Nandi in waiting of Mahadev in Goa | Mahadev Temple, Chandor |Sacred Stories with Sawani Shetye
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- Chandor, or Chandrapur, was the first known capital of Goa and was initially ruled by kingdoms such as the Bhoja, Kadamba, and Chalukya. This fortified city has also been devastated by invaders such as Malik Kafur's army and later by Portuguese missionaries.
Chandor's stories of anguish and scars are still told through archaeological artefacts and Musal Khel's legacy.
Learn more about the great dynasties, battles, and archaeological discoveries in this episode of Sacred Stories with Sawani.
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Frequently I had seen the 'beheaded' Nandi in so many FB posts and Insta reels ... but it was such an eye-opener to get to know the history behind this place. Thanks for that. Its really appreciated, the effort which has gone into recording this episode barefoot ... in a temple of our ancestors. Really appreciated. Valor tumka.
Thank you Sachin Bab. Comments like these make my efforts worthwhile. Do share the video with your friends too
I am from Delhi and for the last twenty six years I alongwith my wife drive motorbike from Benaulim to Chandor and also visit these remains of temple and Nandi Maharaj. It was fascinating to read history of Chandor written on this site by Archaelogical Survey of India .
Aarossim village in Salcere taluka was once ruled by king Arusu , an Andhra king.
Last visit was in Jan of this year.
For the first time we saw a wild bison domesticated and tied with a long rope in ruins of mandir area .Now we are 70/64+.
Generally , people in Goa associate its history with arrival of Portugese and some of them wrongly introduce themselves as " Portugese Goan " .
It is good endevour to to trace archaelogical roots of Goa ,bring it to world in such elaborate and pain staking manner.
Sawani, you’re immense contribution to Goa and Sanatan Dharm is commendable. Jai Shree Ram.
Thank you so much. May I get more strength to promote our real history of Goa. 🙏 Jai Shree Ram
Good attempt to bring the ancient culture of Goa to the knowledge of young generation with archaeological discoveries👍
Thank you sir
Thank you for bringing this story out. Got a chance to visit this place in March 2020. This heritage needs to reach to people.
Do share this video with your friends too :)
Thank you for clarifying about the multiple references of the "Bhoj Dynasty".
yes sir a lot of people think this is the same Kaha Raja Bhoj, Kaha Gangu Teli one
The daughter we are utmost proud of, we are glad that you have taken up the responsibility to bring out the facts of Goa. I am thankful to you in all ways 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you so much ☺️
Thank you for presenting a new viewpoint to look at Goa .
Thank you so much. Trying my best to show real Goa to the world
@@sawanishetye got to know you came to kashi , you should have done a meet-up.
Namaste savani ji, I am nitin naik , my caste is RAM KSHATRIYA, I am konkani speaking, my ancestors were from BALLI in goa, they migrated in 1790's, because of the Portuguese religious oppression, my family diety is in BALLI, her name is BHOOTBAAYE MAHMMAI, please do one episode maam.
Will try to do someday .
Thank u, I appreciate, I also want to add that my family diety is on the grazing lands, I mean we call it BYAAN in konkani it's seperate, otherwise u will find all the temples in one cluster , I mean family diety temples, mine has been there as I mentioned above since as it was in its original stage, thanks🙏
Hm😇😇😇
Nandi😢... How magnificent thet temple must be there😢😢😭
Can a new templd be rebuilt of similar style on such place?
Archeologically? Scientifically is it advisable?
Not really, there are complications in policy and rules. We are planning to do a specific video on this topic someday,
@@sawanishetye Thank you very much. It's very important information. You are making Archeology so simpler for us but it's very complex and involves multiple stakeholders,laws and Authorities also..not only History, Iconography and Architecture...👍👍
Behna apko पहले वाद पर सुना amged to see you। हमेशा से मुझे गोवा को ले के क्यूरिसिटी रहती थी की जैसा लोग गोवा को लेके सोचते है वैसा नही हैं आपको सुनने के बाद मन को बहुत शांति मिली। कितना रिच कल्चर है हमारा गोवा। लोगो ने गोवा को एक एंजॉय हेविंग heavy liquor shop around night party etc। Pls keep it बहना। महादेव आपको हमेशा नेगेटिव एनर्जी से दूर रखें।
Thx
Stay safe
जय सनातन धर्म।।
Thank you so much for your efforts, we want to see more such videos please , thank you once again.
