Camera Slider Comparison. What motorized camera slider is best: Neewer, Zeapon, Edelkrone, Rhino
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
- I decided to make a camera slider comparison video after spending hours doing my own research into what motorized camera slider is best. The most popular motorized camera slider companies seem to be Neewer, Zeapon, Edelkrone, Rhino.
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When I was recently looking to invest in a new motorized camera slider, I realized there was too many to choose from. So I did a lot of digging and spent a lot of hours doing research into motorized sliders. I concluded that the most popular motorized camera slider companies seem to be Neewer, Zeapon, Edelkrone, Rhino. I decided to make a comparison video about which motorized camera slider is best to make use of all the information I learnt.
So many sliders! I wish i had them all that is for sure. What slider do you have or wish you had?
As a hobbyist filmmaker I've been looking at buying a slider, and your video really helped. Thanks for that.
Great review. Very detailed and solid. Thank you. I am looking forward to more videos from you!
Haha, thank you. I tried to be as thorough as possible. This video in particular took a very long time to make.
The customer service and lifetime accidental damage warranty sold me. I believe when it comes to things at this price point, there is hardly an excuse for customer service to be lacking even a little bit.
Thank you for this insightful vid, it’s awesome. Even for a photography focused content creator this video was helpful. Thank you for taking the time to make this vid. I’ll subscribe to get notified when you upload new video’s.
Not a problem and thank you so much. Your kind words mean a lot. I hope you have a fantastic day :)
Great video. Very intuitive. Learned tons. Question- What is a good tripod to get for use for a motorized slider? Looking at the Rhino Arc V2 set up... FYI Your tripod link doesn't work anymore. Thnx!!
thanks so much for your review!! keep up the excellent work!!
Thank you very much :D i will!
Thank you, this was a very god starting point deciding on a slider. Keep up the god work! :-D
And thank you :) i am glad i could help a little. Take care and have a great day!
Thanks so much for the comparison and all the background information regarding the companies 💚
Gvm makes some sliders too comparable to the Neewer. I do love all the company policy and support edelkrone seems to offer but it comes at a hefty price. Perhaps in the near future I'll upgrade to edelkrone.
For now, I was siding towards the Rhino but I too have seen many reviews regarding the bugginess so I think the Zeapon seems perfect for me. As much as it hurts the stability, I love the double distance feature that allows me to get more distance for a smaller package. And according to other comments they have a new pan and title head which sounds fantastic as that's exactly why the Rhino and edelkrone catch my eye.
And thank you for the comment :)
Yes I ended up seeing quite a few gvm after I made this video. It didn’t have a lot of great reviews on b and h even though it looked higher quality than neewer. Yea Edelkrone is a lot unfortunately, really they all are. But rhino seems to be about the worst lol. And yea the zeapon pan and tilt. I hope I can test them out one day and compare them directly to Edelkrones. The way the two systems attach seem to potentially be better but I’ll need to get my hands on them to test to know for sure
This was huge. Thanks for your research and input. Gonna go the same way you did but want to start small. What is minimum budget kit you suggest?
Thanks. Also how long does it take to balance. I hate balancing stuff. I have canon C70 btw with adapter
Thank you very much :) and good choice! it depends on what movement you are most interested i guess. just one slider still can get you lots of shots. obviously adding just one HeadOne for panning + sliding for paralx shots gives you way more range. or you could do 2 headones with the tilt kit, and get pan and tilt but no slide.
no balancing at all this the slider and 2 Headones! there is only balancing with their JibOne and HeadPlus.
Thank you SO much for this video. I’ve been spending days trying to decide which system to invest in. I mainly do product commercials for clients and CZcams. Your comparison of the different systems as well as of the SliderOne and SliderPlus helped me a lot to decide that Edelkrone would probably be the best choice, although no system seems to be perfect. Have you ever tried the Syrp Genie products? I will probably choose between this and the Edelkrone's system..
I am very glad to hear that I could help in some way :) yea these consumer level camera systems there seems to always be at least one thing wrong. The only one that seems perfect costs like 250k, those big huge camera robots. Would love to play around with something like that one day.
No I haven’t, never even heard of them. I will have to take a look. There are a lot of slider companies lol.
Hi Tymek, this was one of the best and most honetst videos about the top 4 slider brands.
Another interesting thing that can be observed in many other industries, too, is that the quality of SW is taking over. Nowadays, everone can do great mechanics, but solving SW issues can quickly become a deadly burden to smaller companies.
Thanks! I’m not even sure what SW is!
@@TymekStolarzWith SW I meant Software.
