Snake-Eye Completely Destroyed YCS Indy..This Format Is Cooked (What The Heck Happened)

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Komentáře • 397

  • @JuwanBuchanan
    @JuwanBuchanan Před 2 měsíci +173

    The banlist did exactly what it was supposed to do…sell more product.

    • @nikoprower32
      @nikoprower32 Před 2 měsíci +9

      I was gonna say absolutely nothing, but yeah that too

    • @zzZDarKCroWZzz
      @zzZDarKCroWZzz Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yup, i understand them not wanting to hit the core strategy this early as players spent a lot of money on it but cmon best they could do was a scapegoat linkuriboh ban? At least pretend they care about game balance and semi a card or 2 like ocg did.

    • @mihawk7835
      @mihawk7835 Před 2 měsíci +6

      But according to people and youtubers banning barron and savage would fix everything 😂

    • @jay8443
      @jay8443 Před 2 měsíci

      How does the ban list sell more product? (sorry new to all this)

    • @vladr.9191
      @vladr.9191 Před 2 měsíci

      linkuriboh was definetly the problem...

  • @SolidusBR
    @SolidusBR Před 2 měsíci +79

    Linkuriboh died for nothing. 😭

    • @rodeofrancisco6130
      @rodeofrancisco6130 Před 2 měsíci +3

      On god

    • @jamespolk6146
      @jamespolk6146 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Apparently it enables all Level 1 monsters to be dodged from Hand Traps like Imperm or Veiler. That's why Linkuriboh had to go.

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion Před 2 měsíci

      No, just not enough with it.

    • @rodeofrancisco6130
      @rodeofrancisco6130 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@jamespolk6146 I play drytron. It does nothing more than make nova a better card and get an extra body for the board.

    • @some2043
      @some2043 Před 2 měsíci

      ​​@@jamespolk6146 the top players couldn't for their life remember linkuriboh is in grave and were imperming/veilering the lvl 1s for their search effect , and have proven that their complaints were a skill issue

  • @spicymemes7458
    @spicymemes7458 Před 2 měsíci +60

    I haven't thought of a single ban list as anything other than a vehicle to sell products since 2012. Nobody should be banking on a ban list to end formats anymore. It usually means there is another one to exploit right around the corner.

    • @Greg501-
      @Greg501- Před 2 měsíci +3

      Like new FTKs in INFO

    • @dariuspenner2528
      @dariuspenner2528 Před 2 měsíci

      SE didn’t change at all with LEDE and likely won’t change with the new fiend link stuff. Yes it represents a 1 card SE combo, but so does Ash, which the deck can fetch with the Diabellstar engine and Bonfire, so a quarter of your deck can fetch the card. Consistently isn’t an issue. If anything, the minimal hits to SE are doing the opposite because none of the new stuff is good enough to replace SE. That’s the opposite of pushing product.

    • @thekittenfreakify
      @thekittenfreakify Před 2 měsíci

      FTK'S mean jack this era.

  • @AussieRiolu447
    @AussieRiolu447 Před 2 měsíci +9

    This is Snake-Eye's 8th consecutive YCS win in the TCG, breaking the previous record of 7 with Tearlaments.

  • @vanguardRailgun924
    @vanguardRailgun924 Před 2 měsíci +76

    That YCS was such a joke…..more proof the last ban list did nothing to solve the actual problem and actually made it worse.
    At least we got funny memes like Double Nightmare lock and crossout designator on skill drain.

    • @spicymemes7458
      @spicymemes7458 Před 2 měsíci +26

      The ban list did exactly what it was designed to do: sell more product

    • @apoocumber4164
      @apoocumber4164 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Format isnt that bad

    • @jimimcmahon4522
      @jimimcmahon4522 Před 2 měsíci

      You must be new to the game yes?

    • @nigamnation
      @nigamnation Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@spicymemes7458What product is it selling? Snake eye dominating is not good for LEDE and INFO sales lol

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@jimimcmahon4522 No I’ve been around for years buddy since mid Zexal Era

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Před 2 měsíci +37

    Honestly this is what the game State is when you had a diverse format but had some pro players complaining that they didn't know how to fight against unknown decks! I have no sympathy for any of them because now you got Snake eyes this and Snake eyes that! Enjoy your predictable pie 🥧!!!

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Evidence?
      Otherwise copium.

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@soukenmarufwt5224literally videos in this channel and well as posts online.
      Now I think k the REST OF THE COMMUNITY shouldn't suffer for ish takes, but....

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion Před 2 měsíci +14

      @@soukenmarufwt5224Pro players prefer Tier0 because of the quote on quote: skill level and lack of unfair matches.
      Meot people, like myself prefer diverse formats.

