Burning Crusade DPS Showdown! Enhancement vs Elemental Shaman
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- Today it's a battle of the elements! The Enhancement Shaman is going head to head with the Elemental Shaman. Which spec will come out on top in the showdown arena? Only one way to find out!
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You should stack rank the previous tested classes in a horizontal bar chart. That way, we can see the dps of mage/lock/shaman/etc. as these videos progress
Good idea! I'll try to add that in the next showdown :)
Some things I noticed:
1) enh didn't seem to have blessing of might and battleshout, that's a lot of ap missing
2) The blacksmithing hammers were unique to my knowledge (or restricted to mainhand, or both)
3) the enh tier sets badly itemised for enhancement shamans, since we do not have mana issues in tbc due to Shamanistic Rage, therefor all mp4/int and even spirit is wasted item budged (exceptions being the t6 bracers/belt/boots from swp)
High prio goes to expertise + yellow hit cap > strenght > ap > hit > crit, and agility, dunno where armor pen sat, but I imagine rather highly, since spell and melee hit/crit/haste weren't merged yet, so spelldmg wasn't that high on dmg percentage.
As a rule of thumb, enhancement wears leather as BiS, with some exceptions (mail pieces that forgo int or stam).
I dont know what amulet/rings/trinkets/bracers/cape/relic you used, so I recreated a tbc BT enh BiS setup as best as I could from memory (impossible to find a good tbc database).
-Cursed Vision of Sargeras (head)
-Choker of Endless Nightmares (amulet)
-Mantle of Darkness/Shoulderpads of the stranger(if weapon skill => expertise) (shoulder)
-Shadowmoon Destroyer's Cape (back)
-Midnight Chestguard (chest)
-Bindings of Lightning Reflexes (wrist)
-Fists of Mukoa/Gauntlets of Rapidity (hands)
-Belt of One-Hundred Deaths (waist)
-Bow-Stitched Leggings (legs)
-Shadowmaster's Boots (feet)
- Stormrage Signet Ring (finger 1)
-Angelista's Revenge (figner 2)
-Madness of the Betrayer (trinket 1)
-Dragonspine Trophy (trinket 2)
-Rising Tide (main hand)
-Syphon of the Nathrezim (offhand)
-Stonebreaker's Totem (relic)
Would it be possible to retry this experiment with this gear and the aforementioned missing raid buffs? I really want to know where enh stands as I mained it in tbc and would like to know if there's any hope.
wow that's very insightful, thanks
Not too mention ele sham will go oom a LOT quicker then enh sham
I would roll 2x syphons if arena S4 or swp badge rewards aren’t available. Maybe rising tide if you’re orc.
@@ringlol The gear setup I recommened was for BT, which means no S4 or swp badge stuff. Rising tide is unique, so no more than one. You can put it in offhand though and pair it with the mh fist from the weapon set from hyjal.
@@MrOrmanley yes, hence 2x Syphon because better SS damage(unless you’re orc). S3 is available and also better than all of the above.
As an Ele Sham main in Classic, I’m further excited for TBC with videos like this. -Kinjospyke, Fairbanks
Im going to reroll from shadow preist to ele Shaman do u know if gear will transfer over from classic to TBC ?
you are forgetting a HUGE part of DPS, which is mana sustainability. Elemental has higher DPS, but look how much mana you burning man. The test should consist in a raid boss fight length.
I mean, he does admit its obviously not 100% accurate. There are things to take into consideration like sustainability as you said, as well as being hit (which hurts the casting), the fire totem being out of range for ele, etc etc. Even so, for a rough comparisson I think it gives a reasonable estimate.
yeah and raidbuffs/debuffs
He's even burning Chain Lightning on cooldown vs single target. He'd go oom insanely quick with that rotation on a boss fight.
If we're doing multiple specs in the same class, Feral Cat DPS vs Balance seems an obvious addition to me.
Feral cat crushes balance at every point of TBC. No need for a video.
Balances strength lies in its support abilities.
