Easy No Till Brassica Food Plots
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- Planting brassica food plots does not have to be very hard. In fact, for nearly 20 years I have been using these no till brassica planting methods with a huge degree of easy success! Whether you are planting turnips, radishes, rape seeds or a quality combo of all 3, this really is a can't miss way to plant incredible fields of high volume green. My favorite is the Ultimate No Till food plot planting method, and this is the perfect illustration for just how successful using Brassica within this method works!
To find the Sweet Feast Brassica blend I use for these no till food plot planting methods, visit www.northwoodswhitetails.com/ - Jak na to + styl
This was loaded with great information! Thank you Jeff.
You are very welcome...I hope it helps folks out a lot!
Jeff,
Great comments. It is really good to actually see the video of your results...especially the results when using the Urea on the Brassica!!!
We got all our planting done yesterday, and sprayed afterward. We had about 2-5 hrs of dry weather before receiving an 1.5" of rain. I hope that is enough time for the RU to work.
We did have a major equipment breakdown and will have to replace the engine on the UTV.
Looking forward to seeing things green up. thanks again for all your guidance during your visit.
Bob
Got to this video earlier than I get up for turkey hunting
Ha, too funny! Hope you like it Mike!
Ya buddy, got my Sweet Feast in going on two weeks ago. Finally got rain today. Hopefully it will take off. Fall Forage with some tillage radish going in at the end of the month. Clover also to complete the 3 stage smorgasbord. Ty for all you do Jeff. Love your videos brother. 👍🏻
Rain baby rain!! Got lucky i planted last Saturday, and we got a 3/4 inch rain yesterday in MN. It’s all about Mother Nature now, absolutely need to do the urea, gives it a huge boost.
I have a really sunny flat spot on a hillside that I wanted to plant something on I'll give this a try thanks for the info I'm having a bit of bad luck the cable on my bow frayed and now I have to take a trip to the bow shop really happy it didn't happen during the season
Thank you for clearing that up (post emergent) I have explained that to people exhaustively and no one believes me.
You are so welcome Wes! It is a very common question. I think I will hit it again soon...so much confusion out there
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751. It drives me nuts hahaha. Yes you need to hit it again and again step by step.
Great video brother be safe GOD BLESS Amen.
I'm going to try the 46-0-0, thank you!
I will be using your seed blends next year for sure
Thanks a lot Randy, and you can expect prices to be around 25% less too 😊 We really appreciate it!!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 25% less, oh wow that's even better. Thank you so much for all you do for us!!!
I think I’m going to try brassicas this year on my 2 small plots.
Grat show bud!! Mine plots are thriving. Just cause I planted them in april. But my cow pastures are browing up cause 90s and little rain. Another snowy cold winter coming
definitely doing the buckwheat next year 👍
Gonna plant tomorrow
Getting ready to do this here in Arkansas.
Good luck!! I hope you have great success...fun time of the year for sure 🙂
Upstate NY here. Put the soy/brassica mix down a week ago, no till, no drill, just broadcast. Got some rain and seeds began to germinate especially the brassica. I'm in the same boat you were now as we have not had near enough rain. Tried to talk my buddy into doing rain dances. No luck. Hope it rains soon.
Ha, looks like it coming your way Mark? We had a great shot of rain last night...maybe the hope of a rain dance worked? Also I just landed in Buffalo for clients this week...I'm pretty close I am sure!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I'm a few hours east of Buffalo but I have friends out that way. Love your videos sir. I've learned so much and have drastically changed the way we manage the 50 acre property we have. No spring food this year hoping to turn the "nocturnal property" around. Also moved the food so we aren't spooking deer every time we venture out. We definitely screwed it up the past few years. Thanks again!
@@talon769 Hello Mark, I have 70 acres in southern Wyoming County. NY. I have been following Jeff's videos all this year and I have planted 5 micro food plots using his Half/Half recommendations. (Brassica one side/rye,oats, etc other. ) The brassicas were planted August 15th and the rye blends one week later. So far all seem very good. I am planning on using his buckwheat recommendation and plant all of the plots around June 15 next summer after I spray the plots starting in late april (two sprayings should do it). Jeff has been very helpful. Regards John
@@johndhead1 Jeff is an amazing resource for sure. Soy was wiped out by deer this year. First time that has ever happened. Brassica looks great but the deer around here don't touch it until after our deer seasons end in December. I put winter rye down in late September but we've had very little rain until recently. Hoping it pops up. The property is in Otsego county noit far from Cooperstown. Best of luck this year!