    • @xXNeoNashXx
      @xXNeoNashXx Před 2 měsíci +1

      I really would of loved to of seen mathmech, full power race and unchained play in this format. This shit is so fucking boring. I roll my eyes everytime i have to verse it too now

    • @OseiTheWarriors
      @OseiTheWarriors Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@@soukenmarufwt5224it's not copium pro players were complaining about diverse formats with some even wishing for Tear 0 over it some dude made a video about it that went viral-ish, and I think Pak said something similar

  • @Magician2086
    @Magician2086 Před 2 měsíci +28

    I still find incredible that even tought there are some really good decks like Voiceless Voice, Tempai, Branded, Melodious, Yubel, etc and yet Snake-Eye still stomps everything. It's time Konami does something, tier 0 is never a good thing.

    • @VictorFC
      @VictorFC Před 2 měsíci +2

      The deck has no lock, has 12 one card startes and immense space for techs. No other deck is better in any of these points.

    • @mrharvy100
      @mrharvy100 Před 2 měsíci

      Yes they are all good. They are not good as current full power SE. In TCG SE is currently the blatantly best deck at full power. It’s too consistent, multiple 1 card combo routes, zero locks, they can search any level 1 fire, and GY is a disruption pile on top of what else they have in hand + field. They also do their same combo during your turn if you’re unlucky enough to go 2nd and didn’t draw two handtraps.

  • @vm141789
    @vm141789 Před 2 měsíci +60

    The last time I liked Snake Eyes, I was playing Monopoly.

  • @lilpotayto
    @lilpotayto Před 2 měsíci +12

    "Labrynth might be the best deck to take on Snake Eyes."
    Me, a Labrynth player, beaten and bloodied on the floor after being whooped by SE 0-4 at locals: "Y-yeah... Haah... Don't worry guys... I got this...."

  • @Jianichie
    @Jianichie Před 2 měsíci +28

    "If not; to Hell with you."
    Well, alright then. 😢

  • @the199dirtrider
    @the199dirtrider Před 2 měsíci +53

    3 tier zero formats in less than 3 years?

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion Před 2 měsíci +6

      3? You mean 2?

    • @looneyloonatic
      @looneyloonatic Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@darknessnaxxiontear Kash snake eye

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion Před 2 měsíci +11

      @@looneyloonatic Kash, as a player for it, never hit tier 0 (it was close).
      I’d consider it, since it’s one of my favorite decks, but I’ve never seen anyone actually say it was truly.

    • @thejankenthusiast1285
      @thejankenthusiast1285 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@darknessnaxxion Two Formats in a row is Snake-Eyes tier 0

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Před 2 měsíci

      Which is the 3rd one? I guess spright in the OCG was a tier 0 deck, but in the TCG there were only 2.

  • @dr.c6260
    @dr.c6260 Před 2 měsíci +116

    No I don’t like snake eye

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Snake-Eye is the first deck I genuinely hate and its players are just as obnoxious.

    • @FallenStarPunk
      @FallenStarPunk Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@vanguardRailgun924 I agree.

    • @jtalkalot19
      @jtalkalot19 Před 2 měsíci

      What tier 1 deck do you like?

    • @dr.c6260
      @dr.c6260 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@jtalkalot19 I like a lot of tier 1 decks from previous formats, most of them really. I even liked dragon rulers and nekroz, but snake eyes is a frustrating deck to play with and against even as an engine

    • @jtalkalot19
      @jtalkalot19 Před 2 měsíci

      @dr.c6260 Okay. That's fair. I don't consider snake eyes to be worse than rulers or nekroz at their peak. I consider snake eyes to be like playing against Zoo in late 2016. Deck was very strong but beatable.

  • @oppenheimergamer
    @oppenheimergamer Před 2 měsíci +38

    You forgot to mention the tinfoil playmat

  • @isaiah1738
    @isaiah1738 Před 2 měsíci +31

    I dont mind powercreep but it is kind of crazy weve gone from spright to tear to kash to this and now it might be fiendsmith next the unchained race meta was perfect its better when multiple decks are good like toss format

    • @randomuserinfinity8600
      @randomuserinfinity8600 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Bro, you just made me shed a few tears..., i miss AGOV format(and even the mzmi pre phni one), already feels like ages

    • @acasualgameryt6978
      @acasualgameryt6978 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I can't believe we went from Bologna format to this. More than 12 handtraps wasn't even the norm back then and now Snake-eye and many more decks like it (Tenpai) are filled with 20 handtraps.

    • @isaiah1738
      @isaiah1738 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@randomuserinfinity8600 format was so good that people were saying there's to much diversity like what

  • @Clonekiller66
    @Clonekiller66 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I don't have any witty or snarky comments to make. I just really really hate Tier 0 formats and I hate how Snake-Eyes requires you to have 4+ hand traps in your opening hand to actually stand a chance.

  • @odd-eyesdragoon
    @odd-eyesdragoon Před 2 měsíci +16

    I’m just gonna play WATER Xyz once “Rage of the Abyss” comes out.

  • @randommaster06
    @randommaster06 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I can't wait for Konami to power creep the game and we start calling Snake Eye too low-power and inconsistent for the new meta.