Plus there's no way Hamsterwheel knows how to itemize Feral cat and powershift perfectly lol
hey Hamster, Love these videos, but something I wanted to point out that has caused a misunderstanding in all your TBC videos is that while ranged casters/hunters do more raw dps, these are when standing still. In TBC there are less fights than in Vanilla where you can just stand and chain cast, this means that the gap between a good melee and a good caster will be smaller because the melee can do almost 100% of their dps while handling mechanics, while casters will lose dps uptime by having to move around.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
You're absolutely correct! I wish I could simulate an actual raid environment, but for now this is the best I could do. Movement in some fights is super crucial and some classes loose more dps than others, hence why everyone should always take this dps showdowns with a little grain of salt :)
Pretty sure t4 content and to some part t5 content favors ranged over melee.
By the same token melee is absolute trash until t5 because so many fights are so rough on melee that you want as few as possible because not only are they liabilities to keep alive but their dps is trash compared to almost all other ranged dps. Thats from heroics to t5, quite a while in server progression.
Your argument is completely false, there's so much more melee unfriendly mechanics than there are "ranged need to stop casting" mechanics.
@@axl4394 agreed 100 hundred percent
Just looking at round 3, u have geared the enhancement so wrong... unfair kek
Really like these showdowns! They are very informative, thanks!
Ret Paladin vs Arms Warrior!
Yes!
Interesting
Ret gonna get destroyed
@@joshuabrunet4096 Arms is pretty garbage too, we might be surprised :D
@@Margoshi saw some raiding as arms... /shrug
More than dps Paladins
As someone who played enh during tbc 90% of my gear was leather from rogues as mail gear wasn't itemized properly. Let alone sets weren't all that great
I was really surprised to see him use full tier sets on enha. They are all trash.
Didn't get very far on my enh shaman in TBC, but I was relying on druid leather gear. Because back then, agility gave you 1 ap whereas strength gave you 2 ap. Or 2.2 was it? Anyway, there was some crafted sweet bear druid leather gear that had str + agi stats.
Depends on what you can get. Ebon Netherscale set is considered to be preraid bis according to multiple guides, and that's mail gear. Storm Helm BoE from blacksmithing, also mail. Windstrike Gloves from leatherworking, also mail. Desolation set was also pretty good with 2 set providing extra hit and 4 set giving you basically a free ap trinket on proc.
@@nikola4107 Never used full tier sets apart from tier 6, and the reason I'm using it because the gear level is called tier 6. I could use separate pieces on the ele shammy as well for a few items slots that would probably be better, but then it's not just 'tier 6' anymore, it's just 'tier 6 best in slot'. That's why I specifically made that destinction.
@@HamsterWheelGaming All tier gear was trash for enhancement I played Enhancement in BC too. None of the mail gear was ever worth while especially in Mount Hyjal/Black Temple/SWP. This isnt even sort of fair.
I used 99% rogue gear.
Also I notice you're not keeping your fire totem up all through the fight as enhancement which is a dps loss also.
But what about the additional DPS that is gained through their buffs to the raid? I wished this was taken into account. For example, how much additional DPS is added to the raid with an elemental shaman in a group with 4 warlocks (or 3, because they'd probably have a shadow priest in their group) VS the additional DPS that is gained from an enhancement shaman in a group with 4 hunters? Obviously, we can play with the group composition they're in, I'm just assuming these would be the groups that benefit the most from their buffs.
Put an Enhancement shaman in a group with two warriors, a ret pala, and a rogue. That Windfury totem can be quite magical.
Amazing compare that i truely needed. Thanks alot mate
Fury Warrior vs Rogue i for one would like to see how they compare in all stages of TBC thanks HW
Fury and rogue will be competing for first spot on bench, gonna be epic
@@lolwhatever7307 ahah true
You both have obviously never raided SWP.
@@andreaslechler4698 its literally 1/5 of the game or even less. And still only one spot for each melee, except KJ fight
Both bad
Enhancement shamans are equal to ele shamans in bt t6 and even stronger in swp t6. Enha dont play with the 4t6 bonus pre swp. Its pretty obvious that hammy doesnt have a lot of in depth knowledge here. Not even 1,4k in t6 gear is more than just weird.
