, not the LORD.
The Great Tribulation, (they also warned of), will be God and the Lamb's Holy Wrath poured out on the deserving and none else.
P - Placement of His Church (Revelation)
R - Removal of the Restrainer
E - Exempt from God's Wrath (as promised in Scripture)
T - Twenty Four Elders (with crowns priests/kings)
R - Rapture confused with Second Coming
I - Imminent return of Christ
B - Blessed Hope
Augustine of Hippo, (354-430), was one of the church fathers as they're known. He is revered as a great teacher but flawed by the circumstances of his day. He taught during the time of monarchies and rather than offend them he did not teach as those that came before him such as Clement, Ignatius, Irenaeus, Ephraim, Polycarp and many others. He's the first we see in history who downplayed and didn't truly teach the "Doctrine of Imminency" according to Scripture. I'd imagine those in the monarchy would not have liked to be told how the real and true King, our Lord and Savior, the Lord of Lords and King of kings could return at any moment. As a result for all the sound doctrine and his magnificent work against heresies Augustine has left behind in his writings, his lack of teaching on the "Doctrine of Imminency" has left a lasting impression on our faith. There is also another huge issue in that Augustine was a "supersessionist" as in he taught in his work the "City of God" that the Church had replaced Israel as the LORD's Chosen. This of course is not true, the Church has been grafted into the "rich root" of promise and has in no way replaced Israel as the apple of God's eye and His chosen people. The Apostle Paul has amazing teaching on this in his Epistle the Book of Romans chapters 9-11.
I often hear those that confuse the Trumpet of God, (Shofar), with the Trumpets in the Book of Revelation. They apparently have no understanding of how the LORD used the Trumpet of God in the Old Testament to signal His People to come/gather to Him for Instruction, Worship or to follow Him.
Please study these Scriptures:
Gen 5:24, Mal 3:16-18 (and many other typologies in the OT), John 14:1-3, Matt 25:13, Mark 13:32-37, 1 Cor 15:51-53, 1 Thes 4:13-18, Rom 8:19, 1 Cor 1:7-8, 1 Cor 16:22, Phil 3:20-21, Col 3:4, 1 Thes 1:10, 1 Thes 2:19, 1 Thes 5:4-9, 1 Thes 5:23, 2 Thes 2:1-3a, 1 Tim 6:14, 2 Tim 4:1, Titus 2:13, Heb 9:28, Heb 10:37, James 5:7-9, 1 Peter 1:7 (13), 1 John 2:28 - 3:2, Jude 21, Rev 3:10-13, Rev 4:1 (4), Rev 22:20.
These are just some of the verses of Scripture that point to the Rapture, our being "caught up", throughout the Bible. Many are types and examples that prefigure, (typology), the event and others point straight to it or are reasons/promises.
Something extremely interesting is when you realize the Greek word translated as "apostacy" has dual meanings. It can mean rebellion or a falling away, (as most English translations show), but or more shockingly it can be translated as "departure". With that in mind go study 2 Thessalonians 2:3a again.
Now tell me what you see in the Word of God. Tell me you don't see it, the (Harpazo/Rapturo/Rapio)? Watch as the early followers of the "Way" are told to encourage each other with the words of Jesus and the Apostles John, Peter and Paul. As their instruction is for us to be ever looking upward for our Lord's imminent return at any moment. Paul's proclaiming of, When the dead in Christ will be raised first and then we who remain will be changed in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, and be "caught up" together with them to meet our Lord in the clouds/air/heavens.
Notice it isn't on the ground that we will meet our Lord, but in the air?
An early Hymn of Praise and Hope:
Jesus may come today.
Glad day! Glad day!
And I would see my friend!
Dangers and troubles would end,
If Jesus should come today.
Jesus is coming to earth again.
What if it were today?
the Didache dated about 100-120 A.D., which contains the exhortation: "Watch for your life's sake. Let not your lamps be quenched, nor your loins unloosed; but be ye ready, for ye know not the hour in which our Lord cometh".
