Michelin LTX M/S2 Tire Review | Hotshot Trucking
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- Let's review these truck tires! 66K out of this set driven hard on the regular!
Tires reviewed in this video are:
Michelin LTX M/S2 245/75/R17
Replaced with:
Firestone Transforce HT2 245/75/R17
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Thank champion Dave here from South Australia …The boys down under like them also
Noticed how not much has been said about their wet weather handling capabilities. These Michelin’s are worth the extra cost just for their ability to maintain traction and steerage when raining heavy or puddles are encountered.
After factoring in the additional mileage, Michelin tires are not that much more expensive than other brands. I would recommend them for anyone who who travels predominantly on the highway.
Those are great tires given that they are OEM. Never have had good luck with Firestones.
Good review. Thank you, Load Mizer!
Thanks Ricky...Think I know what I'll be running next. Thanks to you and a few other quality CZcamsrs out there that put out legit (un-hyped) content. I know as a newbie it sure helps me!!
Absolutely! No problem at all man, that’s what I’m here for.
@@LoadMizer Took me a couple months of looking thru CZcams and many different CZcamsrs channels on HotShot trucking to figure out who I could trust for honest content...but I think I got it dialed in now. I know just listening to content isn't a recipe for success but it sure helps when you're getting into something new.
Nothing compares to hands on but being prudent about research is a huge benefit. You’ll never stop learning.
I love those tires! I’ve had them in my truck for 5 years, and got about 80k. Second set are used and I’ve got 30k on some used tires and will run them till they POP!!!! Gotta get my money worth!
goood info buddy! haven't seen any hotshot review tires till now
Pd diesel I think is the channel. He has a fleet of hotshot trucks and semis. He reviewed a bunch of tires over time and made a few videos of the results.
I've run a bunch of different tires on my Super Duty over the years and the Michelins are my favorite. The original Firestone lasted a long time, but did not have as good of wet traction, same for the BFG Commercial TA which didn't get as good of mileage either.
I’ll be interested to see what the traction on these Firestone’s are like with winter here. I’m sold on the Michelin’s though.
Thanks for the video!
Run all Michelin on all my tow trucks. Never had any problems with them
I have defender ltx m/s ,not ms 2 ,on Ram 1500,I already put over 100 000 km on them wich is around 65 000 miles ,and this is the only tire that I will buy .they are absolutely great on snow,rain ,with a trailer in me ,,never had any issues
Can’t complain on the mileage you got out of them. I am the same way, I find something I like and stick with it.
Same tires I run. They wear funny on the outside edges (No matter air pressure it seems). But I usually got over 100k out of them. Sign up for OOIDA and you get them for $200 each. (usually around $250)
That’s good info for the non cdl side as far as tread life goes. If you’re getting 100k out of them keeping it under 26k makes a huge difference. 👍
Good shit!! Michelin is by far the best on road tire in my personal opinion.
Those tires are fantastic if you do a lot of miles every year. 70k is common. Bought several sets.
As I'm watching this I'm thinking about how my truck hydroplaned yesterday,time for tires I guess..Thanks for the info I'm gonna try those myself..
Yeah man that’s not a good feeling at all!
Operator error maybe?
@@Turfcat150 it was tires I got a new set and they helped tread water instead of riding on top of it!My trucks not very "tourqy" but it was a steep road
I've run the transforce HT2's plenty of times and then switched to the Michelins. The firestones won't come apart on you or anything like that. BUT...the HT2's will wear out so fast it is surprising. The michelins may cost a bit more but in my opinion it's a longer lasting and better quality tire.
My initial impression of the HT2’s so far is a noticeable ride quality difference. These things are rough compared to the Michelins and they pick up a ton of rocks.
firestone was a tire i wanted to try but with constant research on you tube i found alot of customers complaining about heavy rains and hydro plane down the freeway......... so im getting the Michelin for a few bucks more..
I didn’t run the firestones long but one thing I noticed about them that I didn’t like at all was that they were a rock magnet and couldn’t throw them the save their life. Terrible tires for picking up rocks. Those Michelin’s threw them out as soon as they picked them up. Go with the Michelin’s.
Dang my backs are needing replacing at 45751! My fronts look great though. Aluminum wheels make it a pain to rotate.
Ricky have you got shares in Michelin.Just pulling your leg .Keep up the good work 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
Haha nah I’m not much of a stock guy. Just an unbiased review of the tires I’ve been working with 👍👍
This was exactly what I was looking for in a review. I have a 2017 F350 with the factory Michelin’s on that are about done! It’s gonna hurt the pocket book but I am going to pull the trigger on these tires. What do you think about the factory tires on any vehicle being made out of really soft rubber where they don’t last longer than 20k + miles? Car or truck, this seems to be the case! Thanks again!!!!