Also the enha has no might buff (220 ap) and there is no sv ap debuff (easy 250+ ap in t6) or a slam warrior debuff (+4% physical dmg) on the target. In practice you are either in the hunter grp which gives you 6-9% additional dmg, dependig if there are 2 or 3 bms in grp; or you are in the melee grp, where you will get an ap buff from a warrior (up to 470 ap) and 3%crit + 2% dmg from a ret pala. All those things are missing. Those are huge factors, that you dont show at all.
Its a nice little rundown but far from realistic. Thats for sure. If you add just the biggest of those buffs/debuffs, the dps numbers are ~equal between those 2 speccs.
But he kinda explains it in the end tbh.
Well I don't know what you wanted me to do in regards to dps. There are obviously one or two buffs missing, but there are too for the casters. Not to mention the rotation of the enh shaman, I looked up multiple guides of how to dps and they all described the same rotation, which I followed to a tee in this video. I can try to add those buffs however for future dps showdowns if my own private servers will allow those to be applied. Not a programmer myself nor have I ever developed anything private server related so it was already challenging enough for me to set things up. In regards to the items, they're not supposed to be best in slot or anything...apart from preraid which I specifically say is best in slot. The rest is just in tier gear. If I took out pieces for better ones it would get even more complicated and these tests are already very time consuming for me to make.
@@HamsterWheelGaming Yeah but if you wont do it correctly don't do it at all.
Just stay to the things you are comfortable to pull of correctly before people interpret these things in a bad way.
I bet most people will just think Ele is flat out better than Enh after that video, not only by dps but also because of range.
@@HamsterWheelGaming pretty much what @Skull Candy said. Short example: Tips Outs "Class Deep Dives". He grabbed experienced players and interviewed them as he doesnt have enough knowledge of all classes but wants to do his stuff properly. You could have done basicly smth similar. Imagine trying to contact "Rippy" or another good TBC enha shaman (which you could easy find via "LegacyPlayers.com" for example) and talk about the important stuff. Same for ele of course. You dont have to copy Tips content, but you could have gotten rly good infos, mention the person @ the end of the video and thats it. (just an example)
The thing is, melees scale way stronger with buffs than many casters (especially eles dont scale that well into very late game) and the ele got almost all of his important buffs. Melees just have much more neccessary buffs/debuff to play around with.
Another problem is the gear. You say its not ment to be completely bis, which is fine ofc. But the ele scales way better here, as he got his big t6 bonus and t6 is his bis set. The enha also got his t6 bonus but this one is not worth it, as you got better items for enhancement in every single
slot. So you show an ele with close to bis gear vs a enhancement shaman with suboptimal gear. Which causes a dps difference on its own already. I hope you get my point.
Rly appreciate your long answer and trying to give constructive critisism.
Btw, not directly topic related: i can already tell, if you do a similar rundown for druids (with the same conditions as here) its most likely that the balance druid will win although the feral should mob the floor with it.
@@SkullcandyEdit How about no. I do these mostly because they're fun and entertaining and I lt people know very clearly that these are to be taken with a grain of salt. If I won't do them correctly...so like what, simulate a perfect raiding environment? That makes absolutly 0 sense because it's impossible to do that just on my own private server. People can obviously see the premise, and they can clearly see that this is not a super accurate simulation because there's no boss in tbc that's permastunned where you have to pay 0 attention to tactics. I think you need to think a little more highly of people who watch this, I really don't think they'll look at my own simulation with a few random gear levels where I'm perma-stunning a boss and say 'see elemental is way better!' when obviously in an actual raiding environment you might wear different gear and you have to take tactics into consideration. Like I said multiple times before I always tell people to take it with a grain of salt, and I don't flat-out say 'elemental shamans are better!', I say the elemental shaman has won in this particular test.
@@andreaslechler4698 I appreciate that, and it's something I can take into consideration for next videos. I'll try to get a hold of people who are very experienced and check out the site.