The Lord's Return believed by the Apostolic Fathers:
They expected the return of the Lord in their day. They believed the time was imminent because their Lord had taught them to live in a watchful attitude.
And concerning the Ante-Nicene Fathers most of them:
By tradition they knew the faith of the Apostles. They taught the doctrine of the imminent return of the Lord.
So get out there my brothers and sisters and proclaim the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, (Yeshua Ha Mashiach), for time is short and the day is near.
Marana tha !!!
Come Lord Jesus, come, Amen...
If you are reading this after the Rapture find a Bible and read as it truly is your only hope. Start in the Gospel of John and then read Acts and the teaching Epistles. He is the only way and if you're brave enough to want to know the truth of what is to come read Revelation starting at Chapter 5 because that is all that is left to you of our Lord's as yet unfulfilled Prophetic Word. The first 4 chapters dealt with His Bride, His Church/Body made up of true believers, who are now and forever will be with Him. It will not be an easy road and you will loose your earthly life that is but a vapor compared to eternity. Give your life to and for Jesus so you can be with Him in paradise...
Romans 10:9 Say it, mean it, believe it and trust in Him.
He will save you even now no matter what you've done or not done unless you take the mark willingly. No matter what they threaten you with do not take the mark or worship the beast. Do not fear anything they can do to you in this life now but fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in Hell for eternity.
God Bless...
I read all of what you wrote. I looked up some of the passages. As a Christian, I am much less concerned with HOW GOD executes His plan than whether I fulfilled all those things He wanted me to achieve in this life.
Humankind wants to confine GOD to earthly standards, even translations of His words. This is a laugh to me. As Jesus pointed out, who can define the wind, but GOD Himself. And what if a particular day comes and goes? Humankind says, “Oops, got it wrong.”
Rather than calculate GOD’s last Day, how about remembering GOD’s forgotten people? Those alone or lonely? Those in despair? Those in seasons of grief or anguish over a loved one’s plight? Know GOD intimately by serving others and tell them you do this in the name of Jesus, your Savior. Then it will not matter which Day GOD chooses to be Thee Day!!!
@@stephensipe5405
So you read it and yet missed this:
So get out there my brothers and sisters and proclaim the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, (Yeshua Ha Mashiach), for time is short and the day is near.
Marana tha !!!
Come Lord Jesus, come, Amen...
AND where in my teaching on the Rapture did I give a date, day or hour ?
We are told to study His Word, the Bible and be ever watchful for He will come on a day and hour we do not know. We are also told in Scripture that Jesus Himself is the Word made flesh. We are told in His Word to know it and meditate on it, knowing times and seasons.
What do you think I'm doing in this comment but attempting to help others understand the Hope that dwells in me just as the Apostle Peter tells us to do.
I'm sorry you came away from the study, (which there's no way you did in this short time), without comfort and hope as that is the intended teaching. This is just one of my services to Him and His Church, my brothers and sisters in Christ.
You claim you read and yet missed that?
I GIVE ALL GLORY TO THE LORD, it is after all His Word I teach, not my own.
God Bless...
@@stephensipe5405 Oh and in case you missed it in His Word, the Bible, reading it, speaking it, praying it and teaching it are all forms of worship.
Edification and exhortation of the flock are also pleasing to the LORD our Savior Jesus the Christ...
@@PastorwithoutaPulpit Jesus asked Simon, the Peter/Rock, “Do you love me? Then feed my sheep.”
@@stephensipe5405
4074 Pétros (a masculine noun) - properly, a stone (pebble), such as a small rock found along a pathway.
4074 /Pétros ("small stone") then stands in contrast to 4073 /pétra ("cliff, boulder).
Thus Peter's statement of "you are the Christ, the Son of God" was the Petra.
Peter himself was the petros, the smaller stone that Christ would use to build His Church along with the rest of the Apostles.
