@@ele7735I don’t, Think ab it logically for a sec. All the mj people gone be passed away and always remember it’s eras. Mj era will be over just as all the other faces of the league have been forgotten ab as the GOAT. Not totally forgotten but 20 years from now bron will be the talk as the goat because everybody seen him growing up and his play. All the kids and future generations won’t understand the magnitude of just how good some of these players are. Over time it will be someone else era, we live in a world where you are forgotten after a certain amount of time and that’s just how it works at least in terms of the greatest of all time.
Those last lines are the perfect perception of him. He plays basketball how it shoulb played. Scoring, dribbling, shooting, attacking the rim, rebounding, assisting,... And all that for more than 20 years straight. Edit: Thx for the likes. Ignore the haters. Lol.
He really doesn’t…can’t play without the ball AT ALL..below average free throw shooter..poor on ball defender..weak post game. Poor mid range shooter..Turnover machine #1 in history..
@@WaveChronicles0everything you listed is wrong besides free throw shooting. Yes his last 5 years he's lacked in certain aspects (especially defensively) but you LeBron and prime LeBron had good post play, mid range shooting, and was in the running for defensive player of the year a couple times
You forgot travelling, blatant offensive fouls, gives up on defence, doesn't always show up, complains to refs when he fucks up and expects a bail out call., Dustin off his shoulders when he makes an and1 off a foul made by a fingernail.. yeah you can't miss without LeBron.. Listen he's great.. the goat? No. #2, yes. But, he's gotta stop this bullshit in these later years. He's soiling his legacy.
Not really, Jerry couldn’t hang with any players in the league today, as a matter of fact he would go undrafted if he played today, the NBA skill wise is better than ever, the last player on the bench of the worst team can work on Jerry west, he was great in his time, but things change.
Every single person that doesn't act as a gatekeeper, every single person that's a student of the game know that Bron is an all around basketball player. The most complete ever . If you take away the flopping tendencies, it ain't nothing that he can't do on both side of the court.
I saw MJ at UNC, saw Dr J & Kareem tail end of their careers. Seen alot of great ball players. LeBron did it right every single step of the way. He did it his way, made his own decisions, empowered his own childhood friends to be titans of the business of basketball. He's just as great as any player that's ever played
@huwdavies-tallon3305 That's a team stats bud. So please 🙏 quit mentioning things a whole franchise did, as if it was one player. Player stats makes a PLAYER a 🐐.
When describing a great player from another sport, people always say,”he’s the Michael Jordan of so and so.” Nobody says he’s the Lebron James of this or that. Plain and simple.
@@artistejiro No, that's not the reason, it's because Lebron isn't the standard for greatness. People have used Messi as standard for greatness and he's still playing, same with Tom Brady, Usain Bolt, Tiger Woods, etc.
I swear I don't understand the hate on lebron.the man can't do no more for the game than he's done for the game. And twenty years of domination with the points to prove it
He started the superteam culture, that was what made KD go to the Warriors, a move that was dubbed the weakest superstar free agency move of all time, and destroyed parity in the NBA. When he tried to get AD to the Lakers, he caused AD to fall out with the Pelicans and their fans, AD became so toxic when he wanted to go to LA. AD is a Klutch sports client. When he was on the Heatles, they were flopping like crazy. They were not the first team to flop, but they created a terrible culture for the NBA where the flopping was rampant in the mid to late 2010's. Lebron also complains to the refs all the time, it gets annoying af. Guys like Luka is basically following Lebron's footstep in complaining to the refs 24/7. Lebron also has terrible body language and generally can seem very lazy on the court, and when his teammates take over him, they get blamed by him and his fanboys. Lebron also lie a lot, especially when he said he's never been on a superteam, never flopped, and when his team got the benefit of the whistle, he said the other team fouled and his team didn't. Lebron used to think he's a modern Muhammad Ali in terms of social justice movement, until LeChina happened and he went against everything he thought he was. There are many reasons to dislike Lebron. Another one is that his fanboys lie a lot about Lebron James, they disrespect other all time greats just to prop up Lebron James.
The NBA logo is great, not because its Jerry West, but because of what it means: the logo isnt shooting, or dunking, not someone who is 6'8, 220 lbs. Its just someone dribbling. Its a nice statement. Whether it is the "its a fundamentals game. You need to practice your fundamentals." Or the "basketball is so skill intensive, that even getting the ball around is a skill." Or the "anyone can play the game" image the logo invokes. It's just a really good logo. No need to change it.
I agree. Everybody thinks when you’re that famous you should be on that logo they didn’t even think the meaning of the actual logo itself where the very basic fundamentals of basketball is shown and where it actually begins and grow to this day. If they’re really desperate to change the logo just use the “🏀” instead of someone who’s famous and had influence to the generation.
@@eazymunie1422 nobody has earned the right to be the logo. Only people who should be the Logo is Jerry West. Jokic or Luca would be a great logo but they haven't earned it over Jerry west
It's true whether you like it or not LeBron is literally the most complete player the game has seen. Passing, Scoring, Rebounding, being a leader and role model on and off the court, in his prime defense. If all that aint the definition of a basketball player idk what is
Jerry West wasn't the best in his era as well but for whatever reason he became the logo. If that's the qualification you need to become a logo, then LeBron certainly surpassed that.