I'm curious as to which group in the raid would do better. A melee group with an enhancement shaman or a caster group with an elemental shaman.
no AP buff from war/pal to the enhancement buff list, pls...
at T6 you dont use t6 as a enhancer. and elemental should use zhar doom.
I know, in best in slot situation you'd probably use different armor pieces, but so does an ele shammy in some slots. That's why that gear level is specifically called 'tier 6' and why gear level 2 is called 'preraid bis', cause that's a gear set where I actually do focus on what's best in slot.
@@HamsterWheelGaming Yeah but that doesnt say anything because no one uses that.
Thats like comparing AP vs SP Rogues
Hey Hamster, Im planning to play elememtal through TBC PVE but ive seen lots of comments ppl saying they get bad in ph6. What do you think? Will they still have a raid spot in BT?
They provide an insane amount of damage to their party. These support classes actually do the most damage in the game, it's just that some of it is done by other characters.
Source: web.archive.org/web/20080810210112/elitistjerks.com/f47/t20914-shaman_elemental/
DPS Output Elemental
"As of 2.4, I would expect the following output from a fully geared shaman at the end of that particular tier.
Tier DPS
T4 1000
T5 1400
T6 1750
SW 2050"
Thats pretty close from my experience but you can do up to about 1200 in t4 if itemized and played proficiently, top tier players may get more.
I would love to see Shadow Destro Lock vs Fire Destro Lock
He did it before the shaman vid, check that out!
@@rafaeldornellesdacruz7177 to my knowledge there is fire lock vs fire mage, but i wanna see shadow vs fire (i know i should just take numbers from fire and compare them to shadow, but would it be nice to see how much it can change to previous dmg output?)
@@filiptyburec7229 Shadow destro lock will come out sooner or later, and if it does you can compare that dps to the fire lock dps. Just remember to always take these tests with a grain of salt, don't let it be gospel and definitive proof that x class is better than y :)
Watches video sweating in lighting orbs...
Windfury always wins because of cool factor. Then the ability to dual wield made it even cooler.
before I even watch this, I just want to say, I don't care, I'm rolling enhancement
Despite this outcome, Enhancement is still a good choice in tbc so don't take it too seriously :)
On the pserver I was on last year. I was usually doing more dps than ele shamans. I had the 1st and 2nd lvl of the epic maces - which honestly you can get really early.
I'm rolling enhancement just because I prefer the play style!
@@jimmymemez3977 is that the dragonmaw maces?
And I will take your enhancement shaman in my raid 9 times out of 10 over elemental.
Fun video Hamster, i know ill be rerolling ele sham for BC, and this is pretty much what i remember from back in the day. Enhancement doese respectable dps. but, ele will always eek it out just due to shear utility. even at t6 when enhancment doese more dps, Ele can always drop back and heal if needed. not to mention chain lightning just melts trash lowering the overall clear time for instances.
might and kings benefit more to enha then wisdom and kinkgs to ele, raid buffs IMO put them at even ground
No, it makes the enhancement shaman outperform the ele. Raid buffs are a lot more valuable to enh than to ele.
I couldn't help but notice a Ret Paladin above the Warlocks in that last video giving hope to Enhancement Shamans in tier 6.... Is this also a sign of hope for Rets!
Hey Hamster, I hope you're doing good. I stopped playing wow, don't feel it anymore. I usually come to your channel from time to time, good content, as always.
Wish you all the best, cheers!
I can understand that, and you're welcome for the entertainment bro!
This is cool, but.. Enha serves as "boost" for Elemental at same time :-) His main attack boosts Elemental shamans. + You can boost your dps on Enhancement using fire totems actively.
Fire nova totem lml
Yea there is no way enh is that low. Enh is god tier late game, dragon strike is op as hell. I was doing 2k dps in t5 content on warmane.
Doesnt warmane have buffed damage? i mean i know people do more damage that they should in their wotlk servers but not sure about tbc
He's wearing suboptimal gear for enhancement.
