Penn Station to Newark - a track perspective - UNDER the Hudson River.
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2018
- Shows the track view from the rear of an Amtrak train traveling from Penn Station in New York City to Newark, NJ behind an Amtrak Train on a cold and snow covered winter day March 22, 2018. Includes views of the Manhattan skyline. Provides a sense for the speed, power, and time it takes to travel between these two points, and a view of the inside of the Hudson Tunnels and Penn Station at track level. Shot with an ipad Mini.
In August 1984 , I rode the Silver Meteor from NYC to Florida. I was speaking with an off duty engineer while I waited on the platform next to my train. He told me he would get me a ride in the cab of E60 # 950. And he did ! He told my engineer I was a railfan and to let me ride up front. I couldn't believe it , in 1984 stuff like this still happened. I rode as far as Newark because I didn't bring any more film with me. It was in my luggage in the Amfleet coach. I do have a few Polaroids but as you can imagine , they are a bit dark being in the tunnel and it was an overcast afternoon.
Great video.
It looks like one of the deteriorating 100-year-old cast iron tunnels that engineers are worried about. I'd be worried, too! Those tunnels need to be replaced ASAP.
Yep, only in America. But we spend trillions on other things🙄 Even if they were not deteriorating the tunnels are way over capacity, only 2 tunnels between Manhattan and the US mainland, they are shared by two large railroads
Now that there is a change in administration at the Federal level hopefully we can start investing more in infrastructure particularly in the NYC metro area.
@@tjr4459 don't count on it.
@@tjr4459 keep dreaming with the pandmic it simply wont happen money is needed everywhere else
@@NickyD unfortunately you’re right, America is broken. The supposedly richest country in the world can’t get sh*t done.
I now have my own virtual train set. Put that under my tree. Thank you. High fives.
Thanks for the video! I see trains by route 3 and route 1& 9 entering and exiting the Western portal all the time, and I always wanted to take a ride through that tunnel. So cool!!
> 5:53 < western portal, routes US 1&9
Awesome video was just thru the tunnel on the silver meteor last month Oct 14 and 22 definitely claustrophobic looking at that Narrow tunnel
i love this video
I thought there were more tracks heading into the portal at the start of the Hudson River tube in New Jersey to Penn Station. Only two tracks? One northbound the other southbound? Hmmmm. Interesting.
Yeah it causes a mess pretty much every rush hour
Yep, it's one of the biggest bottlenecks on the entire northeast corridor. Adding two more is a huge priority, since as of now the existing ones CANNOT be shut down for maintenance.
@@KingdaToro and that maintenance is overdue
@@finnzweitname5905 Exactly, which is why this project is so urgent.
@@KingdaToro yet the project was cancelled over a year or two years ago budget reasons
If you want to see the sorriest tunnel in NYC, that would be the Steinway tubes on the #7.
That’s the only train journey I have ever taken on a US railroad. Penn station was disappointingly grotty. The train did have functional air con which was a blessing as it was 104 F outside.
They just upgraded it
The original Penn station was an architectural treasure. In spite of a massive campaign to save the station, it was torn down to build Madison Square Garden. Which is another dump.
Great views of the NYC skyline.
7:27 Years ago, near here, an NJ Transit train into New York often would need to pause, waiting for clearance into the open track in Penn Station.
Now that train simply would hold longer in Secaucus Station, while awaiting clearance into the tunnel and Penn Station.
Look at all the trains heading int NY, waiting to squeeze themselves into that skinny tunnel. I imagine the new Hudson Gateway tunnels would be in operation today if Gov. Christie had not stopped them.
5:50 - An Amtrak train going into New York City Penn Station.
Cool video
What train was this taken from? Time of day? Great video! Thanks
This looks like it was taken from 12 to 5 pm
from the 'cab' of another Amtrak regional train?
5:48 When you use you’re mom’s phone
Beats driving!
I thought these tunnels were super deteriorated and you can't just blast through them at 50 mph?
After seeing daylight or electric lights out the window, I want to be through that underwater dark tunnel as soon as possible.
At 8:35 you can see the decrepit Portal Bridge, currently being replaced.
In Japan, that trip would have taken about 3 minutes, and you wouldn't be wondering what kind of ooze just glued you to the floor.