Haha whoops, thank you. Not sure I’ve ever seen that abbreviated
@@TymekStolarz Sorry for creating any confusion. Anyway, this abbreviation is quite common across many professionals in the IT (information technology) sector or consulting where I am working in. The opposite would the HW, namely the hardware. I sense that I might be sucked into this profession's own type of language - something clients often complain about - so, was my fault -:)
Haha no worries. Thankfully I did know what IT was lol.
Thank you Tymek for your great comparsion. I don't know that Zeapon exist. ;)
The Edelkrone ecosystem is unbeatable. Infinite combinations. Edelkrone is a pioneer here. Compared to before, Edelkrone has learned a lot and the user feedback is also taken very seriously and implemented in the app or in the new product whenever possible.
Not to be forgotten is the trade-up program, where you can buy a new version much cheaper without sending the old device back.
Good evening and thanks for watching and commenting :) Definitely Edelkrone holds the spotlight. for diversity. I like how sturdy the Zeapon appears to be, as well as the additional supports that you can hook up to your tripod. People seemed to be pretty happy with the slider.
@@TymekStolarz Zeapon has released pan and tilt modules similar to the edelkrone system with 6 way points, i ordered the system today for under €1,000
@@mossiegee4674 Hey ! Yes i saw they released them! i wanted to try them out but they only sent me their zeapon quick release to test out haha :( maybe one day they will send me those. the motion control system i am most interested in and would love to have is the JibOne from Edelkrone. a motorized crane would be very interesting to use.
Awesome video! I'm surprised at how little there is for CZcams video comparisons on sliders.
thanks! i appreciate it. i think its just that not a lot of people have access to all the sliders to compare. I wish i had the opportunity to actually physically test them, and maybe i will in the future, but i thought hey i've learnt a lot after doing all this research, maybe this could help someone else with at least a starting point.
@@TymekStolarz very well done! I think I’m going to go with the edelkrone. I just do not want to spend the money right now 😂 would you not recommend the SlideOneV2? I like that it’s small and portable. Thanks!
i actually made a video comparing the sliderone and the slider plus. basically both of them have similar smoothness and just come down to how long of a slide you need. there are times when the smaller slider length is more than fine, especially for the finer macro shots of products. but there is a lot of things i wanted to do with the longer slider length. overall i think id prefer the longer length, but it is a little more cumbersome to set up needing a separate motor, cant really travel with it easily etc. pros and cons to both.
@@TymekStolarz dude thank you so much for the feedback! Really good stuff but now I’m not sure what one to get 😅 they both look awesome. I really want it for commercial product shoots where the longer one would be better but I also want it for the home office for CZcams. Thanks again for the help!
haha i know its a tough call. what i REALLy want is the KIRA - motorized precision lol. Best of luck on your decision and future video making :) Take care
Very helpful and complete comparison. I personally preferred zeapon slider because of the price. I complemented with Syrp genie solution to make it 3 axis slider.
Thank you very much :) I appreciate you taking the time to let me know. It definitely seems like a really good pick for its price. Id love to try one out but most of the stuff i shoot now is always 2 axis. How do you find the performance when you are programming two different motions in 2 apps? Tedious at all?
@@TymekStolarzYes, a little tedious, but not too much. With practice, sync movements between 3 axis using 2 different apps is fast and even easy. First I set the slider movement on the zeapon (using keyframes if necessary), the app then shows the movement total time. Based on that, I set the tilt movement on the genie for the same amount of time. To sync the movements, I use my iPhone and an Ipad to manage each device separately. On both apps, you have the bounce option, so you just have to make little adjustments as needed. Additionally, sometimes, I use a turntable with this setup, this give me a much more dynamic footage on product and stock videos. I'm happy with my choice. The results worth it.
Nice! It sounds like any extra steps doesn’t slow you down. The end result is the most important anyways. I think motion control is great but even having everything in one app sometimes feels tedious. I got the A7s iii ( my first camera with IBIS and some stab options) so I’ve been trying hand held but it’s just never as good lol. It’s a pipe dream but I would love to use one of those massive camera robots (Motorized Precision - Kira) those look insane.
What's the heaviest setup you have used on the slider long? Also given that the slider moves and you can only mount in the centre, have you found any issues with using the maximum sliding length?
I’d have to double check the actual weight of all the gear, but I think I’ve had it in the 75-85% weight capacity when I had checked it last a while ago. I did reach out to ask about weight capacity and edelkrone support said that having at 100% was okay, and that you shouldn’t have any issues with failure or excess wear and tare as long as you are under 100 % capacity.
