martha jones being iconic
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the fact that even RTD wishes he wrote better things for Martha speaks volume about how mistreated she was on the show
I've seen many peoole say this, is there an actual source for this?
@@WithADashOfPazazz A lot of Rose-fans really hated her. They saw her as the rebound companion. But she was brilliant. I wish we'd seen more of her.
P R E A C H
@@LiEmDaRu Even the Doctor saw her as the rebound companion
I kinda loved how she was written. She was a tragic character, not every companion should have the best time of their life on the Tardis. She knew when to leave and she had a maturity about her and never lost her head. She was a realist.
Martha is so underrated. 11 seasons in and she's still the only nuWho companion who left the TARDIS willingly on her own terms. She realized their relationship was toxic, the Doctor didn't value her friendship enough, she'd always want more than friendship, yada yada, it'd never work. So she did the best possible thing for both of them and put a stop to it. And that's just 1 of the reasons why Martha Jones is badass, thank you
Damn right
Actually, there are other companions who left. Sarah Jane, in the classic series, for example.
@rute filgueiras That's why I said the only nuWho companion. Technically Amy left willingly too, but that's because the Angels forced her to choose between Rory and the Doctor. Martha was the only companion in the revived series who had nothing to lose if she stayed. No deaths, alternate universes, clones, immortality or massive time paradoxes complicating the situation. Staying was the easier option, but she still left just cause she knew moving on was the better option.
I thought Martha left to take care of her Family?
It is kind of sad the new companions will mostly meet a horrible end to force them to leave the Doctor.
She had some of the hardest episodes, emotionally speaking and was just so…active. The doctor turning human, forgetting her and watching him fall in love with someone else, supporting the doctor when they were stuck in time because of the weeping angels, and saving the earth on her own.
Literally, on her own. No prophecy, no crack in time, no bad wolf, just her and her own two feet, travelling while the world crashed and burned around her.
She’s the strongest companion in nuWho.
!!!!!!! this
Well except handles of course. Martha is my personal favourite so seriously no hate to this comment. Just couldn't help but point out that handles end was the only thing that made me cry on this show and also the fact that he was with the doctor for the longest out of all the companions. Oh and he's the reason for some great moments with the whole putting the doctor onto a darlec ship with a broken piece of darklec and then going onto a cyberman ship with him.
I agree 👏👏❤️❤️ Martha is the best
Martha didnt turn into a god, or immortal, or stuck in a parallel universe, or stuck in a different time, or not allowed to see the Doctor, or have her memories erased after becoming a Time Lord level genius for a few hours.
The dramatic shit of elevating most female companions just to have tragedy and distance strike, didn't happen.
Martha left on her own, continued working to help the world, stayed friends with Jack and got together with Micky. Martha had successful relationships/friendships before and after the Doctor, despite the experience of the Doctor not appreciating her (not just compared with Rose; Donna comes along and 10 is like "I will listen to you! only you!" probs because of being loud with her good opinions).
Martha was real fucking cool, smart, and kind, and funny. She was not the only companion with an unrequited crush (Amy), but she gets treated badly because the Doctor refused to look at anyone not actively forcing him to look at them, because he's caught up in missing the first person he connected with after the Time War.
tldr: Martha is an exceptionally good companion that doesnt fall into other companion stereotypes
despite her theme in the show being "miss overlooked" fans still overlook her
she’s the best companion i love her sm 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Martha is the golden example of what a companion should be. She’s positive, she’s smart as hell, she’s a literal doctor and most of all her life choices are extremely admirable, she’s the only companion out of all the RTD era that didn’t either get her memory wiped or got trapped on a parallel earth.
Hey Donna is pretty much a tie in my opinion but i love Martha. I love when she made the doctor sit down and talk. He tried to play dumb but she was like (naw fam)
Martha’s a great companion yeah, but it’d be pretty boring if every companion was the same.
She's also not tied into any kind of destiny or prophesy or hidden connection with the doctor. She's just her own person with her own life and her adventures with the doctor were just one small part of it. As it should be.
And she got screwed over poor Martha
Martha was the most underrated character in new who
along with miss bill potts. my best girls :(
@@dragonlcrd y e s
Agreed
@@cemetrygayts3230 why?
@@dragonlcrd OMG I really like Bill she is one of my favourite companions!
“I don’t mean to be rude but the awful thing is it doesn’t even matter what you think” 💀💀💀 sister snapped
ObiWan Kenobi general kenobi...
I don't even remember the context of that line but it's so hilarious
“Scared with a gun is a good combination. You wanna risk it?”
QUEEN.
@@charlottedillon2467 u again? who the fuck cares are copypastas nowadays? just go away
Martha really deserved another series, she was a great companion
@@EclipseOfTsuki93 she got 3 eps in s4
@@rainbowfactoryworker get a life
@@JJ-bp1yp ur replying a month later and I need a life?