Christ Himself was the Chief Cornerstone on which He would build His Church, Peter's statement, not Peter.
My calling is feeding His sheep by teaching and ministering to them in anyway I can.
Yet I'm not sure what your comment has to do with my first responses to you after your misguided refutation about my teaching on the Rapture?
I wonder if i would hear voices afyerbover 20 years in isolation maybe write a best seller too
I once tried to read the Quran and it did not make sense to me. I am amazed that Jay Smith was able to read and understand it coming from a non Islamic background. There was also a time I heard a disputation of the book in swahili and all the contradictions were clear to me in a language that is closer to me. I guess i need to read it now in swahili.
It doesn't matter what language it's in. It doesn't make any sense in any language.
Hi Mr mjrburn
With the greatest love and respect you, I did not use the word ".argue"
I said it was sad to see Christians disagreeing with each other. You unfortunately like you said to me read what I was saying wrong
The other comments I read were disagreeing or arguing with you.
I really enjoyed your comments, your knowledge and passion for Christ shines through.
I humbly apologise to you,.as it was in no way meant to hurt or attack your character, as I totally agree with you.
We as true Christians, those that fully realise the love God has for us, those that are now under Grace not law, should show that love and respect to all others.
We have all been given gifts or gift by Christ, and through the Holy Spirit only can we use those gifts effectively.
The only reason I hopefully think you agree with me is to help grow the body of Christ.
We are the righteous of God in Christ, always, even when we sin which we all do, what does Jesus say the two greatest commands, love Him with everything, love others, because love covers a multitude of sins, not every sin, but a multitude seems like a heck of a lot. I believe it's all the silly little sins we commit every day, some accidentally or some intentionally, but we are always the righteous of God in Christ.
I support you in every way, use the gifts God has given you, to help build the body of Christ.
Sometimes disagreeing can be good, God may open our eyes to a certain scripture or something we may be doing that is not Christ like.
Your right scripture says we will be attacked for our belief, keep up the work of Christ
All Glory to God
Show us the very first Koran then. Can't do then no argument.
There never was a very first Qur'an. Muslim expert Dr. Shady Nasser says that the Qur'an has ALWAYS been a pluriform text.
Can someone tell me the Quran Muslims have today, Is it the true copy of the original one in Heaven. If it is preserved by Allah?
Why not you read and compare between Quran and Bible...
Don't listen to the haters or media and even Me..
Hope you get the answers and satisfying....😊
No
Preserved in the mock heaven a religious deception a counterfiet religion that came from the devil
It has been rewritten and edited many times. So much so, that all the different versions were rounded up and destroyed, so they could try and say there was ever only 1 version. No book that denies Jesus is in heaven, but more likely it's in H*ll.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Once again invite you to bring absolute forensically verifiable evidence of a single human bone belonging to a being 27 meters (60 cubits ) tall, the stealing of abandoned Jewish fables, such as such massive giants, and many other stolen fables from several other cultures, prove your beliefs are a construct fabricated to control the minds of weak men.
20 odd years on his own in a cave and starts to hear voices that twll him to write a book and look for the youngest girl he can find to abuse
Glory to YHWH! Glory to the Father, Jesus Christ of Nazareth the Son & the Holy Spirit!☦️
@@defenderoftruth3212 Well, the islameic god system is a little hard to understand, so let's break it down.
There are first the three al Lahs
1. *al Lah#1* glued to his throne he cannot move
2. This *al Lah#2* is stuck in orbit around spherical earth inside his own creation *sahih albukhari 1145*
3. Another *al Lah#3* who is on earth showing his handsome divine shin to muslim men *sahih albukhari 4919*
But then... there are two other gods too, which are not Lah gods...