Tons of great advice on this channel! What about in the south where it’s miles and miles of pine forest, what should a hunter be looking for as far as a food source to hunt around and such things like that? I have a 200 acre farm with swampy hardwoods with so many deer it’s like a petting zoo, but I recently got in a club 70 miles away and it’s all pine woods and forestry area. I’m lost as a goose as far as food sources and seasonal deer patterns in strictly pine forest.
Jeff great information. I’m glad to hear that you can plant your seeds same day after spraying glyphosate. I’m gonna try this. Is planting around August 16-17 to late in West Tennessee?
Jeff great video!! could you spread the brassicas, then mow and spray the weeds and get the same mulching results as rolling the buckwheat?
Hey brother I’m goin to try that brassica stuff soon. I’m goin between doin a little stuff and hurtin bad after so I have to pick my days now to do something.
Awesome video. Maybe my fav yet. Clears up all the issues and concerns on these plots. Only ones I do myself. Same way. 2 questions.
1. One of my areas are very bare with no weeds or thatch. Seeded before a rain a week ago. But doesn’t look like anything came up after a week of no rain. Is it ok still ? Or is it toast ?
2. I over-seedEd some of my over-browsed beans and their are some grass weeds same height as the 8 inch beans. I assumed they wouldn’t get pods being over-browsed. Anyway coild I spray cleth on the radish/turnip soybean plot to kill the grasses ?
Or will it harm the beans and brassicas too ? And do I need to eliminate the 6-8 inch grass weeds?
Jeff quick question. If I have barssicas in the ground but allot of grass taking over can I hit it with Clethodim and not harm the brassicas or will it kill it!
Can you make a video showing a shopping list for a no till brassica plot?
I have planted various brassica blends numerous times and have always had great success getting it to grow. My problem is the deer won't touch it until January / February. Any thoughts on why?
What would be a good pre emergent to use right now before I put my seed out
So with an old pasture do I need to expose the soil? Right now I am going with a weeder and spitting it up to get bare soil
when you go over seed with atv and cultipack, does it push seeds in too far?
Do you lime before planting, what about fertilizer?
Hi Jeff Great video!! My wheat is about 26 inches tall in my food plot right now. Whats my next best option out here in West Texas?
What do you think about combining crops on a food plot such as Brassica and Alfalfa or brassica and clover
Been watching most of your videos and love them !great job showing your passion! A little tip (from a chemistry major) ;you should't be putting glyphosate on food plots; its a chelator (bind's to cations) - Ca, Fe, Zn, and Mn; (calcium , iron, Zinc, magnesium) ; might be good for short term killing what you don't want there; but it binds to these metals irreversibly so now your soil will be lacking these metals forever and have a weaker and weaker yield (year to year)
were do you buy these seeds love your videos watch them all the time thanks for all the knowledge
Great video! I come in from out of state to plant fall food plots in potosi Wisconsin. I get one shot and this year will be the 17th of this month. If I till and throw brassica and walk away, how long is that seed able to germinate if I dont plant ahead of a rain storm?
Any suggestions controlling japanese stiltgrass in perennial clover plots? Which treatment works?
Absolutely love all your videos. I have already weed killed my food plot about a 1/2 acre in a hard to get to place. I've always used imperial no plow, was getting ready to order it today and then seen this video. How much difference is there in that seed and the one you use? Thanks and keep up the great work.
Thanks a lot I really appreciate that! This is a straight, strong Brassica blend. I like it a lot! Very high volume and will germinate immediately with just moderate rain...I posted John's link in the description. Let me know what you think if you try it!
Hi Jeff I have planted a no till brassica food plot this year and it has been growing great but I planted the other half in soybean ( not no till) and they have not done good and I had a bad germination rate on the beans I don’t think I got them into the soil enough. What would you recommend for planting in that half of my plots I was thinking a winter wheat or winter rye I am located in upstate ny
I hand spread no till brassicas 2 weeks ago. On top of grass. You think it will work?
Love this video. Might be my favorite you've done. Question on the Urea....how much do you apply, where do you get it? How much does it cost? Okay...that's like 3 questions. LOL
There's this thing called Google.
Jeff are you using cornerstone plus for your killing there ?
So if you are attempting to still put up a food plot should you just spray it and then throw some seeds down?
Would the brassicas grow in field of tall grass if I put glysophate on it after broadcasting if I didn’t knock the grass over after spraying it?
Just a quick question. If it was July and we’re wanting to put in our brassica plot. Instead of using buckwheat do you think we could seed into the native grasses, roll them, then spray. Just curious if you think we would have the same outcome.
Good evening Jeff I have a quick question for you will brassica grow in a sand bed if I put out fertilizer and lime to the sand bed ?
