From Raw to Finished: A Siril v1.2.0 Tutorial for Beginner Astrophotographers
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This is my updated for Siril v1.2.0 beginners, start to finish tutorial on how to stack and process your astrophotography images. I'll also show you how to remove the stars from an image for better touch ups in Photoshop, and how to recombine them into a final image. Towards the end you'll also learn how to remove noise from the the photos using Topaz DeNoise.
Today I'll be working on the Crescent Nebula NGC6888 that was shot with my Celestron 8" EdgeHD using the Player One Poseidon-C dedicated astrophotography camera, through the Optolong L-Enhance filter.
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I'm using the Dwarf 2 and trying to follow this tutorial - Dwarf 2 only produces Fits - lights images? how would I run this script if I have no files in the darks/flats/biases folders? (i guess Dwarf does produce Dark Frames but the dark frames are used by telescope and produces the Fits without hot pixels)
I'm working on a Siril Processing video for the Dwarf. Stay tuned!@@camus83489
awesome perfect thankks!!!@@DeepSpaceAstro i think lots of people using dwarfs would love a walk through.
Not having much success. My folders were empty when I created them, and it seems to be complaining about them and telling me to copy the pictures into each one? You didn't mention that, that I heard. Should I have copied pictures there? If not, where? Where do the fits files go? I have .NEF files from my Nikon; was I supposed to do something before selecting the process directory (such as cropping them)?
This was an absolute life-saver for a total newbie (me). 3 hours of capture of the Triangulum....completely lost myself in processing...and following this gave me a result to share. THANK YOU!!!
That's great to hear! Thanks!
I speak for many people here. We really appreciate your time and effort creating such video on siril tutorials. Every single update and new features, extremely proactive❤ Wish I could do more than subscribing to your channel
So nice of you! Thanks for the support!
Hi.
For my own benefit I took notes on the crucial steps. Please delete or modify as appropriate.
Siril directions (without photoshop after color saturation)
1) Stack
2) Open stacked result file
3) Open to histogram view & use the mouse to select the cropped area and right click and choose crop (not mentioned: you can use Image processing-->geometry -->rotate&crop to free rotate).
4) Go to autostretch and use the background extractor option in autostretched mode. Use the dithering setting just to be sure.
5) Color correct: color calibration, photometric: find the DSO and select ok (make sure focal length and pixel size is correct)
6) Remove green noise, apply
7) Remove stars: star processing, starnet removal (select pre-stretch linear image, keep view in autostrech) and execute
8) Go to linear mode once stars are gone
9) Asinh transformation stretch until you start to see the details (maybe 50%, to make sure you are not clipping the blacks later)
10) Histogram transformation use and make sure not clipping the darks/shadows more than 0.1%. Start by moving the midtones to the left really far until you are okay with how the background looks. Then move the darks to the right until before you are clipping data. (not mentioned: My understanding is that steps 9 & 10 can be repeated a few times to bring out more data; I’ve done it successfully but not sure if would be the same to just do a more aggressive initial stretch).
11) Increase color saturation. Use global and if nebula try cyan. You can max it out and then do it again.
12) SAVE the image 32 bit FITS
13) Put stars back: star processing, star recomposition. Left side open the file you saved in step 12, right side open you removed star mask (starmask_result file) and adjust the stretch factor on the star layer until you are happy with the number of stars showing.
You are one of the few experts who goes slow enough and explains everything thoroughly. Thank you ,
Thanks for that! Glad to hear the videos have been helpful!
Thanks Rich - much appreciated. Your videos make life a whole lot easier.
Thank you! Glad to hear they've helped!
Great tutorial: the best I've seen so far. Well explained, detailed in all the basics... Just what I was looking for a long time ago. Thank you very much and I wish you luck and clear skies...!!
Thanks so much! Glad you found it helpful!
Excellent as always, Rich! You have helped me so much in getting started with my astrophotography journey! I can’t thank you enough!
