48th Live Stream with Carlton Pearson - T. D. Jakes and Tyler Perry
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- I saw the video which has gone viral, for reasons that seem curious to me. It actually wasn't the video of Tyler donating a million dollars, nor him summarily being caught up in the moment laying hands on the bishop. What concerns me most is the vitriolic comments bloggers who seem to have little else to do with their time than armchair refereeing of matters ecclesiastical, spouting out their misinterpreted scriptures to spew their unmerited vindictiveness against two men, clergy or layman, bishop or deacon, straight, gay, bi or tri (trying to have sex but can't), who as far as we can tell have either raised or spent millions of dollars to help possibly millions of people live better lives, or at least shift their consciousness towards resolving the lives they live more peacefully.
What's even more disturbing is that most of the negative and judgmental comments are from people who love to quote scripture to defend or support their critical positions. So-called atheists and agnostics rarely even bother to address such matters; just "believers," bible-toting and bible quoting "believers."
Some of these same people love Tyler's work and adore Madea, laugh at her jokes, the cussin' she gets by with, the lying, conniving, the making fun or sport of our religiosity, and the list goes on. Then he makes a large gift to another highly regarded African American bishop and people start protesting. If Tyler had done his "alms" in secret, he'd be accused of never helping his people. He does it openly and he's accused of bragging. Jesus did his miracles openly, from changing water to wine, to multiplying fish and loaves to feeding thousands of people. He noticed the widow's mite and made mention of it. Both he and the Apostle Paul were supported by wealthy women, Jesus having allowed a woman some perceive to be a prostitute to use perfume worth a year's wages, which she presumably earned through her trade, to anoint his feet from her Alabaster Box. All this is recorded in the same bible from which these people quote and shoot their bible bullets from their pious, religious AK-47s. I like to call them Bible Bazookas.
Again, it is this same group that decried Bishop Jakes for having Oprah -- who some call the largest New Age Guru on the planet -- at Megafest, which by the way was a very inclusive event, both this one and the one in ATL.
I am equally as intrigued to note that on OWN last Sunday, sometime after Super Soul Sunday, there was a program with a hypnotist who specialized in regression into past life experiences, while on either corner of the screen Tyler's new weekly series was being advertised, as well as T. D. Jakes appearing on Oprah's Life Class that very night. I both see and sense a shift in consciousness, attitudes and approaches to ways of relating faith to culture and remaining spiritually relevant in a changing world.
Both Tyler and T. D. are what is called Holy Ghost-filled Christians, who some would consider unequally yoked with "unbelievers," or at least those who believe differently from them. Joel Osteen, touted as the nation's pastor, and certainly one of its favorite ones, who has also appeared with Oprah a few times, would have to be placed in that category as well, at least by those who hold to such literal translations of scripture. I do not.
Carlton Pearson
In 1977, Pearson founded Higher Dimensions Ministries (now New Dimensions ), in Tulsa, which grew to over 5,000.
More recently, he has felt a passion to proclaim the "Gospel Of Inclusion" and has written a widely acclaimed book by that name, published by Simon and Schuster. It confronts the Christian church's exclusivism as being inconsistent, in spirit with the teachings of Jesus.
Bishop Pearson recently served as the Interim Senior Minister at Christ Universal Temple in Chicago. He and Gina now host New Dimensions of Chicago, building a local multi-cultural and radically Inclusive spiritual community that emphasizes expanded consciousness and Self Actualization. His newest book, God Is Not A Christian, Nor A Jew, Muslim, Hindu...God Dwells With Us, In Us, Around Us, As Us was published by Simon and Schuster and released in the spring of 2010.
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I was raised in COGIC, I have been blessed by the teachings of CDP in the past, and have grown to respect and revere him. I will not be disrespectful and say anything below my own teachings. That said, this is truly a departure from the Bishop Pearson to whom I grew up listening. However, I ask the Lord to give me an open mind to hear the reason I happened on this video. I don't live my life doing things haphazardly, so I know I'm here for a reason.
This speaking although not ground-breaking is a conversation which time has come. This conversation has been emergent for the past 30 years. What is more important, whatever your belief system, is to acknowledge source. More so the source of who and what we are. This goes beyond all belief systems. Don't transform a person's beliefs, transform the believer. Life does and will always work perfectly. The perfection of Carton Pearson's purpose will definitely be revealed. I am grateful for his courage and boldness to confront his beliefs and to give up his life as he knew it. In order to make a difference, it is necessary to destroy (complete) the past in order to create (newness) the future.