  • @shuckeegaming
    @shuckeegaming Před 2 měsíci +8

    The bad part is Konami just announced Ash will be in the 2025 tournament packs, which you KNOW they'll make it an ulti. Count that card out being banned for a while longer.

  • @rolodwayne5841
    @rolodwayne5841 Před 2 měsíci +3

    We went from tier 0 to tier 0 to tier 0 wth

  • @Maxst33le
    @Maxst33le Před 2 měsíci +15

    I hate snake eyes in masterduel

  • @d.r.6177
    @d.r.6177 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Building and theory crafting snake-eye decks is so much fun and skill intensive.
    It is so sas to see it break down to hand trap wars...
    I hope something will be done against it, but I am also very happy that Baronne and co are gone!

  • @cyberdragon1339
    @cyberdragon1339 Před 2 měsíci +10

    One of the big issues I'm seeing is that outside of labrynth, there's nothing that is eye-opening enough for these top players. HERO, Melodious, Salamangreat, and Branded all have their ability to combat this deck. Unfortunately, this game is a 2-3 turn format where you need to build a board or else you get fucked. INFO is gonna shake up the format definitely with Fiendsmith, Gimmick Puppet, and maybe White Woods. The year of fire might come to a close, but it's at the cost of the format being an FTK format.

    • @darkmagicianfan3423
      @darkmagicianfan3423 Před 2 měsíci

      Fiendsmith snake-eye is really good… 😬

    • @cyberdragon1339
      @cyberdragon1339 Před 2 měsíci

      @darkmagicianfan3423 I'm not discounting that. I'm just praying to the gods that we get a good banlist before INFO releases

  • @supervanadazol8197
    @supervanadazol8197 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Um.... The city that's shown is not Indianapolis... Its Philadelphia. Center City (downtown) to be exact. I'm from Philly and recognized it instantly.

    • @allthatishere
      @allthatishere Před 2 měsíci

      Philadelphia has that exact same building/layout.

    • @drewtoya8015
      @drewtoya8015 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'm from Indy and I knew it wasn't Indy instantly lmao

  • @Trekkie46
    @Trekkie46 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I'm not sure what's more annoying. Another Tier 0 deck that laughs at the ban list or that the second best is Lab.

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 Před 2 měsíci +16

    How is this game still alive? Hasn’t it been “killed” so many times?

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Click bait
      Copium
      Casuals don't support this game anyway
      OCG had way worse even before TCG was created list goes on.
      Elites will keep Going no matter what. Knowing full well Konami doesn't care about their IPs. Either support or join the graveyard along its other dead ips

    • @allthatishere
      @allthatishere Před 2 měsíci +5

      Nothing truly dies, man.

    • @CelestialDeathscythe
      @CelestialDeathscythe Před 2 měsíci +2

      Zombie Master & baledroch keep it alive aided by the waifu taxes sucked out of the players

    • @David-hw9si
      @David-hw9si Před 2 měsíci +2

      the vocal people that whines about this game are the ones that spend 20 dollars a month on it and then want everything reprinted to the ground, or every expensive deck burned down.
      SE 100% need a significant nerf, but the amount of ignorance people have when talking about that deck, as well as most meta decks, is just baffling.

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla Před 2 měsíci +1

      This game won't die because players never stop playing it.
      Even people who have "quit" still have some decks, play online, or watch content.
      Most return when their favorite decks gets support.

  • @Syncrafter
    @Syncrafter Před 2 měsíci +3

    I keep seeing people saying Apo/I:P and other strong generic ED monsters should be banned. No it is definitely not the newly released overpowered archetypes which can run 20 HTs, that have 15 one card starters, out of which 10 are extenders and most have a recursion effect, that are the problem. If somebody told me 2 years ago that linkuriboh is a problematic card I would have thought that the person is on drugs.
    Oh yeah and don't forget to ban all the newly affordable cards.

    • @nearn8517
      @nearn8517 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Generic ED monsters like those two aren’t healthy long term. There’s no doubt that tier 0’Snake Eye is the problem, but those cards restrict card design and gameplay.

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla Před 2 měsíci

      It doesn't matter if these cards are banned, old decks will still not be competitive.

  • @CobaltAxeldragon
    @CobaltAxeldragon Před 2 měsíci +8

    Ban every single Snake-Eyes card on sight. Ban every last one of them. Justice for Baronne.

    • @guiguithebeast
      @guiguithebeast Před 2 měsíci +2

      and for savage

    • @moonjelly5
      @moonjelly5 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@guiguithebeastSavage was even more unjustified.

    • @artificerprime4154
      @artificerprime4154 Před 2 měsíci

      And then what? We get to see Baronne, Savage, Apo, and so on splashed in a future Tier 0 deck? Is it really that difficult to understand that powerful generic Extra Deck negates is its own issue separate from the specific degenerate deck using them? Yes, Snake-Eyes should be hit hard at this point, but Snake-Eyes is a symptom of a much bigger problem with the game, which is insane power creep and Konami using the banlist to push product.