I will be sending you a donation today! Thanks!
Thanks so much! Love hearing that it's been helpful!
By far best tutorial videos out there on processing. Thanks very much
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Good job Rich, you're doing the lords work, keep it up.
Haha. Thanks man!
Thank you so much for this! Looking forward to an intermediate/advanced tutorial!
You're welcome! I'm planning one. Just don't know when yet.
Just a GREAT video - Thank you so much. I've been struggle to pull an image out of my data and through following this has helped a great deal for my first 'real' image. Appreciate your time and effort. Thank you
Great to hear! Thank you!
I just used this workflow to produce my very first image. Thank you so much!
You're very welcome!
Your video is perfect for me. I purchased Topaz and that was a game changer. Now I'm going to dig through all my past imaging sessions and re-process them following your lead. Cheers!
Awesome! Glad it was helpful! Have fun!
This is a video I was looking for! I'm a newbie in processing and this is gonna help a lot! Thanks so much and clear skies! 👍🏻 ✨
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Great tutorial! I have been using PS exclusively to process my astro pics but tonight tried with Syril,PS and followed your tutorial and got a great result. Thanks for taking the time to go through the basics. Subbed!
Awesome! Glad it was helpful. Thanks!
Good job! We needed this since Starnet was incorporated. I often point people to the last video, now there's a shiny new one. Thanks!
Thank you and thanks for sharing!
Excellent tutorial! Night and day difference between my first attempt at stacking/processing and one following your workflow. Thank You!
That's so great to hear! Thanks!
This is the best channel on CZcams. Congrats on doing such a great job.
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much for your tutorial. You go over everything. So many other tutors will gloss over or leave out steps. My images are better because of your guidance.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
nice tutorial, i watched your video and took notes. this is a great help to someone who has never used astrophoto editors. thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant tutorial. I have been at it for a couple of months and I just realized how I was messing up a few things. Back to processing all those old sessions!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
man, you have made this newbie who was struggling very happy, thanks
Glad it helped! Thanks!
Incredible tutorial. Following this I got my best image so far, I am so thankful for the thoroughness and of how beginner friendly this was, I never used siril before but now I know its going to be my go-to software. Thank you!!!
Thanks! Happy it was helpful!
Fantastic, Rich. I'm a bit late to the game, but was overjoyed to find this video. I took many shots of the Great Orion Nebula and, frankly, I was discouraged with how the RAW files looked. I went through your process and was amazed at what a transformation took place. Thanks so much, and you have a new subscriber.
Thank you! Glad you found the video helpful, and welcome!
Just started using Siri and your videos have been a tremendous help!
Love your channel!
Great to hear! Thank you!
You may be the most capable person with these amazing tutorials regarding Siril on the internet. Great job! greetings from Egypt!
Thanks so much! Wow! Egypt!
Brilliant video, as a first time Siril user these guidelines got me a decent image from first light on an ASI585MC, mega grateful for this excellent workflow!
Glad it helped! Thanks!
Excellent video. Just the one I needed as a beginner, who's intimidated to start out with PixInsight.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow! Having never used Siril before, your instructions were really clear and my images look significantly better than they did with just DSS and photoshop. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this awesome video!
You're very welcome! Thanks!
Thank you. I have for weeks watching videos and still pulling out my hair. I thought I will look for someone new to listen to and I found you. I didn't know about downloading the Starnet. I will watch it again and I thank you for respectfully treating a beginner as a beginner. I have taken notes as you spoke.
Happy to hear that you found the videos helpful! Thanks!
Awesome tutorial, full of information to get me started and the results are amazing. Thank you, sir.
Thank you and you're welcome!
Thank you so much for this tutorial video it has helped my image processing really appreciate all the effort you have put into it for a beginner like me
You're very welcome! Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Absolutely brilliant Rich. Great workflow, easy and straightforward to follow especially now Starnet has been integrated. I was hoping you would put together all your new Siril 1.20 videos. I've saved them all, but this will allow me to work faster, especially the Photoshop section as I was struggling to get the colours I like in Siril.
