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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 4. 09. 2024
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Hey Mike, after running X9 combines in the UK for 3 seasons we found that we run the bottom sieve quite a lot tighter than factory settings to use more of the re thrasher to clean the sample up, we typically run the bar graph two thirds the way up in Durham type wheats and barely.
We have found running the header tipped right back on the faceplate (easy if you have hydraulic for aft tilt) helps with for aft contour following.
It is also possible to make the header âsmileâ when you press button 1 , go to header advance settings and select the smile position rather than flat position, this gives you way more clearance at the ends for getting over fences etcâŠ
Cheers Mike B
If you use the rethrasher like that in Western Canada, you'll plug it up going through the low spots where the grain is a bit tough.
How do y'all ever move a class 9 combine along them narrow roads and between old buildings along tha village streets on tha island-????????
Even trailing a 40 foot head behind tha combine, tha tail end of tha head must bump into a lot of thangs.
We have 2 x9 1100 with 45ft in uk, we have to send someone ahead to stop the traffic on small roads and pull the head behind a tractor
Hi Mike, former Deere engineer here. The design of the FD heads was never intended to use the "hockey stick" style off ground height sensors, and instead relies entirely on the feederhouse attachment frame position for its height sensor data. The software sets the gauge wheel height according to the operator's input via the encoder, screen, etc, then it moves the feederhouse to try and maintain a position in the middle of the attachment frame movement range. This was supposed to replace the older style of off ground sensors, as they don't have the range of motion to cover the height the head is capable of. I personally doubt that they will retrofit any such sensors, due to the increased material expense (I know its not much, but its still an increase), and the software rework/complexity. I would bet that the "solution" endorsed by Deere will come from some sort of camera system, like what they are touting with the See and Spray system, but I don't have a crystal ball. If you have any other questions about the X9 or the FD head, I would be happy to give them a shot.
Local custom cutter put the x9 up against his 9.90 new holland. The new holland demolished it.
@@bradhofer4925 NOT surprising
John Deere is so far behind the 8 ball in actual machinery advancement. Then they brag and pat themselves on the back, when they steal others ideas, they just get another step behind. Hilarious.
@@bradhofer4925 was it an 1000 or 1100 that was put against the new holland?
@Eric Verhasselt I believe it was the 1000 but I was a demo where they the 1100 and the issue with both is there throwing a bunch of grain.
JD should have an air hose for you at the cab entrance so you can 'clean off' and keep that cab mint!
And a vac for inside
happy to hear you are getting a little better yield in this field. Im still crossing my fingers hoping it keeps getting better as you go. Wishing you the best from Northern Ontario.
Remember as a young boy we had 16 ft header it was huge in them days and they were to light duty had issues with breaking . At that time no quick tach heads we loaded combine with header on over the cab if the straight truck and hauled them from Texas to Canada custom cutting
Mike, thanks for another excellent video.
A split head, - 'hinged' is the way to go for a wide span head for an equal length of stubble cut all the way across the head.
For a wide Honeybee head, they need to split the head in the center like the JD.
When manufacturers come out with 70 and 80 foot heads they may have to go to triple hinged heads-!
When you are cutting can the drive to the cross augers in that head be disengaged and only running the belts to carry the crop to the center feederhouse belt-?
Hey Mike, sounds like you need some hydraulic accumulators on the cylinders of the header wheels. That way you don't need to decrease the tire pressures and don't increase the resistance when driving. Enjoying the videos from the Netherlands!
The farming expierience is so different then in the netherland, i love these videos as a fellow dutchman
Sounds like JD didnât learn from their past mistakes by not putting accumulators on the front. They had a similar issue back when they first released the 640D platform, then in a later update put in another one to make the front actually work in the same conditions that you have there Mike. The ones of their 1870 seeding bar for the hydraulic tyres would be a great fit, as they are smaller size, and probably in stock as a JD item. Definitely be worth a try. đ
I have to chuckle every time you focus in on the soft close door! Hereâs a super technically advanced machine but check out the door lol. Take care, safe harvest Mike.
Hey mike my name is Dylan I live in South Carolina Iâd love to come see your farm Iâve been watching your videos for a few years now I look forward to ones everyday, I hope harvest goes good for you! My momma said your son is precious. I hope the x9 treats you well!
