Great video. I like how you include your mis-steps in the video and explain or comment on them since that is what most of us would do as well. Hopefully, you'll continue to produce more of these tutorials. Motion tracking is fairly complicated for the rest of us! Thanks, again!
I'm a QA tester for VEGAS, so not only am I sharing my workarounds to any issues I come across, but I'm also passing that info on to the development team to fix.
VEGAS 21 now includes Mocha for motion tracking (the Suite and Post versions, but not the Edit version), the best motion tracking app in the industry, so if you want the best of the best in motion tracking, you have a great reason to upgrade to 21. It completely revolutionizes VEGAS' motion tracking system.
I'm not 100% sure this will work, I don't have time to test it currently, but you could crop the first pic (assuming you mean crop instead of trim) using video event pan/crop, then right click on the video event on the timeline and select copy. Then highlight all the other images, and select "paste event attributes". This will copy all effects, crop (hopefully), color grading, etc. onto the other video events. If you don't want to do all of that, and just the crop, check "selectively paste event attributes", which lets you pick which attributes you want to copy and which you want to leave out.
If by "trim" you mean cutting the length of the image on the timeline, go into preferences, there's an option in there to specify the number of seconds each image you drop on the timeline is set to default to when you drop an image onto the timeline. Set that there, then drop your images onto the timeline.
happy otter scripts has a free tool that will do this at tools4vegas.com called trim frames, you select a bunch of clips, run the extension, and it will trim each clip by the number of frames specified.
Thank you kindly How will I go about keeping the head still where that square is and stabilizing the square (Not the rest only that point you squared up) I do not know what it is called I have 17 and use stabilizing a lot B... Is sharpening better in 20 than 19 Can you please tell please Pieter
That's something you'd do with stabilization, and I'm not 100% sure how to do that as I rarely use it, but if I find out I will let you know. As for sharpening, I think it remains the same as V19, but AI upscaling is much better in 20.
The feature is currently in beta, but it is included in the latest build of VEGAS Pro 20, it is called "Smart Mask". It uses AI to auto-generate masks.
@@PeterSchuett It can pick out things other than people, although it is trained mostly on people. It was also the z depth plugin in Vegas 21, it can be used to mask people in objects in the foreground out from the background.
Hi. I know how resolve this problem with scale after tracking- just add Picture in Picture on file that will be tracked and set "scale in x" to 1 before tracking
You owe us our time back, working for TV and Netflix for twenty years and you can't even get the basics right in a simple tutorial. No award winning shows under the belt I bet. Sloppy all round.@@DustinRudzinski
Sony vegas really need to step it up. After so many years that this program has been out you're telling me that this is what their motion tracking results look like, after all that effort? This is not usable for a professional application at all... Anyways thanks for the video, you did your best considering the limitations at hand!
What are you talking about? That is as solid of a motion track as you could ever ask for, Mocha couldn't even do better than that. Also, it isn't Sony VEGAS, and hasn't been for years... Sony sold VEGAS back in 2016. It's been 7 years... The extra effort is because I did not approach this tutorial from the perspective of someone who knew how to do it already, I learned how to do this as I was teaching you, poking around until I figured it out myself. I could go back and reproduce this effect in seconds now that I know how to do it, but as another user pointed out, showing myself learning it, and the mis-steps I made along the way, should help you to avoid the same mistakes when learning how to do it yourself.
BTW, I've been using VEGAS Pro to do professional 4K HDR multi-camera television productions, and have been making professional productions within it for everything from TV to Netflix for nearly 20 years, it's as professional an app as any if you know how to use it.
If your a tester for Vegas ask them if their program will ever run on any kind of system. I mean playback is 3 frames per second with just 2 mins of clips with basic color grade. Drop only a file with nothing added and it plays dropping 3 to 5 frames per second. With just a clip dropped on the timeline. ALL THIS IN DRAFT MODE. So my system is Shit, ok im open to that....i fire up premiere pro on the same system (just integrated graphics mind you), playback of 4K is butter smooth at full res....drop the res to half and it plays 2 streams of C4K simultaneously (overlaid clips) with color grading and it plays smooth. ZERO dropped frames. Does Vegas need only a $5000 system to do basic edits. That makes it such a lame software.
It runs just fine on my system for most media, 10-bit media is really the only thing that runs slow. They are currently in the process of rewriting their video decoder and rendering engines, it's going to take a little bit of time to complete, but once it is finished, there should be a noticeable improvement.