More to come!
Very nice, awesome work towards our roots and culture. Truly educated and modern but yes beautiful without being Western!!!
Thanks a lot Sawani Shetye you are doing a great job of exploring the great cultural heritage of GOYA. AMCHE GOYA.
Thank you so much 😊
I went to this place after watching your video... Thank you so much
Im glad this video was helpful. Do share
You are truly using your knowledge and speaking Specific Facts to Emphasize out History..The Truth...
It's very very Powerful 🙏🙏
We are very proud of you 🙏🙏
सावनी जी, अत्यंत उत्कर्ष वीडियो....इस प्रयास को हिंदी भाषा या मराठी भाषा में भी प्रस्तुत करे....आप जैसी मातृशक्ति।इस सनातन भारत वर्ष में होगी तो कोई।भी भारत वर्ष में से सनातन धर्म को नही समाप्त कर सकता
Hare Krishna 😊🙏💐
Very very nice Sawani
Thank you so much 😊
And it was too hot. Bhajtale pay
Hai go
Great sharing and effort. Very common for invaders whether Muslim or Christian to claim that civilization only brought by them after killing millions of Hindus and destroying our temples. Thank you, Sawani.
Very nice good information.
Thank you so much. Do share
Good job madam, nice information
Of Chandrapur. Keep it up....
Thanks a lot
Hey, very nice and informative video! Whenever I roam around in Goa seen Tulsi in almost Hindu houses and nice temples which indicates about Goa’s rich history, culture and Hinduism. Always wondered how’s Goa lost their real heritage pride. Even I have seen some christian rituals people performing here clearly looks like inspired from Hindu culture. Which also indicates roots of Goa.
Har har mahadev 🙏🏼
Jay shree ram 🙏🏼
Jay shree krishna 🙏🏼
Great Indian Heritage 🙏
Very informative and interesting
Thank you tai
A really informative video as always!👏
Thank you so much
Superb ! Informative !
Detailed information.....
Historical references so apt....
Keep up the good work !!
Thank you sir for appreciating. Do share with your friends and family so we can spread the true story of Goa
Proud to have a girl like you and appreciate your way of using knowledge + education + technology!
Great work for माँ भारती!
dhanyavaad, Kuch dino ke baad hindi aur marathi me bhi videos banaungi
हम आपको रनवीर और वाद चैनल पर सुन चुके हैं बहुत ही उत्तम ज्ञान
Now that's a dept info..
Thank you so much. Do checkout other videos and podcasts...
I respect you madam
Thank you 😊
Very nice Sawani❤
Thank you Avanti Didi
Well I m.Goan n no one can say no temples were not there. Goa has reach in culture n heritage. Of course Portuguese era converted many goans to Christianity some run away to Maharashtra n karnataka. Chandor is special for goans.
Hi savani, our kuldevi was in qurtorim known as kudtheri mahamaya. History tells it was later shifted to ghudo, Paroda. Please throw some light on the subject. Thank you
Thank you for this informative and detailed video.
There is a mention of Vasouarazu (Basava-raju) temple in Chandor that was destroyed by the Portuguese in Boletim Do Instituto Vasco Da Gama No. 68 - 1952 - page 43. Basava in Kannada means a bull, Nandi. I am not sure if it is the same temple that is referenced in the Portuguese records.
Detailed information and facts👍
On point references…excellent
Thank you so much. Trying my best to share real history of Goa
Very Good work..👌👌
Thanks a lot 😊
I visited this place in the month of Feb 23, to see Kadamba Dynasty remains and importance of Khushvati river as I learn that Kadamaba's were trader having big ship which were travel in this river. If I am right pl put some light.