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Mike I hope this finds you. I went on Amazon and bought little boot trays for my tractor and combine just the size of a pair of boots and has about a 2â lip around the edge to keep the dirt or mud in work great happy harvest.
Have to say that airbag motion looks familiar đź
Hi Mike! ive been playing farming simulator alot and i am loving the real farming! keep up the good work!
I bet the engineers are at East Moline are watching this video thru' gritted teeth & plenty of eye-rolling.....
Having a child get really sick or losing one is the worst thing that you could have happened. Glad the little fella is doing better. Praying for a full recovery.
Glad your son is ok.
How do yâall pay the notes on them combines cutting low yields?Here in the US you better cut 45 bushels per acre with $13 soybeans to pay the note on a machine like that. Yâall insurance must pay good!! Good luck!!đ
Seems the wheat going into the hopper a bit on the light side ,2 inch of rain would have made big diff. After all the expense and hard work,like the videos.
Mike doing his bit to stave off a food crisis, Thanks Mike!!
Oh, it's coming next year.
Oh God... I wish I could operate such equipment some day. I'm from Poland Mike, can I come? đ
The older Draper headers had swivel wheels out there.
The power of one thunderstorm on a crop strip can be amazing on the yield in the middle of a drought
Ngl,i'm kinda jelly to your work office. I'd like to try out that high end top noch AG technology.
I'm glad that you're posting these videos for us to give us a glimpse of this lifestyle.
Dang 7 am starts were lucky to be going by 11 here in east central Illinois
The header will smile at you 09:33 :D
Looks clean 14:15
Hi Mike I'm from Ireland đźđȘ.. can i come and see your farm some day đ€Łđ€Ł. Love the videos keep them coming
Yea fantastic videoâŠ.. soooo much information itâs đ€Ż AND honest!! I hope Mike is as tidy at home as he is with equipment đ€đ đ€đ» from đźđȘ your yield will improve
Also take not Mike spent most of his time in this vidâŠcombining. Not fixing, not broken down, not putting out fires. They all have faults but it was nice to see him working the field and not the equipment.
The new 40ft heads we have use the hockey sticks. But they are just flex bars not hinged.
I am impressed by the quality of collection of this machine it obviously changes everything better stabilization of the cut in time savings which is not negligible have now arrived at perfection with a large blade width have the view to work for me its obvious on large plots have saved time and I noticed the collection from the cob and impeccable good educational video on this machine congratulations mike for your quality work hello from France james
I always thought youâd be faster than 20 as my mobility scooter does 8mph .
My new mobility scooter goes 15 mph .
Full lights , horn ( truck ) mirrors, warning lights. I even have a yellow strobe on a pole âŠ
Holy crap you are travelling fast.
if you would of picked up some case or new holland combines you would of had a few extra bins of grain by the time harvest is done
....And a few extra thousand in repair bills đ
Hows chapel doin Mike?
He's out of the hospital now, quite bruised from all the needles they gave him and the IV in the side of the head - which make him more agitated. But a few more days and he should be back to his smiley self again. Happy he's alive, that's all that matters. đâ€ïž
What happened to him?
@@knirvisser377 he had a allergic reaction. Heavy one
@@robertfranssen Oh ok, thanks for answering, I hope he will be all right
@@knirvisser377 he is ok. đ
Sounds like they need to go and put those bars back on like the older models had, and tie them into the wheels to pick up/down depending on grade
C'mon Mike you talk about vibration then you plow with the header tire thingy, C'mon man...Great Vidđđđđđđđđââââââ
Possibly the "Vibration Effect" is there to keep you awake đ€Łđ
Morning
thanks mike
Hopefully these headers ensure you many goals !
Glad for the better yields
That's well over a 1.2 million dollar setup harvesting 5 - 12 bpa wheat!
don't forget they have many more, but this one isn't 1.2 and the others would be even less.
No it isnât
Looked at a used 21 model asking $725,000 US for the base machine no head.
@@lynwessel2471 I'm talking in Canadian dollars.
@@chrisb_71 I didn't look up the conversion rate so indicated US dollors.
Impressive machine setup! Kudoz
That X9 is an impressive machine, i have seen a dozen or so in the last week being transported west through North Dakota. I know Mike has probably touched on it in the past but i wonder if they have ever played around with using a stripper head?