Its Great to see you teaching again! God Bless You
Once again...Thank you brother Pearson!! I love these live streams. Listening and watching from a village in the East of England, U.K
There is a lot of things being ran together here and scripture is being used to underpin this rant...I recommend caution prayer and tremendous study of the word of God if you choose to follow this teaching. I have no ill will towards this man or any other for that matter, but I am truly concerned with what I am hearing!
That from te spirit reaches the spirit,I just cannot wrap my mind around all these different religion & God knows I will not be moved by every wind of doctrine,GOD is not one of confusion,with that said,I am good.
He is suggesting that Christ was completely clear when or if He might die suggesting that if He has lived longer He would have purchased a house and even gotten married...what? There is simply no biblical notation for this type of conjecture.
Carlton, you are absolutely a beautiful soul!
I am so glad to see you in social media Bishop Pearson. I am very interested in your theological perspective. I would find it an honor to listen and to learn more of your revelations.
Here we go again with his long list of what he used to be.
That's not the "point" of his message
This is real talk from a real person. I love the balance that Bishop Pearson shares. The better we think the better we live and deal with others.
It's obvious this man is wrestling. Everything he says is not to you but to himself.
Well done and well presented.
Exactly!! Authentic Spiritual Insight!! 🏆
I am listening to your older videos. It is now 2019. I thank you for your message. I am going to listen to all of your older videos.
A few weeks ago You popped up in my memory and I began watching the live streams as well as some of the older videos and I must say I a captivated as I listen to what you share. What a journey you have been on! I confess I don't understand all you speak on but a great deal of it hits home. Thank you Carlton. I've asked others to view your talks and speaking events at All Souls Church.
Thanks Dorothy Drummond, I, too, watch and listen because what he says is "right on target". I love these Live Streams, cause you don't get this on a Sunday morning at your "so-called" church
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Preach Bro Carlton, "religion" stinks; that's why so many people are leaving these "phony" churches.
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. He is the only One that we need to listen to. Preachers are deceived now and trying to lead God's people astray, wolves in sheep's clothing. The Bible has warned us about them. I do have the right to speak and judge the works of darkness, the children of satan. We who have spiritual eyes and ears can see the deception clearly. Repent, Jesus is coming soon!
He didn't stand in protection of the woman caught in adultery the bible simply doesn't say that it says He knelt down then stood and said do your thing as long as you are not as guilty as she is then He returned to His seemingly disconcerted response.
Iset Amunet I certainly do appreciate sarcasm especially as a previous class clown lol I also recognize the appeal to emotion...good try this is certainly one that seems to work...but when it comes to scripture neither are appropriate methods for proper exegesis of scripture! See next post...
Iset Amunet John 8:6-9 NKJV
But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the ground with His finger, as though He did not hear. 7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first." 8 And again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9 Then those who heard it, being convicted by their conscience, went out one by one, beginning with the oldest even to the last.
As noted He responded as one who didn't care what THERE intentions were...she was actually in no danger He was see verse 6a...it was about Christ not the woman...it is believed by some she was likely common to them which is why they 'caught' her in the act!
Gabriel Matthews Interesting reply but not relevant. It amazes me how people assume that no one is familiar with Scripture on these CZcams channels.
Awesome
God bless
Listen to the 13 minute and unless I missed something he called Catholicism Christian, right? Haven't met to many Catholics in traditional Catholicism that call themselves that. Oh and I grew up in a largely Catholic city.
Not substantive. Catholics do, in fact, fit into a group known by the theologians as "Judeo-Christian". Splitting hairs.
Iset Amunet yeah about the Judeo-Christian thing research tells us this was a largely American term coined in the 1950s but as been around in theory for more than 100 yrs, which offered a title that was meant to suggest that Judaism and Christians shared many biblical ethics such as the 10 Commandments. It is not that those who were or are believers in Judaism believed in the divinity of Christ seeing Him as their Messiah...NO..it just meant that they found a place of civil agreement sharing the same history. When it comes to our faith and eternal life we must 'split the hairs' if need be!
Gabriel Matthews "It is not that those who were or are believers in Judaism believed in the divinity of Christ seeing Him as their Messiah". Your point? I disagree; it is not necessary to split hairs. What does your salvation have to do with another person using their CZcams channel to refer to Catholics under the Judeo-Christian umbrella? There is no substance in that at all other than "let me pick out something to have a problem with". Nicely placed exclamation points, by the way.