Martha the Doctor: "I spent a lot of time with you thinking I was second best but you know what? I am good."
Rose literally as soon as she meets Martha: "Oh she's good!"
There Doctor! There you effing go! Rose approves, will you approve now????
Love Russel's era, but the way the show treated Martha... GOD, SHE DESERVED BETTER!!!
Hannah Jayne If it makes you feel any better Martha was originally intended to appear in both Sarah Jane and Children of Earth so they could extend her presence in all three shows. Sadly it wasn’t to be due to Freema’s busy schedule. But at least she got to appear again in Series 2 of Torchwood and Series 4 of Doctor Who.
Hannah Jayne I think so too! Sadly underrated. One of my favourite characters in the whonivers.
@Claire Cre8tes Huh? Martha got captured all the time?? Martha wasn't usually the damsel in distress. Many other companions had that role, but not Martha, even in the rare times she was the damsel in distress she saved herself or saved the Doctor in a big way to balance it out. In Gridlock when they got caught by the macra, she saved her and the people with her, 42 she almost crashed into the sun, but the Doctor saved her and then she saved him and the others. In Human Nature/Family of Blood she was the one that saved the people at the dance and stood up to the family of blood and had to be the doctor while he wasn't around In Last of the Timelords she straight up was the Doctor while the Doctor was the damsel in distress companion. Ext... Not sure who you're remembering but it wasn't her.
ie not getting married to mickey smith
@@dinoking09 I don't think there was anything wrong with that. Mickey was a great character toward the end of his arc.
marthas character had one of the best personalities especially in the earlier episodes. But this gets overshadowed by her gradually increasing unrequited love for the doctor
A K no but then gets better once she’s not his full time companion again
@@castielbillius1973 definitely
@@castielbillius1973 that's probably why she left
@@AK-ms6wx Truth 👏👏👏
that romance was so unnecessary
I love how during her stint in Torchwood Jack didn't let a single conversation go by without referencing what she'd done in the year of the Master's reign - it's like he wanted to thank her on behalf of everybody on Earth, one person at a time.
Now that you mention it, I don't think Ten has ever thanked Martha properly...
"Anything else I should know?"
"I've met Shakespeare"
"Well now you've met satan too"
Only when I saw this video I just realized that's him🤦♀️
Aaahh! I was hoping to see someone mention it!
@@applejuice565 Wait what-
Excuse me who tf was satan 0-0
@@movedaccounts6980 Tom Ellis, who plays the guy that was helping Martha during the whole Harold Saxon thing, also plays Lucifer (Satan, the Devil) on the show Lucifer.
She's so underrated, they didn't give her the best storyline, but she’s brilliant.
i loved her story line, simply because she was in it! haha
I thought she had a great arc
Over rated you mean. Totally forgettable companion.
Simon George Nope
I love her storyline it made her Martha
The Doctor and Martha's relationship summarised:
Doctor: It's a beautiful moon out tonight.
Martha: Yeah.
Doctor: You know what else is beautiful?
Martha: _blushes_ What?
Doctor: Rose.
this cut my heart in half. thank you.
😂😂😂😂😂 Martha is way prettier than Rose
Poor Martha :(
FUCK 😭😭😂😂😂😂
It's funny cause it's true 😂😂
Or Rose would have liked it
she’s the most underrated character of the modern era. she’s sassy, knows how to deal with the doctor, she’s INTELLIGENT and she’s the only one to get out alive and safe.
love her.
Donna Nobel is Amazing too!
She basically flips the bird when describing the bones of the hand.
@@charlottedillon2467 I stopped watching best not be a virus
Now she is playing a doctor again in America.
“Me too, if I ever pass my exams” Martha being a whole mood in one sentence
Martha is really under-rated, not the my personal fav but she dosent deserve the hate. She saved the world. On. Her. Own. She deserves praise for crying out loud.
Yes, exactly! She didn't need Time Vortex or crack in time being poured into her head, she didn't need to jump to Doctor's timestream or to share his DNA, she managed to do it on her own.
I think we all just felt protective over the doctors heart and missed rose. Her crush always annoyed me despite the fact I'd be the same if I were her.
Villanelle Pollastri I was annoyed by the whole rose thing, even when she was gone we were not allowed to move forward.
Villanelle Pollastri no i was more annoyed with the doctor for treating her so terribly bc he missed rose
@@villanellepollastri8894 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO You're the first one I've ever seen to admit this! I'd DEFINITELY be like her especially if the doctor still had David cute ass face!
2:42 "Bow tie. Whenever I wear one of these something bad happens."