@@DustinRudzinski Budget Laptop !!!! Where did i say it was a budget laptop ??? Failing eyes or failing brains ???? Its a workstation running only on NVMEs and SSDs etc with 32gb ram. "Professional Editing Software" hahahahaha.....Vegas is far from that status.....you and they can dream on.....!!! However bottom line that you seemed get fired upon was....lets imagine that its a banged up budget laptop.....the shame on YOU and VEGAS is that Premiere Pro excels and runs 4k multiple streams on that same "presumed shit" system....to do that same equivalent basic stuff you VEGAS needs a NASA spec system ? That's a double shame, that doesn't make your software special. Its makes it a limp crippled software. You admitted it has badly written code....which they are planning to improve on SOON. LOL. Then something set your rear on fire later and you now your trying poor come backs.
@@DustinRudzinski Your a shit tester and boot licker to Vegas hence the fire started in your ass after you accepted that their software is shit and is TRYING to be improved. Maybe in 2050 lol....when adobe will run 3 streams of 8k on a said system your shit VEGAS will run 3 streams of 1080p with @12 fps maybe on that same said system. Thats similar to what its doing now. LOL Your system is irrelevant, bec on a shit system ADOBE runs fine with 3 streams of 4k and Vegas crap cant even playback the timeline. Suck it up and live with the shame. And you can shove your 4 yr old crap up your hiney for all i care.
Great video. I like how you include your mis-steps in the video and explain or comment on them since that is what most of us would do as well. Hopefully, you'll continue to produce more of these tutorials. Motion tracking is fairly complicated for the rest of us! Thanks, again!
I'm a QA tester for VEGAS, so not only am I sharing my workarounds to any issues I come across, but I'm also passing that info on to the development team to fix.
I have been looking for this for 2 hours! It's so different from 17, so I needed this! There's not many tutorials out there for 20! THANK YOU!
VEGAS 21 Suite has mocha, which is way better.
absolute legend!
Thank you very much!
VEGAS 21 now includes Mocha for motion tracking (the Suite and Post versions, but not the Edit version), the best motion tracking app in the industry, so if you want the best of the best in motion tracking, you have a great reason to upgrade to 21. It completely revolutionizes VEGAS' motion tracking system.
Awesome video!! Thank you. Random Q: Do you know if there is an option to select a bunch of photos and trim them all at the same time?
I'm not 100% sure this will work, I don't have time to test it currently, but you could crop the first pic (assuming you mean crop instead of trim) using video event pan/crop, then right click on the video event on the timeline and select copy. Then highlight all the other images, and select "paste event attributes". This will copy all effects, crop (hopefully), color grading, etc. onto the other video events. If you don't want to do all of that, and just the crop, check "selectively paste event attributes", which lets you pick which attributes you want to copy and which you want to leave out.
If by "trim" you mean cutting the length of the image on the timeline, go into preferences, there's an option in there to specify the number of seconds each image you drop on the timeline is set to default to when you drop an image onto the timeline. Set that there, then drop your images onto the timeline.
happy otter scripts has a free tool that will do this at tools4vegas.com called trim frames, you select a bunch of clips, run the extension, and it will trim each clip by the number of frames specified.
Thank you kindly
How will I go about keeping the head still where that square is and stabilizing the square (Not the rest only that point you squared up)
I do not know what it is called
I have 17 and use stabilizing a lot
B...
Is sharpening better in 20 than 19
Can you please tell please
Pieter
That's something you'd do with stabilization, and I'm not 100% sure how to do that as I rarely use it, but if I find out I will let you know. As for sharpening, I think it remains the same as V19, but AI upscaling is much better in 20.
@@DustinRudzinski Thank you very much
Pieter
the first move you have 2 keyframe, that's why the hat moving two location
So to get it right we still have to review the movement frame by frame.
Hi boss is it possible to track mask or auto mask in vegas 20? Thanks
The feature is currently in beta, but it is included in the latest build of VEGAS Pro 20, it is called "Smart Mask". It uses AI to auto-generate masks.
@@DustinRudzinski that’s awesome, thank you so much. Hopefully you can do some tutorials soon
@@DustinRudzinski Unfortunately Smart Mask seems to primarily mask people, not other objects, e.g. boxes. Or am I missing something?