@@HALF2LUVMEI'm a big Jordan fan, but I'm super cool with Bron being the Logo. Best all around player. Family Man, Business man, great in the community. Helped his friends become moguls and millionaires in their own right. Plays the game the right way. No trouble off the court, and played with a healthy balance of intensity and fun. LeBron is the blue print.
Stop hyping LeBron up, this must be a joke. He has stats but he's weak in the big moments. Flops and everyone trying to juice this guy his whole career. He never was a champion. Needed to be carried there by other players. WEAK!
@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed it is. Lebron is the greatest athlete of all time, not even just Basketball; where he is also the greatest basketball player of all time. He deserves every bit of it.
@@shatzngiggles8911Definitely the greatest openly gay athlete. He's done alot for the LGBTQ community and I can understand why you feel proud to be represented by him 👍
kobe should have been the logo when he died, i think it’s too late now i like that they kept is jerry west because he is very underrated and would play amazing in todays nba imagine him with a 3pt line 🔥
Lebron is so underrated for his own achievements he don’t be in tabloids for foolishness he haven’t been divorced after he got famous and rich still look out for the Game and his NBA fans and hometown Hero that left his city just to comeback and give them there first Ring,Yes 10 years from now I believe they will be talking about making the Logo of the National Basketball Association will be in conversations about the logo changing to Lebron James…!!! The best that did it on and off the court…#FreakofNature #Physics
Nah. The logo needs to stay as it is. What would be cool though is if they did limited releases of alternate logos so everybody can shut the hell up about it.
Real fans can hear an opinon without feeling disrespected or caught up in emotions. Real ones can see debate from both sides while emotional fans can’t understand why some people think one player is better than the other.
Yes that’s wrong, that’s Steph. MJ changed it culturally with the shows but Steph literally changed the GAME. you have people all the way from elementary up wanting to shoot threes. Hell he changed how video games in 2k are played.
@drewdelucchi7992 No, MJ made NBA known around the world. People who don't play basketball don't know who Stephen Curry is, but the moment MJ name came up, "Oh, isn't he that famous basketball players in the NBA. I heard he'd madelike billions dollar after he retired." MJ's contributions to the League far exceed that of Steph.
@@scipio764 if you want to try that one it’s definitely Kobe who people know the most… you shoot something what you saying definitely not MJ 🤣 (and you want to try and say people won’t be talking about Lebron the first active billionaire in the NBA? Stop it
No body was talking like that about Kobe until he died. Not saying Kobe isn’t a great but if he was still living we wouldn’t even be talking about him as much. Ijs
@@SummerAwe99what exactly did he surpass ? It can’t be basketball I’ve seen Lebron get outscored by a bench player for the entire duration of an nba finals in his prime after forming a superteam 😂
If anything I think either MJ, Kobe, or Bill russel for the logo. 3 of the best players ever to play the game period. One thing that surprises me about LeBron dude stayed healthy throughout his career, but that's about it.
Kobe didn’t do everything tho. He don’t even own a single record in the nba. The sad thing is Kobe & lbj both started when they were 18. Plus Kobe can’t win a ring with 3 different franchises, that will never happen again
LeClown should be the logo 😂😂😂😂 Turnovers Looses Missed shots Missed clutch shots Lost final games Lost playoff games Oh sorry, i forgot „most“ 😂😂😂 Most nicknames LeChoke LeQuit LeBum LeFlop LeLooser LeDramaqueen LeParasite List goes on 😂😂😂 You have now The Joker and The Joke, guess who is who 😂😂😂 Most overrated athlete of all time 😂😂😂 LeBozo
Jerry West has lost finals and everything on the list every player has believe it or not Jordan is the only star who hasn't lost a finals but he has plenty of playoff loses and missed clutch shots turnovers etc. By your logic nobody should be the logo Just use the commissioner
@@jaylou8721 There is a main difference my friend! None of the greats choked like LeChoke None of them flopped like LeFlop None of them missed clutch shots like LeNoclutch None of them had that much bricks like LeBrick None of them quit like LeQuit LeLooser lost the most finals games of all time None of them has turnovers as much as LeTurnover Come on man, you can’t ignore that all 🤷♂️ Not to mention: Bragging for help every day! Stat padding Resting Drama queen Crybaby List goes on 🙄
Jerry west lost more finals Kobe has the most missed field goals and your right about everything else I just need people to talk and shit about everybody else nobody talks about the other greats failures like they do lebron
@@jaylou8721 West lost most finals LeLooser lost most finals games 🙄 And not one great has so many disgusting attributes! Look old angry hoops Skap attack Then come back and apologize 😜
when u make it to the nba 1st round pick out of highschool , play for 2 decades in a constantly evolving game of basketball and break the scoring record , while being a multiple time nba champion then you can have an opinion on if he’s a winner or not
I’m an MJ fan and I think he’s the goat but that’s a stupid argument. Getting to the finals and losing is more impressive than losing in the first or second round.
