Johnse Hatfield and Roseanna McCoy: The Mountain Romeo and Juliet
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2021
- William Shakespeare told us about Romeo and Juliet falling in love despite their families being sworn enemies. That love affair ended with the couple lying dead on the floor. But the tragedy gave their families a new perspective and they ended their feud.
Today, in honor of Valentine’s Day, we’ll tell the story of another pair of star-crossed lovers. This couple was born on opposite sides of the famous feud between the Hatfields and the McCoys. Though they have been called the Mountain Romeo and Juliet, Johnse and Roseanna’s story differs from the older version in a few important ways. Be sure to watch to the end for a rarely told story about Roseanna's time in Pikeville.
Special thanks to local historian Reed Potter for his assistance in writing the script for this history moment.
Books Used in Research:
www.amazon.com/Hatfield-McCoy...
www.amazon.com/Feud-Hatfields...
www.amazon.com/The-Hatfields-...
Photograph Credits:
Neil Warren
Library of Congress
explorekyhistory.ky.gov
Charles Barger
courthousehistory.com
historycollection.co
West Virginia State Library
University of Pikeville - Allara Library
Altina L. Waller - Feud: Hatfields, McCoys, and Social Change in Appalachia, 1860-1900
Otis K. Rice - The Hatfields & the McCoys
Wikicommons from Kentucky Historical Society
West Virginia and Regional History Collection, West Virginia University Libraries
Big Sandy Heritage Center Museum
WV State Archives (WVSA)
Wvencyclopedia.org
Dr. Coleman C. Hatfield Collection
Williamson Daily News
www.civilwaralbum.com
The Ogden Standard, December 31, 1910
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Parts of this story are in a mini series with Kevin Costner called the Hatfields and the McCoys, It was a great miniseries ❤️
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That was a great mini series!
All the great actors did a great job, so much so I had to buy the DVD set, an I watch it yearly! My Dad's BFF was a McCoy, I favored the Hatfields.
It was very good. I've watched it several times but to the best of my knowledge its not all that historically accurate.
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It’s a mini series 🤦♀️
Fantastic miniseries too bad you got to now pay to watch season 1
I have always had interest in this story. Thanks for posting it.
Glad you enjoyed it
GREAT NARRATOR, SO RELAX AND DETAILED.
Beautifully done, very much enjoyed.
Thanks so much!
@@pikevillehistorymoments7860 Johnse Hatfield was pardoned after saving a prison guard / warder's life
Such a sad story 😔
That's the closest to the truth as far as we know of
That I've heard
When I first heard this story of the famous Johnsey, I thought to myself he must be a real looker. But then I seen a photo of him. Goodness he was quite homely.😳😳😳😳
I picked up the 3 DVD Costner version at a local store, (why I am here now:)). The people with the best "sense of life" in the movie were Johnsy, Probably Roseanna, Judge Hatfield, probably any of the little kids, and the very intelligent lady, considered "nuts" at the end of the movie, Randall McCoy's wife, (who I actually think was the most intelligent of them all, including the law). I understood exactly what she meant with her last words to her husband just before they shipped her to a mental hospital. It was Randall McCoy who needed some help. He had the hardest time figuring out reality of them all, and held deep grudges in confusion the most. It was a time and place where some people had no choice but to take the law into their own hands. There did not seem to be any local law enforcement, (or not effective proper law enforcement), there to take care of a murder. I bet there are lots of stories that started like this, but this one got out of hand and became historic.
Me too, love my 3 DVD set! I watch it a few times a year.
I don’t agree about Johnsy having the best sense of life. He went to marry five times. It only showcases that he was indeed the cad they say he was. Roseanne was clearly more of a hillbilly than Johnsy and this would have been her first foray into romance where she would have thought that they would be married. She came from a more Godly and righteous family but also a more reclusive family. The Hatfields were business people and more cut throat in their leanings. I actually understand Randall and his hanging onto grievances after all he was the one who lost his children, Anse lost none of his. McCoy kept his oath to stay on in the war while Hatfield was a traitor and a deserter. Feelings ran high during the war and for the South, after the war. They still do if truth be told. McCoy probably did have his pig stolen as well. So the McCoys lived in misery while the Hatfields having taken the low road with desertion only prospered. I think I would feel genuine hatred in those times towards the Hatfields as well. Then the very worst to have your house burnt down and children murdered while your wife received a fractured skull when she went to her daughter that had been murdered might just take the blessed cake for me if I were Randall. He was also taken as a POW and those camps that held the Southerners were notorious for the dreadful atrocities they did with their prisoners. A Southerner would never tell his tales of that though. To repeat though, while Randall kept his oath and suffered atrocities of war, Anse deserted and prospered and his family went on to kill many McCoys. Johnsy was nothing but a weak bastard that put more poison onto the family and with an innocent daughter of Randall’s who should have known better than to go against her own. While the Irish probably did it best over the years of hatred between the Catholics and protestants, how tell me, could i5 have been any different? If the other side killed one of mine then there could be no forgiveness. Which is the reason it went on so long.