I have the exact same setup coming in the mail, 055 tripod and all. I saw you mention in your other video about the sagging you have with your slider. Does this happen with any amount of gear mounted, or only when you're using the dual HeadOnes? I just crunched the numbers on weight, and the regular v5 long slider is only good for ten pounds on tripod, and the dual head one setup itself comes to 3.5 pounds roughly, cutting it close when you have a camera with a sizeable lens mounted... I only ordered one HeadOne for my setup so far, but I'm considering getting the tilt. Problem is I want to be able to use a Blackmagic Pocket 4k or my Fujifilm XT-4. If I want tilt, that's the only option I can go with this slider, because the HeadPlus is five pounds on its own and would definitely cause some issues. What are your thoughts?
Good morning :) So in that sag test i did, i actually didn't have any HeadOnes attached, just my camera and a Manfrotto tripod head. So 3.6 pounds for the camera and lens, and an extra 1.1 pounds for the head - I would have probably gotten even more sag with the full setup. This problem is more so the tripod though, not the slider. That middle column designs that allows you to extend upwards is the weak spot and you can see how it shifts back and forth. Someone commented that they use the Manfrotto 536 tripod and even with a HeadPlus set up they don't get any sag.
Yea if you wanted the HeadPlus, you would definitely need the more expensive Pro slider. It looks like on Edelkrone they say that a Slider long regular, and the 2 HeadOnes w/ tilt kit should handle 7 pounds of camera load, which i think should cover most DSLR, mirrorless setups, even with heftier lenses.
@@TymekStolarz Good morning, thank you for the response. This is good information to know, wish I could afford to dish out on a higher quality tripod, but I'll make do with what I have until then.
Same here haha. I’ve noticed that adding a pan motion makes the dip very difficult to detect. Also just using less of the slider length will help a lot. I tried adding rotation key frames in post but it’s tedious and looks a little odd sometimes.
@@TymekStolarz I wish the center column had a hook so I could use weight to weigh it down, that might negate the effects. I see a number of folks using the 055 with Edelkrone so they must be getting by as well. Maybe if I start making money on my investment I'll buy the better tripod.
Yea I had thought that too. Thankfully there is still a lot that you can do with the set up, even if it isn’t absolutely perfect. The upgraded tripod is something I want but don’t need at this moment. I think I want to get the JibONE one day, at which point the heftier tripod will be necessary.
I would have loved to see also the ifootage options since are very attractive sliders (the new Nano mainly for me). Nice video, thanks
Good morning :) Sorry about that. I had seen some things about ifootage but they didn’t seem to be as widely used as 4 I picked to analyze, and 4 already made a pretty long video. I am always looking to try and review new gear so hopefully maybe one day I’ll get the opportunity to look at it. Thanks again for commenting and I hope you have a good day.
Since you made this Zeapon brought out their pan/tilt modules so with some careful price tracking i got the full slider and pan/tilt system for just over €730 which now puts it almost toe to toe with Edelkrone in some areas and with the power of the motors even ahead of it at around half the price
Thats awesome! im glad you were able to get a deal. i saw them get released and am hoping to get my hands on them at some point. have you tested them out yet?
@@TymekStolarz So far just getting used to the basics and learning some of the limits, using a Canon 90d and Sigma 17-50mm and it handles the weight with no issues even fully vertical
Wow very interesting. i will have to try and get my hands on a set to test it out.
Are you able to use the full track length on your Edelkrone on a push in or pull out with a wide angle lens without catching the track in frame?
That’s a good question. Im going to guess wide like 16 mm full frame you’ll probably see it towards the end. 24 mm might not be visible the whole way. I’ll test it later this evening when I have access to my equipment
@@TymekStolarz thanks so much - was looking at this for real estate application - vs Zeapon or waiting for the Slypod Pro with 22" travel and camera sitting on end of track, with no possibility of screen blocking....
Hey there sorry about the super late reply.
So I tested it out and this is what I found:
If you are using something like the Edelrkone flex tilt head that keeps your camera really low to the slider. You can basically see the end of the slider for most of the track for 17 and 24 mm.
If you raise the flex tilt head, or use a ball head ( like the manfrotto XPRO ball head) then the 24 mm you can almost get to the opposite end of the track before you start seeing the other side. 17 mm you can see it around the middle unfortunately.
Hi Tymek,
Nice review! Just subbed.
I have the Edelkrone but they keep updating their products too fast. Tried to get the trade up but it hasn’t worked.
This led me to look at the Zeapon. Looking for an update on the E800 and when the tilt and pan motors are released.