  • @Gucci.Clone253
    @Gucci.Clone253 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This is the third tier 0 format in a row. I think if they do one more this game is gonna see some serious decline

    • @dariuspenner2528
      @dariuspenner2528 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Even if you’re counting pre and post-ban list SE as 2 separate formats for some reason, it hasn’t been 3 in a row. The format preceding the first tier 0 SE format was AGOV format, which was insanely diverse. The last tier 0 deck we had before SE was Ishizu Tear. Nothing else we had since made the long established tier 0 threshold of 65% or more of top cut

  • @lokitired3751
    @lokitired3751 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Something I just wanna say is I hate how a lot of people in social media were complaing about SE and stating that Tear was less of a problem.
    Tear was just as oppressive as SE is to any other non Tear deck, sure there was more interactive gameplay in the mirror matches but it doesnt mean it was any less fun for somebody playing any other deck. I guess what Im trying to say is SE, Tear and tier 0 formats arent fun and comparing which one was less oppressive is like comparing apples and oranges.
    I hope they just ban some key cards of SE or unban Kash/Tear cards so I stop seeing people complain about SE

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'd prefer the former....
      Honestly, tier zero decks DESERVE to be hit rather hard

  • @derekfreiley7980
    @derekfreiley7980 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I waited for years for Fire to be a good attribute :( this isn’t what I wanted

  • @youwayo
    @youwayo Před 2 měsíci +5

    Time to start using Barrier Statue if the Torrent

    • @guiguithebeast
      @guiguithebeast Před 2 měsíci

      and for it to be banned next banlist , because konami will remove that floodgate too

  • @nickolasberrian9565
    @nickolasberrian9565 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Who would have thought the first time they give fire something it completely blows up everything

    • @artificerprime4154
      @artificerprime4154 Před 2 měsíci

      That tends to happen when you have zero actual restrictions on the FIRE support in an era where you have plenty of powerful generic Extra Deck monsters. Promethean Princess only locks you into FIRE while she's out on the field, but Links being what they are, that's trivial to get past. None of the Snake-Eye cards lock you into FIRE at all, so of course they'd be used for generic Extra Deck spam like I:P and Apo.

    • @nickolasberrian9565
      @nickolasberrian9565 Před 2 měsíci

      @artificerprime4154 pretty much if they had the restriction of only summoning fire monsters for the rest of the turn, I don't think they would be as strong honestly.

  • @Promin3nce
    @Promin3nce Před 2 měsíci +2

    Even though snake eyes isn't as oppressive as other Tier 0 decks were, we absolutely need an emergency banlist - and we needed it yesterday.
    As you are reading this konami should be already posting it. That is how critical it is.

  • @jaredricci9278
    @jaredricci9278 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Wait if they dont take care if things fiendsmith snake eyes gonna be even worse

    • @kish45
      @kish45 Před 2 měsíci +3

      What about if Konami started doing something for their banlist similar to what Digimon did for theirs? Basically Digimon has a banned pair section that has 2 components A and B and if a deck is using cards from A then they can’t use cards from B. So say for example Snake Eyes was component A and Fiendsmith is component B that would mean a deck that is using SE can’t use the Fiendsmith cards.

    • @sallas09
      @sallas09 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@kish45 I think this is such a cool evolution for the game and I really want them to implement it.

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thats just the Duel Links banlist​@kish45

    • @kish45
      @kish45 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@stonalisa3729 Nope it’s a completely different thing.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@kish45 That being said, we could apply the duel links ban format for the extra deck so you are actually limited in what you can play.

  • @Jaganphotos
    @Jaganphotos Před 2 měsíci +2

    I’m fairly confident we’re getting a mini banlist at the end of the month at the earliest (read: before WCQ). Snake-eyes wrecking most other decks is crazy already - making Fiendsmith legal the day of the event is where I’m like “nah hit the deck.”

  • @PaperYGO
    @PaperYGO Před 2 měsíci +3

    I took snake eye to a regional a couple weeks ago and topped after literally one night of practice. Every game felt like I had 10 more cards than my opponent. The deck is too free and needs multiple hits.

  • @lordofthered1257
    @lordofthered1257 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Cap G are you working on a yugioh story video? Those are your best and most entertaining videos. Thanks.

  • @nikoprower32
    @nikoprower32 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Gee... Konami made an extremely overpowered and versatile archetype... What did yall think was gonna happen. This is why they need to go ahead and ban or limit Snake Eye... like now.

  • @skiletkilla
    @skiletkilla Před 2 měsíci +5

    I can't wait for the next banlist where they ban tenpai and voiceless cards

    • @reddragonstudios1
      @reddragonstudios1 Před 2 měsíci

      Why would they ban Tenpai? Its doing whats supposed to be doing, OTK, you jsut dont like the deck

    • @skiletkilla
      @skiletkilla Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@reddragonstudios1 it was sarcasm bud

  • @mrevilducky
    @mrevilducky Před 2 měsíci +4

    I love smoking snake eye hash

  • @TheMeetymeet
    @TheMeetymeet Před 2 měsíci +5

    Though I am happy they went for the ED monsters, I'm pretty sure a lot of players knew SE was still a problem. Just go for Poplar and call it a day, really. It's where it all started, right?