I am planning to do another video with an expert on the Naval Trade of Kadambas with a subject expert. :) Thank you for watching the video and sharing your observations too
This is great piece of information. Dhanya zaale. I am doing a research on this. If there are any articles around Portuguese inquisition written by them would help to establish more such connections. Kindly let me know if I can connect on this topic 🙏
This video is a tight slap for those who praise Portugese
Yes. Truth must prevail
Awesome video. Very enlightening!
Thank you so much. Do share
बिटिया रानी आपको बहुत बहुत बधाई आपके ज्ञान और यूट्यूब चैनल के लिए,
बेटी हम आप से प्रार्थना करना चाहते हैं कि आप अपनी हिस्ट्री विडियो को हिंदी भाषा में बनाए इससे ज्यादा लोग तक पहुंच होगी और आप को सब्सक्रिप्शन का लाभ भी मिलेगा 🙏
पहले हिंदी कैमरा के आगे बोलने का आत्मविश्वास नही था , और viewers हर प्रदेश से थे तो english मे शुरुवात किया था, अभी इस चॅनेल के बाद एक हिंदी या मराठी चॅनेल का सोच रहे है!
जी बेटा मेरी शुभकामना हिंदी के लिए, बेटा मैं भी गोवा के फोंडा और वास्को में ८ साल तक रहा हूं और हम शिपयार्ड में कांट्रेक्टर थे 🙏
Amazing work Sawani, this is our cultural and historic treasure.
Even today there are temple ruins , for example Hindu temples have a pond ( or temple tank if that's the correct term) right ? Even in one Salcette village there is such a huge built up pond right in front of a Chapel ! And it looks ancient ( the pond) , which made me wonder it was most likely a temple tank.
Fascinating video. I had the distinct impression that Ms Sawani is scrupulous about reconstituting archeological sites based on facts, as far as it is possible, and complementing that with written records and oral traditions. The other part of this video I liked is to see how the original Hindu traditions are observed to this day by the Christian community; an unbroken thread of centuries old Hindu rituals and customs has survived the past five centuries to the modern times, in an extraordinary and inspiring expression that the Divine is One.
It is my responsibility to present the facts with great care and strong research with facts. I try to do background research and for this video we have tried to add pics from books as well. Thank you for appreciating sir.
Very good information goa history
Thank you
Barefooted inside the shrines of the temple🙏🏻Respect🙏🏻
Good work....
Keep it up...
Story of a mixed culture goans were partly responsible for inviting the Portuguese just as happened in panipat with Marathas and British in calcutta our history has had so many gaddars who back stabbed each other and invited foreign domination first look within look at the politics of division caste and religion and language
great story
Thank you. Do visit the place
My Goa My Pride ❤❤
Sawani ji you are just like my grand daughter,i pray for. Your good health. May all might keep your interest in archaeology intact and you discover some of those pious places hidden till now.
Inspiring information
Thank you
Nice... Informative video 👌👍
Thanks a lot
Roman catholic kshatriya couldn't have heard more oxymoron thing than this. i don't know how they look into the mirror knowing the conversion and proselitisation their ancestors went through and still practising the religion of the perpetrators. Anyway best wishes to you Didi. I am a civil servant aspirant and this vedio was enriching. Har Har mahadev 🕉️🙏
Nice information
Thanks
A very historical village of goa
Yes sir.
This is Indian heritage ✨
👍🏻 Yes, Goa is full of rich cultural heritage
Not sure about this but.. if you check out the Fernandez house in chandor.. you will find the elements of old hindu architecture house on which the Portuguese style mansion is built. Its probably due to the house belonging to the head man or someone important. It has traces to a typical bhramanical house.
They were Kshatriya, later converted. They call themselves as Kshatriyas till today
I have heard about the curse of the kadamba queen. Can you give information about that?
Yes, it’s a legend. Will do it in some other episode.