Have you seen the hyla suction cups you can use to mount on a car, windows and other flat surfaces which gives you more creative options. Also the angles that the sliders are be placed with a load capacity from 3.5-4.5kg is really nice. As you mentioned, they have carbon fiber or leg frame support that makes the edges more stable when it slides to either edges without the need of a bulky tripod (like with Edelkrone). And I like the option of the dolly wheels.
Anyhow, if Zeapon does send some your way, do let me know.
Yea they do update their products pretty quick which i guess is a great and bad thing at the same time haha. its good to know they are constantly innovating and improving but as a consumer its sucks not having the latest gear they release. I am quitting my job in a couple weeks to take a swing at this full time, hopefully over a year or two i can grind out enough videos to be big enough to do sponsorships and product reviews provided by companies.
I havent seen anything about the added motors unfortunately but it should make the system a lot more versatile. i still havent tested the unit out myself but i've seen mostly great reviews about the sliders performance. i've seen those suction cups and i also like the dolly wheels, they are definitely trying to innovate as well and trying to set themselves apart.
@@TymekStolarz
Nice! Good luck doing YT full time. Looks like you have an act for this line of work. And hopefully you can grow your channel fast and get some steady income.
Thank you for the kind words. And the only way to get better is to just do it so that’s the plan. Build a library of videos, get better with each video. We ll see how that goes lol.
Can edleKron travel as fast as the Rhino? I have a mini Ursa and I'm woried, that it would either fall over or cause a dip in the footage that is more extreme than with the lighter cameras you showed in your demo.
Hey there George :) I looked up the stats and it looks like Edelkrone's max speed on the Slider plus (2.52 in/sec) is half as fast as Rhino (5 in/sec), so definitely quite a bit slower. Camera weight probably changes these speeds too. As far as dip goes, i've been told that a solid 75-100mm bowl tripod is absolutely necessary to really anchor the slider in place, especially at its end limits. The Ursa is definitely a lot of camera, not sure what the weight of your lens and accessories would be but the Slider Long v5 pro is rated up to 9kg cameras on the tripod. As long as you have a solid one, and extend the legs farther than the slide itself and your set up is under 9kg, I dont see why it shouldn't work. If you have any concerns id recommend reaching out to Edelkrone, their technical support is some of the best i've ever received.
Thank you Tymek for the comparison! What about iFootage Shark Slider Nano ? For example youtuber Tom Buck is using this slider.
It definitely looks pretty cool. i was this one be reviewed by Gerald Undone, i like how it has a control system right on the product - using an app is definitely a little bit of a pain. I obviously havent used one but Gerald seemed to like the performance of the one he tested. it doesnt look like there are any options for a tilt axis at the moment though - which isn't a deal breaker but its a great additional axis to use.
Tymek I don't have any slide system at all ! like the info however, I think when you present the specs of the each slider would be so beneficial to any person who wants to know more, to keep all the specs and comparison a little bit longer on the screen, for those who are into it, it's just my thoughts.
Good evening and thanks :) I am just trying to keep the pace of the video moving. I suggest pausing the video if you want to read all the details. Thanks again :)
Tymek, you can still talking and get the screen longer on, i wasn't able to cutch all he specs info. I think this is very important who does care about it. Just my suggestion.
@@michaznak2097 Thank you for your suggestions, I will keep it in mind for my future videos.
This was by far the most informative slider video I've seen. New to this side of the video industry and trying to make a proper and informed decision about which product. I think I have selected the Edelkrone really like the concept of starting out small and working up. Toss up between that and the GVM system. Do you have any points of view on the GVM 3 axis carbon fiber system? Would love your input on that system? Again thanks CHEERS from throughourlens.ca
Hey there :) thank you very much for the kind words! Yes I really liked that about edelkrone as well, and now I am considering getting the motorized JIBONE and because I have the headones I can just add it to the system instead of buying a whole new set of heads.
I haven’t heard a lot about GVM, it looks like the slider itself is rated quite well at least for B AND H, it kind of looks like a similar system to the Neewer slider; however the 3 axis system doesn’t seem to be as well received, although on b and h there are only 7 reviews, but 4 of them are only 1 star. Without looking too much more into it that kind of raises a little bit of a flag
The simplicity of the Edelkrone system again tops the list. I went to B&H to check it out the GVM Reviews and When a review starts with
” poor quality don't bother”
it makes you wonder. After I read the other 2 my mind is made up. It’s going to cost a bit more then I expected but I feel the investment to get started with good quality EQ is essential. Will be reviewing the rest of the videos on your channel. Keep up the good work really appreciate the information I’ve learned so far. Ciao
I think you are making the right choice!
