Civil War 1863 Springfield Revisited - 133.7k Subscriber Special
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- čas přidán 2. 09. 2022
- Original Model 1863 Springfield .58 caliber rifle-musket made in 1864. It was nickeled at some point, probably as a parade rifle by the GAR. Otherwise, it's in very good shape.
Howdy, friends. I wasn't super happy with my first video on this bad boy, so I decided to revisit it now that I have 100x as many subs as I did then. Reloads are still a bit slow and awkward, but I have the vision of a naked mole rat with this camera setup, so this is about as good as they're going to get.
And before I get a flood of comments again, US-made cartridges did NOT use wads.
What's wads ?
@@skyrok0645 A bit of paper or cloth you stuff in with the musket ball or bullet to help keep it in place and make sure it has a good seal against the barrel.
Looked like your hands were shaking which is unusual, is it cold or is that head setup really that hard to work with sometimes?
@@John.McMillan Like I said, vision of a naked mole rat. And no depth perception. It's frankly a terrible way to film, but it seems to give decent results.
@@TenaciousTrilobite The results certainly are good, I appreciate the lengths you go to provide top tier content.
Can't believe he's actually reloading it like how they did in the field instead of using 13 different tools to just set the ball in place
you saying that people have used 13 different tools just to put the bullet in place?
@@justarandommalayboi8231 learn what an exaggeration is
@@kazimierzmalewicz3604 ik what it is, i'm just asking is all
@@kazimierzmalewicz3604 No need to be an asshole.
Imagine doing shit under pressure. And this was a huge leap forward compare to conventional muskets
Now i can see why wars lasted so long.
This war lasted 4 years. Afghanistan was fought with tanks, aircraft, and fully automatic weapons. It lasted 20 years.
@@CDJCMstryker In Afganistan, just like Viet Nam, the idiots in D.C. kept the military's hands tied. If it had been allowed " total war" mose it would've been over in months with no Taliban left alive. Another waste of blood and treasure by the fool who are afraid to use the power available.
dz, wars from the medieval, victorian or musket wars in general?
Funny, because this was the percussion capped ones, which made it way faster and reliable.
Imagine flintlock or even matchlock.
3 rounds shot in approximately 2minutes and 15 seconds, could be interesting to compare this to the "rates" of fire that an infantryman needed to do in real combat condition. Cool video
I’m told they trained to three per minute and expected about two per minute in combat. They weren’t fishing stuff out of cargo shorts and they didn’t have a camera setup covering their eyes, though.
tbh alot of kills in the battle field were done with bayonets cuz they could get shot very easily if they reload in the middle of battle without cover
@@echstatistic 1% of the kills in the civil war were bayonets, they were not used often. While yes, they could get shot while reloading, they had trenches and cover.
@@plutoziummmmm And most importantly, hundreds of other infantrymen around them, sending big rifle slugs downrange!
@@hux2000 Yeah
I can't even believe how beautiful that rifle is, that's incredible
Trilobite was at Antietam don’t ever let him tell you otherwise
I was on the forgotten third side of the battle fighting with the horseshoe crabs from the Potomac
@@TenaciousTrilobite i knew it!
Trilo is so old, he was literally at every conflict in history, he saw what Cain did.
He knows why the dinos bit the dust
@@ZanXpeacemaker0989 Trilo was the rock Cain used to kill Abel with
@@Dyloaniusmonk trilo was the meteor that killed the dinos
I wanna say congrats because you have an amazing ton of new subscribers now! You always do a great job in giving us the entertainment that we seek. Thank you for your work
I love how all his videos are subscriber specials 😂
I was getting subscribers faster than I knew what to do with them for a while there. There were actually a couple milestones I had planned out that I skipped because they were going to be back-to-back specials.
Gotta hit those algorithms son
They're like markers for how many subs he had on that day
He likes his subscribers
So
another beautiful classic rifle, what a collection!
I think those rounds are 58 cal. A real bone crusher. That weapon actually has rifling, which makes it more accurate. Great video.
Props to you for doing the whole reload.👍
i wonder what it felt like to be in a war of 1850's like... hol up bruh im reloading gimme a sec
better than half a century earlier 'hol up bruh im reloading gimme 30 secs'
@@carrott36 not better than centuries earlier "hol up i dont actually have to reload as im just swinging a blade around"
@@carrott36 more like 15 seconds.
@@lefr33man nah, that's only the best soldiers usually. The fastest I've ever seen or heard it done was a guy saying he could get it in 9-13 seconds, and he managed 13 that time although I'm sure he can do 9. 20 seconds was the expected reload rate for the British Army, but in battlefield conditions for pretty much everyone it was often 30 seconds, at least for the less-drilled troops.