Enhancement doesn't even have Battle shout, talk about a comparison ...
and ele doesnt have mage buff
@@TheMichalkorejtko The buffs that elemental get to increase its dps is far less than what an enhancement shaman gains. This whole video is wrong.
If only you'd get the itemization correct for each raid tier.
Except this is not supposed to be bis for every sginel raid tier, just specific items levels. I even go out of my way to name one category 'preraid BEST IN SLOT' and with the other say what gear they're wearing...
@@HamsterWheelGaming But thats not true.
If it would be "item levels" it would be a reasonable BiS list.
Before you said its a T-Set comparison.
@@SkullcandyEdit Exactly.
your enhancement shaman wasnt geared correctly
Might, battle shout, expose weaknesss, arms warr, str/agi scrolls, etc rly lot of stuff missing for enchance. melee are often lot more reliant on that stuff. Also elixir of demonslaying for fights like that KJ clip you showed are pretty insane for physical, and lot of fights late game u can abuse those.
Absolutely, and it's by no means a 100% perfect simulation. There's also buffs I could add for the caster group but this testing area with the multiple macros and such already gets pretty crazy just to do on my own for these videos. I don't even wanna know how much of a logistical nightmare it would be to try and simulate a perfect raiding environment on my own server, so I decided to leave it as this and that's also why I make it very clear that people should take this with a grain of salt.
@@HamsterWheelGaming Its a worthless simulation because of that, because it completely changes the outcome. Enh is stronger than ele around T5 levels with raid buffs taken into account. Your video here suggests that ele wins out, which it doesnt.
All I see in this video is Big Damage
I planning on making an Enhance shaman alt in tbc!!
Oof u gonna alt a class that requires so much effort to be good? gl
@@itsButeii everyone needs enh in raid
Why?
This series is absolutely awesome
What spec does hammy run enhance in this video? I don't see elemental devastation which is really good especially with improved judgement of crusader debuff on target.
Enh and resto for the increased melee hit
can you do hunters please? Great vid :)
I wonder if maintaining searing totem would help abit the shaman, which you have done in t6 test.
Did you use double Dragonstrike for any of the tests for the enhancement shaman tests? You can dual wield 2x Dragonstrikes they are not unique. coupled with 2x mongoose enchants and DST that is alot of haste idk if you used any of that in the load out.
Also Enh shaman have to use a mish mash of drops as teir is hot garbage i.e the set bonuses are shit and have not very dps oriented stats like mp5 .
Do you plan on having a melee showdown between all the PvE melees like warrior, rogue, retribution paladin and feral cat?
Would like to but I have little knowledge regarding melees in TBC
Hey do you recommend using the lightning capacitor over other trinkets (T4 level trinkets and below)
Yes, even in T5 it's best to use Lightning capa and sextant of unstable currents (T5 crit trink), basically what I am trying to say is that lightning capa is BiS till T6/ZA
Love this thankyou!!!
Would be interested to see how two classes stacks up once their raid utility is factored in. Personal dps is one thing, but the amount of dps increase everyone else gets is probably much more important.
The elemental shaman would still win.
TBC is a ranged expac, and hunters dont get as much from shaman totem as casters do. I think Eric is right in that ele sham will provide way more to the group's overall dps than enhance.
Don´t ele shamans run out of mana tho ?
They do quicker than enh shamans for sure, but they can tone down their dps a bit by removing chain lightning from their rotation. By doing so you're not sacrificing a huge amount of your dps and even then throughout a good chunk of TBC you're probably going to outdps an equivelantly geared enhancement shaman.
So if you an Elemental Shaman in a 5 man and the other dps are melee or hunters should you stick with caster totems or will the overall groups damage be better if give them the totems they would prefer? (maybe take into account the healer benefits from caster totems as well.)
Stick whatever totems benefit the entire group the most. Group dps > your dps. I played an ele shaman for I don't know how long and I always dropped windfury totem if I was in a group with a few melees rather than wrath of air. Unless the healer was struggling and really needed that 101 extra healing.
If you have a warrior tank - wf, palladin - spd. Tbc 5mans are rarely a dps check, rather survivability check.
may be at some point dual wields showdown enh vs fury vs rogue?
