Hooponopono A Tale Of Two Versions
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- In this tape, you will have an overview of Morrnah Simeona's original version of Ho'oponopono of problem solving, and that of Dr. Iheleakala Hew Len's reinvented version. The two versions are presented with their own voices to maintain objectivity. A summary of their differences is provided at the end of the video for easy reference.
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For me Dr. Len's version is easy and super handy to work on. I've seen miracles comie in my life after using his version. Mornah Simeona's version is very long for me, especially when I need to cleanse myself every hour. So I follow Dr. Len's version religiously.
I am glad that you've find a practice that can better your life.
Ap kaise karte ho iss prayer ko plz explain 🙏🏼
Dr Len explains all this too
I believe Morrnah's version is important for the foundation of an achievement within the identity of I. Dr. Hew Len is a short version That is useful in the moment. Be sure to establish a strong foundation within. I use both with great respect 🙏
My "problem" with Dr. Len and Joe Vitale, who's Zero Limits class I took, is that they did not give Morrnah any credit! The whole class felt "off" to me. After searching for the real ho'oponopono practice in 2020, I was pleased when I came across this. GRATITUDE 🙏 💙
16:39 BEST summary of how Ho'oponopono actually works! THANK YOU!
😍Thank you Mornah!!! What a great explanation of the process, it is much more in depth and detailed than what Dr. Len explained in previous videos.
Thank you for the explanatory lesson. It's rare to find this kind of report. I'm glad to Morrnah's teachings brought forward.
I practice Ho'oponopono personally and imperfectly, in Kona, on the Big Island of Hawai'i. It has made a significant change in my feelings and in my life.
Gracias, se agradece tan hermoso y aclarador trabajo, gracias infinitas, me encanto el material del canal, suscrita 🫶♾️✨✨✨✨
Thank you so much ❤🙏🙏🙏
Brilliant 👏 👏 👏
They are related family. I was a student of both.
They have different expressions that organically evolved with time to adapt. Ancient Hawaiian concepts, principles for today’s world. It’s a natural occurrence to evolve to transcend to a higher understanding . To evolve transcend to a higher consciousness of righteousness. PONO. Aloha.
I often come across of this "evolution" theory and have to say that there is no evolutionary relationship between the two versions. Hew Len took some of Morrnah's teachings (such as the three selves) and replaced the 12-step process with something totally different - cornflakes, strawberries, M&Ms... and other merchandises.
They are related family??? Please explain to me, I'm surprised, thank you
He never said that - he explains the relationship between versions.
Thank You ❤
Great work! Mahalo! ❤
Thank you!
Thank you! ❤
You're welcome 😊
Thank you 🙏🏻
Sorry for the late reply. Hope you enjoy this Channel.
very helpful ! thank you !
Thank you! I hope you enjoy this Channel.
Thank you ❤🎉
Sorry for the late reply. Hope you enjoy this Channel.
Hew len in one of my spiritual guides now 😊
Hello.
Thank you so much on showing us this clip and explaining Ho'oponopono the 2 versions.
I have been practicing Ho'oponopono for over 3yrs now, and just wanted to clarify does the 4 phrases of Dr hew Len still work as the same as Morrnah Simeona's method.
I feel a bit confused now which way to practice Ho'oponopono.
I like Dr hew len and Morrnah Simeona's Ho'oponopono.
I would be very grateful if you could put more clips of Morrnah Simeona's teachings as it is very rare to find her real voice teachings on Ho'oponopono.
Thank you so much.
Sorry for the late reply. Hope you enjoy this Channel.
Both work, I use both, I have immense respect for both of them!
Dr. Hew Len and Joe Vitale introduced me to this concept, but the way that Mornah Simenona explains Ho’oponopono really speaks the my soul.
Yes, it does seem more complicated, but then again, Dr. Hew Len’s version seems overly simplified. And yeah, I get why it is, but I wish more people would be receptive to a more nuanced version of this practice
Thank you for helping to shed light on this topic. 💙
As far as I know, any serious spiritual practice requires some level of efforts and devotion.
@@Morrnah_Hooponopono the process has evolved since inception.. if you ever taken a sith class you would see that... a lot of new information has been brought via channeling the I and morrhah..... i took at least 20 some classes and staffed a bunch..... its all the same process though... :-)
I love to learn tis how can i go about?
Here is the link to the 12-step: www.scribd.com/doc/203992201/Ho-Oponopono. You can sign up with Scribd using their free trial.
But before you begin the practice, you should know the concepts. I recommend Michael Micklei's book The Coronation of Consciousness.