Me: *hmms in matt smith*
To be fair he was wearing a bowtie during the pandorica event, tranzalore, during his own death, and many other bad things
I thought he said black tie?
@@sageinit Yeah he said black tie
Perhaps thinking of the sad fate he met as the Second Doctor?
Day of the Doctor anyone?
Honestly, Martha and Mickie getting married was probably one of the most beautiful things on the show. Two characters, both in love with people who don't value them enough for who they are. The Doctor only saw Rose. Rose only saw the Doctor. Martha and Mickie deserve each other.
well, I dont think they were in love with those people when they got married to each other.
They realized their self worth, and decided to pick people who would be good to them, who they were attracted to, and who had been through similar things.
They literally had no relation to each other until that last episode
Except it made absolutely no sense because she had been engaged to that sweet doctor and she and Mickey had barely any interaction
@@Ru136 it made sense when mickey ran away with martha and jack and then when the 10th doctor was dying seeing how they were doing in the future anything couldve been possible
I’d say it’d be awesome if we saw them together again but I doubt we’ll ever be seeing Mickey again because… well you know
"good old j.k!" oh doctor if only you knew don't get a twitter
I came here looking exactly for that, thank you.
@MrRandomninja1234 Ironic comment as David Tennant is absolutely hopeless when it comes to post-2008 social media. 😂
11th Doctor: "Twitter... >:("
@@wyvern5890 11th Doctor "don't look at my search history". And now people can see why he doesn't like twitter. Thanks j.k.
@@wyvern5890 omg YESSSSS. Bring on the Ponds
I COMPLETELY FORGOT MARTHA AND MICKEY GOT MARRIED
SAME
she was originally engaged to tom milligan but ig they forgot about that lmao
@@leilanyx omg I forgot she was engaged to that guy 😂 guess he vanished
@@leilanyx the master killed Tom that's why
@@lewisunderwood9471 that was reversed, remember? in the alternate timeline tom was killed (and he was only a brief character in the season 3 finale). not the tom from a year ago, who martha ends up engaged to. (and then evidently broke up with)
Living in 1913. Having to get a job in 1969. The year fighting the Master.
How much time did Martha spend with the Doctor? She is such an incredibly strong woman, her character deserved so much better. One of my favourite companions ever.
Can we talk about how Martha had enough of John Smith and just slapped the mess out of him. Lmao
One more time for the people in the back:
Martha is just as great as Rose and Donna and deserves all the same amount of love!
Thank you for not condemning any of them
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Rose and Donna are great and Billie piper and Caine Tate lend lots of charm into each character! But Martha is objectively the best! The smartest, most resourceful, most accomplished companion the Doctor had in all of the modern Who series.
Martha was better then Donna and Rose
Martha and Donna were my favs at this point 😭💗
Such an underrated companion. Her stepping away from the Doctor and leading her own life was a brave and powerful move! QUEEN
And the best part that I love about her ? She end up being part/leading UNIT, because she saw the universe and the threats, she stay being and was kind of like the doctor, she protect the earth and save it with or without the doctor help.
Another we can compare her with ? Clara who didn't let the doctor do whatever he wanted, helped when he couldn't. Every companion are different but Martha, Donna and Clara are the best because most of the time they would slap the bullshit out of the doctor.
It also gave her the most happy ending out of almost any companion. Good choices were made by her.
She was my favourite.
@@doctormaboule true but Donna is the best for me coz she just want to be in the TARDIS as a friend and companion to the doctor from start to till she unwillingly have to leave the TARDIS unlike the other
The thing I’ve realized, upon revisiting the Russel T Davies era, is that of the three main companions, Martha is the one *better off* without the Doctor. Rose and Donna are incredibly fun in part because of how they bring out the best in the Doctor and vice versa. Martha is awesome, and grows a lot during her time in the TARDIS, but ultimate she could never be fully actualized as long as she was with (and pining after) the Doctor. Which is part of why it is SO GREAT that we get everybody back for the end of Series 4. Her and Mickey? We love to see it 🙌🏽
👏👏👏👏
The brightest ever companion, she quit the TARDIS on her terms before the inevitable could happen.
MARTHA: Do you just get bored of us one day and disappear
CAPTAIN JACK: Not if you’re blonde
MARTHA: Ohhhhhh she was blonde?!?! ohhhh what a surpriseeee?!?!
@Hannah Kenney You two: we are at the end of the universe, right at the end of knowledge itself and you're busy...
*BlOgGiNG!!!*
and @@Longshanks1690du dy.i PM. Yet 74yid is l n 36 Inches herself issues.It 5th who. .6 .and foreign aid
Blond is the adjective
Blonde is a noun
@@chunglebung8988 Blond is a fair haired male, blonde is a fair haired female. Good try, mate.
They do.
Doctor: Good old JK
Jk Rowling: The Doctor was in an intense relationship with the Master.