4. Flaming homosexual *mupedohammad is deified* by Lah#1 in *surah 4:80* and is now also god
5. The top god of islame is *satan god* which controls mupedohammad god and none of the Lahs can do anything to stop it *tafsir al jalaylayn **22:52*
@@defenderoftruth3212 The Father is YHWH, The Son who is the Angel of YHWH in the Old Testament before he was born as the man Jesus Christ of Nazareth is YHWH & the Holy Spirit is YHWH. All three are One Almighty God in Essence, Divinity and Nature but Three distinct persons.
@@defenderoftruth3212 No, that's a lie. The one who is running in the blood vessels of muslims is satan *Sahih al-Bukhari 7171*
al Lah of queer'an cannot enter into his own creation.
But I can agree with you, because there is a unity between al Lah and satan, since
*surah 3:54* al Lah admits that he is The best of deceivers, which is => The father of all lies, which again is => Satan
So we can agree that al Lah and satan is one. But here you enter the topic of the islameic trinity. Mupedohammad was deified by al Lah (who we now agree is satan), so mupedohammad is part of the al Lah satan unity.
Can you talk about the mubahala and Mohammad’s death in relation to it.
Why did Allah create the shroud of Turin to disprove himself?
😃 REDEMPTION of SINS Vs 😔 REDEMPTION of OATHS 😃BIBLE ( ORTHODOX / CATHOLIC / PROTESTANT ) versus 😔QURAN ( HISHAM / QALUN / AL DURI / WARSH / ,,, ETC )
Perhaps Mr. Paul Williams make open discussion with you
You should make a video about the Seven sleepers plagiarism and Jesus making birds out of clay taken from the infancy gospel of Thomas
So you think 1400 years ago a illiterate person decided to go study Judaism and Christianity and create the Quran by plagiarism.... What about the complete chapter on Mary in Quran. Do you have anything on Mary? 😂😂😂... Also do you have anything on the fact that baby Jesus talked like an adult?
This is why we say Quran is word of God. Not man made like the Bible. 💯☑️☑️☑️
@@0786AHA There’s nothing in the Quran that wasn’t in widespread circulation in oral form in the Arabian Peninsula at the time. Nothing in the Quran requires divine recitation or revelation so the book is fully human, not to say disjointed, repetitive, badgering, derivative etc.
@@joygibbons5482 I am saying it again. There is a complete narrative on Mary's life that's not in the Bible. This information is not known. It's not in the Bible or written any where.
If you have sources provide it. Don't make blank statements.
💯☑️☑️☑️
Why didnt Allah preserve the Torah and the Gospel
Jesus reigns forever.
@@defenderoftruth3212
1. According to islame - is Isa alive?
2. According to islame is mupedohammad alive?
3. Why did al Lah save isas life but he didn't care that mupedohammad died of posion * Sahih al-Bukhari 4428* ?
@@defenderoftruth3212 Are you saying that mupedohammad lied when he said he was poisoned? And he also died from that poison?
*Sunan Abi Dawud 4512*
@@AtheismPoisonsEverything 2 Corinthians 11:4
1 John 5:12
1 John 4:15
@@defenderoftruth3212 do you think Christians serve one of your islamic prophets? That is your imagination.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Thank you for your question friend. We serve the Son of God.
Contradictions in the bible - Jesus is the begotten son of God and at the same time He is begotten by Joseph. Why do call Him son of Mary if He is son of Joseph. And why do call him son of God?? Foolish book is Bible.
It lies. Big period.
islam is obviously the beast/babylon in revelation everyone study and you will see i promise...world will be so bad like unto noah before rapture judgement ...pray for the saints please!
Those who think Christianity as it is today is a true religion are in for a big surprise. Taking a Man to be the son of God or God or the idea of the Trinity are all based on ancient Mythology, mostly Greek. Most Christian rites come from Mithraism, such as the Eucharist. Before the Council of Nicaea what Christianity believes today was heretical. it's all ancient myths based on the ignorance of our forefathers.
Its total disaster
The Quwrong and Al-Lah are foolish😂😂😂😂😅😅
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quran ' this book made easy to recite. read and understand ' bible Jeremiah 8 8 ' scribes falsified the bible with their lying pens ' now then how are you still led astray ?