Michael's book is a self-study course. If you need an instructor, you can also take an online Basic I course with IZI: www.self-i-dentity-through-hooponopono.com/learn-self-i-dentity-through-hooponopono/
Please note that the prayers in Michael's book are not Morrnah's original version. You can use the prayers in the 12-step document for which I provide you with the link.
Please also note that the "cleaning tools" taught by the IZI teachers are not Morrnah's original teaching.
I think Dr Hew len’s teaching is more more simple and anyone can do it
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, both Dr. Len's method and Morrnah's method can be done by anyone. Dr. Len's mantra is shorter but it doesn't have the other important steps that Morrnah taught. They are not the same.
Exactly!!!
@@Morrnah_Hooponopono Never felt like it. Dr. Len's version is concise and equally effective. Also Morrnah's blessings and approval is with Dr. Len, hence I totally confide in Dr. Len's version.
Whichever version works for you is fine, but please don't think Dr. Len's version was approved by Morrnah. His version came out after Morrnah's passing away.
I have a question regarding Monrrnah simeona’s prayer
If i my family , relatives, ancestors has offended you your family relatives and ancestors
You mean divine right then
Your family relatives and ancestors who are they divine’s family?? I didn’t get it
Sorry for the late reply. You have quoted the mutual forgiveness prayer. So the "you, your family, relatives and ancestors" refer to the people you are doing the Ho'oponopono with. For example, if you want to do a Ho'oponopono with your boss, the "you" would be your boss.
@@Morrnah_Hooponoponoif we work on an issue, for example a health issue like back pain, we don’t know who we work with. Do we still use this prayer?
Yes you can. Please email me at morrnahteaching@gmail.com for further details.
Mornnah says on Ho opnopono process petition goes from conscious mind to subconscious mind , from subconscious to higher consciousness and it’s going to divine for cleansing is it right
So what’s happening is someone subconscious mind is stubborn or not cooperating when they do Ho opnopono prayer is subconscious mind is sending petitions to super conscious
Correct. The subconscious mind plays a key role in connecting with the high self. That's why showing love and care for the subconscious mind in a patient and gentle manner is so important. Integrating the three selves is the goal of practicing Ho'oponopono so that one can be in harmony and balance with oneself.
I want to learn the original version. Is there a special video, course? I like Dr. Len's version, but would like to be knowledge about both. I have heard of some 12/14 step method.
I have published a video on how you can learn the original version.
Steve, I would just like to share my thanks and gratitude with you for sharing these wonderful videos as well as sharing some of your own stories.
I'm very grateful. If it's possible, I would like to ask you some questions about Morrnah's 12 steps for some challenges in my own life? 🙏🏻😊
I am not a qualified teacher of Ho'oponopono. I can share what I think I know. Please email me at morrnahteaching@gmail.com
@@Morrnah_Hooponopono Hi Steve, thank you so much. 🙏🏻
can I practise hooponopono in any language?
Sure you can, if you have the prayers in your language.
I am doing hopnono from 2 years ....but from last six months i am doing very seriously...but not seeing any much changes in my family relations...why is it so...i just repeat i am sorry please forgive me thank uu and i love uu.....many people share muracouls results then why i am not seeing anything is i am doing anything wrong....pls help
I am not in a position to say whether you are doing the mantra correctly or not. However, if after six months of practicing and there is no result, I would find something else that may suit you and your situation better. Personally, the mantra didn't help me better my relationship with my son. So I switched to Morrnah's 12-step Ho'oponopono, which serves me a lot better.
@@Morrnah_Hooponopono thank uu so much for your reply
I had practiced Dr Hew Len's version initially and seen great results for trivial issues. But afterwards it stopped working for like 3 months. Then I started practicing Mornah's version of Ho'oponopono. I haven't noticed any changes but the people I know have seen this difference.
I have the book from MIchael MIcklei : The Coronation of Consciousness...is this original Mornah Simeona prayer or not?
No, the steps and prayers in Michael Micklei's book are not the original version by Morrnah Simeona. You can download the original version with this link: www.scribd.com/doc/203992201/Ho-Oponopono
@@Morrnah_Hooponoponohola, la versión original? , michael micklei dice ser la última actualización de Morrnah? Y la original dice ser la de SITH? La de éste enlace , de quién es? De que año de Morrnah? Explíquenme por favor 🙌 estoy confundida 😮 Gracias
@karenugarteX despite Michael's claim, I really don't believe his version is the "final version" of Morrnah's Ho'oponopono. The version in my download link is what Morrnah used for her classes.