Mj got swept twice in the first round, and had 3 first round exits. Lbj only has 1 first round exit, to the suns in 2022 i believe. He was like 37 when he lost in the 1st round for the first time.
@@AB_7092 not really. Losing in the first round to a legendary team and losing in the finals to a legendary team after facing only trash teams on the way there ends up all the same.
@@clementpeloquin1131 mj never missed the playoffs as a bull, but missed them twice as a wizard, lebron missed the playoffs altogether 4 times in his career. Twice as a cav and twice as a laker. It evens out imo.
That would be a good way to destroy your brand, nobody wants to wear a lbj logo. I don’t even want Jordan as the logo and he’s the goat. The Jerry west logo is iconic.
Turrible take (Barkley voice). He got help in a sport where every single champion needed help and talent to win. MJ had help, Shaq had help, then Kobe pushed Shaq out and eventually got his own help, Curry had help, Kareem and Magic had help. It takes talent to win in this league. Even with the help, LJ’s teams still managed to be underdogs in 6 of his 10 finals. That tells you everything you need to know about the competition in this league. He didn’t have the privilege of being the favorite in 6 finals in an era with weaker opponents not ready for the moment.
@@kaistreetsvisuals MJ and Kobe didn't get help like LeBUM just look at help he got and what does he do lose and blame give excuse... Competition is weak now my friend look at the nba from 2000's western conference you will know how soft Game has become anyone can score 50 now back then you would have to work for every single point... You can say whatever you want but the fact is you not gonna win championship with just stats you actually need skills
@@Rajesh1622 they had the same amount of help if not more compared to their competition. MJ had the best team, best 1/2 punch, best big 3, best system for their best players in an era where he faced less competition in the finals every single year. Still doesn’t take away from what he/they did. Just facts about who he faced. Kobe had the best 1/2 punch in the league by far and the most dominate big. LJ even with other all-stars didn’t have the best team because there was better talent and better teams in the league. Hence being an underdog for 6 of his 10 finals. Perspective and an open unbiased mind is everything.
@@Rajesh1622 You know what skill is? Rebounding, passing, scoring, pkaymaking, timing blocks and steals, IQ, all of it. LJ is the best all-around player in the league. Best scorer and best playmaker due to doing it more consistently and longer than everyone else. Yes that means something.
LeBron only went for help because that’s what all the other teams was doing. It’s like super man trying to beat the Avengers by himself. Just not gone happen buddy
@@Donatokoko idk about that, he was easily one of the most popular players when he was active, if not the most. He definetly was top 10 to a lot of people.
The GOAT who load manages on the court, the most turnovers, number 2 with most misses, 6 finals loses, outplayed by bench players in 2011. Would Lebrons silhouette be a flop? Come on, they had to create a flopping rule b/c of him!
Caused his teammates to quit, gambling problems, cheating on his wife, not a great teammate, doesn't have the assists and rebounds...doesn't have the all-time scoring record. Doesn't have the most Championships although you would think his 6 are the most of any player.
@@4316RamboLol stop it, Jordan was better, most people know it that’s why MJ beats Lebron in every single poll. He even got louder cheers in Cleveland than Lebron during that top 75 ceremony
20 years from now, people are going to have a much higher opinion of LeBron than they do today. Mark my words.
I doubt that...
@@ele7735I don’t, Think ab it logically for a sec. All the mj people gone be passed away and always remember it’s eras. Mj era will be over just as all the other faces of the league have been forgotten ab as the GOAT. Not totally forgotten but 20 years from now bron will be the talk as the goat because everybody seen him growing up and his play. All the kids and future generations won’t understand the magnitude of just how good some of these players are. Over time it will be someone else era, we live in a world where you are forgotten after a certain amount of time and that’s just how it works at least in terms of the greatest of all time.
@@nokizzap Well said.
Even these fools will miss that man when he's gone! The league will be fine, but he'll be the biggest loss easily in nba history 💯
No😊
I'm just blessed to have witness MJ, Shaq, Kobe & LeBron ... Basketball at its finest .
Yes sir
And now....Wemby
Kobe???
@@MrRogeriosk8yes, Kobe
@@MrRogeriosk8Did he stutter
Imagine the new logo is just Lebron “look down at the ball before I shoot a three” signature move
The LeFuckYou 3
LeFuckYou 3
No, it's LeBron doing his single most signature move he shares with none other than the legend Marcus Smart. THE FLOP !
@@feroxk.9266🤓
@@feroxk.9266 "LEBRON BEAT MY TEAM SO NOW I CRY ON THE INTERNET"
20 years from now they will still be talking about MJ like they still talking about him after over 20 years of his retirement!
because Lebron is still playing 😂
Dwight acting like Bron ain’t get him his ring 😂😂😂😂
What ring??????? Lol 😂 😂
Right shit crazy SMH
@@jonthomson9262the ring they got in 2020
@@galaxynob97 I'll ask again. What ring?????
Lebron Ain’t Join His Freak Offs… That’s What He’s Truly Mad About 😂
Those last lines are the perfect perception of him. He plays basketball how it shoulb played. Scoring, dribbling, shooting, attacking the rim, rebounding, assisting,... And all that for more than 20 years straight.