@@PeterSchuett It can pick out things other than people, although it is trained mostly on people. It was also the z depth plugin in Vegas 21, it can be used to mask people in objects in the foreground out from the background.
Why would you post something that didn't work right with out a "fix"?
Because this gets you most of the way there, and I don't owe it to you to invest more time, you're lucky I bothered to share this.
Hi. I know how resolve this problem with scale after tracking- just add Picture in Picture on file that will be tracked and set "scale in x" to 1 before tracking
the box is appearing for me
Why don't you either figure it out before posting or at least edit out the parts where you are learning.
Because I don't owe you either. You're lucky I even bother to make a tutorial.
You owe us our time back, working for TV and Netflix for twenty years and you can't even get the basics right in a simple tutorial. No award winning shows under the belt I bet. Sloppy all round.@@DustinRudzinski
Dung
what an informative, thoughtful post. I bet that one took some serious time to come up with.
Sony vegas really need to step it up. After so many years that this program has been out you're telling me that this is what their motion tracking results look like, after all that effort? This is not usable for a professional application at all... Anyways thanks for the video, you did your best considering the limitations at hand!
What are you talking about? That is as solid of a motion track as you could ever ask for, Mocha couldn't even do better than that. Also, it isn't Sony VEGAS, and hasn't been for years... Sony sold VEGAS back in 2016. It's been 7 years... The extra effort is because I did not approach this tutorial from the perspective of someone who knew how to do it already, I learned how to do this as I was teaching you, poking around until I figured it out myself. I could go back and reproduce this effect in seconds now that I know how to do it, but as another user pointed out, showing myself learning it, and the mis-steps I made along the way, should help you to avoid the same mistakes when learning how to do it yourself.
BTW, I've been using VEGAS Pro to do professional 4K HDR multi-camera television productions, and have been making professional productions within it for everything from TV to Netflix for nearly 20 years, it's as professional an app as any if you know how to use it.
If your a tester for Vegas ask them if their program will ever run on any kind of system. I mean playback is 3 frames per second with just 2 mins of clips with basic color grade. Drop only a file with nothing added and it plays dropping 3 to 5 frames per second. With just a clip dropped on the timeline. ALL THIS IN DRAFT MODE. So my system is Shit, ok im open to that....i fire up premiere pro on the same system (just integrated graphics mind you), playback of 4K is butter smooth at full res....drop the res to half and it plays 2 streams of C4K simultaneously (overlaid clips) with color grading and it plays smooth. ZERO dropped frames. Does Vegas need only a $5000 system to do basic edits. That makes it such a lame software.
It runs just fine on my system for most media, 10-bit media is really the only thing that runs slow. They are currently in the process of rewriting their video decoder and rendering engines, it's going to take a little bit of time to complete, but once it is finished, there should be a noticeable improvement.
If you were going to use professional video editing software, you were expected to have a professional video editing machine, not some budget laptop.
@@DustinRudzinski Budget Laptop !!!! Where did i say it was a budget laptop ??? Failing eyes or failing brains ???? Its a workstation running only on NVMEs and SSDs etc with 32gb ram. "Professional Editing Software" hahahahaha.....Vegas is far from that status.....you and they can dream on.....!!! However bottom line that you seemed get fired upon was....lets imagine that its a banged up budget laptop.....the shame on YOU and VEGAS is that Premiere Pro excels and runs 4k multiple streams on that same "presumed shit" system....to do that same equivalent basic stuff you VEGAS needs a NASA spec system ? That's a double shame, that doesn't make your software special. Its makes it a limp crippled software. You admitted it has badly written code....which they are planning to improve on SOON. LOL. Then something set your rear on fire later and you now your trying poor come backs.
It must be a shit system if my 4 year old desktop runs it fine and you can't edit on draft settings...
@@DustinRudzinski Your a shit tester and boot licker to Vegas hence the fire started in your ass after you accepted that their software is shit and is TRYING to be improved. Maybe in 2050 lol....when adobe will run 3 streams of 8k on a said system your shit VEGAS will run 3 streams of 1080p with @12 fps maybe on that same said system. Thats similar to what its doing now. LOL
Your system is irrelevant, bec on a shit system ADOBE runs fine with 3 streams of 4k and Vegas crap cant even playback the timeline. Suck it up and live with the shame. And you can shove your 4 yr old crap up your hiney for all i care.