Hello. I am Vietnamese. My name is Thao, and I have been practicing ho'oponopono for 2 years. and in Dr. Hewlwen's way. I'm not good at English and hope you will understand what I write, in my country how to practice ho'oponopono in Dr. Hewlen's way because there is no documentation and language restrictions. I want to learn Mrs. Hewlwn's 12 steps. I hope the letter reaches you, respectfully and gratefully
Hi Thao, I don't know if Hew Len taught the 12 steps created by Morrnah Simeona after she died. However, if you are interested in Morrnah's 12 steps, please refer to my recent video: czcams.com/video/taLoasnXWlo/video.html
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17:05 It would seem that what Dr. Len brings us is a very condensed version of the original 12-step process.
Yes, according to a Ho'oponopono teacher, he did say that the mantra is faster. But I wouldn't call his mantra a condensed version of the 12 steps. The mantra is a petitioning step, but it misses all the other important steps that go with the petitioning.
Did Morrnah teach about inner child healing ?
@user-ee9qvfm2j The Self I-Dentity Through Ho'oponopono method puts a lot of emphasis on the mother-child relationship. The inner child healing meditations circulating on CZcams are only part of the work to foster the relationship, according to Morrnah's teachings.
pode colocar a oração da purificação aqui? obrigada
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You can download the prayers here: www.scribd.com/doc/203992201/Ho-Oponopono
29:13 Does anyone know if within Dr. Len's teachings he also taught his students the 12 steps of Mornah Simeona's Ho'opopopono?
Dr. Len used to teach the 12 steps. I believe he's a lifelong teacher certified by IZI LLC. I think since he invented his mantra, he no long taught the 12 steps. I haven't heard him saying the mantra and the 12 steps were complementary.
Hello. Yes! I have taken Self-Identity Through Ho’oponopono seminar and it was the main and important part of the seminar.
From a comment on an article:
"Morrnah gave him this kind of order to do so (and at that time he worked really for the good to help Morrnah for her special spiritual job) and in classes, we both attended between Nov. 86 and later, Dr. Len was always telling in detail at the beginning that he was doing exactly this, nothing else. NO mantra was mentioned, never. At that time, Dr. Len was a student of Morrnah like me, so why and how could he use a quite different way in the hospital - and at the weekend in classes he said the opposite? Morrnah was also complex clairvoyant, she could see and hear everything.
All so called tools of Dr. Len (except 2 or 3) were developped by Dr. Len after 1992, which are only temporarily harmonizing or calming down - NOT cleansing, NOT being any ho’oponopono, as they are not mutual. They are (powerful) magic tools. They are not bad in itsself, but they block people to learn authentic ho’oponoponos - traditional ones or the one of Morrnah. People like those easy magic ways, they really think to heal karmic stuff of hundreds and more reincarnations by 11 words.
It is clearly the good part of Joe Vitale’s job to spread the name of ho’oponopono from the time of “Zero limits” across the world - but the illusion is inclusive: people know the name, but did not hear about the real content of ho’oponopono or even forget it. Pls keep in mind Dr. Len’s words (received by his divinity) in Zero Limits: “I’ve been told to kill the Divine to be home.” To kill the Divine? Well, starting to take him out from the cleansing. This does not seem a path up to the mountain.
I like the short version but Dr. Len is really out there calling corn and M&M cleaning tools. I do not have a time to do the 12 step program. Every word has a vibration a frequency so saying words I am sorry please forgive me, Thank you I love repeatedly changes things in your subconcious mind for the better. Now you have better programming thus you have a better life. So i do it.
It's great if the short version works for you! What sets Morrnah's Ho'oponopono apart from mantras, positive thinking, visualization, etc., is the integration of our three selves, without which we'll always be out of balance, no matter how peaceful you feel subconsciously because the feeling is only temporary. The short version acknowledges the three selves but doesn't provide a method to integrate them. So, there is a danger of modifying a spiritual teaching without providing a path for the followers.
How do you know on the effectiveness of this process based on differences between Ms.Mornah and Hew Len? I am just curious.
The purpose of this video is to show the differences between the two versions, both are known as "Ho'oponopono". I have practiced both versions and would like the audience to have a choice how they want to practice and solve their problems.
@@Morrnah_Hooponopono Has Mornah's version worked better
Yes, Morrnah's version works wonders for me personally. Please refer to this video: czcams.com/video/8UOpyTatz8Q/video.html
This was really vital information to get out and I could barely get past the first part of the automated voice recording not pronouncing ho’oponopono correctly. I’m curious why it was chosen to be presented in this way. This has been part of the problem in our society, with the dilution of the original message people teaching it that don’t pronounce it correctly and here we have an otherwise good video and resource tainted by the robotic voice mispronouncing the core of what ho’oponopono is. Ironic.