I was at a service where Bishop GE Patterson had the entire check to come and touch him as he sat in a chair. This was just a general offering.
thamks you bro carlton gby
Will the REAL MEN of GOD please come forward?! There Ain't None but Carlton Pearson. I'm not embracing this bit on Inclusion, yet, as I listen to Bishop on this stream, then I can understand where he is coming from. Nor am embracing "New Thought" but I believe in revelation. God has given us" ALL" powerful minds, yet tradition and religiosity has kept us from expanding our thinking to go beyond the boundaries that we have been so conditioned to believe. We stand and wait for someone else to tell us when to think and/or how to think (I got that from my twenty seven year old son. a saying he will often quote.). I say of myself that I am not a "scripture quote(r)" but a "scripture- thinker". Bishop, I now understand that God is using you at a very deeper level to bring the Church back to her first love. Not totally agreeing but I too, at times, think like this. Continue on your journey and I pray that the real TRUTH is revealed unto you.
Love It
And the Lord said, . . . "I never knew you. . ."
Great message.
Why not just get all the way out? Quit using Christian terms while bashing Christian faith? Balsam!
I'm sick of his long list of who he used to be.
The More You Become Like Jesus The Less You'll Look Like The Body ( Which Is The Church ) . The Church Today Look More Like The World Than The World It Self. Jesus Said In The Bible John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
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Come on, the Bible says "we're the church", the holy spirit lives in us, that building you going to can burn down any minute, but it won't "kill the church or the holy spirit" who lives in you or me.
The gifts and callings are without repentance. Still in the end; it's hoilness or hell.
Really??
Bishop Hell was created for Satan and his angels, who rebel against God. Now those who rebel against God will follow Satan to the same place Satan where him and the rebelling angels to Hell. It's your choice to follow or not follow. We choose who we want to married, we choose where we want to shop, what foods to eat etc...We shouldn't believe part of God word, we must believe it all. Weather we believe, or not that we're going to Hell, if we do wrong are not going to change the fact, that we will, if we don't be saved and live for God. Choose now there is no choice once you get there. You will spend eternity there. Satan never tell the whole truth, he tell parts, just as he did back in the Garden Eden. Bishop I am praying for you until God tell me to stop.
Do your research Mattie Williams.. The myth of Hell originated in non christian religions WAY BEFORE the time of Jesus. If you read something else besides the Bible you would know that.
This is her son speaking...I guess when we all die we will see if Hells a myth won't we? The Bible is the truth, the light and the only way, everything else is just man made and a pack of lies. Don't bother try to make me believe other wise cause I stick to what I believe in and that's that. Believe what you will its your life...but remember you only get one...live it wisely.
Mattie Williams As I said to your mother read something else besides the Bible or church sanctioned literature. I don't know what happens after death and neither do you. But because I don't know that does not mean that I'm going allow you or your church to force your beliefs down my throat. If you tell me that this book is THE TRUTH and THE WAY. I am not going to accept such claims by faith. I am going to research that claim. If I find that claim untrue, I am not going to allow you or your church to tell me otherwise unless they can answer the historical evidence I see.
Mattie Williams You are right and it is the people following this type of false doctrine who are leaning on the word of others and have not done their research. Francis Chan wrote a book in response to this heresy, if you want something more current to read about this( I haven't gotten a chance to read that one yet but his other books are awesome) also many others have refuted this A LONG time ago. It is an old false doctrine but Hell makes people uncomfortable so they would prefer to dismiss what God's Word actually says and satisfy what their itching ears want to hear. That's why they turn to other books than the Bible but still want to say they follow Jesus. But they follow a false Jesus that they made up in their minds that agrees with them all the time and never calls them to repent of sin. Keep strong brother.
Do your research the myth of hell existed before the time of Jesus. Dracula makes me uncomfortable also (I don't watch scary movies), should I start believing in vampires because they make me uncomfortable?
www.tentmaker.org/articles/did-god-create-hell.htm
When You Pray In Jesus Name , It Means You Come Before God The Father Endowed With The Spirit And Attributes Of His Son, Which Is Called The Christ. Thus When The Father See You He Sees You Clothe In The Spirit And Attributes Of The Son. Which He Created In His Image And Likeness. Be Blessed Son Of God, For He Has Given All Things Unto You.
What's sad is.. The "church" will start to accept him again...
I guess the "truth" really hurts, huh?
As You Become More Like Jesus, Beware ,The Preachers Will Try To Rebuke You Because They Don't Really Want You To Serve God, They Want You To Serve Them. God Forbid. That's Why The Preachers In The Bible Wanted To Kill Jesus Because He Would Not Follow And Serve Them , He Only Did What The Father Directed Him To Say And Do. GOD IS DOING A NEW THING NOW, ( Well It's Not Really New ) JUST LIKE HE DID IN THE BIBLE WHEN JESUS CAME ON THE SCENE .
i love it.
See this is why we shouldn't be kissing our men great words Carlton but you've been here a long time.
This man may be reprobate, he talks about this big shift in consciousness, but the Bible teaches a great falling away. You chose.
Let them get married, they'll try to change them laws, back! LMBO... he he he
Get to the main point sir