What brassica will work in shaded/filtered sun light in the woods iv dropped the trees in the area im going to plant but the surrounding canopy is still blocking alot of sunlight, its maybe a .25 acre plot, I'm going to use winter rye this year but I'd like to get a brassica planting in next year after I fix the ph. Or should I just stick with winter rye and buckwheat rotation ?
Jeff do brassicas stop growing after the first frost of the growing season?
Jeff, What about spraying plotboost 30-45 days after germination as opposed to Urea? Would you use your ATV to spray or would that damage the plants??
What are you setting your spreader to for buckwheat and brassicas?
Hey Jeff, I'm doing my first food plot ever. I'm planting on a old cow pasture. Lots of tall grasses. I've sprayed and had a great kill but question, there are some spots where I can't even see the soil the grass has died a become very thick blanket of sorts. Will it be ok to broadcast the seed over top of that thick dead grass and thatch? Willl it work its way down into the Soil?
Thanks again! Keep up the amazing work!!
What sitting do you use in that spreader for the brassicas?
What was growing on this food plot before the buckwheat. Did you spray it before planting buckwheat
Do you rotate brassicas every other year? Due to bugs and nutrient deficiencies
do you put sand in youre packermax or just water? Just wondering how heavy I need to make it to pack efficiently.
My buckwheat is a lot taller it’s about 4-5’. Would I have to brush hog it first. At least cut the buckwheat down to the highest setting on my tractor? Or can I just broadcast and roll it down and spray it like you mentioned?
Brother is the Walmart stuff the brassica seed they got is it any count??
Is it better to do the till method if you can? Thanks for great vids again, Jeff.
I like the buckwheat no till the best because you conserve soil moisture, build the soil, avoid erosion and it gives the plots a great mulch layer for maximizing moisture opportunity and limiting weed growth. You eliminate a spraying of glyphosate too. Thanks again Eric!
Jeff i just got my buckwheat down. First year owning the property. First 2 months actually. Planning to plant the brassica blend from northwoods white tails later mid august.
First time doing food plots. Whats the best place for a non farmer to buy urea? And what specific product do you recommend?
When you say glyphosate, do you mean like a certain concentrated weed killer or just any product from stores with glyphosate in it?
Will a peas brassica mix work or should I split the plot up leavnig brassica stand alone?
Hi GD...I let it stand alone, typically. Here is what I do...
czcams.com/video/2sXngrC4-z0/video.html
Always better to split. I then add light oats to the peas on the other side of the plot, and then too dress with 200#s per acre of rye 4-6 weeks after, just on the oats and peas 1/2 of the plot.
The thumbnail for this video looked like a pile of jackalopes 😂
We tried this method this year but didn't have good luck. We tried it on a lawn area at home some of the soy beans grew not much for the brassica. Only about 5 percent germination we had. The other location. Was a old CRP field for 10 years. Mainly grass about knee to waist high. There was also golden rod and milk weed. We did kill it with the spray but almost a month later only about 10 percent germination at that site. Going to try to burn off the dead grass and disc or scratch up the ground and replant again. We planted it in early July both spots. About .25 acre each.
How tall was the buckwheat when you seeded and how did it work when you cuktpiacked the buckwheat over the seed? Also...just an FYI, that's about a month early to plant Brassica.
Curious tho on the height of the buckwheat...when you planted it...how it cuktpiacked for you...and when you sprayed after seeding the buckwheat.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks for the quick response. But I was not clear we didn't plant buckwheat. We just seeded and sprayed a lawn area plot one. And for plot 2 was and old CRP FIELD for about 20 years mainly grass and golden rod. I personally think the soy beans grew the best and the least amount of seeds. In Jefferson Wisconsin area. The lawn area is heavy clay grounds. We even tried to water the seeded lawn area for about 1 week with no improvement. Going to replant and disc or roto till these areas.
@@richdrotzer4313 hi Rich...wanted to make sure that it wasn't my method at all. You have to have bare soil...or buckwheat coverage in the case of the beans and peas. You then can expect full germination on everything. The peas and beans and to some extent the oats have to be covered by soil or a later of buckwheat, after being broadcast on full soil, under the buckwheat. Then the buckwheat has to be cultipacked over it. The Brassica can be planted this way, or thrown on open, bare soil after repeated glyphosate treatments. There are 2 links. The first is for the exact ultimate no till method...not steps can be altered or missed...the 2nd is for bare soil no till planting. I hope they help! Been doing it for nearly 2 decades with 100% success.
czcams.com/video/o7uPTcEL978/video.html
czcams.com/video/hSNY1y9D5Ug/video.html
Again tho...wanted to clarify for viewers the way you planted was not my ultimate method. You can't grow a plot like you attempted due to a variety of factors. I hope that makes sense...check out those videos and let me know what you think. Thanks for the feedback!