Edit: Thx for the likes. Ignore the haters. Lol.
He really doesn’t…can’t play without the ball AT ALL..below average free throw shooter..poor on ball defender..weak post game. Poor mid range shooter..Turnover machine #1 in history..
@@WaveChronicles0everything you listed is wrong besides free throw shooting. Yes his last 5 years he's lacked in certain aspects (especially defensively) but you LeBron and prime LeBron had good post play, mid range shooting, and was in the running for defensive player of the year a couple times
You forgot travelling, blatant offensive fouls, gives up on defence, doesn't always show up, complains to refs when he fucks up and expects a bail out call., Dustin off his shoulders when he makes an and1 off a foul made by a fingernail.. yeah you can't miss without LeBron..
Listen he's great.. the goat? No. #2, yes. But, he's gotta stop this bullshit in these later years. He's soiling his legacy.
@@WaveChronicles0 Haven't watched him play with Wade and Kyrie?
@@gwildorya say he wouldn’t last in the 80’s and 90’s and then say blatant offensive fouls?? choose a side bro ya niggas is bored
Jerry Wests silhouette ain't never leaving an NBA Ball😂
How it’s “supposed to look” vs. How it looks when you’re a GOAT 🐐
Dwight is low-key disappointed to be not in the logo conversation himself... 😅😅😅
😂😂😂
Nothing he said at all would indicate that
@@MrMoraleTop5
Nothing I said before would indicate that I think you could be a moron, yet... 😉😏
And you arrived at this assessment how? Pray tell
@@RaphaelManalo
It's Dwight Howard. What a dumb question.
The amount of disrespect Jerry West gets for being the logo is ridiculous
Let prime Jerry play prime LeBron 1v1 for the logo then
#FemaleLogic. I like white bread so I disrespect you because you like wheat even though I never said your name
Not really, Jerry couldn’t hang with any players in the league today, as a matter of fact he would go undrafted if he played today, the NBA skill wise is better than ever, the last player on the bench of the worst team can work on Jerry west, he was great in his time, but things change.
@@cousinchris5851it’s like saying let prime Hendrix have a solo duel with a lute player from medieval times
@@FederalYuterJerry west was one of the first with Steph curry range. He is basically Chris Paul but better.. an he actually made it to the finals
When it comes to him off the court hands down... The 🐐
He protected. Ya won’t hear about it in media.
Diddy...?
Absolutely Consistent 😮
This is crazy, 15 years ago, you’ll never catch Stephen Jackson giving love to Lebron. Lebrons has slowly been turning his haters.
Every single person that doesn't act as a gatekeeper, every single person that's a student of the game know that Bron is an all around basketball player. The most complete ever . If you take away the flopping tendencies, it ain't nothing that he can't do on both side of the court.
Because 15 years ago lebron resume wasn't what it is today, Lebron now has the achievements and numbers to support anyone who say he's the Goat
@@mozermzr3186flopping, and free throw shooting…
@@bespushkule3136Thought you cooked lmao 😹😹
@@andrewscott4264incluiding 6 championship losses😂😂😂
This is the best description of LBJ that I’ve heard yet. I come from the Jordan era but…….i agree totally with this statement.
I saw MJ at UNC, saw Dr J & Kareem tail end of their careers. Seen alot of great ball players. LeBron did it right every single step of the way. He did it his way, made his own decisions, empowered his own childhood friends to be titans of the business of basketball. He's just as great as any player that's ever played
4-6 in the final his great but MJ all day 6-0 when it matters end of!
@huwdavies-tallon3305 That's a team stats bud. So please 🙏 quit mentioning things a whole franchise did, as if it was one player. Player stats makes a PLAYER a 🐐.
@@huwdavies-tallon3305MJ met John Stockton and Charles Barkley in the finals not the fuckin Avengers 😭😭
😭😭😭right
When describing a great player from another sport, people always say,”he’s the Michael Jordan of so and so.” Nobody says he’s the Lebron James of this or that. Plain and simple.
That's because they still see LeBron James regularly. People are more respected in their absence
@@artistejiro No, that's not the reason, it's because Lebron isn't the standard for greatness. People have used Messi as standard for greatness and he's still playing, same with Tom Brady, Usain Bolt, Tiger Woods, etc.
@@zxcvb3772 good point
Lebron is the Basketball himself. He is playing the game of basketball the right way.
Finally they started to respect this legend
Lmao ‘legend’
@@PM-wp6zeyeah he should’ve said goat
@@nflfatboy7668 yea gayest of all time
Goat
@@PM-wp6ze He is a legend of the game you doofus
Lebron flopping as the logo would be hilarious.
How did he break all the records flopping 🤡
@@user-fp9mm1tw5ibecause he's played for like two decades
What about Jordan gambling as the logo
What about jordan drunk in a casino as the logo
Chill out we lebron fans dont have to take everything personally like damn it's a joke.
I swear I don't understand the hate on lebron.the man can't do no more for the game than he's done for the game. And twenty years of domination with the points to prove it
How you dominate when you have more finals losses than wins?