That wouldn't be enough of a stretch for JK.
Well, it's not wrong as long as you don't say what kind of relationship
You mean every fanfic ever?
I mean.... it's not that far-fetched
Although I can actually believe that happened at some point...
Martha summed up:
Doctor: Guess who'd help right now...
Martha: Oh, me? Y'know, the one who went round the entire world and convinced people to think of your name and you so that you can rise against The Master and defeat him?
Doctor: No, Rose.
Basically 😂
Oof
"youre completely mad"
"youre right, i look daft with one shoe"
"you. are. bonkers!"
"why, what's wrong with b l u e?"
ten confuses declarations of insanity with insults to his fashion sense.
Well he DID wear a stick of celery for a while, so I can see why he'd get confused
Martha: *runs back to the door* knock knock KNOCK, Is he alright???!
Woman: *I is shooketh*
That legit happened to me once
Me: *bursts into brothers room* ARE YOU OK!?! (he jusy threw up)
Brother: Ive told u to knock a million times
Me: *runs back and knocks door* Are you ok
Brother: Smart ass
Lol!
Brick Motion81 omg 😂
@@zachmakesstuff9866 Alternative me: *runs back and starts knocking* you mind if I cut it short, knocking a million times may take a while. ;-)
“It’s like when you fancy someone and they don’t even know you’re there”
“You too, huh?”
TeaGamingPanda when you and your best friend both have crushes on guys who don’t know u exist lol
Imagine a companion who was actually useful. We need another Martha
Clara was just as brilliant
Rose was useful?
Donna was also useful?
The Ponds were also very useful?
Even Clara (and I hate her) was very useful.
@@defgirzawa7583agree with everyone except Rose. On her own, she was very average.
Martha wasn’t my favorite companion but OHHH man was it great when she came back twice in season 4. She was so good as a character post-companion, and she really matured as a result of her time with 10.
Looking back on her, she's honestly one of the best companions in Doctor who. She didn't do what the Doctor told her if she knew it was wrong and she knew that the Doctor was looking down on her which is why she left
My top 5 companions:
1. Ace
2. Martha
3. The Ponds
4. Romana (Both 1st and 2nd)
5. Sarah Jane Smith
ANEXUS - Gaming and Video Making with Pride. Yeah, Martha is DEFINITELY in my top 5 best companions. Sometimes I don’t understand why people like Rose so much. I thought in some aspects she was quite rude, for example how she treated Sarah Jane Smith and I didn’t like how she just went with the doctor despite barely even knowing him. She was gorgeous though.
A real queen 😏
"God you're rubbish as a human" has to be a personal favourite Martha quote of mine.
same, and it's true he really is rubbish as a human lol
It's funny but it's also true.
'John Smith' was an absolute Asshole...
it really wasn't fair what they did to martha. i think she got so much hate because:
1. she came right after rose, who was a fan favorite, and they were going to dislike _anyone_ who replaced her.
2. she fell in love with the doctor (honestly, can👏🏻 you👏🏻 blame 👏🏻her👏🏻???)
i feel like they should have either kept martha's feelings platonic, or kept catherine tate as the companion in season 3 and added martha in season 4. but who knows if that would have subsided all the hate.
either way, she was an amazing character and was probably more of an equal to the doctor than river song was. -because at least she didn't let her love for the doctor control her actions or feelings.- 🤭🤭
also i feel like they started off with a fantastic character and kinda let her slip down hill
Martha is so underrated. I do understand how the doctor was so upset about losing Rose but when Amy was teleported away by the Weeping Angels the Doctor greeted Clara with open arms and treated her with great respect.
I'd like to think he learned his lesson with how badly he treated Martha. Also, different Doctors, different reactions.
Didn't he also basically spend ages in Victorian London grieving before meeting Clara. And then went to live in a 13th century monestry
Not at first, he tried to wipe her memory
Well not really he swear off partnerships after amy right? They had a nice friendship i thought but obviously u see so much more pain over rose which is weird cuz she was so annoying and useless and jealous. Im so happy martha toned down the jealous stuff and left .also martha help the doctor so much more and donna helped his broken heart better too .like the doctor just like his woman usless or something lol idk
Because the writers learned people won't like the new companion as much if the doctor does that. Plus the added the Impossible Girl mystery to distract the doctor and the audience from missing Amy.
"Then I could get sectioned!" I love that line
What does that even mean? Sectioned where?
Didn't notice it at the time
That a good thing?
@@Z3R0Steam It's sarcasm
I inow
Martha: Don't just stand there move!!!! GOd yOu'Re USelESs aS a HuMAn
"Scared and holding a gun, good combination, want to risk it?"