And the answer - "No problem, bro, take your time. I'm gonna go get a sandwich, you want something?"
Gorgeous looking rifle, love these video's.
Keep up the great content
The First Person gun man has hit the funny number of subscribers. Please applaud.
Quality video. Straight to the shooting part no unecessary talking
Nice work bro, i hope you have a lot more subs.
Bro I like your videos they are entertaining keep it up 👍
Gun reloading videos are satisfying. Especially muskets and other muzzle loading weapons you use. Subscribed!
This is some quality ASMR. Have a sub
Beautiful peice of history
As a regular War of Rights player....I find this beautiful 😍❤️
Im a real man of histiry , and all these types of videos are gppd , keep up the good work
I love your content
Very awesome!
Lookin good!
Your rifle is in amazing condition for its age. I also have a model 1863 and I have shot it, but at some point its barrel was re-lined and the exterior finish on the barrel has some pitting and minor rust.
oh shit. grats on the 1337 count
When Johnny comes marching home, you hit em with this..
What’s crazy is that in the Civil war or any war before that using some form of muskets were expected to fire 3 shots a minute just to get as much lead flying through the air at their target.
The bullet that speeds out of this gun must hit the target and leap into 5 other enemies as a compensation for the time it takes to load one single bullet
This is a top of the notch home defense weapon
Beautiful
Now imagine trying to take that second shot at the charging grizzly bear back in 1863!
At that stage you use your flintlock or your bayonet and pray.
An average of 50-55 seconds to reload. Very nice
Really shows the higher rate of fire the minie ball offered.
...Yes, this is an improved rate of fire.
I saw a guy at the range reloading his 1855 springfield in 13 seconds, so yeah this is pretty fast if you know what your doing.
I can’t even have one of these were I live , I just really want to shoot at the range or like a sport but even that is very hard to get a permit .
I just keep plinking with my air rifles :)
Thanks for the nice video !
Oh wow where do you live?
@@crezzyt Portugal .
@@rolha666 i didnt know portugal had strict gun laws, damn… im glad that i can own anything exept full autos. Germany is quite nice… i miss america sometimes tho
@@crezzyt Very strict, but at least we have low gun violence I guess .
@@rolha666 we have had 8 shootings since 1970 here in germany so i dont think guns are the problem ;)
And we can own pretty much like people in the US
That 1 round per minute fire rate is insane!!!
Did you mean 0.5 round per minute?
My favorite muzzle-loader.
Que bela arma e em otimo estado, parabéns.
This reminds me of Sharp training soldiers in that 3 rounds a minute scene.
Black powder always lots of fun, still have my 58cal. Zuave Union musket along with a 50cal. cap and ball Pistol. Have used the mini ball but prefer the round ball for better accuracy. Also wish could find the sabre bayonet that was used to complete it.
you seem to shake a lot? I notice it in other videos too. Is it cold? Are you nervous? Or just general shaky hands? Sorry if this seems rude I was just curious, great videos and beautiful gun
It's because I really can't see anything with the camera setup covering my eyes. I get a blurry view of my phone screen a few inches from my face and no depth perception, so I have to feel around for things.
@@TenaciousTrilobite oh right, I forgot about that rig you had set up on your head. That makes a lot of sense, as you are seeing through a screen for vision.
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3:00 When your friend is from Georgia
Imagine how one-sided engagements would have been if one side had the 1873 trapdoor Springfield instead of this. What a difference a decade makes.
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A 58 caliber rifle musket shooting a heavy mini-ball over a very stout charge of 120-150 grains of powder is an excellent large/dangerous game load within 150 yards or so. Of course having only one shot isn't optimal, but the rifle/load itself is more than adequate for cleanly taking any beast that roams the earth. 58 caliber Remington Zouave rifle muskets were used to great effect in the 1870's by professional hunters in Africa on elephants.
Load was 65 grains of FFG
@@kirktrof Correct, that was the original military load. I was referring to the load used by PH's on Elephants.
This is why switching to your sidearm is useful
Pew
I wonder how many bullets are buried in that spot where you shoot at
“No rapid fire!”
What kind of POV camera do you use? Ive thinking about getting a camera like that as well to make instructional videos for my friends.
My phone, some goggles, and some rubber bands
@@TenaciousTrilobite that sounds like alot of trouble instead of buying a camera but I applaud you for the effort
I like to imagine how much lead is laying in that one spot on the ground that you shoot at in all of your videos...Must be a lot.
This under the stress of battle especially in one the bloodier civil war battle would have not been fun
Cool man🔫🔫🔫🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
I noticed the powder charge is already packaged behind the projectile. I wonder why they didn't make some kind of a package that soldiers could just put into the barrel, ram it home, put the primer on, and fire. I understand the cartridge was a huge leap forward from all this but I wonder why the original package could not be utilized as one unit.