Thanks so much! Glad they are helpful!
Thank you for a great step by step tutorial 10/10. Just finished my first whirlpool galaxy edit taken by vespera pro. love the results!
Great to hear! Thank you!
Great video, Rich! I’ve started using Siril recently and I am loving it. I was actually watching this as I was going to attempt to edit a complete photo inside Siril for the first time. What’s funny, is my image is the Crescent Nebula, and I had 8.8 hours as well! That’s pretty crazy! Great video, and I’ve subscribed!
Thanks! The planets have aligned! 🤣
This is my go-to tutorial when using Siril. Many thanks Rich. :)
Happy to hear that you found the videos helpful! Thanks!
This was great!!! Thanks for walking through what has been scarry for while.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful for you!
Absolutely brilliant! Just what was needed. Thanks!
Glad it helped! Thanks!
Wow Rich, first you solve my issue of why the files wont process in Siril (it was one file in Bin 3) then i spent tonight going through this and i am so impressed with your tutorial. I'm pretty new to this and almost gave up, then the ASI Air and AM5 and Askar 65PHQ gave me my first Astro image. Well now i have a workflow to use an processed my image of M31 tonight. I will be a devoted follower after just seeing this one tutorial..THANKS!!!!!! Danny
Glad I could help! Sounds like you have some nice gear over there! Thanks!
Thank you, lots to play around with and, as a beginner, get a flow to my processing. Much appreciated 👍
You're welcome! Happy to hear it was useful.
Amazing! Thank you so much, you really were the best help I could find on learning how to use Siril. Thank you so much, I really appreciate you!
Happy to help and glad you found it useful! Thanks
Rich, I was hoping you would update for this. Absolutely wonderful. Thank you so much.
You're very welcome! Thank you!
@@DeepSpaceAstro hi, i tried to download this on my Windows 64 bit but it had a warning pop up that says "Your connection is not private". What should I do?
Thank you! Didn't even know Siril exists, this has exponentially made my images better!
You're welcome! It really is a great program!
Absolute best tutorial I have come across!!!
Thanks so much!
A great recap of most of the basic stuff you’ve covered these last few months Rich. 6 months ago I’d never used Siril but since then I’ve learned a lot. Whilst I use most of your tutorial, there are parts of it that I do differently but that is just preferred choice. I tend to recombine the star mask and the starless images in PS more out of habit. Thank you so much for what you’ve taught me. You’re a great presenter!
Thanks for the great comment! There's no one right way to do anything in this hobby. As you know there are many ways to do just about everything in this hobby.
@@DeepSpaceAstro you’re so right about that!!
Thanks for this video. I VERY recently picked up on Siril and this video was a great step by step guide. The results I got on an old processing of NGC6888 turned out better than my original pre-process using APP. I did "like" this video and subscribed and will be checking more of your videos. You DID teach an "old dog" new tricks. Thanks!
Great to hear! Thanks so much!
@@DeepSpaceAstroI just wanted you to know I used your tips again to reprocess my image of the Rosette Nebula (NGC 2244) and WOW! what an improvement over my original processing. I see my near future is to go back over many of my old images and reprocess them using your Siril techniques. Again, many thanks for your tips. I have a question though; with photoshop you can move an image around when it fills more than a full screen using the sliders on the sides of the image. I see you moving your image around. How are you doing that? Also, can you zoom in and out without using the + and - icons at the bottom of the screen? Anyway, thanks again!
This! This is my new workflow. I have APP and Photoshop and produced what I thought were good results. This software kicks that workflow out of the bathtub! This is brilliant - it's reliant on good data - it is a Garbage In Garbage Out software, it doesn't hold punches but if you have good data, stick it in here and woah! I keep coming back to this tutorial, I almost have it to memory, but your workflow is excellent! Thanks!!
Thanks so much! Happy to hear it was helpful!