Hey no problem man! I think it’s odd that the same truck coming from the same factory can have different sets of tires lol. I’m sure they get massive discounts on a particular brand and style. They’re most likely made for speed production instead of longevity. Seems to be my experience with lost factory tires. Some are top notch and some are terrible.
Hello, to you & yours. Do you have those tires in 19.5, I need some for my FORD f600 & 14 G trailer. Just listening, sitting on the sideline Good Information. later CSE
Looking for tires today myself. I have 55k on a set of Transforce AT2 and the rears need to be replaced.They've been good to me. They're a little under 4/32 right now. Im sure I could get a little more out of them but I don't like to roll the dice. I was considering the HT2's as an option but will look at the michelins. Any opinion on making a switch from the 235 80 17 that's on it to a 245 75 17? I see the load rating is a little higher.
Nice review...quick and to the point. Music intro loud....lol
Thanks man, I’m having to change everything, the mic I’m using now isn’t the same as when I made that intro. The settings are skewed lol
I have run many of tires. But the only one that never gave me problems was a Michelin!
All other tire companies dream of becoming a Michelin!
I don't know if I have driven as many miles as you but I have racked up allot!
You might want to look at their Michelin XPS truck tires. They are crazy good!
I hit a pipe that took a chunk out of the tire and drove on the tire for 2 more years!
The only problem is that the tire will last so long that the side walls will dry rot before the tread wears out!!! :(
That sounds like a problem you want to have! Haha. I don’t think they’d last that long pulling continuous freight on a daily basis but tires are a big piece of an annual maintenance fund and getting the most out of them is extremely important. Especially when people start adding vehicles and creating a fleet.
@@LoadMizer I use to run over Donner summit. Way overloaded... don't tell anyone will you? The Pothole freeway of the world. I got over 90k on Michelin XPS LT235/85R16. They don't SWAY much as the regular LTX tires... Because they are a full steel casing like a semi tires. You'll be shocked you will also get 2-6 mpg more than the standard LTX tires. If you ever feel as you going down a freeway and your truck sways... the wind get you? These tires will keep you on the straight road. Especially when your overloaded... or reaching your max. You know we would never do that? Then a neighbor wanted them... he ran them for 5 more years...he could not & did not believe me they were worth the money! And yes the tires were dry rotted on the side wall... eee... In his words they are as day & night. I also run them on all my trailers. One tire fits all.
That’s awesome man I’ll be doing some digging on these for sure! Thank you!
@@LoadMizer It will save you a lot of money in the long run. Plus allot safer. If you have 17" it is better to run 16" because you have much more shock absorption on the potholes & development from M. And not I don't me Pot Heads Holes Sales in CA. At one point I will proble goto 19.5" skipping all the rest sizes rims. Why they went to 17" 18" 20"I will never know? The larger rim size don't offer the shock absorption But the 19.5" Michelins have been out for along time. So they are well rounded too. I have done alot of research on this.
Personally I think Michelin and BF Goodrich are the best tires all around on the market. Those are the tires that I only put on my vehicles. Thank you for all your great information in the trucking industry, Load Mizer.
I agree with you there. Big benefit is that these tires weren’t rock collectors like others I’ve ran.
Cooper Discoverer are my new tire of choice after having them on my Ram 3500 for a few months now. HTX in the front (and Spare), ATX for the rears; really cuts down on bounce if the truck.
Fixing to pull off a set of Firestone transforce ht2s. Got 46000 roughly out of them.
Ouch! That is rough man.
Yeah for the price difference the Michelin’s are definitely the better choice. Did you rotate them?
The rears were swapped in the same rotational order on the rear once but the fronts stayed put.
I know this is a year later, but have those same tires from factory and I have 19300 miles on my truck and the rears need replaced already, why?
New sub from HSD Michigan check in thanks keeping it 💯
Welcome to the channel man!
Michelin are the best tires. I have been using them on my trucks for years, both pickups and semi's. There is no better in my mind.
I had massive success in the semi world with Michelin’s...Goodyear, very disappointed. It’s hard to lay the price difference down up front but to me it’s well worth it 👍
I get so.confused between the M/s and M/S2. Is there a difference?
Now you need to try and find best trailer tire . That’s my tough one . Can’t find any that last . 🤬
I think Michelin is making a run flat tire, kinda looks like a skid steer tire. Check them out,
Aren't those load index 112 (single tire) ? Where the M/S type is 121. Please, someone clarify. All the 245/75R17 M/S2's I see on the internet at rate 112S. That's only 2200 lbs?
You’re going to want the 121 load series. Search for tire size LT245/75/R17
Weight rating is 3,195
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Have you had any noise issues with defenders? I see alot of complaints about road noise
I didn’t notice any road noise at all with these.