That was a thing that was done, they're called paper cartridges but ig he just decided not to use them here. They were used in pistols, rifles, and very interestingly needlefire rifles before the invention of the metallic cartridge
@@JosephStalin1941 He was technically using paper cartridges in the video. Just not one that goes into the gun
The Chassepott rifle of 1866 did that, also, the Dreyse Needle gun of the 1840's. Biggest problem with both guns is obturation: how to keep those gases produced from the BP detonation from going back at the shooter's face every time they fire. That issue wouldn't be sold until reliable methods of making brass casings were made in the 1870's...
You didnt hit all the birds this time!
1337
lol nice one
Los rifles de monotiro eran muy lentos, pero para la época era tecnología de última generación, ahora tenemos fusiles semiautomáticos y automáticos, en esa época había que conformarse con eso 👍👍
Perfect weapon to describe "Switch to your sidearm or die"
Except that most Civil War soldiers didn't have sidearms (other than their bayonet, which was useless from a distance). They just had to hope not to die. Must've been freaking terrifying.
Might sound cowardly, but I prefer my life, I'd actually run if I somehow got into that type of situation
Exelente.
Hab einen Nachbau von dem Gewehr, tolles Teil. Hohlbodengeschosse sind empfehlenswert.
Question: why don't/can't people just shove that entire paper cartridge in? Won't it be destroyed upon firing anyways?
I don't think the cap would be able to set it off. They did what you're describing with the smaller revolver cartridges, but those used much thinner combustible paper.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Ah, I see.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Alright but what if you poured in the powder, but didn't unwrap the bullet before stuffing it in?
Couldn't you save a bit of time during reloads that way?
@@Xamp1256 I’m not sure the minié ball would actually properly expand to engage the rifling if you did that.
@@Xamp1256 This worked for older, round musket balls, but these minié-balls are made to expand when fired, so they engage the rifling. Paper gets in the way.
I don't know but everytime you replace the cap you didn't fully pull the hammer, isn't that dangerous?
I never hold a gun before so i dont know if that safe or not
I specifically don’t pull the hammer to be safe. The trigger will not drop the hammer when the hammer is in the half-cock position
How old are these guns and also how did you get so many?
This one was made in 1864, and actually it isn't mine. Most of the ones I film do belong to me, though. I have just been slowly accumulating them over the years as I find good deals.
@@TenaciousTrilobite thanks
Just realized that the Lego musket is based off of this gun
Now let’s go back even further. Flintlock, then Matchlock, then wheellock, then… uh, I don’t know. I’ll have to get back to you on that.
Tenacious Trilobite- Can you do some guns from WW1 & WW2 like all the way from Handguns to AK-47.
Most of the guns I have done for this channel have been from the World Wars. This is one of the few that wasn't
@@TenaciousTrilobite Can you do some new guns like Snpier Rifles
@@justingill8781 I'll do a few at some point, but I don't have many of them on hand. Many of the most well known ones from video games and movies are far too expensive for me to be able to afford.
@@TenaciousTrilobite Do some handguns then
@@TenaciousTrilobite واقعا از ویدئو های شما لذت میبرم 🌹
I have trap door in 45-70 it's a shooter I got it was sighted in at 400 yards
There is a video on CZcams that shows how to turn Springfield rifled muskets into trapdoor Springfield rifles.
thats depressing.
So much better built than the overpriced Italian Pedersoli repros.
❤️
Just wondering what is that cap thing you put on the firing pin? (I’m guessing that’s the name)
That’s a percussion cap. This is technology from before primers and firing pins, so that cap is acting as “the primer”
@@TenaciousTrilobite cool thanks! So it basically ignites it?
@@Alkivo Yes, exactly
@@TenaciousTrilobite thanks again!
@@Alkivo I'd like to add, that the percussion cap was an improvement over the flintlock system since it works while wet, and is easier, safer and faster to use.
Wow the bullet were not going built round anymore
With the amount of time it took to reload them rifles and under the stresses of combat you better make sure you land them shots
Bro I want one of those that you don’t need to clean up after shooting with it yo
It’s really cool how in 100 years guns have become so more advanced that all u have to do if put a box in and pull a lever to shoot.
100?
@@andria6838 you can’t read?
Can't believe that there was so many Civil War deaths from that slow rifle.
It’s one of the most accurate rifles
When you’ve got 80,000 men shooting at each other while standing facing each other in a straight line! Most deaths though were due to Disease and poor sterile conditions in the field hospitals. Many died of sepsis and infections caused by poor sterile conditions.