  • @artenitalewis1541
    @artenitalewis1541 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Why and how did they kinna handle the snake eye problem better in MASTER DUEL?

  • @ImHim_BelieveIt
    @ImHim_BelieveIt Před 2 měsíci +4

    imagine hitting sharv to 1 to make sure we get a T0 format

    • @lilpotayto
      @lilpotayto Před 2 měsíci +6

      Sadly, even full power Unchained wouldn't have been able to compete with this. Tearlament with Kitkallos unbanned is prolly the only thing that could contend but that's an Alien vs Predator sort of situation.

    • @siphemanana2551
      @siphemanana2551 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@lilpotayto if Tear got Kitkallos back. It’ll literally be Dragon Rulers vs Spellbook 2.0

    • @chewdoom8415
      @chewdoom8415 Před 2 měsíci

      @@siphemanana2551 Yep. Bystials are still around and the limits make them more impactful, but making reino a one card starter is enough to take the deck over the top again. The deck already got indirectly buffed due to the Banning of baronne and savage lowering the reducing the power of end boards across the board.

  • @jackych3n
    @jackych3n Před 2 měsíci +4

    Wish they featured more time wizard content. Hoping for another banlist before nats.

  • @lordofthered1257
    @lordofthered1257 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have got to be honest I am just playing decks I love, like labyrinth, eldlich, and branded, with friends, and old formats like Yata, Goat, Perfect Circle, YCS Long Beach, and 2016 Monarch PK Fire, and TOSS.
    The best thing about old formats is that none of the cards are getting banned and once you have a decent card pool you don't need to buy more.

  • @Byrdstar6423-un3me
    @Byrdstar6423-un3me Před 2 měsíci +2

    All of these tier 0 formats all at once oh my God this game is screwed

  • @nearn8517
    @nearn8517 Před 2 měsíci +1

    BAN:
    • Snake-Eye Ash
    • Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess
    • I:P Masquerena
    • Promethean Princess
    Limit:
    • Bonfire
    • WANTED: Seeker of Sinful Spoils

  • @mageface2815
    @mageface2815 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Can we start a petition please to make toons relevant and at least half decent in the meta, not asking for much

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 Před 2 měsíci

      Petitions never work, neve have. Anyone that believes otherwise never worked at a real company or corporation.
      The only way toons will ever be beyond casual tier is remaking them and scraping their gimmick.

    • @mageface2815
      @mageface2815 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@soukenmarufwt5224 Ohh 100% man you've got better luck winning with a starter deck, I just love the old school decks and cards too much and wish they were more viable in modern duels

    • @reddragonstudios1
      @reddragonstudios1 Před 2 měsíci

      You want to make Toons relevant? Give it a new Level 4 that has added protection for Toons, on top of giving them effects that just dont include attacking directly or banishing but rather disrupts the opponent

  • @CrisisCore62
    @CrisisCore62 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The way to hit Snake eyes:
    Put flamberge to 1
    So oak does'nt summon the second flamberge from the deck or hand
    Also i was watching the ycs on Joshua Schmidt's Twitch live with farfa, Joshua Schmidt and everybody from the twich
    And it was funny seing all the mirror matches and everybody getting tired of Snake eyes 😂

  • @DragonWaffleX
    @DragonWaffleX Před 2 měsíci +3

    So does this mean this is another tier 0 format?

    • @jamespolk6146
      @jamespolk6146 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes it is.

    • @DragonWaffleX
      @DragonWaffleX Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@jamespolk6146 Sads. No deck diversity makes jack a dull boy.

    • @jamespolk6146
      @jamespolk6146 Před 2 měsíci

      @@DragonWaffleX 65, 66% says otherwise on the representation. Sad as it is. Even with the Extra Deck hits, it didn't do enough

  • @user-ml5xd5td6r
    @user-ml5xd5td6r Před měsícem

    Gotta love the decision making over at komoney

  • @aceclover758
    @aceclover758 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Snake eyes is just too broken
    When I can have 2-3 hand traps on turn 1 and two board wipe cards on turn 2 yet they easily come back, you know it’s screwed
    I just surrender whenever someone plays it in master duel
    No point in wasting time and giving them satisfaction

  • @nbonasoro
    @nbonasoro Před 2 měsíci +10

    I dont understand the people saying snake eye cards need to be banned. The issues are: IP, skill drain, princess, and apo. Ban those cards and snake eye is just like any other link spam deck. Anything harder just destroys the deck.
    What would the hits need to be? Access to ash would need to be less consistent so you need to limit: bonfire, wanted, witch, ash, field spell, and oss. The card is so searchable that as soon as you touch 1 card that searches it, the others become played in more copies in each decklist. Lets say you limit ash, the decks just play 3 oak and a fiendsmith engine to make beatrice to dump the ash so oak can revive. Are we going to ban beatrice and oak too?