What a amazing video. Thanks Mike.
That X9 looks like a good machine so far, Very cool thanks for sharing.
Seems strange not seeing Mike up the bowels of the combine pulling out straw!
La moissonneuse batteuse x9 est bien équipés pour la moisson de blé et la vidéo est bien intéressante
@@fredericdelage1542 Thatâs right đ
If it's too rough for those little wheels on the hatter go the same direction as you seed it that's what most people would do
That's alot more flex then my flex auger head hahahah
Great video Mike
Sweet combine & Flex Draper. Nothing runs like a Deere. If it ain't green... It ain't mean!!!
Simple issue use header in lock up mode with off ground sensors
Hey Mike ! Cover crop on the south farm to keep a bit more water in the ground ?
Need moisture to make it germinate.
How are you supposed to spray also? A cover crop won't grow in the drought
0:49 WOAH!!! THUMBNAIL THAT SHOT AND CALL IT *FLEX BABY* LOL or something like that ;) like... like a gyminist.... lol
Jd needs something like md with the contour buddies
Mike you could work as salesman becouse you know a lot about combines!
Mike would be TOO HONEST giving his views on Pros & Cons of machinery which would possibly affect sales
Was this the same field a couple years ago where you guys just pulled in late evening and you were doing end rows when your fendt lost a idler pulley? The end row looked similar to me.
Hey Mike, I have a question. Yeah you knew I would...you talk about how you guys really liked the bin sample and losses of the Fendt combines...would you go back to the Ideals if they could prove to you they solved all the problems you didn't like, chopper, build quality, etc???
Dam it Mike, its a combine not a race car đ đđ
Hi mike
Your definitely cutting poor yields, đŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó żI was talking to my neighbor yesterday heâs cutting wheat at near 4 tons to the acre , donât know what that is in bushels maybe you can tell me, excellent video again
I think a bushel is around 60 pounds
I hope you are able to give the John Deere engineers your ideas about how to improve their equipment. Very interesting.
You could use a sturdy shoebox in your combine, something that could be emptied.
Do they have a federal crop insurance system in Canada to insure for yield protection in drought years
Yes there's government assistance in crop insurance
I would think Ron Schrader from Hartung family farms could give you some insight on the X9 and possibly the header. Heâs a John Deere engineer. Just FYI
Morning mike. Howâs chapel?
The "Silence" we experienced towards the end of the video is possibly the longest you have gone with no words for a while for which your vocal cords are wondering what they do in this "Unusual Quite Time"
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I noticed when you raised header on headland the pea augers slowed down?
đ„right on, happy to hear yields are looking up out there.. really canât get enough of that x9 itâs just a beautiful machine man. Nice to see green out at your farm. Also say hi to lil chapel for me đ„đđ„đšâïžđđ
Need some ultasonic sensor hight control.
Awesome looking header Mike
Would it be better if a gas accumulator was added to each hydraulic ram on the depth wheels?
Mike how does Deere treat you I know agco/fendt treated you like royalty I hope deere treats you the same way.
Iâm seeing heads on the ground behind the combine header in this video. This is not a disc bind that is used for hay, sickle knives have a limit as to how fast you can cut. It is probably well below 7 mph. Just saying.
Actually it will cut up to 10mph.. The heads you are seeing is the result of grasshopper damage. They chop the heads off abs have done extensive damage
@@mikemitchell2554 no grasshoppers eat what they bite off as they donât have a grain tank to haul the crop home. Look at the 2:32 mark of the video, lâm pretty sure that is header loss. Iâm watching you cut and not everything is getting over the knife and on to the the Draper (apron). Iâm an old combine pilot so I know what Iâm looking at. At the start of video in the uncut area there are no heads on the ground. You should do your own math and calculate how many times the knife cycles while the combine travels letâs say one meter and donât believe what John Deere tells you.
Header loss is forsure a real thing, the poorer the crop, the higher the header loss. And forsure we have header loss due to the fact we are cutting a crop so poor and short, it's literally cutting on the cutter bar.
But allow me to stop the combine right now and count the headed the hoppers have cut off...... Ok, I found a random spot and there is 17 heads on the ground (in a square foot) before I have even reached the point with the combine. That's fairly substantial.
