_Enterprise_ should have ended like _Farscape_ did: Have the final Episode of Season 4 end on a cliffhanger (setting up the start of the Earth-Romulan War) and then complete the story with a Miniseries released a few months later. One that covers the Battle of Cheron, the end of the War, the founding of the Federation *and Archers' Speech, god damn it!* And then finish it with an epilogue, with an elderly T'pol attending the Maiden Voyage of the NCC-1701, bringing the franchise full circle.
These Are The Voyages was well-intentioned but badly executed. Terra Prime (the penultimate episode) was a superb episode which would have made an a amazing finale. Events in it were symbolic to the eventual federation and the coming together of species.
Totally agree! I don't rewatch that last episode. I know it won't happen, but I'd love to Enterprise start up again with a season 5. The show had a number of multi-episode arcs where the second or third episode started with catching you up, Well, season 5 episode one could start with a big catchup on what's happened since season four (minus anything that happened in the finale that was just a holodeck program). It could explain any personnel changes and anything else of importance. Then take off again and hopefully get more exploring (and less fighting). But if it still has to be combat heavy, so be it. I loved the unique take in so many episodes that highlighted how things were in the early days. It would be a more mature crew, but not ready for retirement. Besides if some crew can't return, they could be filled with a few younger cast members. Or replaced with another actor in a similar role to serve the same purpose. But it would be nice if more of the crew could return. And then I wake up from my dream, lol.
But man..! Did you see T'pol chop those carrots? Forget running from electric storms or fighting off WW2 tech enhanced fighters, those carrots were the real threat... ... No I couldn't keep a straight face either.
The lore of the series, as brought by Manny Coto, the man who wrote Trek stories in other shows before he landed season 4 and made the fanbase 'WANT' it. Archer was a good foil to the fans expectations, going from bright and optimistic, to jaded and lamenting his dreams and his fathers hopes as he wrestled with the galaxy as it was... But always hopeful that he could make things better, and defy the Vulcans expectation that humans would relapse. Like the title poster said, 'Meet James Kirks hero'
If they'd just gotten one more season... baby Elizabeth would reportedly have survived, Shran would have joined the main cast, and the fledgling Federation would have been up to its nose in Romulan intrigue. I think it would have gone its full seven planned seasons.
The one time I was glad of the internet was I got this spoiler alert well before watching the episode. I avoided it for ages. These guys deserved better. 2 More Seasons better.
Season 4, minus the final episode was and still is the greatest gift ENT gave the fandom for it's character development and a glimpse at the lore of Trek. All cooked up by Manny Coto who has gone beyond the great barrier.
I still haven't watched TATV. I was warned at the time it aired that I wouldn't like it and I was in the middle of taking my finals at Uni. Every so often I think I'll watch and then I decide to watch Terra Prime instead and quickly stop before it auto plays TATV!
TATV would have been a good piece of mid-season fanservice. As a series finale, it was dog crap. And the kind you get when your dog eats something that really disagrees with him.
@@Sephiroth144 Right. As anything but a series ender, it's "hey, they found a way to stick Jonathan Frakes into another Trek". Counting directing, he's up to eight now. Nine if you give him credit for that MCI commercial he did with the whole TOS cast. Having him sort of be Trek's answer to John Ratzenberger would be a good in-joke. But even Mr. Frakes was quoted as saying he shouldn't have been there.
Well I must say even if it is a bad episode from a story perspective, it is the best end for Enterprise as a symbol of a great show which was ruined by an impressive amount of bad production decisions.
Last ep was awful. They killed Trip for shock value, let the whole thing take place on a holodeck and didn't even see fit to let Archer give his speech
The books do well to undo the damage, and they're very good but that last episode and the CGI Gorn in a previous episode really left a sour taste in my mouth.
Thank you Dominic!!! Yes it was an insult to Scott!!!😥😠
I agree with you Dominic it should have never went down like that!
_Enterprise_ should have ended like _Farscape_ did: Have the final Episode of Season 4 end on a cliffhanger (setting up the start of the Earth-Romulan War) and then complete the story with a Miniseries released a few months later. One that covers the Battle of Cheron, the end of the War, the founding of the Federation *and Archers' Speech, god damn it!* And then finish it with an epilogue, with an elderly T'pol attending the Maiden Voyage of the NCC-1701, bringing the franchise full circle.
These Are The Voyages was well-intentioned but badly executed.
Terra Prime (the penultimate episode) was a superb episode which would have made an a amazing finale. Events in it were symbolic to the eventual federation and the coming together of species.