I live in Alabama and can’t seem to get the deer to eat brassica very well. Is there any one type you think they may like better than others or should I stick with a blend?
My plot of brassicas looks about like the field at 7:40, which doesn’t look nearly as far along as the massive Brasica leaves I see in other parts of the video. Any idea what the deal is? Is it normal? The dear seem to like the neighbors buckwheat and clover more. I Planted it in mid-late august and it’s Now mid october.
What brassica blend would you recommend for like on the border in northern Minnesota?
Definitely John Komps blend from www.northwoodswhitetails.com/
"Sweet Feast Brassica" blend
Jeff, is it beneficial to pack brassica seeds if my food plot is on somewhat of a slope? Love your channel brother.
Jeff could I get your opinion on trying this for my large food plot? My area allows me to do a one plus acre food plot max in the middle of my property. I was thinking of planting soybean in this plot. Since I am not able to fence it off I thought about broadcasting brassica into this plot in early August as I live in Minnesota and that way I can hopefully have some grain from the soybeans but the greens and bulbs come fall.
Do you think broadcasting brassica into soybeans later in the year and letting them grow together would work for this set up?
Wanna come give me some of ur advice for to small tracks I hunt
I need some recommendations. Im new to food plots. We have 30 acre farm in southern mi. And maybe 15 acres of that is ag field. We want to grow something but may only have and 1 or 2 acres to do so.. I like the brassica. Would that be something you would suggest for only and acre or 2
I am becoming obsessed now after seeing my 10, 11 ,12 pointer on video - he may have 12 now and I know he is 7 years old - I have him on video as a 3.5 year old.
I am going to set up a new ladder stand on him - how far away as a minimum should I be off of the deer trail assuming I can find a tree down wind that I can get in and out of without leaving a scent in the travel lanes ?
How do you keep snakes and other animals out?
Planted my 2 acre Brassica plot 2 weeks ago, 10 min north of Holmen and finally got rain! Where do you purchase your urea and winter rye in the La Crosse area?
rudys feed and seed in holmen has lots of stuff
Will this grow in woods? We had out woods logged and was wondering if this would be a good option
Id like to know that too. I have cleared some small woodland plots. I'm going to find out. Ill give it a try for this fall and find out. Wish I could answer that question now.
Jeff, how many pounds/acre of buckwheat and brassica?
Hi Scott! 50#s per acre of buckwheat. And for brassica it depends on the mix and what % of each brassica that's in it. Anywhere from 3 to 15#s of acre.
Did you mention pounds per acre for brassica blend?
Will this work on clay soil...we just bought a farm that's clay due to the owner before us in love with his Bulldozer.
Man it sure will Dillon!! In fact the clay holds moisture better and the seeds germinate faster than on light soil...sandy soil.
Also looks like after you sprayed do you left the dead weeds lay there so that probably helps it grow I am I correct Jeff
They sure do Scott...as long as the seed gets into the soil! For sure...
Whitetail Habitat Solutions And how will the seed get into the soil a downpour of rain I mean I do have a little spring tooth but sometimes if it was sod , there’s no way I can work it up with the spring to
Jeff I am confused on the Urea application. You said 75lbs per acre but then you said 50lbs would do 100 acres. Could you explain that a little more?
Whats up man? A good soil test will tell you. 50lbs wont do 100 acres. Spread urea right before a rain.
How do you spread urea on standing brassicas without damaging them?
I've always just walked thru and broadcast by hand...which is how I seed and fertilizer everything. Works great! Just a little over 2 full bags of Urea in an Earthway model 2750, per acre.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 ok thanks, i would just be scared to walk over my baby brassicas lol
I live in Arkansas. They came up well but the deer never touched them. What gives?
Depends on deer #s, other food in area, what was planted alongside (or not), if it had kale in it (least preferred brassica)...what mix it was...lots of factors!
How do you spell urea thing
Concerning Urea application, I've read that it will evaporate, unless it is applied in advance of a rain?
When applying Urea in a no-till plan will we lose Urea to evaporation if it is applied during a dry period?
Yes you will
How many # an Acre are you putting down for buckwheat cover crop again? We have been lucky with the rain here so far. My very first food plot is coming along nicely. Lots of beans and corn right next door. I expect they will be over on my plot(getting those tender greens!) when the moisture content of those AG crops drops down. Thanks again Jeff!