@@mikemitchell2554 I agree with that. Would the carry air blower system help? Then again you can only throw so much money at an already low yielding crop. Just let insurance pay you for the loses and say we always live for next year.
As a Case fan myself these JD and X9âs are so much better than the Fendts.
@Jason So my neighbors have an Claas 8900 and Iâve been around it a lot itâs big and has lots of capacity but I wouldnât want another one. JD and Case have figured out how to keep a machine running all day. Claas and Fendt have all these nice features like massive grain tanks and fast unload speed but important stuff like cleaning sieves are way to light bearing need to beefed up. Just canât keep it running consistently.
Brand new combine, for 2-3 years ve will see are they better
@@crandonborth I drive semi part-time for a crew that runs 8 Class 8800s, and have for several years; I rarely see any of them down for maintenance/break-downs. They seem very happy with them.
@@Sixinthefield Weâve found out that Small grain goes thru much better. Corn seems to be too abrasive on the auger flighting and after 400 hours it paper thin. Also the if we push 300 bushel corn thru it the loss are borderline unexeceptable.
@@crandonborth Maybe corn is the difference; here, we have very little corn........mainly barley, canola, lentils, wheat, etc are seeded....little bit of corn but mainly for feed.
I thought in lower yield crops these big combines pushed 60 foot headers.
Did you have or do you ever have grasshopper problems here or up north? And do you have the sawfly problems? Being not familiar with Duram is there a shelling of seed when the reel hits the head? Thank you and enjoy your educating videos!
southern Saskatchewan is full of grasshoppers
Mike of all the brands of combines youâve owned and used, which one do you like best thus far and why?
This is like owning Secretariat but only using him to give rides to kids at a petting zoo.
Can you shut off your pea auger like in the macdon header ?
Hey mike. Any particular reason you donât run any Mac don? Here in southern Ontario they are very popular on every colour.
They like the Honeybees pretty well and they're built nearby. Can drive right to the plant for parts if they have to.
Just checking what kind of movement does that airbag works on the honeybees
Bel video. Bravo. Bei mezzi.
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Good video Mike!
So even in flex mode running on the ground for lentils the guage wheels is the only height sensing? I hope not.
No the guage wheels control the hinge and there is sensors also in the flex arms like a regular non hinged Deere head to help while cutting on the ground
@@barhorst1577 Good, you never know with JD engineering. Hydra flex heads were a major improvement.
How can you possibly afford this huge equipment with 15 bushel yield?
Hi Mike. Have you got the same header for the X9 on the north farm?
Any insight to the 1000 over the 1100 Choice?
What is to you best harvest bushels to arce?
Enjoy the video
hey mike, how was the weather this year in climate change denier land?
đ You crack me up! I always look forward to seeing what you are going to troll on next! Makes my day, keep it up đđ
@@mikemitchell2554 how was the weather tho buddy?
Wow you are driving fast and the combine say give me more food. In germany we can only drive 2,5mph with a normal combine and the combine donât like it.
thats because here in germany we have way more yield... when they are at 15 bsh/ac and thats their best its around 1t/ha and our baddest yields this year is around 5-6 t/ha 74 - 89bhs/ac and that is very bad we have on good seasons around 9-11t/ha ... thats why our combines are way slower in the drive...
it because the yields are so low.
Regarding the header wheels not keeping it out of the ground, isn't that the drivers job?
Headers have had automatic height control for 50 years . The hydraflex system 745FD headers like they have on one combine are about the best available ,why did JD change it is the question.
Mike I have a question, what is a whole new bag of cats?
Guy who came up with those wheels and there is nothing more that control the height probably never been in the field. Just by looking at this you can see that there will be problems with that.
One wonders why the manufacturers donât make a three reel flex Draper that allows more hinge positions and gets the center drive out of your view as operator
There is actually one from geringhoff. But not that common cause it costs
Macdon has three reels
Any rear end plugs this year with the x9? Did you do your lentils with it yet
I don't think there are any lentils to harvest this fall due to the drought
Whatâs your opinion on the grain prices Mike
I think I saw 29 bushelâs doesnât seem like 3 average to me
He said 17 average on this field.
How do you think those pipe reel bearings will last at that speed? I like the honeybee reel better for speed.
Mike, what's the symbol on the flag and your hat usually? Looks like an F with a backward F up against it?