What a line haha
High-key the best companion. Sure, Rose was the love interest and Donna was the best friend but Martha is iconic all on her own, even without the Doctor. And she does still have great chemistry with him anyway.
She is fucking incredible. Practically every companion stayed with the doctor untill they forcibly couldn't. Martha knew she was giving up the most incredible life but she saw what it could do and was strong enough to leave.
Martha was my favourite companion of the new who. She's such a good character. It's a shame that many don't like her.
People didn't like her because she was in love with the Doctor. That pissed off the fan base who were mourning Rose. It annoys me because Martha deserved better but I can also see why she fell in love with him. From his companion's point of view a compassionate, brilliant, often handsome, man falls out of the sky and whisks you off on the adventure of a lifetime where you both save people across time and space and explore the wonders of the universe.
Who wouldn't fall in love with him either romantically or platonically like Donna? The Doctor and Donna were the best best friends ever I loved that they adored each other but it was never romantic. (I'm still heartbroken about Donna in 2019 and always will be.) I wish Martha and the Doctor could have had that kind of relationship so she could have avoided the heartache because she's awesome. But again I can't blame companions for loving the Doctor; but those mourning Rose did blame Martha for that and that's why so many people didn't like her.
I know. It's annoying when people don't like the characters when they replace their favourite. You don't have to like the new character but hating them is what I find annoying. Especially in a show like doctor who which is all about change. I also find it annoying that people who love rose hate on Martha because of what happened to her. I get that what happened to rose was sad but I think, in my opinion, that that whole story arc and rose as a character on the whole is a bit overrated. Yeah her ending was sad but she got a happy ending with the clone of the doctor. Other characters, like Donna had a even sadder ending. So hating on Martha because she fell in love with him when he wasn't over rose and because of what happened to her is so sad, is actually stupid. And objectively speaking, character wise, rose is not that strong, other characters like Martha and Donna and others are stronger.
It's mostly people who only like Rose. I adore Rose, she's one of my favourite companions of New Who, but I also love Martha to death. A lot of people don't realize you don't have to pick just one, you can like them both. There's no need to pit them against each other; you can just love them as a whole because they're both great characters with wonderful qualities.
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Martha: What’s your name then
Lucifer Morningstar. So tell me what is it you desire?
Tom Ellis is a Legend!
HOLY SHIT THATS ACTUALLY TOM ELLIS
holy shit i haven't finished doctor who yet i'm at the third season and i was thinking how great would it be to have tom ellis as the doctor if the series hadn't gone bad but he already starred in it 😭
@@astridkjellberg tbf Capaldi was also in a episode before he became the doctor so isn't out of the question
@@astridkjellbergAnd Martha's actress was in the end or S2 soooooo
I used to be part of the old doctor who fandom so I don’t know what’s going on now, but I always found it funny how the fandom in the old days used to say that Martha was horrible and how she was the worst character and interestingly she was the only black woman in the show... 🧐
"Looks scared..."
"Scared and holding a gun, good combination, do you want to risk it?"
im sorry but did the master just kill Lucifer, the devil himself? And his name was Tom? this changes everything
@Buba3987 Who was also Miranda's boyfriend.
And King Cenred for some reason.
King Cenred in Merlin
Never-mind that, I heard his name was actually Gary and he married a woman called Miranda in Surrey!
@@morningchblossom2485 Omg I just finished watching Merlin and he threw me off the whole time. Because here he's just an average nice guy - totally different character. As King Cenred he had the whole Lucifer demeanor and it confused the hell out of me everytime he was on screen.
Buba3987 also he has been on this show..
How? How do you neglect to include her most badass moment: the standoff with The Master?
"Is that your weapon? PRAYER?"
"Right across the world! But with fifteen satellites!"
Martha is my fav companion in the new series. She is smart, knows what to do, is a literal doctor and is rather independent and thoughtful.
She literally saved the world by walking around the world as it fell around her due to the Master and Toclafane. She never got caught thanks to her perception filter in the year she walked the earth and only got caught because she let herself get caught. She was fearless in her impending execution the Master was gonna do to her, and had the courage to smile and scoff at the Master even while she was kneeling before him on the verge of being executed.
Honestly Martha deserves more appreciation.
"God, you're rubbish as a human"
@@charlottedillon2467 would you stop spamming
Doctor Who just doesn’t have actors and actresses like this anymore it’s depressing. And I can’t believe you missed the parts where Martha openly laughs right in the masters face and wrecks his entire plans
Series 1-4 had the best acting.