He started the superteam culture, that was what made KD go to the Warriors, a move that was dubbed the weakest superstar free agency move of all time, and destroyed parity in the NBA. When he tried to get AD to the Lakers, he caused AD to fall out with the Pelicans and their fans, AD became so toxic when he wanted to go to LA. AD is a Klutch sports client.
When he was on the Heatles, they were flopping like crazy. They were not the first team to flop, but they created a terrible culture for the NBA where the flopping was rampant in the mid to late 2010's.
Lebron also complains to the refs all the time, it gets annoying af. Guys like Luka is basically following Lebron's footstep in complaining to the refs 24/7.
Lebron also has terrible body language and generally can seem very lazy on the court, and when his teammates take over him, they get blamed by him and his fanboys.
Lebron also lie a lot, especially when he said he's never been on a superteam, never flopped, and when his team got the benefit of the whistle, he said the other team fouled and his team didn't.
Lebron used to think he's a modern Muhammad Ali in terms of social justice movement, until LeChina happened and he went against everything he thought he was.
There are many reasons to dislike Lebron. Another one is that his fanboys lie a lot about Lebron James, they disrespect other all time greats just to prop up Lebron James.
Rich Paul paying Stephen A to say this
Lebron’s hand explanation to the ref would be a great logo!
That clutch checking is good😂
Can’t lie my man spitting facts here
Steven Jackson ain't nobody 😝
Kobe over here: am I a joke to you?
The NBA logo is great, not because its Jerry West, but because of what it means: the logo isnt shooting, or dunking, not someone who is 6'8, 220 lbs. Its just someone dribbling. Its a nice statement. Whether it is the "its a fundamentals game. You need to practice your fundamentals." Or the "basketball is so skill intensive, that even getting the ball around is a skill." Or the "anyone can play the game" image the logo invokes.
It's just a really good logo. No need to change it.
I agree. Everybody thinks when you’re that famous you should be on that logo they didn’t even think the meaning of the actual logo itself where the very basic fundamentals of basketball is shown and where it actually begins and grow to this day.
If they’re really desperate to change the logo just use the “🏀” instead of someone who’s famous and had influence to the generation.
Lebron has never been 220 in his career ever
He was when he join the league @@Tatumisthegoat
@ceionteperry4764 I thought came in 230 but I could be wrong
See but people like you don’t like change and it’s better for the world to Have A little bit of change in our lives
Salute to this man for acknowledging his greatness 🫡
He finally stopped hating😂😂😂
Jerry west should remain the Logo. Jerry revolutionized the game of basketball
Can’t spell revolution without evolution my guy. Change is good
@@eazymunie1422 nobody has earned the right to be the logo. Only people who should be the Logo is Jerry West. Jokic or Luca would be a great logo but they haven't earned it over Jerry west
@@eazymunie1422
Respect that’s Peace
It's true whether you like it or not LeBron is literally the most complete player the game has seen. Passing, Scoring, Rebounding, being a leader and role model on and off the court, in his prime defense. If all that aint the definition of a basketball player idk what is
The goat of nba is MJ
Glad u agree with stak
Defense? Lmfao........really?
They beat him multiple times through daring him to shoot.
When Hakeem Olajuwon retired, he was in the top 10 all time in 4 out of 5 stat categories except for assists.
@@SoWhat-and he fixed that and can shoot consistently
Dwight trying to get a contract with the warriors 😂
Dwight thinking like “get off his”
Why he even talking to Dwight Howard he was thinking about Kitty😂
Slowly putting all of the guys on Clutch payroll 😂
Underrated comment😂
Mannnn😂😂
Dude speaking facts 💯 delusional fools doesn't change that fact
What lie did he tell?
So they getting paid under Bron no other athlete got people paid just themselves
Let the logo be the logo, the fact that he doesn’t want it makes it even better. If not then Give it to Bill or Wilt
Not wilt lol
It has to be a Laker. That’s the people’s team
@@erikescobar6616I mean I hate the C's but their players deserve it just as much as the Lakers.
They have trophies after them
@@bigpoppa3999 hell no they have a couple fringe top 10 players but it should be a top 5 player all time(they’re all lakers except MJ)
“He’s not 6’8” 😂😂😂😂
What puts Lebron above all the rest is he would never accept an offer as the logo and would give reasons why he shouldn’t be it.
Jerry West will always be the logo. why change something thats been so iconic
Stephen is high as usual lol😂
He’s on the LePayroll now 😂
@@goofy_xf6223exactly
The truth really hurts 😂
Truth hurts
How is he wrong?
Jerry West wasn't the best in his era as well but for whatever reason he became the logo.
If that's the qualification you need to become a logo, then LeBron certainly surpassed that.
Lebron James Broke Al records goat 🐐 Steph curry shooting 21 seasons 👑👑👑👑💛👑👑👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
As a Jordan fan, I agree. LeBron should be the logo🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Then you're not a real MJ fan.
@@HALF2LUVMEthts your opinion 😂
@@HALF2LUVMEI'm a HUGE MJ fan, and I agree Bron should be it as well.
I'm a Jordan fan and I want what some of you guys are smoking 😂😂😂
@@HALF2LUVMEI'm a big Jordan fan, but I'm super cool with Bron being the Logo. Best all around player. Family Man, Business man, great in the community. Helped his friends become moguls and millionaires in their own right. Plays the game the right way. No trouble off the court, and played with a healthy balance of intensity and fun. LeBron is the blue print.