    • @adragonssoul5200
      @adragonssoul5200 Před 2 měsíci

      Just ban Snake-Eye Ash directly, none of those are possible otherwise. Also no, deck isn't dead, Poplar can still do a 1-card combo, however its significantly weaker. (At least I wish they'd do that but the OTS reprint says otherwise, so Flamberge likely will die.)

    • @nbonasoro
      @nbonasoro Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@adragonssoul5200 Then rank 4 engines like melodious make infernal flame banshee to search poplar. Poplar will need to be banned too. At that point is it even a snake eyes deck anymore?

    • @h3llg3ar
      @h3llg3ar Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ash just got an ulti revealed in the next OTS, so fall will be the best time to expect an actual hit to the deck. So start learning how to make your Rogue decks busted AF, because everyone will burn off the dice until the fall 🎲

    • @adragonssoul5200
      @adragonssoul5200 Před 2 měsíci

      @@nbonasoro Ash Oak Summoning Flamberge gg? Without Snake-Eye Ash that deck becomes absurdly fragile to handtraps, which would be the point.
      As I said though OTS reprint they're just gonna kill Flamberge, if you wanna take it a step further, limit Ash, Poplar, and Wanted. I can see people demanding that tbh as a hit similar to Tear, even though I'd say its slightly extreme

    • @adragonssoul5200
      @adragonssoul5200 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@h3llg3ar They can still ban Flamberge at the least, I'll be very surprised if that thing survives the next list.

  • @cypherneticgaming3281
    @cypherneticgaming3281 Před 2 měsíci

    Like we didn't see this coming. Konami thought hitting Baronne and Savage would change things😂.

  • @theerealatm
    @theerealatm Před 2 měsíci

    I just started master duel after about a 2 year hiatus. I come back to play my heroes... And I'm like wtf is all this?! This game evolved so fast. You can Maxx c someone and they'll pass and then start special summoning hella times on YOUR turn.

  • @vladr.9191
    @vladr.9191 Před 2 měsíci +2

    "oh you play snakeeyes what a coincidence me too"
    btw snake eyes ash is getting an ulti reprint so no ban i guess

  • @jojomations2596
    @jojomations2596 Před 2 měsíci

    Seeing Kuriboh in the gy blew me away lol. That person was using the OG handtrap

  • @ThesKeLeKRoN
    @ThesKeLeKRoN Před 2 měsíci +1

    I can’t wait for white woods

  • @macmac6064
    @macmac6064 Před 2 měsíci +6

    so the game is p2w irl too

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Always has been.
      Have you been loving under a rock?

    • @macmac6064
      @macmac6064 Před 2 měsíci

      @@soukenmarufwt5224 yeah

    • @duncankeary6767
      @duncankeary6767 Před 2 měsíci

      Pay to compete. Winning is a split of talent and lu....the heart of the cards 🤣

  • @christianmayonove6914
    @christianmayonove6914 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Yeah, you’re being way too kind here. Maybe for monetary reasons or for sponsorship on the back end, idk I’m new here. But to hear you say “this approach didn’t work” disgusted me. Of course it wouldn’t work. It’s 2024, the game is 25 years old. If you don’t think Konami knows how to make an effective banlist then you’re a fool. This banlist was 100% profit driven, and will go down as a stain in YGOs history.

  • @griffen121
    @griffen121 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Once gimmick puppets come out that will change

  • @justinpennington6680
    @justinpennington6680 Před 2 měsíci

    What’s funny is I’ve been not playing too seriously, I played a ton during kash and tear format. However, I’m getting back into it, so I heard all the noise regarding snake eyes. Built it on Edopro just to try it out of curiosity of how powerful it is. No shot bricked hard af on handtraps and lost to the dark magician bot💀. Didn’t draw engine for like 4-5 turns😂

  • @lip124
    @lip124 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I'm sick of snake eyes🙄🙄

  • @VictorFC
    @VictorFC Před 2 měsíci

    Remember that pepe was hit in like 2 weeks while zoo was around for almost a year. Its not a new thing. Emergency lists simply doesn't exist, balance hits doesn't either. Its simply "play that for 2 formats and win, then play another thing".

  • @RogueHero
    @RogueHero Před 2 měsíci +1

    YCS Indy was a blast , i just wish snake eyes wasn't so OP . The only time i lost that match up is due to either them top decking or them going 1st game 3 and i opened no hand traps.

  • @artificerprime4154
    @artificerprime4154 Před 2 měsíci

    At this juncture, Konami may need to start making hard locks more of a thing on newer decks they print going forward, especially the more potent decks. I don't mean weak locks like you can't Summon X while Y is on the field (Links invalidate that with their mechanics, as seen with Promethean Princess and Sharvara) or you can only Summon X for the rest of this turn (you can just make a bunch of plays beforehand).
    But given that they didn't put any meaningful restrictions on the Fiendsmith cards (here's hoping Snake-Eye still isn't at full power when that shows up), I have my doubts they'll do this anytime soon.