@@garybowings1538 again condense your posts mate you lost me at 'according to al Sarh ' give us something from quran. bible v quran is apples to apples. 99.9 percent of muslims have no Hadith/secondary books at home
It's Crazy talk
The Quran is definitely not fully true.
Preserved in the mock heaven a religious deception a counterfiet religion that came from the devil
Jesus who has the power of 1000's of 🌞 sun's
While Muhammad is in the center of the earth
Pick one 🤷♀️
Jesus upholds the universe by the power of his word. Eternal life through Jesus Christ is the blessed assurance John describes in 1 John 5:6-13.
All true believers Christ, who have been effectually called have been “sealed for the day of redemption” (Eph. 1:13-14),
“I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”
(Revelation 1:18)
Jesus was without sin, yet Momo's life was nothing BUT sin.
@@defenderoftruth3212 The whole context shows that verses actually claim the being you referred to in your misquote as being the source / Creator / eternal:
Revelation1:17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
This clearly appears to indicate power over even death and hell itself, something you cannot boast of, nor did Muhammad dare to even utter such.
Even as someone who does not make the boasts as you clearly and repeatedly do, as I just read sources from history and wonder what they pertain to, yet still I can see that the verses show a claim alleging to be from the very Creator as in ''Alpha / Omega the first and the last'' or Creation itself. Yet here you are perverting it, the book closes with a statement saying anyone who adds or takes away will suffer all the curses and plagues mentioned in the book, for someone as superstitious as you I thought I might warn you about tempting or mocking fate, especially if that fate really is a divine eternal being.
@@defenderoftruth3212 For someone so afraid of an alleged eternal hellfire, a concept taken from the Bible by the Quran you appear to be very self assured of a secondary source, sources clearly engaged in copying from Greeks, Persians, Zoroastrians, Manicheism, Babylonians, Nabataeans, Arab pagan folk tales, Mesopotamians, worshippers of Hubal, Jews, Gnostics, Christians and even throwing in phrases later, 150 - 300 years later from phrase of ancient China on the silk route.
Now simple logic absolutely dictates it is absolutely impossible for those earlier cultures to have copied from a later existent one, one that arrived almost 7 centuries after Christianity, so logic reveals the later source is copying, repeatedly, from multiple earlier sources, this act of copying, plagiarism is undisputable evidence of a system insecure, unoriginal and repackaging and remarketing old rope as new rope.
A lay person may fall for such, but a veteran sailor would notice the frayed rope weak in places and refuse to part with good coin for such an inferior product. Life depends on proof of claim.
@@defenderoftruth3212 So you're telling others that another person's dream is pure fantasy? You sound delusional, try backing off excessive pot smoking.
@@defenderoftruth3212All of Muhammad's prophecies failed the criteria to be declared prophetic. I can post multiple examples with clear explanations if you like, just ask.
Nice
Holy book from sky😂
@@defenderoftruth3212 you misjudged it, you completely ignored the laughing emoji at the end of my comment. It’s a bogus, fake, man made piece of s**t. Have fun
Alonzo Harris believes in three gods..... and he doesnt need the bible to know that...😊
Bullshit
@@Kumarapwmss1989
The truth is stranger than fiction....
Peace to you my friend
@@defenderoftruth3212
When you have a man (jesus) come down from heaven and judge for god than your religion totally false.......
I thought jesus was just a man.....
Only god can judge.....
@@defenderoftruth3212
Finally something we can agree on.....
Let take a look at this hadith....
Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
By Him in "Whose hand is my life", the son of Mary (ﷺ) will soon descend among you as a JUST JUDGE. He will break crosses, kill swine and abolish Jizya and the wealth will pour forth to such an extent that no one will accept it.
Sahih muslim 155a
Now according to the text Mu Hammad says jesus will come back as a JUST JUDGE.... so jesus is more just than the most just Allah....🤔👈
But I thought allah can only judge....😮
And the rabbit hole gets deeper...