Why would you totally skip tier 5 and why wouldnt you consider the actual sunwell bis?
Do all shamans have the taurens totem in tbc? You’re an orc and have Tauren totems
I think this proves that even post-nerf the Lightning Capacitor was a completely broken item that was way too powerful for where it dropped and probably the most OP itemisation in the entire TBC era (possible the most OP single itemisation of all the Classic/TBC/WotLK era).
SV Hunter vs Arms Warr?
This is not even close to reality. First of all enh will get huge buffs from raid. Feral, arms, surv, bm, retri, all arp from warriors/rogues/boomkins/locks, all that shit buff enha. At the same time for elem sham there are not many raid buffs, even CoE doesnt work and bonus nature damage from stormstrike will be consumed by hunter's windserpents.
Also enh should always twist agi and windfury, thats the main reason some need him in raid. And twisting lowers your damage by quite a lot.
uh yeah I know and every spec had like 90% of those buffs? And I already mentioned totem twisting in the end so I don't know why you're bringing that up..
@@HamsterWheelGaming i mean, man, i wana be honest. I know you are really passionate about this game and i really love it. But those videos are so missinformative and pointless without all mentioned things. Like enha would always twist totems in raid, so you have not just mention it, but actually show how it lowers his dps.
Underdogs of raiding was extremely good, but this is just useless, idk. Maybe its a good idea to show logs from legacyplayers for each raiding tier?
Only issue with this video is that Ele shaman are in fact VERY competetive in classic PVE.
Why does the test only last until the ele runs out of mana? How is that a fair or realistic test?
As someone who had played enh since vanilla, I'd like to point out that this is a very poor representation for bc dps, the itemization is not good, you skipped the strongest tier set for enh (t5) and it seems like you just equipped higher ilvl pieces for each rank which is not how it works for enh. DSG trinket from gruul is bis basically forever, and eventually you can min max armour pen onto your off hand, ect. By the time enh hits swp you can be north of 2k dps, by the time bc was ending, 2.5k no problem. Also, how long did you run the dps test for? Ele is all burst and low sustain, they always had mana problems... I mean in one of the tests you can clearly see you don't keep searing totem down for the enh... not to mention with totem twisting you can add good tier damage to any melee group. Not a personal dig at the guy making the video, just wanted to point out this isn't accurate.
Would you consider to publish your gear sets in order for us to follow along?
Thought about it but going through 8 gear sets would make the video very long winded, these are supposed to be short and sweet
Would be a better vid had you actually geared the enhace shaman correctly. Almost all the gear you put on from pre raid on is def not BiS but good effort
Alright moonkin
Do TBC SP vs. Lock with only crafted epics and dungeon gear.
having both play in same 10 man raids is awsome cos elemental getts stormstrike buffs. so massive bolt hits inc.
Elem searing did not work in the vid so it makes even more dmg if searing dropped properly.
could you do a arms warrior versus a ret pala ? pref on horde side ty! :D
Did the boss have 5 stacks of sunder armor?
IS there any viablity of an enchantment shaman with spell dmg gear focusing your dmg on flametongue , fire totem and shocks perhaps?
Have never heard of it, no shaman enh tier gear focuses on it too
@@HamsterWheelGaming ah yea it really doenst make sense to go spelll dmg gear anyways as ench considering 30% attack power = spellpower
Aran shade has low armor, so the enhancement sham is favored and numbers are wrong. Most boss have more armor
Why are you testing Enhancement dps when you arent optimising the WF totem that increases ur ap when you are affected by its effect.
You really should take mana in recognition. Use 3lb+1cl at illidan and you will find yourself oom pretty fast. But yeah, Ele sham in tier 4 is just sick.
gear for Melee Sharman is wrong. Melee shaman has Best DPS when combining with Rouge item
sockets with hit rating? Were on items?
How do I already do more damage with t5 ? as enhancement.
I cant believe the Enhancement rotation bored me within 5 seconds
How was Ele shaman in PVP back in tbc ?
could you create something similar for feral and balance?