Thanks Jeremy and you are very welcome! I use 50#s per acre planted 7-8 weeks prior to the expected Summer planting...over the years that seems about perfect!
Where can I get the nitrogen stuff?
Its lime that puts nitrogen in the soil
So you actually sprayed it three times and made sure everything was dead and then you just throw the seeds out and you’re done maybe some fertilizer money is the issue here so I kind a like the No till idea. How do you get the seas to soil in the dirt without a small spring truth maybe
Isnt glyphosate roundup? Why are you guys using it so much?
Jeff,
I live in Michigan and hunt in the mid Michigan area just north of midland. I wanted your advice for this no till project I wanted to do this fall. The soil where I'm at is around a 5.2- 5.3 without any lime. I was going to cut the ferns and weeds down with a flail mower then spray the area, then spread Northwoods whitetails fall forage blend. I was also going to broadcast about 400lbs of pelletized lime. What is your advice? Great videos and I'm looking forward to seeing how you develop your 25 acres. Thanks Bob
Hey Bob. How big of a food plot you planting? I am over in the Farewell area.
@@markmethner8839 it's about 1/3 of an acre but the one end is shaped like a triangle (7500 sq ft) then it narrows down to about 20 yds wide and goes for about 125 yds long.
@@robertcurtis3670 the lime isn't going to help much this year. Not sure what is in the mix you want to plant. Focus on getting the soil Ph up as the top priority. I lime in spring and plant in fall. Plants can't absorb the fertilizer as well in acidic soil.
@@markmethner8839 I get all that regarding lime. I've already put 1200lbs out on my other plot. Hoping that the radishes, turnips and oats will b an excellent late season plot. The blend has cereal rye, winter wheat, oats, and forage peas. I'm trying to get this new plot going. I'm just hoping for about a 60% germination rate and I know I'll have to put out more fertilizer than normal. I'm hoping that some of the rye and wheat will help build the soil and get things going in the spring time. That's when I'll get a soil test and add the necessary lime cuz my goal is to turn that plot into a perennial clover plot.
@@robertcurtis3670 sounds good. I would get it planted for this year then and get ready to hunt. Good Luck. Got mine planted 2 weeks ago and coming in nice. Needed the rain that we got recently.
That spray killed that field big time.
Maybe you’ll get some rain soon brother.
Instead of cultipacking your plots, could you just run a brush cutter over it?
Well it was tilled just when u planted buckwheat
Huh?
Using that glyphosate makes me cringe. OK, for kudzu though.
I hope the weed killer doesn't give you cancer...
If it bothers you brother I say things bout THE LORD AND HIS MERCY AMEN let me know I’ll stop. I thank it’s not bothering you. I don’t want to run subs off your channel neither. Lots a atheists on here now. If I every say or do anything wrong feel free to tell me please.
Randle Richardson there are a lot of Christian believers that watch these channels. But stay in your lane. This is information about a sport. Yes it does encompass animals and land stewardship and it is easy for a Christian to want to speak out about Gods creation, but really, what are you accomplishing by bringing up religion on an outdoor hunting channel. Be thankful where it counts, in your heart. Do your thing in your everyday life and let people see your thankfulness. I firmly believe that the comment section of a CZcams channel is not the time and place. Jeff seems like a nice man and would probably never tell you to hold back., but as a fellow Christian I am recommending that you know your audience and respect these channels for what they are recreational/ educational videos.
Roy Guidry just didn’t want to offend anybody that’s all.
Terrible food plots mine look way better
i understand when you say you have clean grounds ,,,but i cant see anyone using pesticides for that many years and call your soil clean,,, glyphosate isnt any good for the environment , and i rather have a few weeds then contaminate my soil and water tables with glyphosate ,,,,what would be nice is a pesticide free environment where it doesn't have bad long term effect on nature your soil and your health
and if the seeds aren't affected by the glyphosate like you mentioned , it is because they are GMO seeds
the seeds have been Genetically Modified to withstand glyphosate (roundup), llike all our corn ,oats ,wheets etc.... and you wonder why health issues , cancers are wayyyyy higher then they ever were ???? we are what we eat
The glyphosate is likely less toxic than the mix of Kool aide that you drink 🤷♂️
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 since when is glyphosate safe to consume? its directly related to many health issues,,,all i'm saying is ,,,couldn't food plots be done without the use of pesticides,,witch are scientifically proven to not be healthy. bir companies like irving use glyphosate all over crown lands , and what they use it for is to stop the hardwoods from growing alowing the money trees to grow and then be cut down at a later date,,,,, you should see the efects of glyphosate on the rivers and streams,,, blue algea in many places now,,that's what pesticides do my friend.