Rip islam bye bye 👋
I challenge u to debate with dr.zakir naik
Ho ho ho, JOKER Naik.
@@defenderoftruth3212 , LOL!!! Sure. Just like Jay Smith "confided" that my left foot is a unicorn. Stop inventing your "facts" to suit your Islamic delusion.
The contradictions that were found in the holy bible, I believe that it is not possible for anyone after that to just think that this is what God wanted or what he said👇
the difference in the lineage of Christ? He was attributed to David, you also find to Joseph the carpenter, & also you find to the son of Heli
So,Given that, his lineage is uncertain
Luke 3:23
Joseph was the son of Heli
Matthew 1 16
and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.
There is a contradiction in the Bible about seeing God as coming in the form of a human👇
Genesis 32:30
30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[g] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
John 1:18
No one has ever seen God.
Even it said the idea of creating the idea of incarnation? The Bible considers the idea of an incarnate God to be logically unacceptable. God will be in the form of a human. God will lie or change his mind like a human.👇
Numbers 23:19
God is not human that he should be lied or son of man , that should change his mind.
So correct yourself, my Christian brother, and save yourself from it before it is too late. You will regret it when regret does not benefit you, and you wish you had heard my words and taken my advice.
Al - Farty ? Lol 😊
Is that the best you can do??? How old are you - 8, maybe? GROW UP.
♥️👍
*_Indeed, it is We who sent down the message [i.e., the Qur’ān], and indeed, We will be its guardian._*
_AL-QURAN 15:9_
*_Falsehood cannot approach it from before it or from behind it; [it is] a revelation from a [Lord who is] Wise and Praiseworthy._*
_AL-QURAN 41:42_
Pity Allah didn’t think to preserve the Torah and Injil eh?
Did he forget or fail to do so?
Still, third time lucky
@@joygibbons5482 *_Almighty Allah didn’t say in Holy Quran that he will preserve his previous scriptures_*
Tell me, O Muslim, if Allah promises to preserve his "eternal" words then why couldn't he preserve the Torah and Injeel? He is most impotent.
He only promised to preserve Quran. He asked man to preserve Torah and injeel. 💯☑️☑️☑️
@@defenderoftruth3212 you said "Allah" only promised to preserve the the Torah and Injeel during the time of Musa and Jesus? Why do Surah 5:46-47 and many other places command the people of the Injeel to judge by it? Quran implies that Allah has preserved Injeel and Torat. You just don't like what it says.
@@defenderoftruth3212 "demarcation line"? So what you call the "Torat" was sent only for the Children of Israel for "Musa's" time and the "Injeel" to the Children of Israel for "Isa's" time. Also Quran says the "Suhuf" for Ibrihim's people and a "Zabur" to "Daood" for his people. I assume these were sent in their own languages (Aramaic and Hebrew) as the Quran says in Surah 14:4 ("in their language of their own people to state clearly for them.")
Finally "MHMD" appears with "Quran" in Arabic for his own people.
Allah, you say, sends bits and pieces of his eternal scroll to different "prophets". You say these books were revealed to these prophets in their language for their time.
The Quran says in Surahs 5:65-66 and 45:28 that the Christians and Jews of MHMD's day will be judged according to their Holy Books.
Understanding these and more ayats I have already mentioned above:
WHY DO YOU, O MUSLIM, DARE TO SAY TO US CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW OUR INJEEL IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE THAT IT IS CORRUPT? QURAN WAS SENT TO YOU FOR THE ARAB PEOPLE IN THE ARAB TONGUE!
You commit shirk when you abrogated the clear teaching of Allah and LIE about the Injeel and other books being corrupted. Shame on you for telling us, who are not Arabs, to follow your Arabic Book!
Judge by your own book in Surahs 3:23,93; 5:43-45,47-48; 5:66,68; 7:170; 19:12!