ObiWan Kenobi the only ones that did awful were the 13th
Elliot Davies Billie Piper, freema, Catherine Tate, Hell even Jackie and all the irrelevant side cast who appeared in one off episodes are better actors then Matt Smith, Jenna Coleman, Karen Gillan, Maise Williams etc
Elliot Davies maybe it’s a British thing but we all think the acting us series 1 to 4 is miles better than 5-10. There’s just no comparison, just look at an episode like turn left for example, and then watch something like rings of Ahkaten. The doctor literally barking at an alien, Jenna’s cutesy head flicks, cringe one liners and over the top acting, Matt’s flapping and over the top performances. Yikes. Jenna is an amazing actress in things like Victoria and ‘The Cry’. But in Doctor who? Sometimes she was very poor.
Elliot Davies I get what you mean, there’s a fondness for nostalgia depending on what we grew up with, and I love Jenna’s performance in asylum of the Daleks. The only thing that lets that episode down for me is the cringe ‘Doctor who?’ chanting at the end. The Daleks decide to have an existential crisis and spin around in circles rather than.....exterminating an intruder on sight. All for a plot point that was never used again and retconned in time of the Doctor
Martha is still my favorite companion. Amy comes close to being my favorite for how long she was with the Doctor and how close they became, to the point where the Doctor was like family.
But Martha is so human. Her struggle with the Doctor and reason for leaving are so down to Earth and I find her compelling because she shows that the writers know that world ending conflicts in space and time don’t mean that interpersonal conflicts you’d see in real life don’t exist.
Yea amy had a very cool friendship with the doctor maybe cuz they were similar in age i guess but Martha shows a very real and human side ,alot was asked of her and her story shows how she was able to overcome the world with hardwork ,not super power .she's literally a doctor. Her whole story is about endurance. That's why i love the episode when they go to 1915. Only cuz its a family show we didn't see how they really would have talked to martha .she's just like ( i don't gotta fight cuz i know im better ) actually
Martha isn't my favorite, but she is a great companion for a number of reasons
-She has personality and spunk
-She's an actual doctor, making a nice foil to a man coasting on a medical profession's title
-She's competent and gets stuff done
-She's thinks for herself
-She's honest and accepts when things don't work out (ex. the Doctor and her)
-She's been through living for three months in the racist 1910s, being trapped by the weeping angels in the '60s, and surviving for a whole year on a war-torn earth just to save humanity - and STILL came out stronger.
Why does Hollywood keep making “powerful” females arrogant and snarky? Why can’t we have more women like Martha Jones? Martha Jones isn’t amazing because of some superpower or because she has advanced fighting skills or anything like that, Martha Jones is amazing because of who she is as a person. She doesn’t show she’s good through boasting about it, she shows that she’s good through her actions. We need more powerful, female characters like Martha Jones.
Very well said, 100%
Well said
That’s true, but a lot of powerful male characters are arrogant and snarky too. Nothing wrong with having arrogance as a personality trait/flaw, the problem is when someone who constantly boasts about themselves and has a superiority complex is treated by the narrative as completely in the right and rarely ever wrong. That’s how a lot of ‘Mary Sue’ characters are born.
@@thenablade858 I know but if a male character is arrogant and snarky most people don't like him either
This Is My Username So I Hope You Like It Personally, I don’t dislike characters (male or female) that are arrogant or snarky. My problem is characters who’s arrogance is never shown as a flaw to shed or as an obstacle in their relationships with other people which happens a lot and is very unrealistic. Arrogant, unlikable characters can be done well, so long as they’re not idealized by the narrative.
Martha: you haven't got a plan
Doctor: yeah I do, the plan was to get in here
Martha: then what?
Doctor: uhhhhh come up with another plan
"Porn music starts playing*...
No
Honestly I love Martha especially because she’s poc and the way her character written is beautiful she’s engaging and smart and she really really cared for the doctor and she has so much trust in him she’s my favorite
Martha is a character that just gets better the older you get, I didn't really like her as a child but as an adult I love her ❤
I loved her as a character. Dunno why RTD had to go ham with the whole crush thing
i know, it overshadowed her awesome personality and left a bad taste in my mouth about her :/
@@charlottedillon2467 why did you put that comment under every single comment on this video ?
Martha having the hots for the doctor is kinda milk toast but also...I can choose to see her humanity. She is badass, queen, steadfast, witty...and has a teeny tiny, massive crush on Doctor 10. I would ask "who wouldn't?" but then there is Donna and Me. 😅
Martha Jones needs more recognition, she was amazing
“Tom Milligan”
Me: no it’s Ellis
aka the Devil
6:37 Martha's "I do what I like" really shaped me as a young woman.
Being inspired by Martha is the definitely the right thing to do.
6:05 she should have concluded that with “and I can break every one of them”
How about "Sylvia Noble being every mother ever."
Nah, not every mother is terrible to their daughter
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England Wilfred slagging off Sylvia compilation.
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The most beautiful username ever.
Who's Sylvia Noble?