So thankful for these videos. Thank you so much!
You're welcome and thank you!
Siril has a steep learning curve. This tutorial allowed me to work through my first stacked image. I have a lot more to learn, but this was a great way to get started.
Glad it helped a bit! Thanks
Thanks for the killer videos. You really help demystify Siril for me.
Glad to hear that ! Thanks!
Thank you for the lesson! You are the best teacher!
Thank you. Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this grate intro to Siril.
You're welcome! Thanks!
Awesome tutorial - I just picked up a new camera after not having one for years. Interested in trying out some astrophotography, so this was great!! Subbed as well 👍
Thanks! Good luck and have fun!
Thanks for the video very detailed about how to download and add it to siril.I watched several videos before yours and couldn’t figure it out. My computer skills are pretty bad do to permanent concussion syndrome. Thanks again.
You're welcome. Glad it was helpful.
Perfecft video, hope to see more in the future for beginners!
I have lots of videos for Siril if you haven't seen them yet. Thanks!
AWESOME tutorial 🙏🙏🙏
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
Excellent tutorial! Thank you very much.
You're very welcome! Glad it helped! Thanks!
Thank you for a very easy to follow tutorial!!
Glad it was helpful. Thanks!
Great tutorial! Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Outstanding! Thank you!
You're very welcome! Thanks!
Thanks a bunch for this. Amazing tutorial!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
I just loaded version 1.2.1 today (4/22/2024) so there will be a few new things or fixed bugs. Great tutorial, it makes me glad I chose this to process my AP images. I'm a rank beginner and most of it made sense, so with time I hope to figure out the rest.
Good to hear! Thank you!
I do not normally comment on videos but as a person somewhat new to astrophotography this helped me immensely in editing a nebulae. keep up the good work!!!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
i actually took notes on this video and have a numbered outline. and now when i mage process, i follow the step by step guide :D@@DeepSpaceAstro
Wow dude this is the best tutorial ever. I'm going back to my veil nebula tonight
Thanks man! Good luck with it!
Very informative video, many thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Great tutorial thanks!!!!
You're welcome, and thank you!
Hi @DeepSpaceAstro. Loved the step by step tutorial. Hand-holding in the beginning is one of the most crucial aspect of training someone that has no prior experience on the subject. And you have done so beautifully in this video.
If it is not too much trouble, could you also link in sample flats, bias, lights, darks so that we can follow along with you ?
I'm not sure where i could get my hands on them.
Thank you 😊
Thanks glad it was helpful. That's allot of files so unfortunately I can't accommodate. Sorry
Just what I needed 👍
Awesome! Glad it was helpful!
Managed photometric colour calibration for the first time ever thanks to this video
Great to hear! Thanks!
@@DeepSpaceAstro and starnet.
And roads, sanitation education ;)
Thanks Again! I've fought with the star recomposition using .tif files, so it was nice to see how to do that properly, though I like doing it in PS better as it gives me more control on "prettying up" each separately.
Glad it helped and thank you!
Thank you very much. This is the best video about getting started with Siril that I have found. I just stacked and processed my first Siril-edited image. Much easier, more powerful and Mac-friendly than the DSS and PS method.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
@@DeepSpaceAstro Sir, my first use of Siril was done without Starnet. Now I am attempting to install it into Siril on my MacBook Air, (M1 chip), carefully following your instructions, but when attempting to set the location of the starnet++ file, am hit with this error message:"You do not have permissiont to execute this file......etc " Any suggestions on how to solve this?
I'm not a Mac user, but I'm pretty sure you need to follow the tip here in the documentation: siril.readthedocs.io/en/stable/processing/stars/starnet.html
@@DeepSpaceAstro Hallelujah!! It worked like a charm. Thank you so very very much!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for a great video. Really helped me feel calm about starting processing. Question though - I’ll be using TIF file from a Vespera so will already be stacked. Will this matter and do I still start your tutorial at the beginning?
