Genshin theory nerd goes down the Honkai rabbit hole
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I spent honestly way more time nitpicking over this video than I ever have in my life. My voice wasn't at its best as I was just barely getting over a bought of bronchitis, but it is what it is. Anyway--
It turned out to be really hard to boil these thoughts down to something condensed enough to put into a video. I've really come to love the characters and story in Honkai, though I'd think the gameplay style probably isn't for everyone.
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I know we've been quiet for a while, but part of that was entirely because I just dedicated close to a month of my life to absolutely tearing through Honkai Impact's story. I also had to recover from a bout of Bronchitis that you can still kind of hear in my voice in this recording. Oof. Nothing worse than losing your voice for more than a week when your voice is your most important asset!!
Did someone also notice that Scaramouche is much more similar to Mei than Ei? Like literally his character design seems to mimic Mei's designs.
I am still in the first 25 minutes of this video but I wanted to THANK YOU for doing this. I have been very alone in my devouring of the Honkai story since I became a Genshin player. So much so that I have been noticing and seeing things for a very, very long time and not been able to get my friends to share my enthusiasm of all these little connections. In this first 25 minutes you've talked about things that friends brushed off so thank you for showing me my lore and connection seeking self was valid in seeing! Also, I love the audiobooks thank you so much for those 🥰
I kinda like the idea that Teyvat was made to hide humanity from the Honkai. Maybe that’s why the traveler and their sibling weren’t allowed to leave, to help keep Teyvat hidden.
Since Dvalin was shown together with Fallen Rosemary Teyvat might be part of the Captainverse which is just full of insanity but crucially that does include a group that is frequently visiting different worlds and Alice might be part of that group.
An issue with Griseo being the Primordial one is that she doesn't actually have any powers of creation. She is a psychic mantis and her abilities are purely psychological. She only has the power of creation within the Elysian Realm because that is a virtual space affected by the minds of the flame chasers.
Pausing the video real quick to say that THIS is the video I've been looking for regarding the connections between Genshin and Honkai. I've been playing both games for quite some time now, the lore being the most intriguing part to me, but I was never able to fully grasp how they could be connected despite trying to pierce things together for myself. Thank you SO MUCH for this. Enjoying every second so far <3
i was wondering where the hexenzirkel went and wow, seems like the wait has been worth it. Love long videos
It still baffles me that Genshin fans started a war with Honkai fans over the lore and how there's so many crisscrossing elements between the two.
Finally someone bold enough to say that "There's connection between Honkai & Genshin" I'm tired of people telling me that there is zero connection between the games, since it's crystal clear that the devs make these reference and connection for a reason
So I just had a thought. Otto created future branches where Kallen lives. What does that cause? The sustainer is obviously related 'somehow' to Kiana, since they are visually very similar. What if when Kallen survives, the betrayals of the people and learning the truth causes her to lose it a bit, and become the Sustainer. The problem is time in Genshin doesn't behave like on the tree. Unless Otto messing with creating timelines ON the tree causes instability, and that leads to Genshin. It's a reach, I know. I just feel like the timelines Otto creates haven't really been explored too well yet. But who knows. I think we don't quite have all the info to draw a conclusion yet.
little correction:
Ever since the beginning of the game we are told that the world is Teyvat is one of many, and that the twins have visited several before, so the revelation that Teyvat exists somewhere in the Honkai multiverse is pretty logical.
I also kind of wonder if the Twins outfits are actually battle suits that aid them during their travels. It would explain why they say that the outfit is important to them when Ayaka offers to buy them a kimono (besides sentimental value) and why the developers said that they have no plans on giving them a new outfit. Their survival and even power might actually depend on their clothes, and if their wings at the start of the game are part of their mantis form then maybe it also helps them maintain control over it.
the moment Otto changed the Imaginary Tree, adding new branches, new future, new possibilities and by extension new worlds
in Honkai Impact we have Honkai, the mastermind behind all the destruction in the universe, possessing a person's body and giving them immense power that turns them into monsters.
It just makes sense. Records in Teyvat always confuse me when they speak of invaders, descenders and travellers. When you start thinking that only the Second Who Came are the invaders, the game throws you a ball of "the Primordial One is also an alien and an invader". Two invaders fighting over land that belonged to others is something that happens in real life, sure, but why did the writers make this a basis for Genshin? Where did these invaders come from?
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I'll be real honest this video makes me feel very vindicated knowing that someone else caught alot of the stuff that I thought was odd between the similarities of both games and how it always bothered me that people just refused to see how much they are linked together. Side note some things that I noticed that could just be me is stuff like how for one I think rhinedotter is the mobius expy and that the sumeru samsara arc lined up right around the same time the adam arc with theresa in honkai.
I absolutely just have to say thank you we need more people covering honkai lore there is just so little on CZcams!