Getting hit by the bullet this thing fires is a death sentence and is immediate. If you survive getting shot at with this thing... well, that is an almost guaranteed death sentence in of itself; if you didn't die from blood loss waiting for the surgeon to get to you after attending more than 100 patients before you, without painkillers, you would most certainly die of gangrene due to the dirty amputating instruments that wasn't sterilized before being used on you as sterilization and antiseptics wouldn't be mainstreat until the 1870's. Many injured soldiers would rather plead to their comrades to mercy kill them rather thanhave them face a slow and painful death from the hands of an Army doctor.
The biggest cause of deaths in the US Civil War wasn't combat but diseases incurred between combat and the primitive medical science that tried to save the injured but oftentimes accelerated their deaths. If you ever been to a Boy Scout Jamboree, chances are you have heard of their sanitation practices in place at camp. Civil War military camps are like that... minus the sanitation and cleanliness. If you're not vaccinated for common diseases like chickenpox or smallpox or have on hand medicine to combat common diseases like cough or even wash your body or your utensils for eating, chances are you'd be incapacitated or worse killed due to the inadequate health facilities that are seldom available. It's this experience that led to the US Army establishing a sanitation department dedicated to the study of disease propagation and prevention, leading to such important studies as the cause of yellow fever and ways to combat it. The Civil War and the deplorable army camp conditions both sides suffer from is what pushed Clara Barton to establish the American Red Cross after the war...
Meanwhile on the battlefield: some random Union dude, "Wait wait wait! I'm reloading!", 20 seconds later... "So how's the kids back in the South?" Confederate dude waiting: 😐
What happen if do kitchen job after this without washing hands?
Your food will taste like sulphur
“They aint making these things when they used to make” -👴🏻
You didn’t want to wait until 186.3k subs?
I previously did it at 1337 subscribers, so I went for 100x
Isn’t the ball a bit undersized atleast from muzzle loading experience it should take some force to get it down
That’s the whole point of a minie ball. It expands when you fire it.
How rare is it to find one that hasn't had the Allin breechloading conversion?
Not too rare. They made about a million originally. The Allin conversions didn’t even come close to getting them all
your kinda like gunsoftheworld little brother, like in a good way
*Shoots*
Takes 0.3 second
*Reloads*
Takes 300 seconds
It took around 40-60 secs
Спасибо человеку который придумал унитарный патрон, а в бою так пока перезарядишь оружие уже 5 раз убьют
0:30 2:20
Hunters be like: lets hunt the wild animals down with muskets
In most European countries, that's legitimately their only option. Modern hunting rifles and shotguns needs to be registered to a hunting club and be in use for hunting at a bare minimum time per year before they can get a license. Muskets fall outside that. Capandball is an amazing channel showing you how to hunt with a BP rifled musket or for birds, a fowling shotgun...
Just ~43,000 subs before you have to load something like a Charleville, or a Kentucky Rifle on camera.
Oh no, that would be a nightmare
So basically the older wars were just challenges to see who could reloae faster
Basically yes
Unironically, that is an actual thing. Before self-contained rounds become commonplace, half an infantry soldier's time in training is trying to reload their guns the fastest. Some armies' solution to increase firepower is to forego learning how to reload faster and just storm the opposing line with bayonets...
Mestre vi um video seu mostrando um ferrolho de um mauser 98, voce quer vender aquele ferrolho?
No. I need it for the rifle.
Finalmente um br que curte os videos dele
How can this be speedloaded?
Convert it to a breech loading cartridge gun
Do you watch videos on how to use these firearms? Or do you already know?
Mostly just know by now. Or with the smokeless guns I can usually just figure it out. This particular rifle was my first direct experience with a caplock, so I had to look up the proper loading and cleaning processes.
Bro how do I ram it down 💀
Back to your Musket, eh?
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Hi, I have a question. With smooth bore muskets you could use the paper as wadding right? Why not here? Is it because it would interfere with the accuracy? Btw, cool vid ;)
Depends on how the cartridge was designed. The British Pritchett cartridge was designed to use paper as a patch. The American Burton and Williams cartridges were designed to be used without. They’ll get the best results when used as intended
@@TenaciousTrilobite thanks :)
I need me a .58 muzzleloader. There a guy at a local gun show with a Pedersoli Zouave for $750.
not a gun expert
I thought they also use paper or cloth in muzzle-loading firearms
you know, for cleaning or smth
Wads were common in muzzleloaders, particularly smoothbores. The US cartridges in the Civil War era didn't use a wad, though.
@@TenaciousTrilobite thanks man
Soldier:Reload
Soldier again:finally
Another soldier from the border:Sir, the war is over