Thanks a lot, i appreciate the support and encouragement :) i hope you have a really great day.
I actually paused and I’m now about to comment which one ....... the third one sounds like the best . But I’m going for the cheap Neewer lol
Haha good job! And thanks for commenting. I probably did have the most positive things to say about Edelkrone. I think any slider will always be better than no slider. I use them in a lot of my videos especially for broll.
I've gone for the micro 2 and it's pretty much perfect as i already have an RS2 Gimbal. I have a few options for powering the rs2 option 1 was a yc onion power supply base this takes 2 npf batteries mounting either side. The weight of this alone is 800+ grams. I also have a tilta power supply base for the rs2 this weighs about 200g it's powered by a V mount battery on to the rs2 i added a bmpcc 4k in a full cage. with the yc onion power this was too much for vertical shots and the belt slipped. but the tilta power base was light enough that the micro 2 could lift the gimbal vertically. to be fair at a 45 degree angle both setups work.
Nice! well thats quite the set up, but definitely the weight can start to add up. I hope no damage was caused when the belt slipped.
@@TymekStolarz I was ready for it, slider seems to be ok with it, no problems reaching either end. Biggest problem has been finding a good bag for carrying the RS2 and the micro 2 and a camera and maybe a tripod too. There is a backpack made by Edelkrone for its one flash system. bags big enough to hold the rs2 pro bag the micro2 and the bmpcc in a camera bag. I do have a 32 litre temba bag coming which may work out better.
Hello I was seeing your video to make up my mind about the best slider and ended up buying a slider from a company you didn't review, and in my opinion is way better tan the Neewer slider. Check out the Noxon Mod Slider because it's amazing and it has a pretty good price. Keep up the good work
Hey there :) Yeah there were a few sliders I left out because their are so many and it would have been too long of a video. Thank you for the suggestion, i may not be looking at the right model but it seems like their sliders are quite a bit more expansive then Neewer. But it definitely looks better quality and a much more solid slider. Which one did you buy specifically?
@@TymekStolarz Hello Tymek, thank you for taking the time to read and respond my comment. I bought the 80cm mod slider with panning and tilting modules. The thing I liked the most is that the slider has an interchangeable rail system and i can have a 120cm slider without having to buy a complete unit. Also is really precise I use it with a Laowa 24mm x 2 lens so presition was pretty important for me and gladly this slider didn't let me down.
Not a problem! I reply to everyone and I enjoy talking to people about their tech :). Well that’s good to hear. And the slider itself is very smooth? No shaky footage? Or do you have to add stabilization in post to get rid any micro jitters. It seems like every slider always has some.
@@TymekStolarz I was expecting some vibration when using the Laowa lens, but I was surprised to see there was none. The slider movement is really smooth in all 3 axes. I didn't need to add any stabilizer. If you need a reliable slider I think this one is the best choice on the market right now.
Very interesting. I will definitely have to look into it. Over all i am happy with Edelkrone, but i often have to add stabilization if using pan and slide. Although I am finding i wish i had an additional axis. Something like the JibOne. i cant seem to find a lot of other companies offering motorized cranes.
Fyp!
I think that’s the wrong platform, but thank you for commenting and increasing user interactive! Thanks :)
I think you got Zeapon
So close! I would like to get my hands on one. I think the support attachments for the tripod are ra really good idea. I just wish they had more motion control systems. Thanks for the comment :)
I think they're all too expensive for what they are. Especially in the day and age of cheap Arduinos and/or Raspberry PIs.
I would agree that they are pricy. But comparing them to professional camera robots (like Kira from Motorized Precision) it's nice that theres something available at the consumer level. Would love to have access to a Kira though lol.
Get a better job. If you are not making money from your work then don't buy it.
this is the worst experience i've ever had.they can't help you.they make broken alts in a short time and they won't help. they waste your money. zeapon
Im sorry to hear that :( from what i saw online, people generally seemed to be happy with the Zeapon sliders. which one do you have?
why you keep leaving comment everywhere but don't reply when we are trying to help?
Now that was a quick response haha. im not even sure how you were able to find this comment thread so quick.
@@TymekStolarz sorry for the disturbing, he's commenting almost every video 😭
No problem, best of luck to the both of you, hopefully the problems can be solved.
Too much you , not enough product.
Haha fair enough. I appreciate the feedback :)
How much are you paying him for his research?
You can't make videos like this when you don't actually use any of the productsm you're just talking about amazon listings this is bad content imo
Thanks for nothing
I am sorry to hear that :(