Fury warrior vs Rogue!!!
BTW t6 set is horrible for enhancemente.. properly equipped overcomes it from phase 2
I saw your Tauri wow review and the population went up since the lockdown.All raids all wings are being cleared every night.. The pop is around 1.5-2k on Evermoon.. People are doing all content.. Worldbosses etc.. They will open a wotlk server on 15 july
That's awesome, good to see the server is still going strong
smite pirest vs shockadin
i see dual dragon maw and no monguse procs or dst not a good represantation of enha at all
Rogue vs Feral Druid dps
Oh damn that's also pretty interesting, I'll jot it down!
@@HamsterWheelGaming thank you ^^
agree
druid can't benefit from windfury , rogue won
Yeeeee. Haven't watched it yet. I plan on going Enhance.
Still a very strong spec and really really good in late bc so go for it :)
A video fury warrior vs slam arm warrior plz
Enh T6 is terrible compared to random MH and BT gear.
The Enh shaman is wearing poorly itemized gear and the dps test requires zero movement. In BT/Sunwell content, with correct gear, Enh shaman will beat Ele.
tbc release when`?
No one really knows yet
ele is the bis shaman spec i cant wait for lava burst in classic wrath.
I don't want to be a buzzkill, but unfortunately elemental shamans are not strong in wrath (not counting pvp). They don't stack nearly as well as fury warriors, fire mages or boomkins and are often consideren middle to bottom dpsers. I've played one and yes they're really fun and lava burst is awesome, but I never found myself at the top of the dps unless other people were undergeared compared to myself.
GO BEAST!
Use Axes on an orc god damn it.
Axes on an orc are no where close to as good in TBC as in classic, the dragon maces are pretty much perfect weapons for enhancement regardless until sunwell weapons. The lack of sunder armor though is a biiiiig problem.
The blacksmithing maces are bis even as an orc
lmao classic player spotted
Yo! Shaman tank Bollder is here!
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Enhance is missing might and battle shout, huge buffs
Wrong longer fight dps will be zero for elemental because of no mana😂😂
tyty
idk but didnt you read just 1 BiS enh. list ? afaik u dont wanna use that shitty maces as orc u will use the 1h axe from the bs axe spec., bc u will need less expertise to max your dmg.
Elephants Guide me
Jesus it's so flawed I'm surprised you've considered it fine and uploaded it lol
i'll take 300th...Never gonna let you down.
enhancement shamans are easier to play storm strike,shocks while ele is lb,cl and shocks and seeing melee wf crits is more appealing to me then ranged.
Also Enhancementis just such a cool aesthetic. Dual wielding and smacking guys with hammers while flinging spells in their face
@@TurboNemesis yea enhancement is more desired for raids then elemental and if you decide to pvp in tbc hunters/priests really suck for elemental.
viper sting and mana burn drain the craf out of your mana id rather down them asap as enhancement.
@@hvdhvd-mc2pd you'll get kited...
Enhance is life.
Hamster! do Feral Druid vs Balance druid!!!
Do a Arms Fury showdown.
Assa Rogue vs Combat Rogue
The gear you picked for the enhance shaman is literally wrong in all the phases.... Kind of a scuffed comparison imo
how is it 'literally' wrong as opposed to figuratively? And how exactly can the gear be wrong when both have random dungeon gear. They both have the same random items, there's not a specific list obviously in that phase
@@slimthecatdad You just completely ignored what I said. Let me say it again. It's RANDOM dungeon gear on the first level, which means it's not gonna have best in slot, but RANDOM gear. It's not that hard dude, actually listen before you post....
@@slimthecatdad "I wasn't even talking about the first one."
" The gear you picked for the enhance shaman is literally wrong in all the phases"
lol ok, so first you say it's wrong in all phases, and now you say 'actually I wasn't talking about taht phase'. Do YOU even read before you post dude? How can you say it was wrong in all phases and then backpeddle to 'no I wasn't talking about that phase at all!' . Cmon man, that's so disingenuous..