Even Dwight knows that statement is off...lol! 😂
Stop hyping LeBron up, this must be a joke. He has stats but he's weak in the big moments. Flops and everyone trying to juice this guy his whole career. He never was a champion. Needed to be carried there by other players. WEAK!
LeGoat should be the LOGO
D Howard can’t see LeBron like that because he looks at him in a different way 😂😂
Rate him or not but D. Howard 1 NBA title came courtesy of the King LeBron James
They don't beat joker without Dwight
And Dwight stopped Bron from seeing Kobe
Leave the logo as it is... jerry west has been a great ambassador for the game.. it would be disrespectful to change it now
I bet West would say LeBron deserves it.
@@shatzngiggles8911 He would because he is humble but that doesn't mean it is the right thing to do
Leave the game how you left it. -Larry Bird
@OLAOnlyLegendzAllowed it is. Lebron is the greatest athlete of all time, not even just Basketball; where he is also the greatest basketball player of all time.
He deserves every bit of it.
@@shatzngiggles8911Definitely the greatest openly gay athlete.
He's done alot for the LGBTQ community and I can understand why you feel proud to be represented by him 👍
curry a specialist, lebron better all rounder
The logo can't have 9 airballed free throws on his resume
6'8" 260 isn't an argument, its a description of size. How is a man that size consistently on the ground acting hurt?
He is soft
Ask embiid
@@smokeyperception8871 he's even softer, crybaby Embied
Fax
@@smokeyperception8871Embid can’t pass the 3 rounds no rings 😂
Michael Jordan's Jumpman should be the logo, case closed.
kobe should have been the logo when he died, i think it’s too late now
i like that they kept is jerry west because he is very underrated and would play amazing in todays nba
imagine him with a 3pt line 🔥
@bmanjamin hell nah Jerry west would get cooked today, the game has evolved he couldn't hang with the freak athletes in today's game
Jump man is Jordan’s personal logo. Why would they have two logos of the same thing? Don’t make sense
Haha yeah, no
@@carsonhagler4341 he’s the reason the 3pt line was added
if you don’t want that then fine
The Jordan logo is iconic. Perfect logo. What logo can you make for LeBron? This dude is definitely wack on all levels.
Steroids logo 😂😂
Lebron is so underrated for his own achievements he don’t be in tabloids for foolishness he haven’t been divorced after he got famous and rich still look out for the Game and his NBA fans and hometown Hero that left his city just to comeback and give them there first Ring,Yes 10 years from now I believe they will be talking about making the Logo of the National Basketball Association will be in conversations about the logo changing to Lebron James…!!! The best that did it on and off the court…#FreakofNature #Physics
Very wrong...great player...but so many scandals...all you have to do is look it up
The only guy that has been pushed by narrative, league office and media through all the shit he done. yeah nah. thanks.
Thank you.
MJ is the people's choice like King Saul, but LeBron is God's choice like King David!
god said the devil is the ruler of the world and they love the darkness but hate the light
When did the king of PEDS become God's choice!
@@heart4yah881 You just eat whatever your fed
and Lebron has a good heart.
Comparing lebron to David is wild work 🤮
Once he is retired people will start to appreciate him more and put him at least on par with MJ.
Fuuuuuuuuucccck no. So we can tell kids to quit in the finals?
Nah. The logo needs to stay as it is. What would be cool though is if they did limited releases of alternate logos so everybody can shut the hell up about it.
Having some mid whitey as the logo is a joke
@@zazasnruntz7505 why bring race into it?
Soon as LeBron retires and them Klutch checks stop coming, everybody gonna start telling the truth about him.
Yelp! He has some things on and off the court that people will be honest about or expose then.
I see no lies told on this video
Kobe should be the logo
Lebron the logo is like.. a spit in the face of real basketball fans…
Real basketball fans wouldn't hate on any players, instead appreciate the greatness before it's gone
Real fans can hear an opinon without feeling disrespected or caught up in emotions. Real ones can see debate from both sides while emotional fans can’t understand why some people think one player is better than the other.
@@clouded_vision5517ain’t nobody gonna miss Lebron he can tear his achilles tomorrow 😂
@@clouded_vision5517 I was replying to the original comment
@@raeyadmasu1590 lmao lemme just delete that, my bad dude
Michael Jordan had the greatest impact on the game of basketball than any other player of all time.
Yes that’s wrong, that’s Steph. MJ changed it culturally with the shows but Steph literally changed the GAME. you have people all the way from elementary up wanting to shoot threes. Hell he changed how video games in 2k are played.
Steph changed the game the most, maybe could argue shaq in there but definitely wasn’t MJ, he changed the shoe game that’s about it
@drewdelucchi7992 No, MJ made NBA known around the world. People who don't play basketball don't know who Stephen Curry is, but the moment MJ name came up, "Oh, isn't he that famous basketball players in the NBA. I heard he'd madelike billions dollar after he retired."
MJ's contributions to the League far exceed that of Steph.