Shes always been my favourite. She was wildly independent, incredibly confident, and anyone who went through what she has would've gone insane
Martha is SUCH an underrated companion and it makes my heart swell seeing all this love for her in the comments ❤️
I feel like Martha was shit on. she was a really good character and the series treated her like crap and stuff. nice to see a bit of love for Martha here
@@charlottedillon2467 why do you keep spamming this?
Just not abit much love
TRUE and I wish we got to see more of her with braids apart from just the end
Such an underrated companion!
i know i'm late to this video but i'm revisiting it and i just have to say martha is probably one of if not the most badass of ten's companions. she literally took so many of the situations where any of the other companions would have been stuck and ran with it, taking control and getting everything fixed pretty quickly even without the doctors help. she honestly doesn't deserve the hate she gets- she's a great character. wish they'd treated her better in the end- least she got her happy ending, one of the only companions who can claim getting one, too.
The best companion. She’s clever enough to be a foil to the doctor whilst being compassionate and energetic. Perfect foil for Ten, and I love her growth into self acceptance across the series.
Martha Jones was very good, and Freema Agyeman did her very well. She is smart and steadfast (and the plots challenge her that way beyond what most companions have seen), and also has a very big heart and a romantic streak.
Talking to her mother on the phone while falling into the sun in "42", keeping watch over the Doctor in "Human Nature/The Family of Blood", spreading the word about the Doctor (and finding out the terrible secret of the Toclafane) in "Last of the Time Lords", and comforting her dying clone in "The Poison Sky": they gave her many scenes that could easily have degenerated into pretentious melodrama, but Agyeman consistently found a simple, starkly human expression that made them work.
Tom Milligan
Tom Ellis
LUCIFER MORNINGSTAR
LMAO right??!!?
I can't believe Tom Ellis was in doctor who xD, and I remember him now too! I get a lot of this when I rewatch Charmed as well. Recognizing actors.
@@isbammoi3358 yesssss
Gary Preston (If anyone knows what I mean)
Martha picking up a job to support the Doctor, while being a throwaway line, is such a good show of character
God, I love Martha so much. When she showed up in Torchwood I actually cried. It made me so happy to see her again.
Martha Jones was so underrated, she deserved better even if the doctor kept rejecting her 😂
I think she was rated completely normally.
Martha and The Doctor were the dream team and I’m so mad how the fandom treated her :/ their sarcasm was iconic togetherrr!! she was (and still is!!) my favorite companion
She made the Doctor approach things he didn't like to talk about on HER timetable, not his.
She was forced to be the problem solver of many of her adventures in place of the Doctor.
She saved the world on her own.
And then, she left on her own. Where most companions fall victim to one terrible circumstance or another that prevent them from continuing with the Doctor, Martha simply stepped away and found her own path for helping humanity advance.
Martha Jones was the Doctor's Apprentice, and she was brilliant!
She's so cute, funny, and likeable. Love her!
Wish she'd stuck around on Torchwood for season 3, she was a great addition to the cast. Though on the bright side she dodged miracle day.
Seeing Martha in Torchwood more would be amazing...but I'd feel so awkward if the more risqué scenes included her. With Jack it's alright cause he's...Jack. But seeing a companion like Martha made a regular character in a show full of swearing and sex would be so weird.
Oh god ,if she was in that then I'd hate the show lol i already dont forgive torchwood for that
@@komlat253 Whats wrong with the show? oO
Wow, so many iconic scenes with Martha... o wait this is every scene with her
Not only is she photogenically beautiful, she has a burning fire within her when she's under stress, and it's not to be messed with!
I remember growing up, people I knew never liked Martha...
I didn't understand why because I loved her from the first episode.
It was amazing watching her character grow, from vulnerable, polite and curious -
to ultimate bad ass, strategic, unapologetic and forceful.
In the end she learnt that she never needed the Doctor the way she originally wanted him,
AND THAT IS SELF-EMPOWERMENT #boss
What pissed me off but was also hilarious was how a lot of women who were interested in the doctor tried shitting on Martha because they were threatened by her.
Rose for example was obviously jealous of her and acted snarky towards her by saying “I was the first, not you”, because she just KNEW how inferior she was to Martha. Yet the doctor constantly chose her over Martha because… She’s blonde? Martha was just as bold as her and as human as her but was better in every way, shape or form. She didn’t need the Tardis to save the doctor as well. She did that all on her own with her own determination. Rose was okay, but it took Martha and Donna being with him to make me see just how much the doctor wasted on “loving” her. Donna challenged him, and Martha worked with him. Rose however only followed him, so what was so good about her??