This video is so helpful and I thank you for the effort to make it :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Just 'bought you a coffee'@@DeepSpaceAstro
Thanks so much!@@richardgifford3456
Thanks so much for this
You're very welcome!
Great Rich!
Thank you!
Thanks for the tutorial it really helped! Easy to follow an understand of a subject that is in no way straight forward or intuitive. I just keep rewatching your video and taking notes until I can remember the process. I did one of the orion nebula last night, shot with my sv503 80 and a Nikon D800e. I had 140 subs at 15 seconds and it took 26 minutes to process and stack. I have Ryzen 5 5600 32G ram and a AMD Radeon RX6600. Im guessing thats its because the D800e has a 36mp full frame sensor? I was very pleased with my results, thanks to your help! Cheers!
It's probably just the number of images you have. The more subs, the longer it can take. If you can take longer, but less subs, it should move faster. Thanks!
Thank you Rich, awesome tutorial.
Just a suggestion and a request if it’s possible.
Wouldn’t it be better to remove the stars first and then deal with the background extraction. In such case we do not have to worry whether the squares fall on top of bright stars?
Any chance you can do sometime in the future a tutorial similar to this but for images taken with monochrome cameras? This will be much appreciated.
Background extraction should be done before stretching, and since the star removal process does that pre-stretch you're no longer linear. Maybe some day I'll put one together for mono, but I only have a OSC right now. Haven't stepped into that area yet
Thank you soooo much!!!
You're welcome!
Thanks Rich!
You're welcome!
I also do a high pass filter in photoshop (just a few pixels) and set it soft light. it does wonders for details in nebulosity!
Great tip! Thanks!
@@DeepSpaceAstro thank you! your videos really helped me a lot with processing my photo of NGC 7000 tonight.
Glad they helped!
Brilliant, I'm now officially a Siril convert
Awesome and welcome to the cool kids club! 😉
Great video! Love it and thanks for helping me with using Siril. One question: during my imaging session with my astromodded DSLR, I only took lights and darks. Is there a Siril script that can help me process with darks and lights but NOT with biases and flats? I looked into the scripts download but did not find any. Is it because it does not make sense mathematically? But how does DSS do it with just darks and lights? Thanks!
Thanks! Check out my video on stacking without calibration frames. czcams.com/video/EvMZox2dlZA/video.html
Superb!!!! Ultra Helpful!!!
Thanks!
@@DeepSpaceAstro any Idea, why the Starnetastro website is not reachable?!?!
No idea, sorry. This happened a few weeks back as well. I think he's been working on refreshing the site.
Nice video Rich. I don't use Siril but it was interesting to watch. CS!
Thanks!
Thank you Rich , this was very good . Time for me to write myself another Workflow Doc . Cheers ./SRK
Thanks!
I appreciate all the effort you've put into these videos! They have helped me a lot. I'm trying to figure out PSF registration for an entire sequence. I understand, perhaps wrongly, that you can do a PSF profile on your reference frame and that can be applied to a registration sequence. Do you know how to do that?
Thanks! Glad to hear they've been helpful! If I'm understanding your ask, this video may help: czcams.com/video/jwBLVT3Ecas/video.html
Thanks!
And thank you!
Great tutorial! Thank you for doing this. I should make a tutorial on how to make the command line version of StarNet work on an M2 Mac. It's quite a hassle.
Thanks! That would be helpful to all the Mac users out there.
Really enjoy your channel and this vid. Thank you very much for all of your hard work. Newbies like myself really benefit from this. Do you have any tutorials on post-processing the Crescent Nebula etc in Photoshop? If not, can you suggest anything/anyone? Thank you!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. Outside what I show towards the end of the video, that's it, and that's also not just for the Crescent. You can use the same workflow for any object.
@@DeepSpaceAstro Thank you for the response! I am brand new to processing, so I really appreciate the advice. Thanks again.