Point well taken. I have my own reasons for choosing to use an AI voice, which I know is far from perfect. Please ignore the narrative and focus on the voices of Morrnah and Hew Len. I tried to let them speak for themselves.
Mornah is the person who updated the process to Self Identity Through Ho'ponopono. She was inspired to do so and it became an individual process. Dr Hew Len was her student and he followed her instruction. So this Mornah video is an older outdated process.
Facts: The Morrnah recording in this video was 1980. Hew Len's recording was 2006. Hew Len followed Morrnah's teachings and process until after she passed away in 1992. After that, Hew Len invented his own version. There is no question of "outdated process". The two versions are simply DIFFERENT.
search the website Self Identity Through Ho'oponopono and it states - SITH is an updated Hawaiian problem solving process to release memories that are experienced as problems. SITH was developed by Morrnah Nalamaku Simeona, a Hawaiian Kahuna Lapa'au. She was recognized in Hawaii as a Living Treasure of Hawaii in 1983.
Thank you@@Morrnah_Hooponopono
I have a lot of cognitive issues happening, I am trying to understand this master concepts, but am getting confused, overwhelmed and helpless. What are the 12 steps? I am so dissapointed to hear the reference of the other technique being fake
You are not alone :-) I recommend Michael Micklei's book The Coronation of Consciousness. mickleimedia.de/en/product/the-coronation-of-consciousness-3-in-1/ This book gives you the concepts of Morrnah's Ho'oponopono. For her original 12-step process, please email morrnahteaching@gmail.com
Does anyone know of Mornah herself was completely right? It's just faith like believing what you put your faith in. No one can ascertain the veracity of The Bible. We just believe.
The proof is in the pudding. I'll say no more.
No disrespect to Ho'oponopono traditional way
My belief is that when a problem shows up in your mind you need to deal with it 24/7 and that's where Dr hew lens updated method works better in today's time.
I am glad that you've found something that works for you. There is no need to judge which way is better. Each one would have a different journey. Personally I've found Hew Len's method is not very useful.
@@Morrnah_Hooponopono
Thank you for your reply.
Would you be able to explain the reason why Dr hew lens method is not very useful.
I would be very interested as I have a open mind and always searching for the truth that will help me.
The only reason I liked Dr hew lens method is that it was easy to practice but if it does not work correctly please help if you can.
Again, my own experience applies only to myself. I don't believe a mantra of any kind is sufficient to solve your life issues. It doesn't seem like the mantra had worked for Hew Len himself. That's just my opinion. Your own experience is more relevant and important for you. You can also research the effectiveness of "mantras" in general and come to your own conclusion.
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Thank you for your time to reply to me.
I appreciate your
advice on your information.
Thank you.
Dear body I am sorry please forgive me thank you I love you
I prefer Morrnah's version...
I feel there's no point of comparing these two versions. Both versions are beautiful and effective... there's no point of this video.
The point of this video is to illustrate the differences of the two versions with no intention of comparing. Many people thought there is only Dr. Hew Len's version and are not aware of the original version by Morrnah.
With no intention of comparing their effectiveness
I totally agree. I believe it misses the entire point of ho'oponopono to make comparisons. Just get to the cleaning!
one from the heart, the others from their egos is how this feels to me. man-splaining gets so tiresome...."humbly, humbly, humbly" seems to have been left out of newer versions
Isnt it AI narrating? Its NOT a person.
My only question is: Are you, the owner of this youtube channel, in any way connected to James Vinson Wingo? In one of your other clips, you linked to a pdf (co-)written by him. If so, I seriously doubt the validity of the "facts" you're stating in the video. Dr. Len taught both processes, for instance.
@omchi888 No, I am not associated with Dr. Wingo. The 12 steps in the PDF are Morrnah's teaching, the same ones in the Basic I class manual. I cannot distribute the class manual due to copyright issues. Just to clarify, Morrnah's Basic I and II manuals were published by her Pacifica Seminars organization. Now it's published by IZI LLC formed by Hew Len. "Dr Len taught both processes" - yes, someone who took Hew Len's class back in 2012 told me that he did read through the 12 steps with little explanation. He also omitted the all-important "questionnaire". The rest of the class was about the mantras. If that's the case, you would not be able to practice Morrnah's method properly. I am sure Hew Len would have agreed.
If anyone knows where I can find video footages on how Hew Len taught the 12 steps, please let me know. Such footages are greatly appreciated. I haven't come across such footages on the internet. What I could find are all about his mantras and his 100% responsibility talks.
Kash ! Hindi mai hota .
God help me more Ai mispronouncing words
I’m really getting this now.. what’s going on in ME, taking responsibility 🫶🏾