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@@defenderoftruth3212 my original response was hidden by YT. Attempting to repost:
@defenderoftruth3212 "demarcation line"? So what you call the "Torat" was sent only for the Children of Israel for "Musa's" time and the "Injeel" to the Children of Israel for "Isa's" time. Also Quran says the "Suhuf" for Ibrihim's people and a "Zabur" to "Daood" for his people. I assume these were sent in their own languages (Aramaic and Hebrew) as the Quran says in Surah 14:4 ("in their language of their own people to state clearly for them.")
Finally "MHMD" appears with "Quran" in Arabic for his own people.
Allah, you say, sends bits and pieces of his eternal scroll to different "prophets". You say these books were revealed to these prophets in their language for their time.
The Quran says in Surahs 5:65-66 and 45:28 that the Christians and Jews of MHMD's day will be judged according to their Holy Books.
Understanding these and more ayats I have already mentioned above:
WHY DO YOU, O MUSLIM, DARE TO SAY TO US CHRISTIANS WHO FOLLOW OUR INJEEL IN OUR OWN LANGUAGE THAT IT IS CORRUPT? QURAN WAS SENT TO YOU FOR THE ARAB PEOPLE IN THE ARAB TONGUE!
You commit shirk when you abrogated the clear teaching of Allah and LIE about the Injeel and other books being corrupted. Shame on you for telling us, who are not Arabs, to follow your Arabic Book!
Judge by your own book in Surahs 3:23,93; 5:43-45,47-48; 5:66,68; 7:170; 19:12!
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#jewish
Why Jay scared to come on Hamzaden?
Those who say that Quran is not preserved are Islamophobia. LOL
Why are we still listening to this Dr Jay guy? I am not a very religious person, but if I were to seek religious guidance, I won't be seeking it from a man who has lost EVERY debate he ever engaged with every Muslim scholar. Surprisingly, there are still gullible who believe in him.
Get a life, people!! 😄
I have never seen a muslim win any debate ever.
@@Qingeaton
Search CZcams for Dr Jay's debate, with any Muslim scholars. There are literally hundreds of them, and he was beaten in every one of them.
I wondered if Allah himself is preserved from extinction?
@@defenderoftruth3212 Dear Defender of Truth. So, you are trying to say that Allah will remain forever and ever after the Day of Judgement with a reduced role of supervising the Hell and Heaven?
Wouldn’t he get bored watching people being boiled in oil on the one side, and men in bed surrounded be everlasting virgins?
Without Kamal Salibi’s 4 bible study books and blog this noise will continue. Shameless.
Huh?
@@mysotiras21 See/read his short blog for answers.
❤ humen make mistake humen a very bad manipulate 4 pover do do with bible❤God guides in❤
Huh?
Bible make by lots aft109y we can't find
Simple questions
Where Gospel from Jesus himself?
You have many gospel none of them Not accordding to Jesus himself
@@garybowings1538 search yourself how many gospel out there? How many changed already made
@@garybowings1538 then why you Don't understand your own scriptures?. Jesus never claim he was God...but peoples after his death was make claim...I argued with you in Good manner...never used insult words againts you
WHY are you changing the subject, troll??? Because you KNOW that Jay and Al Fadi are telling the TRUTH about the Qur'ans origins, and don't want to discuss that.
@@mysotiras21 I did not change The subjects. I just Wanna show you, you misunsdertant the verse
Christians Said God is One. But this verse Said there two God there?
Contemporary Issues: Is the Original Qur'an Preserved? - Dr. Joseph Lumbard...watch yourself....Don't trust Fadi and Jay Smith lies...
You refer to translated texts.
What does it say in Arabic? ?
You are experts in mis-interpretations.
WOE UNTO YOU.
😂 really? Thought there was something of substance here.
There is NOTHING of substance in Islam, that's for sure.