  • @Kenny-md2zf
    @Kenny-md2zf Před 2 měsíci +2

    In OCG Maxx C is what keep decks like snake eye in check but in TCG combo decks cannot be allowed to exist.

  • @idkdontask7142
    @idkdontask7142 Před 2 měsíci

    People are ignoring the fact that hand traps are the problem because of how many of them there are. There is 3 versions of veiler that just say "negate opponent's monster". Hand traps themsleves aren't inherently a problem but when you can run over 12 of them it just becomes ridiculous. They also arent just there to "help the going 2nd player", they are additional disruptions when you go 1st.
    Every argument i see to not address the issue of hand traps is the same as i see from people defending maxx "c" but Joshua Schmidt defended hand traps which means its TOTALLY different from maxx "c" defenders.

  • @alexanderbatterbee8369
    @alexanderbatterbee8369 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Free savage

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior Před 2 měsíci +1

    It's almost like I was right and overpowered advantage engines are more of the issue and hitting generics disproportionately hurts rogue decks or something.
    Welp, who is ready for people to fool themselves and say The Zombie Vampire is more of a problem than the Horus cards?

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 Před 2 měsíci

      I mean, two things can be true at once.....
      But ANYONE thinking banning those cards fixed SE was lying to you and themselves

  • @maliktorihane9849
    @maliktorihane9849 Před 2 měsíci

    Y'know, in 2018 I left Yugioh when I realized that I wasn't having fun and that the formats always devolved into degeneracy. Here we are in the year of our Lord 2024 and literally nothing has changed.

  • @ChampionMarx
    @ChampionMarx Před 2 měsíci +1

    All the ban list did was make Snake eyes players better by forcing them to stop funneling into Baronne Savage

  • @darkglass3011
    @darkglass3011 Před 2 měsíci

    Tearlaments, Kashtira, and now Snake Eyes. 3 broken archetypes released in a row. If you have game breaking cards like these back-to-back, it will suck the fun out of playing and people will quit the game.

  • @shadowmarez7457
    @shadowmarez7457 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is how card games die.

  • @ayzn.333
    @ayzn.333 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I like Fire monsters but I’ve never liked the Snake Eyes. It’s crazy how I know the combo chains despite never playing with the deck..
    I think all of the lvl 1 pyro monsters in the deck need to be limited to 2. Bonfire should also be limited to 2.

  • @fateric007
    @fateric007 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Hopefully this deck gets crucified on the next list.

    • @jimimcmahon4522
      @jimimcmahon4522 Před 2 měsíci

      It won't. Cry more though

    • @glitchmakerygo
      @glitchmakerygo Před 2 měsíci +1

      Most of us wish.
      But it won't, SnAsh was confirmed for an OTS ultimate rare.

  • @DragonBallsolosyourverse
    @DragonBallsolosyourverse Před 2 měsíci

    Every few months there's always some tier zero strat
    Ether
    Adamancipator
    Tearlament
    Or whatever
    Yugioh set design also encourages tier zero strats cause each deck is better then the last hence the incentive to buy new cards

  • @mrharvy100
    @mrharvy100 Před 2 měsíci

    Anyone with half a brain saw this coming a mile away. The problem is way too many people got hyped about “WOOHOO Barrone finally banned!” that they failed to realize
    A) SE got ZERO hits on the archetype themselves. It’s still full power unlike OCG or MD
    B) You traded two omni negate monsters for two flood monsters
    C) Linkuriboh banned would do fuck all
    2/10 score for this banlist. Cool they banned generic omni-negate, but that does fuck all for the meta when SE can easily just replace Barrone with Dis Pater lol.

  • @tbyhmes1184
    @tbyhmes1184 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Snake eyes: You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me.

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 Před 2 měsíci

    UMR ash though + reprints in the mega tins coming up!
    you better be prepared for a long ride :D
    the most hilarious side effect of this however is tearlaments fans come out of the woodwork saying "SEE? this tier 0 format sucks and ishizu tear was a much more skillful format! all hail kitkallos!". like stfu "who makes dweller first" wasn't fun

  • @darealwhosane
    @darealwhosane Před 2 měsíci +6

    Yet another reason rolling dice in warhammer is just a better game and way cheaper and more fun to collect and build list

    • @ytsuxmuhd4998
      @ytsuxmuhd4998 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Pure cap & cope lmao.
      It's fine to say to each their own, but don't go touting nonsense.

    • @darealwhosane
      @darealwhosane Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@ytsuxmuhd4998 a warhammer army is cheaper then a meta yugioh deck thats a fact plus you get the fun of building and painting your models plus the game is more fair with rolling dice so its facts you just dont know cause you havnt tried other games

    • @ytsuxmuhd4998
      @ytsuxmuhd4998 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@darealwhosane depends what deck you're making, yes.
      Jus like it would depend what army you run.
      I know folks that regularly spend thousands on Warhammer tho,
      And I know folks that regularly spend hundreds on YGO.
      That's where my statistics come from.
      It's also why I've never gotten into Warhammer.