Johnse was made to seem like a good guy, based on what I understand.. He was unfaithful, chose to let Roseanna and their unborn child walk away.. He married her cousin.. That doesn’t really seem like a very good guy to me..
Ellison, at least based on the mini series was the most level headed person in the two families
@@tracyanne8616 They stabbed Anderson Hatfields brother around 28 times and shot him in the back . Like a pack of Heinas ! It wasn't all poor old McCoy's ! Pretty offensive who you support . If you'd seen some of the horrors of the Civil War then you too might of just walked away ! Don't judge unless you have walked a mile in someone else's shoes.
I've climbed the mountain and visited Mr McCoy. Haven't had a chance to visit Mr. Hatfield. They both had to be huge influences, brothers at arm's.
I love this story
Ever since I was a kid in the SF Bay Area
Saw it on the history channel or PBS idk my dad was watching it
I dug deeper I a grew up
I wish I could have lived my life during these times...
I can't stand the way things are anymore. The times we live in these days are trash it's ridiculous!! If I can make one wish it would be to be alive for a hundred years during those times... I think technology is destroying the world and our people are being destroyed by technology and nobody notices it.. I can't stand the way people act every single day is a testament of why I cannot stand people... I also wish somebody could go back in time and talk some sense into these people and show them the outcome of their actions before they make the decision...
I am both a McCoy and Hatfield. I only finding this out a year ago. My father was from Kentucky My mother from Western NC. Dad passed when I was 2. I finally found some cousins in Kentucky. The McHenrys. My Dad was James Edward Hughes. My grandma was Cordila McHenry Hughes. My mother never took me back to Kentucky. But I was lucky enough to go spend time with my family. I have learned so much from them. Thank you for doing these videos. It helps me more than you could ever know. My mother's people in Western NC did not welcome me with open arm's. But my Kentucky people did.
Thank You ! I love this story .
Glad you enjoy it!
Great storytelling! Thanks for sharing
Thank you for sharing your wonderful video
We're so glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks for the upload Godbless
Sounds like she was more in love with him than he was with her. Men who really fall in love have no problem pushing other women away.
Amen!! Well said
The right woman can take a man away from his true love. Sometimes lust overshadows love. I know because it happened to a man I know.
Sad story
Randal McCoy sounded like a bitter man who was incapable of forgivness
He at least seems to have aggressively held onto this grudge. There are some historians that believe he likely suffered from PTSD due to his imprisonment in one of the most notorious prison camps during the Civil War. If that's true, it may have affected his behavior.
@@daffodil815 Bless your heart you poor soul
@@daffodil815 so? You’re still bitter
@@daffodil815 omg, grow up! This was over 100+yrs ago.
I'm a McCoy, and I think he had issues. There's some genetic disorder that causes tumors which can lead to outrages and behavior he(And other McCoys) exhibited.
It's called Von Hippel-Lindau disease.
Good luck! Wish I could show you all our feud paraphernalia!
The Hatfields and McCoys are so mean even their dogs carry guns!
Funny
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LoL 😂
Very interesting. I dated an old gal onetime here in Texas that claimed to be a descendant of the Hatfields which was her last name. Whether she was or not I don’t know.
So she wasn’t the “real McCoy?
You dated an "old gal? How charming!
@@vivians9392 thanks. She was a crazy old gal. I was with her almost a year. She wanted me to slap her during sex. She really had a taste for violence. Getting slapped around was a big turn on for her. She was a good looking old gal but I had to get away from her. She got to stalking me and that was scary. She would park her car in an alley across the street and watch my house. I finally had to take out a restraining order on her. I called the cops one night when she was watching me and they took her to jail. But her being a woman they didn’t do anything to her. One thing I learned from that old gal is there are as many mean women as there are men. She had been married 4 times. I guess that should have told me something but she convinced me that it was all the men’s fault and not hers and she had picked 4 bad men. I met her in a chiropractor’s office where she worked as a receptionist.
@@JohnDavis-yz9nq One hell of a story John she was the real deal McCoy my sister
@@popscyclep8084 That saying actually comes from a black inventor, Elijah McCoy! I'm a McCoy myself, and grew up hearing that saying was attributed to my family, but it's not the case! :-P
Got family there!
This is sad.
My family is from Dizney KY
Poor Roseanna. Her story is really sad.
Johnse Hatfield was a Rounder and a Cad. Roseanna deserved a better man. Romeo and Juliet? No, more like Lago and Juliet.
Hello , my name is Corinthia Faye Idell McConnell. My great grandparents are George and Martha Hatfield, I family is resting at Union cemetery.
Johnse was pardoned after saving a prison governors guards life possibly a fight or a hostage situation but he saved a man's life
It sounds like Johnsey was a womanizer and Roseannas father was a bitter old man turning his own daughter down!
From what I've seen and heard old man McCoy was just a bitter old man
That’s not love, that’s adultery!
Rosanna was treacherous
Roseanna was beautiful Jonsy not so much
My great aunt married a mccoy. They had a large family. On her death certificate it states her last 4 years were spent bedridden.
He was a weak man
We don't know what really went on between any of them