Yes may be that was mean on my part. From my experience, people who come here leave with their initial biases. All.i can say is for the sake of truth, I'd advise you to remove that biase for a micro second and remember the other person from the opposite side may have your conviction as well. We can learn nothing if we are not open minded. And I'll be fair and do the same. There's no benefit in hate. But so much to gain in genuineness questioning.
Now do the bible
@@garybowings1538The Bible starts with a myth and has had names added to the Gospels to make it look like they are eyewitness accounts. It supports slavery.
The Bible has been mercilessly examined for over 2 centuries now. It has withstood the scrutiny. Researchers have only just begun to analyze the Qur'an with the same level of objective skepticism, yet the Qur'an is already crumbling.
@@garybowings1538 i don't personally believe injeel is the gospel nor the tawrat to be the "torah"
@@mysotiras21 The Bible has in no way 'withstood scrutiny'. That is to ignore all of the scholarship that has and continues to eliminate how and when the Bible was really written, edited and compiled. We know that Genesis is a largely mythical book, for instance.
@@mustahdin-ibn-adam , WHO CARES what you believe??? You have ZERO evidence that the Torah and Gospel of today are different from those of the 7th century.
one truth that makes us super happy is that islam grows quickly and its enemies could not even recite quran perfectly islam the last and strongest religion>
It's very sorry to see what the Quran has done for these two, it is educating about the falsehood of their own faith what they believe in through the Quran itself. They know it from the bottom of their heart, and the more they start to run away from the Quran, the Quran keeps coming at them.
John moore was a hard core Christian that made intense critics about Quran, and when finally before his end he accepted Quran was a preserved book.
all it does for me is show me what a fraud the koran is and i own one one of the most boring and confusing book of all time and you believe that bull
YAWN. Never heard of John Moore. I can, however, cite HUNDREDS of educated Muslims who have become Christians. BTW, you don't have to dig very far to discover that the Qur'an is a JOKE. The Qur'an is a CESSPOOL of errors, evils, contradictions, absurdities, plagiarized materials, and general incoherence. Whoever wrote that asinine little book was simply less intelligent than toothpaste. If you claim that God wrote it, you are calling God an idiot. That's blasphemy.
Why do i didn't believed in bible's as the holy book, because amount of the book therein the bible variant are the same between each others , for example : that the protestant bible have 66 books, and catholic bible has 73 books, as for the orthodox bible has 78 books, even the ethiophians bible has 88 books, and is not that the bible was came from the same god !!!????
Every Christian church has the same base 66 book Bible. The extra 7 books that Catholics use for mass, the extra 12 in the Orthodox, and 22 in the Ethiopian, are known as the apocrypha in protestant denominations and are still studied. The extra new testament books are all known to date from after every book in the base 66 and are historical records of the early church. The couple of old testament books that are included, like Maccabees, are also just extra Jewish historical documents. None of them affect theology whatsoever, unlike the many changes of the Koran.
and because the koran was copied from the Bible and Torah, just imagine how wrong Momo got it since he couldn't read or write.
YAWN. there is only ONE Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek. By contrast, there are 37 DIFFERERNT Arabic versions of the Qur'an, with 93,000 variants between them. Many of those variants CONTRADICT each other.
Did "Dr" Jay Smith get bitten by snakes and scorpions recently, there is a video in my feed, of someone who looks a lot like Jay?
I just love how IDF is taking care of Abdooooooooools! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@user-rx2gf4nx9e At least I don't need Genocide for Jesus to return. Explain why Christian Zionists love Genocides during the Second World War.
There seems to be a theme between Christians and Genocide.
@@garybowings1538 Mark 16:17-18 says Jesus’ followers they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
I guess Jay is not a follower of Jesus (PBUH).
YAWN. Muslims will say ANYTHING to divert attention from the egregious flaws of Islam and the Qur'an.
@@AbdulEssa-kp4vf I'm so sad to hear that rabid dog mupedohammad died from the posison that aisha gave him *Sahih al-Bukhari 4428*