Sounds like Enterpirse has a grip on
Thanks for the review! Heya, what are your thoughts on using an F350 as opposed to a 450 for pulling a 3 car wedge? I’m set on Ford (just because it’s what I know and I’m most familiar with) but I’m up in the air on 350 vs 450.
For the price point the 350 and 450 are very similar as far as construction goes. The ram differences are huge, different frame, axle, brakes etc. really the biggest benefit of the 450 is the turning radius and I think you get what...an extra 500 pounds on the rear axle? It’s not a major difference but the price reflects that as well. I’m actually in the middle of comparing all of these different models right now. That’s what I’ve learned so far but I haven’t gotten to Ford yet either.
@@LoadMizer awesome man. I’m looking forward to the review video. Keep up the good work. I truly appreciate the insight into starting up and the way you explain things makes them easier to understand! Stay safe!
Ford has the F450 in a pickup and a cab and chassis. Totally different trucks.
In my research the 450 can tow more but it only comes with 4:30 gears. Whereas with the 350 you can choose between 3:55 and 4:10. I’ve also been told by an owner of a 350 from Arkansas that he wanted a 450 to tow his own RV but needed a CDL because of the size of the truck to do so. So there’s that too.
@@charlesbernius8065 which gear ratio is better for pulling?
Mizer your thoughts on the hybrid HD3 19.5 Continentals my New Dually F450 runs the have 2000 miles on them.
I haven’t personally had any experience with that tire in the Hotshot world. One thing I’ve come away with from the semi side of things though is that continental or Goodyear have don’t nothing but disappoint me as far as tread life and wear goes. I’d be interested in you coming back to this a ways down the road and sharing your experience with them though.
Ok will do, I'll let you know down the line.
It's a new rig and not sure how short runs vs long run deliveries will affect the treads, I do lots of short runs.
Look at Big Truck Big RV. He had done a review of tires on his F450 a couple of times. He has also done a review of trailer tires for his RV. Those were posted some time back, so you might have to search for the info.
@@markbremmer8642 Thanks Mark, will look him up, check it out.
Just dropped off at Ford Dealer and saw the had a cab chassis F600 🤔
That’s just overkill and EXPENSIVE to buy and maintain.
@@LoadMizer was cab chasis was $67,000 idk i took photo of sticker to see what it said, curious bc never saw one
Were they ever rotated?
The rears were swapped once in the same rotational pattern. The fronts were never rotated.
How are they in snow ?
Spent plenty of time in Wisconsin and North Carolina last winter. Never missed a beat.
Were tires rotated at all?
Fronts never were. Rears were rotated straight across same direction once at 38k miles
Thats good coverage. My ram only got about 40,000. Glad to know Ford will last longer, hopefully these 19.5 are better! 🤞🏻
How often did they get rotated?
The rears were rotated once at 38k side to side in the same directional rotation. Basically inside out. Fronts were never rotated.
@@LoadMizer not bad at all under those circumstances. Makes me wonder why they didn’t go back with the same tire. But as I seem to be saying a lot lately, it is what it is! Thanks, stay safe.
I didnt read the comments yet 🙄
They have a national account with firestone. I’m sure they got a hell of a deal on them. Can’t blame them really, they don’t need longevity at this point.
And F450 has a defect of irregular wear on the front right i believe according to a technician at Ford! Nothing you can do about that irregular wear, he said just to buy another tire. 🤷🏼♂️
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Wanna know how to fix that problem? Take F450 drive it off a bridge or cliff, call and Uber and have them take you to a DODGE dealership and get you a Ram!!! Problem solved! Lol jk
@@priusrepellent 😂 yea well i have this F450 bc my Ram is STILL at the dealer 😞
@@azhauling4109 ahhh sorry to hear that bro! I love my second gen 24v with a 12v P-pump conversion!!!! So much power and best fuel economy even when pulling too!!!!
@@priusrepellent yea no worries, hopefully its all fixed and ready to go with no issues but we’ll see. I wish i got more then 10 mpg 😂
when it doubt Michelin...
oh SURE!!! I get THIS fukn alert lol Michelins wear like iron.
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Hit me up I’ll buy the old ones as well, I can get 20-30k more on the used ones!
Unfortunately enterprise gave them to the tire shop I was at. Their call for now while I’m still under them.
@@LoadMizer haha 10-4, keep up the awesome work man! Love the videos!
4 reasons I almost closed my business. Hmmmm.
That video was so full of shit he needed a plunger to edit it 🤣
@@LoadMizer OMG, best reply ever
😂 😭
Tire review lmao on a truck that ain’t his !!! Kind of pointless we knew Michelin are better hmmmm oh yeah TP let us know months ago lol