Then there was the matron in the family of blood episode who was completely disgraceful towards Martha as well. I could accept her being a product of her time, but what disgusted me in that episode is that at the end, the doctor actually asks her to come with him. This isn’t even a “you, me and Martha travelling together” thing, he explicitly invited her to REPLACE Martha as his companion, and it’s only from the Matron saying no to his pleas that he resigns himself and goes back to the girl who put her back out for him by living in the 1900s as a black woman (KNOWING she would get horrible treatment from most people, including the doctor himself) as if he’s going back to a wrecked apartment after losing the lottery. What the actual fuck? The matron would have never done that for John Smith, so why is the doctor acting like he missed out on something good in having Martha his companion instead of the Matron who he’s known for three days?
It’s like there’s a pattern of women who knew they weren’t as good as Martha trying to compensate by acting awful towards her. And the worst part is that the doctor KIND OF encouraged this treatment by actively acting better towards them than he did with her. Even after all of these years, this pisses me off so much. Martha was too good for the doctor. Girl deserved better.
So
Judging by episodes including "Sontaran Strategem", "Poison Sky" and "Doctor's Daughter"
Donna was the only decent one of the females in the Tenth Doctor era to actually be nice to her 😅😂
Which is such a Donna thing to do 😁
I felt the exact same way. Why would he go to 1913 with a black companion??? 😕 and why did he ask the matron to be a companion over Martha???
As someone who dislikes romantic companions,the only good things that Rose offer to the Doctor is that she gives him hope and humanity (and also she was an improvement on how companions are written as a character).But the thing that even the show pointed out that crazed fangirls may fail to notice is that the Doctor,however handsome his face may be,is basically an uncomprehensibly ancient alien that is literally out of this world that came from a society with a wholly different moral code than ours.You can never stay with him,he will,and he *would* do something questionable.Even before Time War PTSD, 2 and 7 has their clownish persona to cover their dark sides.Rose is just another character in the show that you shouldn't wish yourself to be in their position.
He may be happy with Rose,but it makes him forget who and what he is.I'm glad after Rose he got companions that eventually knows their own worth and doesn't see him all puppy-eyed.
ill say it once ill say it again: martha would have been better for the doctor than rose: because she actually stood up to him and challenged him, and made him THINK instead of treating him like a king and accepting him as better and smarter without question.
i fucking love martha jones, she was the first companion i ever met and she is the reason that i got into doctor who, i will die on this hill
Basically like Donna Noble: The Prelude
I love Martha, she walked the earth for the person she cared about and yet she's hardly remembered.
I've always loved how diverse DW has been, and unlike most programmes instead of pretending racism doesn't exist they actually address it, but don't support it, which makes everything seem more real (very glad they don't support racism), when 12th punches the dude that insults Bill is just iconic 👏👏
Diverse? I haven’t seen any East Asian, Middle Eastern, or Hispanic companions
7:40 c'mon Martha be honest you just came all this way to see me
still struggling to conquer your shyness Jack?
my favorite line and its not even in Doctor Who
I love how she is a doctor in the show New Amsterdam 😂
shouldn't this be like her entire screentime
7:05 I forget Lucifer was in doctor who.
I just met this woman at the New Zealand Comic Con convention. She was really friendly and eager to talk!
I remember when I lived in the UK, I would always be home after school and watch Dr Who on CBBC!
You know what I'm about to say it...
I honestly think Martha was a good companion because she saved the doctor in more ways than one and did so many feats without any superpowers at all.
This is why I stand by Martha as my favorite companion!! She’s incredible and real and I love her so much
I have never watched a single Doctor Who but CZcams's recommendations just suggested me here and, this woman has me bawling
"GOOD OLD JK!!"
That didn't age well good god
Yes it did, JK is awesome
@@yrsruby5396 nah, she's transphobic
@@slyt1471 I love her!
@@yrsruby5396 yeesh..
@@slyt1471 no she isn’t
Is it just me who way preferred Martha to Rose? Honestly, she's so underrated.
You're not the only one
I think Rose is just overrated, aside from clara and bill I have preferred every other companion over Rose(I have refused to watch the female "doctor" and from what I hear it was a good decision).
@@lilchristuten7568 You've been listening to the wrong people. Jodie Whitaker is brilliant in the role. Part Tennant and part Smith. She makes a wonderful Doctor.
lil chris tuten LoL if you say “Doctor” because she’s female... Doctor Who doesn’t miss you
@@gina928 it's not a good adaptation of the doctor if it's just a mash of others. That's just boring. So much potential to create a great doctor now that she is a female but we got this. A waste.
She’s so clever and savage I love her
The Doctor helping Shakespeare defeat witches with a spell from Harry Potter has got to be the most British thing the world has ever seen. AND I AM HERE FOR IT!!!
The bit where Martha knocks on the door in Human Nature is everything, that was when I realised I truly liked her... shame it was so late in the series really. I got a newfound appreciation of Martha when I rewatched the series.