Not giving us Archer's speech at the Federation Founding Ceremony is unforgivable.
Totally agree! I don't rewatch that last episode. I know it won't happen, but I'd love to Enterprise start up again with a season 5. The show had a number of multi-episode arcs where the second or third episode started with catching you up, Well, season 5 episode one could start with a big catchup on what's happened since season four (minus anything that happened in the finale that was just a holodeck program). It could explain any personnel changes and anything else of importance. Then take off again and hopefully get more exploring (and less fighting). But if it still has to be combat heavy, so be it. I loved the unique take in so many episodes that highlighted how things were in the early days. It would be a more mature crew, but not ready for retirement. Besides if some crew can't return, they could be filled with a few younger cast members. Or replaced with another actor in a similar role to serve the same purpose. But it would be nice if more of the crew could return. And then I wake up from my dream, lol.
TATV was a slap to Bakula but also the whole cast and fans. Needed a better send off.
It really did deserve better, Enterprise had so much potential and it had so many strong episodes. It easily had more series left in it.
But man..! Did you see T'pol chop those carrots? Forget running from electric storms or fighting off WW2 tech enhanced fighters, those carrots were the real threat...
... No I couldn't keep a straight face either.
Amen! These Are The Voyages was a clusterfuck of good and bad intentions. The producers made it about them and not the show itself.
Enterprise should STILL be going on TODAY.....
The lore of the series, as brought by Manny Coto, the man who wrote Trek stories in other shows before he landed season 4 and made the fanbase 'WANT' it.
Archer was a good foil to the fans expectations, going from bright and optimistic, to jaded and lamenting his dreams and his fathers hopes as he wrestled with the galaxy as it was...
But always hopeful that he could make things better, and defy the Vulcans expectation that humans would relapse. Like the title poster said, 'Meet James Kirks hero'
If they'd just gotten one more season... baby Elizabeth would reportedly have survived, Shran would have joined the main cast, and the fledgling Federation would have been up to its nose in Romulan intrigue. I think it would have gone its full seven planned seasons.
it would if it wasnt for that god awful theme song.
@@purefoldnz3070 It's been a long road......
@@TheHedgehogsDelimma which wasnt supposed to be the theme song.
It should have been the bridge episode between the mirror universe episodes and the Terra Prime episodes.... without Trip dying.
The one time I was glad of the internet was I got this spoiler alert well before watching the episode. I avoided it for ages.
These guys deserved better. 2 More Seasons better.
Terra Prime will forever be Enterprise's finale to me. THAT episode is a noncanon tribute to Star Trek as far as I'm concerned
Well said Dominic
Terra Prime will always be the TRUE series finale. That final speech summed up everything, especially with Soval with his approval.
I absolutely agree with everything you say there.
Season 4, minus the final episode was and still is the greatest gift ENT gave the fandom for it's character development and a glimpse at the lore of Trek. All cooked up by Manny Coto who has gone beyond the great barrier.
I still haven't watched TATV. I was warned at the time it aired that I wouldn't like it and I was in the middle of taking my finals at Uni. Every so often I think I'll watch and then I decide to watch Terra Prime instead and quickly stop before it auto plays TATV!
TATV would've been a great standalone episode, obviously with a different 22nd century plot. As a finale it was agony to watch
Archer! 🖖Captain, my Captain
TATV would have been a good piece of mid-season fanservice. As a series finale, it was dog crap. And the kind you get when your dog eats something that really disagrees with him.
Heck, even as a season finale; but yeah, as a series finale, it was a slap in the face.
@@Sephiroth144 Right. As anything but a series ender, it's "hey, they found a way to stick Jonathan Frakes into another Trek". Counting directing, he's up to eight now. Nine if you give him credit for that MCI commercial he did with the whole TOS cast. Having him sort of be Trek's answer to John Ratzenberger would be a good in-joke. But even Mr. Frakes was quoted as saying he shouldn't have been there.
Well I must say even if it is a bad episode from a story perspective, it is the best end for Enterprise as a symbol of a great show which was ruined by an impressive amount of bad production decisions.
Last ep was awful. They killed Trip for shock value, let the whole thing take place on a holodeck and didn't even see fit to let Archer give his speech
The books do well to undo the damage, and they're very good but that last episode and the CGI Gorn in a previous episode really left a sour taste in my mouth.
I liked the series, but the ending was as pathetic... even more so than the Seinfeld ending.
What's the deal with Klingons? I've never seen them cling on to anything.