@@scipio764 if you want to try that one it’s definitely Kobe who people know the most… you shoot something what you saying definitely not MJ 🤣 (and you want to try and say people won’t be talking about Lebron the first active billionaire in the NBA? Stop it
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird changed it more than MGay Jordumb.
Lebron destroyed the NBA
😂
Never expected to hear this from Stephen Jackson. They’re all waking up at the end.
Yawn Bron stan
Kobe should be the next logo of the NBA
No body was talking like that about Kobe until he died. Not saying Kobe isn’t a great but if he was still living we wouldn’t even be talking about him as much. Ijs
Please that boy didn't even like his mother and father
@@lancebates287what does that have to do with anything related?
No, there is one logo and there should only ever be one
@@thomaspressley6762 do you just like to get on the internet and debate about everything. I have a right to my opinion and can say what I feel.
The logo ??? Wow aint enough. This is blasphemy. Jordan or Kobe Period.
EXACTLY
on and off the court people don't want there children gambling and uder things
Complete BLASPHEMY
Lebron passed Kobe a decade ago ya'll need to let that go its getting sad now.
@@SummerAwe99what exactly did he surpass ? It can’t be basketball I’ve seen Lebron get outscored by a bench player for the entire duration of an nba finals in his prime after forming a superteam 😂
If we bring real Kobe should be the logo
The logo...lol that will NEVER happen.
The disrespect of Jordan and Kobe is crazy. LeBron James is nowhere near the same level.
Facts.
Facts, he’s above their level.
1000%
@@YvngGoat_6&5 is better than 4
@@cjfromgs693team stat
Best flopper of all time
If anything I think either MJ, Kobe, or Bill russel for the logo. 3 of the best players ever to play the game period. One thing that surprises me about LeBron dude stayed healthy throughout his career, but that's about it.
Even Larry Bird above it. Larry and Magic gave the NBA life, MJ brought it to the highest point it ever been.
The logo gonna be Him flopping 😂
The logo should be a silhouette of him whining to the refs.
traveling. taking all them damn steps
😂 👏🏽
Every player "whines" if they feel a call is unfair you casual
😂😂😂
@@SouthHospitalitynah. Not like the 6’8 260 Lebron.
Yes, players complain, but fam, literally not like Lebron
The KOBE disrespect is sometimes UNREAL
Booooo😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Makes me mad and Brum had everybody believing his hype
@@kevinjohnson963 STRAIGHT FACTS BRO 🤷🏿♂️
Kobe didn’t do everything tho. He don’t even own a single record in the nba. The sad thing is Kobe & lbj both started when they were 18. Plus Kobe can’t win a ring with 3 different franchises, that will never happen again
@@yeezyyee7200 BINGO 🤷🏿♂️
No they won't LeBron is a fool
Didnt change the Logo for Magic, not for Bird, not for mj, not changing it for Bron, respect the men who paved the way
LeClown should be the logo 😂😂😂😂
Turnovers
Looses
Missed shots
Missed clutch shots
Lost final games
Lost playoff games
Oh sorry, i forgot „most“ 😂😂😂
Most nicknames
LeChoke
LeQuit
LeBum
LeFlop
LeLooser
LeDramaqueen
LeParasite
List goes on 😂😂😂
You have now The Joker and The Joke, guess who is who 😂😂😂
Most overrated athlete of all time 😂😂😂
LeBozo
All facts
Jerry West has lost finals and everything on the list every player has believe it or not
Jordan is the only star who hasn't lost a finals but he has plenty of playoff loses and missed clutch shots turnovers etc.
By your logic nobody should be the logo
Just use the commissioner
@@jaylou8721
There is a main difference my friend!
None of the greats choked like LeChoke
None of them flopped like LeFlop
None of them missed clutch shots like LeNoclutch
None of them had that much bricks like LeBrick
None of them quit like LeQuit
LeLooser lost the most finals games of all time
None of them has turnovers as much as LeTurnover
Come on man, you can’t ignore that all 🤷♂️
Not to mention:
Bragging for help every day!
Stat padding
Resting
Drama queen
Crybaby
List goes on 🙄
Jerry west lost more finals
Kobe has the most missed field goals and your right about everything else
I just need people to talk and shit about everybody else nobody talks about the other greats failures like they do lebron
@@jaylou8721
West lost most finals
LeLooser lost most finals games 🙄
And not one great has so many disgusting attributes!
Look old angry hoops
Skap attack
Then come back and apologize 😜
4 out of 10 doesn't make you a winner...
Do you have any rings 😂😂😂😂 ok then shut up bum stop Le losing
when u make it to the nba 1st round pick out of highschool , play for 2 decades in a constantly evolving game of basketball and break the scoring record , while being a multiple time
nba champion then you can have an opinion on if he’s a winner or not
Jerry west is 1-8 and he is the logo? 🤡
4 rings in 21 years & counting is the real numbers NOT 4 of 10 😂4 for 21 sounds bad at anything 🤔🤣
Just one chip makes you a winner!
Nahhhhhh! KOBE OR MJ!!! Period
Steph is just a good shooter nothing else
Had he won more rings and lost fewer finals then i understand. Clearly he is not
I’m an MJ fan and I think he’s the goat but that’s a stupid argument. Getting to the finals and losing is more impressive than losing in the first or second round.