  • @user-em6iu8ej3c
    @user-em6iu8ej3c Před 2 měsíci

    Sad Tenpai doesn't seem to affect TCG. They really love going first there😢

  • @Kenny-md2zf
    @Kenny-md2zf Před 2 měsíci

    Isn’t this what all the pro players want? A format where everyone play roughly the same deck with not much variation?

  • @KawRoach3s
    @KawRoach3s Před 2 měsíci

    they gotta ban promethean princess and im dieing on this hill

  • @DestroAzureDx
    @DestroAzureDx Před 2 měsíci

    I remember getting blasted in online spaces for saying this deck would ruin and overflood the game until it gets hit hard

  • @happygenerously6008
    @happygenerously6008 Před 2 měsíci

    Aaaaand thats why im taking a Break and going to play Pokémon.

  • @ImHim_BelieveIt
    @ImHim_BelieveIt Před 2 měsíci

    komoney seeing snake eyes T0 before synchro build.
    Hmmm recently its making synchros, lets ban them.
    Snake eyes : ok ill just play how i was before we made synchros...

  • @jamessherman6598
    @jamessherman6598 Před 2 měsíci

    I just play what i enjoy.
    Lightsworn
    Zombies
    Darklord
    Skull servant
    Destiny Board
    Dark world
    Machina
    Heratic
    Limiting yourself to 1 or 2 decks because they're the best never made sense to me. The only time i remember playing anything remotely good was chaos dragons in 2012.

  • @level3xfactor
    @level3xfactor Před 2 měsíci +1

    meta is terrible, prizing sucks, Konami really out here making people rethink why they are even playing their game in the first place.

  • @angel-memeroftheisles
    @angel-memeroftheisles Před 2 měsíci

    Hilarious how banning princess just solves about most issues with snake eyes, yet konami went "nah linkuriboh is clearly the problem here"

  • @Bushwacker1089
    @Bushwacker1089 Před 2 měsíci

    I didn’t even turn on the stream not once all weekend since I had a feeling of the outcome and well yeah it was expected. Sometimes we just a major change and think it’s time again

  • @izzadk86
    @izzadk86 Před 2 měsíci

    at this point, I wonder should snake eyes get the dragon rulers treatment until it gets power crept / errata

  • @anothercomposer7118
    @anothercomposer7118 Před 2 měsíci

    Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
    Every night, I can feel my leg and my arm, even my fingers. The comrades I've lost, the game we lost... It won't stop hurting. It's like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you? We gotta make them give back our past.
    To take back everything we lost!

  • @reddragonstudios1
    @reddragonstudios1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This is why i dont watch the streams anymore, its all fuckin Snake-Eyes now, theres no diversity anymore, this was the same problem with Tearlaments, it was T0 no one wanted to play anything else. How does Konami not see a problem with this?
    Also Daruma Karma Cannon is being misplayed hard, because if its being played and nothing is flipped face down, nothing happens, nothing gets sent to the GY, and A for B effect card, A has to happen for B to happen:
    Change as many monsters on the field as possible to face-down Defense Position, THEN, if either player controls a face-up monster(s), they must send all face-up monsters they control to the GY.

  • @glitchmakerygo
    @glitchmakerygo Před 2 měsíci

    My problem with hitting ONLY staples from the extra decks is that it hits other decks just as hard and there are always more options.
    And then what's next? Ban those options until the only options left are functionally vanillas with utility effects?
    Obviously Snake-Eyes will just go down the list of staples and eventually transition from a combo to a control deck. Once SE is done and over with, a new deck with one boss that's a bit too strong is gonna take over completely as Konami has kinda been building the game around the fact that these generic extra deck staples exist in the first place.
    The game is broken and Konami has only been applying band-aid fixes and now once one problem is removed, there can and there will be more that come from it.

  • @MerlinCross13
    @MerlinCross13 Před 2 měsíci

    It's a very consistent deck that puts up a lot of interaction that isn't just 'negate fields' through some of the most regular hand traps short of getting hit by 4 of them or so end enough room to play all those hand traps. And can play/recycle stuff during the other player's turn.
    The perfect deck the community has be asking for and been trying to build. WHY are you complaining now when you have the deck of your dreams? Besides the price that is. This is LITERALLY what the community has been striving for and now they suddenly don't want it? Bunk. Eat you food you've been wanting for the last 15 years.

  • @Leonardo-ms2nk
    @Leonardo-ms2nk Před 2 měsíci +1

    This game is a joke , no one regrets about quitting

  • @KesslerVTuber
    @KesslerVTuber Před 2 měsíci

    If people hate snake+Eyes than cone and join me in one piece where the only drck you have to worry sbout is Red/Purple Trafalgar Law

  • @MetafyCorey
    @MetafyCorey Před 2 měsíci

    You should be on Metafy!

  • @DinoSoGreat5000
    @DinoSoGreat5000 Před 2 měsíci

    There needs to be Emergency banlist but there won't be