I wanted to cover it in this episode but it would have been too long
Please provide lyrics of musal dance
I feel connected with your voice
Thank you 🙏
Nice ❤
Thank you
Mam very nice information ekda amcha ambabai mandir la pn yaa na😊
Kolhapur?
Why wasnt an attempt made to rebuild this temple
It’s under ASI, and a temple dedicated to the deity is built on the other side of the river
Didi ek Marathi video pn banva na tumchi mahiti khup uttam aste ek fan request
Please mention Christian Portuguese.
What's the meaning of Christian portuguese?
Hi.. Madem... This.. Temple.. Is.. Moon.. God.. Temple.. Ok
ok
जिस भोज राजवंश का आपने उल्लेख किया है क्या वो 1020 व 1055 ईसा के मध्य शासक थेव क्या वो राजा भोज ( परमार वंश) थे, क्या मैं गलत तो नहीं न
Wo Bhoj alag, aur ye Bhoj alag. Same surname
Chandor Discovery already done. By historical people.Come with new ideas now how to develop Chandor or anywhere in Goa with schools, hospitals, playgrounds for children. Goa
People already traumatised as lot of land grabbing going on. Visit them n bring about peace. You are young. Live n let live.
@menon same should apply to ur State also
I am a historian, not a bureaucrat. And instead of wasting time in giving me sermons on what I should and not to do, please use your time to develop the place you belong to. Thank you.
Hindu temples must be reconstructed and restored.Wenewd culture of our own soil.
Are the present Kadams are descendants of earlier Kadamba kings?
Certainly yes
Yes it is considered so
Even Tulu speaking Clan/caste Bunts(Shettys) from Mangalore/Udupi have few rare surname among us like Kadamba and Varma,
The Alupa dynasty ruled coastal Karnataka for 1200 years. Descendants of these kingdoms are Known as Bunts Today. They were the feudatories of the prominent dynasties like The Kadamba dynasty. Fascinating how much directly or indirectly everything is connected to each other
FYI: The Kadambas were the first indigenous dynasty to use Kannada, the language of the soil, at an administrative level. So either current kadams are of kanada origin or Kadambas adopted kanada and became a kanada Dynasty, or maybe something else. We can only speculate for now
This is what happens when you talk to second or third generation of converts.they cfnt even imagine the pain of first generation .what they havd gone thru.i know some rich landlords who left goa for the relugion.leaving their land property etc.and some stayed and got converted and suffered the pain.it applies to any forcefully converted people .willing converting is different matter.
Ofcourse there are very few who proudly say we were kamat,kinni etc before conversion.
Even in goa they follow cast system .all christians are not one.old generation would tell their earlier surname.anyway this is the history.and its effects.nothing personal.
Portuguese never entered goa but they were invited to goa by goans. In your documentary you never mentioned when chandor came under Portuguese rule, an why was it gifted to the Portuguese during the inquisition preiod by the hindu king of chandor. You also never mentioned the year this particular temple was constructed an you are also mentioning 3rd an 4th centuries, during this period of time there was only Buddhist religion in goa.
Give evidence for what you are saying.
@@sawanishetye which evidence you want tell me I will explain in detail.
If you understood basic history and archaeology you would have known giving exact details is not possible unless it is mentioned somewhere. Secondly, even though the Goan Hindus invited Portuguese they invited them to fight along not to overpower. And that certainly doesn’t justify them coming and killing and destroying the temples. So stop whitewashing their sins.
And do give me evidence for the Hindu King of chandor which gifted during Inquisition. Even I would like to know.