Thanks Rich. I'm absolutely new to all of this and started looking at 1.2.0 right away. Your numerous videos are great, but sometimes it seems a little overwhelming with all of the things you can do and in what order makes sense to do them in. Have you considered creating a flow in document form to follow so we can follow and then look up the video that goes into more detail in how to use the software's functions to do it.
Rich. I also forgot to say I do not have Photoshop as it's a but expensive to subscribe to as a rank beginner. Maybe when understand photo manipulation better some day.
Please forgive my spelling and grammar. Fast fingers, slow mind today it seems.
I haven't consider that, no. The videos outside of the start to finish one all should mention where roughly in the process they can be used. Experiment and have fun, there's no one way to do most things in the hobby.
Great job!! Thanks for the tutorial.One thing about asinh, I’ve read that you should not go over 100 when stretching. Have you tried to limit it?
Thanks! With any type of stretching I generally go a little bit at a time.
Thank you for these Siril tutorials. I was about to give up on it because I thought it was a low level processoing SW and was thinking about forking $$ for Pixinsight.
Thanks again for showing that Siril can be a powerful Astro tool.
Incidentally, any chance of putting a few GIMP tutorials together so I can save on buying Photoshop.
I know…I’m a cheapo.🤓
Great to hear they helped you out. I haven't used gimp on awhile but I'll keep it mind for a possible future video.
Thank you for your tutorials, a Pixinsight it is too difficult to use for me even though I an astronomer. Are you using the Siril and Affinity combo for post-processing? If yes, do you think this connection will be sufficient for good post-processing of astrophotos?
Thanks! I use Photoshop in post, never tried Affinity but there are some that do.
Hi Rich, about Starnet processing time, did you already or do you think to do in next vide a tutorial how to activate the CUDA funcionality fo nVidia graphic accelerator?
Thank again for your videos
Roberto
I haven't considered it. Maybe down the road.
Thanks again, I have to keep reffering to this video as by the time the next clear skies come along here in Wales I've forgotten how to do it all, seriously we've only had two or three clear Moonless nights in the last six months, very frustrating.
Clouds suck! 🤣 Hope you see clear skies soon!
Really great tutorial! Hey, I am noticing that when I do star recomposition, many stars are already showing even before I use the slider? I use GIMP for touch up work instead for Photoshop. I wonder if this has anything to do with it? Keep it up, Rich!
That's normal. Thanks!
I have been shooting pro photography and videography for many years and absolutely adore Siril. All it needs is a way to stitch multiple images together and a more refined method for cleaning up luminance and color noise. But what it gives now is incredible.
What do you mean by stitching photos? Are you talking about placing specific photos in the color channels?
I think he means handling panoramas.
If u r talking about stacking then i think that feature is already available 😊
Great turorial.
After saving a final tif, tiff, astro tiff, icc profile, no icc profile, 16 bit, 32 bit, etc, etc....
I open the tiff file in Photoshop to make a few final tweaks...looks nothing like the saved image preview from siril. I can open a saved jpeg no prob but that kinda defeats the purpose...
Gotta be a color profile thing but havent found a solution yet. Appreciate any workarounds and your time.
Assuming you are in Linear view when saving, make sure the top slider below the image is all the way to the right.
in Photoshop .... View / Proof Setup / Internet Standard sRGB .... looks correct
THANKS for the quick reply...
I mean in Siril
Rich, another question. Last night, I imaged the Gamma Cygnus Nebula. For the background extraction step, I wasn't sure where to put the grid points since nearly the entire image was over nebula. I ended up cranking the grid tolerance to the max, and it did a pretty good job. Would you have suggested something different? TIA.
If it removed the gradients, then you should be ok. In those situations I usually use the RBF method and place the sample points myself. With RBF, you don't need a lot of them. I have a video that goes a little deeper into BGE czcams.com/video/Dcd9SOljMk0/video.html. You can also try GraXpert which now has an AI BGE function that does a pretty good job. Here's the video for that. czcams.com/video/OmHBvWwU6zE/video.html