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8:44 Same railroad, opposite view :
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... about 53 years before
Think of it. EVERYTHING we see was built by the PRR without, as far as I know a scintilla of government money. Contrast that with the "hat-in-hand" pleading and begging by NYS and NJ government officials to the federal government to bail out the construction costs of a new tunnel. If a 3rd tunnel is so important to "commerce" in the metropolitan area, then let "commerce" foot the bill. If "commerce" is concerned about getting employees to and from work, then "commerce" ought to be at the forefront of the construction effort. NOT NYS, NJ or the federal government.
You do realize that EVERYTHING we see was built 110 years ago? Back when there was money in passenger rail service, back when the Pennsylvania Railroad was one of the biggest companies on the planet. That same company fell into bankruptcy and had to sell it's beautiful station building above these tracks because even the once mighty Penncy was failing. There wasn't enough money left in passenger service, not after airplanes and cars. You should think of the current passenger system in the Northeast as another interstate highway. The government pays for roads, bridges, airports, etc because those things are vital to the functioning of a modern city. Penn Station is still vital to the functioning of the Northeast, especially NY and NJ, but that doesn't mean there's big money in it like 110 years ago.
I don't think you realise that the Pennsy was at one point, the largest corporation in the world, earning more money than the federal government, through the virtue of having a quasi-TOTAL MONOPOLY on goods and passenger transportation in the largest industrial region in the world at the time, the north east. The Pennsy didn't become big and mighty because of free markets, but through its exorbitant monopoly, rentierism and extortion (read up about the pinkerton)..Your stupid free market ideology can't take into account the fact that almost all mainline and commuter rail operations thoughout the world have been nationalized since the great depression/WW2. Amtrak was created because without it, the entire northeast region would grind to a halt. NY needs the commuters to come using rail as there is no space for new highways and NJ needs the tax income brought in by NJ residents that work in NY.
@@Odin029 is right, it should be like @Cats01 says but the government was less than 5% of GDP 110 years ago. We don’t have free market capitalism in the US anymore, we have corporate socialism (very close to fascism), the government is nearly 50% of GDP. The European, Japanese and Chinese governments built high speed rail for the same reason the US government built the interstate system.
@@Anewuser_6282 China also built their version of an interstate highway system along with high speed rail networks. There are a lot of problems building high speed rail in the US no matter how bad I want one. The population centers are too spread out and only a few cities in the US are as densely populated as areas in Europe, Japan, and China. Then there's acquiring land. In much of Europe and most of the Japan, the US and Britain were nice enough to rearrange the layouts of their cities and countryside for them. Finding space for large new projects was much easier in the 50s, 60s, and even into the 70s after that rearranging period in the 40s. China is a different story since they have very strong imminent domain laws there.
I don't want to jump too deep into this well but, pure free market capitalism is one of the reasons the Pennsylvania Railroad went out of business. They basically built their tracks to the same places as the New York Central side by side in some cases. That's great to one up the other guy. It's horrible the efficient use of resources for a national railroad system. The same thing happened all over the country. Eventually the companies ate each other's profits and either the government stepped in or the US would have been left with a crumbling rail network all over the country. The only large railroad company that managed to keep itself healthy was the Union Pacific. All the others were on the brink of collapse by the mid 1970s. Free market capitalism is great, but it's not heaven sent. It's got problems too and what happened to the railroad companies in the US is a very good illustration of the limitations of a pure free market system. The US government stepped in and basically created a very few large companies that controlled track in different parts of the country and then regulated where new track could be laid. So now the US has very healthy rail companies again that publicly traded, but those companies didn't create and organize themselves... except for UP.
The old Pennsylvania Railroad ultimately had to be subsidized by the GOVERNMENT the same as airlines today. By 1960, the PRR was on its way to bankruptcy and nothing, not even merging with the New York Central, could save it. Ultimately, the subsidies began going to the airline industry and the railroads were left to rot on the vine. THAT's why the GOVERNMENT had to step in, because without the GOVERNMENT "commerce" would not have had the money to save passenger rail on its own. The PRR had to borrow massive amounts of money to build those tunnels, not only under the Hudson River, but also under the East River, not to mention the bridges across the Hackensack, Passaic and Raritan in New Jersey, the Schuykill (sic) in Pennsylvania, another in Delaware, plus a tunnel that runs underneath parts of Baltimore. And I don't know how many bridges and other tunnels clear up to Boston. We won't even talk about all of the train stations, large and small, that were also built on BORROWED money. The Pennsy was in debt from day one, like a great many of these giant corporations. Bottom line, there is no American Commerce without American GOVERNMENT. Period. End of story.