@@sawanishetyeyour history
Knowledge about goa is a big zero. You are pretending as if you are a goan but the fact is your ancestors entered goa during Portuguese rule an that to illegally from maharashtra. let me explain to you why l think so . In all you documentaries you never mention about goan gaunkari system which is the foundation of goa an history of goa started with the arrival of the first natives on this land who were known as gaunkars. Our ancestors when arrived made this land caltivable, they sperated river an land by building bunds which you can see till today. Every village of goa has a gaunkari system which is still in existence till date. We gaunkars had no religion as such, an Buddhism was the first religion which was accepted an practiced by gaunkars an it was the main religion of gaunkars for around 2000yrs, later it was jainism which majority of gaunkars accepted as their religion it was in practice for around 1000yrs. Christianity entered goa in 52AD an many gaunkars also accepted it as a religion but in small numbers. The present day Hinduism came to goa in the end of 12th century. There were a genocide at that time were by all Buddhist an jains were either killed or forcibly converted an some took shelter in the neighboring kingdoms an their places of worship were converted into temples an that's how Buddhism an jainism vanished from goa. Christianity was saved from this assault because our outlook was different from Buddhist and jains, they could be easily identified because of their outlook like the way they dress an also because they had their own temples. Whereas Christian at that time had no Chruches because the concept of church an pictures of Jesus and mother Mary were not in existence at that time. Christians use to meet in any one of the house of their followers an conduct their prayer service with only a cross as a symbol to venerate. This piece of history you will not find in any history book published by any author because most of the history of goa is written by non goan historians. Regarding temples, many so called historians always quotes some unimaginable numbers like your friend shefali Vaidya who quotes her own numbers as 572. Here let me inform you that every village had only one temple because all gaunkars of the particular village were from the same caste an there were no other people staying in the village except gaunkars. The size of the villages was also very big an not what we see today. For eg tiswadi taluka, l am mentioning tiswadi taluka because l belong to this taluka an know history of this taluka well. Tiswadi must have comprised of not more then five villages, for eg. the village taligoa comprises panjim, dona Paula, caranzalem Miramar, st. Inez etc. St. Cruz village comprises of bambolim an surrounding areas, merces village had jurisdiction upto corlim, an so on. This was before Portuguese rule. There were other people in the village, they were brought to the village especially during the sowing an harvesting time an once their work was over they had to leave for their respective places from where they came from. Even when this people who were brought to work an temporarily were staying in the village they were not allowed to construct any temple an they were not even allowed entry in the temple as well by the gaunkars. since entire village land belonged to gaunkars an only a gaunkar had a right to construct a temple. Temples were considered as private property of the gaunkars. All temples of goa were built by gaunkars an only gaunkars had a right to built a temple. Temples were not only a place of worship but also a place were gaunkars is to meet to take decisions regarding the village affairs. Now only a gaunkar can claim that any of thier temple were destroyed because they were the owners of this temples an not any migrants from maharashtra. Regarding temple destructions. When all gaunkars got converted they themselves abandoned these temples because the new religion they practiced told them that those are actually houses of devils an since they were abandoned an no care taken after their conversion this temples collapsed by themselves. Here many migrants who are in goa says that churches are construct on the place of this temples which is not true. Churches were built far away from the existing temples because this temples were considered as house of devil. Since entire village belonged to gaunkars they built the churches wherever they want. We gaunkars accepted Christianity by our own free will an nobody forced us. This are rumors spread by fanatics who themselves entered goa during Portuguese rule an that too illegally. I can tell you in detail what type of practices which were going on in goa at that time before the arrival of Portuguese an because of this barbaric practices we converted to Christianity, l am a gaunkar an know this very well because my ancestors were part of that. If I start telling you all those things which were happening in goa you will say I am talking against your religion.
Regarding salcette taluka, this taluka came under Portuguese rule only in the year 1543 an chandor was not part of salcette at that time it was gifted after many years later on by the hindu rulers of that village, an it was during the period of your so called inquisition. Now regarding which ruler gifted chandor to Portuguese you will find it in goa archives since you claim to be a historian go there an find it out. But here in archives also there is a possibility that this documents must have disappeared because there are people like you who doesn't want to let people know the proper history of goa. It will be better you go to Lisbon in Portugal where those original gifts deed are well maintained an kept, there you will also find the original peace treaty signed by shivaji Maharaj for his release when he was arrested by the Portuguese.
Read only the first part, completely illogical and a joke! You are commenting about me as if you have done PhD on me and my ancestors.