Mj got swept twice in the first round, and had 3 first round exits. Lbj only has 1 first round exit, to the suns in 2022 i believe. He was like 37 when he lost in the 1st round for the first time.
@@AB_7092 not really. Losing in the first round to a legendary team and losing in the finals to a legendary team after facing only trash teams on the way there ends up all the same.
@@clementpeloquin1131 mj never missed the playoffs as a bull, but missed them twice as a wizard, lebron missed the playoffs altogether 4 times in his career. Twice as a cav and twice as a laker. It evens out imo.
Jerry West is the logo and is 1-8 in the finals. What’s your point?
That would be a good way to destroy your brand, nobody wants to wear a lbj logo. I don’t even want Jordan as the logo and he’s the goat. The Jerry west logo is iconic.
When he said “he not 260 broke all the records” why he sound like Mike Epps😭😭
Lebron should be the logo for a trash can 😂
Riding lebron even after getting all the help and losing 6 finals.. is wild af
Turrible take (Barkley voice). He got help in a sport where every single champion needed help and talent to win. MJ had help, Shaq had help, then Kobe pushed Shaq out and eventually got his own help, Curry had help, Kareem and Magic had help. It takes talent to win in this league. Even with the help, LJ’s teams still managed to be underdogs in 6 of his 10 finals. That tells you everything you need to know about the competition in this league. He didn’t have the privilege of being the favorite in 6 finals in an era with weaker opponents not ready for the moment.
@@kaistreetsvisuals MJ and Kobe didn't get help like LeBUM just look at help he got and what does he do lose and blame give excuse... Competition is weak now my friend look at the nba from 2000's western conference you will know how soft Game has become anyone can score 50 now back then you would have to work for every single point... You can say whatever you want but the fact is you not gonna win championship with just stats you actually need skills
@@Rajesh1622 they had the same amount of help if not more compared to their competition. MJ had the best team, best 1/2 punch, best big 3, best system for their best players in an era where he faced less competition in the finals every single year. Still doesn’t take away from what he/they did. Just facts about who he faced. Kobe had the best 1/2 punch in the league by far and the most dominate big. LJ even with other all-stars didn’t have the best team because there was better talent and better teams in the league. Hence being an underdog for 6 of his 10 finals.
Perspective and an open unbiased mind is everything.
@@Rajesh1622 You know what skill is? Rebounding, passing, scoring, pkaymaking, timing blocks and steals, IQ, all of it. LJ is the best all-around player in the league. Best scorer and best playmaker due to doing it more consistently and longer than everyone else. Yes that means something.
LeBron only went for help because that’s what all the other teams was doing. It’s like super man trying to beat the Avengers by himself. Just not gone happen buddy
Nah it should be Kobe
Kobe wasn’t in anyone’s top 10 until he died
@@Donatokoko idk about that, he was easily one of the most popular players when he was active, if not the most. He definetly was top 10 to a lot of people.
Colorado 2003.
They are never going to change it because "The logo" doesn't file a lawsuit against them💀
There he goes thinkin’ with the wrong head again 😂😂😂
The GOAT who load manages on the court, the most turnovers, number 2 with most misses, 6 finals loses, outplayed by bench players in 2011. Would Lebrons silhouette be a flop? Come on, they had to create a flopping rule b/c of him!
Facts Complete Player NOT JUST AN Assassin
Has the most turnovers so I guess the most complete player 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bron being the slightest more well rounded doesn't make Mike just an assassin bro
@@anthonygesswein1830and the most points in nba history
He’s also fourth in all time assist
@@AotheMajinlongevity
I don't watch college ball so I didn't even know who steph was until he started hitting threes
He really is fundamentally sound.
Kobe. The perfect representation of a bonafide hooper. Live, Breathe, Eat, and shit Basketball.
Kobe is better than lebron
@@obatv5733Keep dreaming!
Kobe had a case.......don't forget that.
I’d argue Tim Duncan over Kobe, but RIP to the legend. No disrespect meant from it.
@@tankwhite.7036what’s LeBron’s finals record?
A player taking PEDs shouldn’t be the logo of the league.
Michael Jordan is not the best, he's the greatest to ever play the game.
Stephen Jackson giving Lebron his flowers??? Damn
Cappin Jack is at it again. Jerry West said MJ should be the logo. 🙏🏾
What about mj?
This dude: he's not 6'8🗣️
😂
Maybe if he said: he’s not breaking records in every category
Caused his teammates to quit, gambling problems, cheating on his wife, not a great teammate, doesn't have the assists and rebounds...doesn't have the all-time scoring record. Doesn't have the most Championships although you would think his 6 are the most of any player.
Jordan also needed a HOF Coach and one of the best all-time teams ever aside from arguably the Warriors with KD.
@@4316RamboLol stop it, Jordan was better, most people know it that’s why MJ beats Lebron in every single poll. He even got louder cheers in Cleveland than Lebron during that top 75 ceremony
Logo should never change. There’s things that don’t need changing
Physically, mentally and hopefully spiritually and oh yeah financially