How to FPV (Part 7) LiPo Battery CHARGING | Is Parallel Charging DANGEROUS ???!
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In the Video I dive into the bowels of charging LiPo Batteries, we talk about common issues that result in FIRES and PARALLEL charging! how it can be done SAFELY.
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Joshua Bardwell started reciting equations so I came here and got an explanation I could understand. Thanks Steele.
Lmao..same here
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The most overlooked aspect of any powered hobby is battery management.
I'm so glad you're talking the time to explain every little detail. This really helps people get into the hobby. Thank you keep up the good work.
Your videos couldn't be more descriptive and clear. Covering topics such as batteries will help me and everyone stay safe and keepin healthy batteries. Keep these vids comin!!
This is great, Steele. I think that the one thing that people often forget is that parallel charging can also damage your batteries if you parallel charge packs with very different internal resistance, or you parallel charge a pack with an iffy cell - it can damage your other packs. If you have a pack where one cell is consistently lower than the others, never put it on a parallel board with other packs. If you have a pack with high internal resistance, don't put it on a parallel board with other packs.
This is very true. That is what I stated to make sure your batteries are in good conditions :). Because yes. Charging crap batteries with new ones will for sure hurt the new
Packs. Thanks for the comment m8.
@@MrSteeleFPV Word. do we still say that? How about: Werd. Or maybe we don't say that anymore either... :/ Anyways, thanks Steele for these howto videos. This is a valuable resource for everyone trying to get started in this hobby. We all take it for granted that we know all this stuff, but all of us who have been doing it for a long time had to learn the hard way - and it takes a LONG time. You're helping people get up & running much more quickly that we did years ago. The more people in the hobby, the better it is for all of us. You're doing God's work... or werk.
he covered that in the video. anyone who didn't bother to watch isn't going to bother to read your comment and follow it.
How do you check what condition the batteries are in? How do you know if one cell isn't working? Etc
For safety, use a "Bat-Safe" for charging your LiPo's !
Love the expertise and experience you bring to the hobby Steele. Instead of looking at a bunch of forums or whatever, I can watch a 15min video and not only learn how to do things safely, but understand the basic concepts which is great for promoting active thinking and regard for safety. Keep it up mate!
I think you’re doing it right, Steele. You’ve been working hard and making a lot of content in order to grow your brand... and I respect that! Keep it up, man. I think it’s gonna pay off for you in big ways. I’ve also noticed work you’ve done in other areas that I won’t mention, but let’s say these aspects are not going unnoticed by those who have an eye for such things. Props, man! Keep it up and go strong!!
Agreed.
Realy simple explanation about charging 🙂
Great tutorial series. Tnx 👍
Hy Steele, i just watched all of your How to FPV Videos and i learned a lot! Thanks for that. I really hope you'll continue this series, because i'll need help putting together a quad in the future ;D
i really appreciate that your videos arent chopped up in editing. thanks for growing the hobby!
Another awesome information video, thanks Steele 👍🏼
This is what i have been looking for. thanks for the series.
I would love to see the next parts of this series man, can’t wait. Cheers!
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Thank you so much for this follow up video. I am currently charging my first Lipo.
Im learning alot but mostly i need a second job to really get into this
Wow your videos are awesome. Thanks for taking the time to show us all these how to videos
Just getting started . Amazing videos and instruction!!! FPV Bible is crucial!! Thanks for the hard work.
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Thanks for being one of the major influences that got me into the sick sport of FPV. Great vid on parallel charging.👍🏼
How much did it cost all together?
You’re videos are amazingly helpful broo 👌🏽💯
Great video! Thank you!! How long would be considered "safe" to wait before charging a batterie when discharged after flying? Let them cool down etc..
Can't wait for part 8! :)
Good video ! I have parallel charged for several years . I only had one charging fire and it was because I got lazy that day and didn’t check all the packs prior to charging . Also might be good to mention that fireproofing your charging area is pretty easy to do . I charge on some old ceramic tiles and have a smoke detector and fire extinguisher in my charging area and it came in very handy !
Thanks so much for this info, priceless. Now I need me a parallel board. Thumbs in the air ! 👍👍👍
Love the series. Never flown FPV. Never really flown RC either. I had an rc glider as a kid and recently found a dji tello for $5. This series makes me want to fly FPV, I dreamed of it growing up but the technology wasn’t around for consumers. Probably the best advice from the series is battery management. I have a boat that runs 4S and I never bothered to use the charger that came with it. I bought a Tenergy TB6B at the same time as the boat, batteries and one of those voltage checkers. The charger is supposed to be balanced but I can’t seem to get the cells to the same voltage. Maybe crappy batteries or a bad charger. Everyone safe flying, or piloting whatever RC you operate!
Do you plan to continue this series? I find them very useful and to the point. Thanks!
I really hope I get a certificate of completion after watching this whole series... 📜🖋🐥 .
I always learn something
Spiro_fpv maybe if we’re lucky we’ll get a drone, goggles and radio instead 😏
Very cool Steele. I use two WP power supplies in series for the 24v output mainly because that's how I started as I was flying planes before I flew quads. That said, starting with a higher voltage than that of the batteries, such as 24v to feed a charger that will charge 6s, 5s, 4s, 3s, etc is more efficient that upping the voltage from 12v to feed higher voltage batteries. That's why I've kept the setup. It is now about 6 years old and still ticking nicely.
Aww, balls! I was hoping I could binge watch the entire series, but you're still making 'em. ;)
I’m loving this series. Thanks for sharing. Btw what’s the end song?
More good stuff!
Soaking it up.
Thank you Sir!
awesome video! thanks for all the info
Very Well Explained! You The Man & Thanks
I bought an ISDT charger and when it arrived it didn't have an plug adapter to power it. Took me a bit to figure out why they sell it like that but all of the reviewers and commentators talk like its common knowledge. What I ended up doing it re-purposing an HP charge brick and putting an XT60 on it. I'm sure that server power supply is better at producing juice and I'll probably rig something like that. This hobby is not really easy to get into and I think If I didn't work in IT and just have general problem solving skills all of this would be impossible. Thank you for the explanations and advice as I am still a noob and this is very helpful to me.
Thanks for the videos .. charging and battery care for fpv is by far some of the most confusing shit im trying to comprehend for this hobby . I dont have all my equipment yet so havent flown in real life yet but i ordered a hobbymate duo 6 pro today and im slowly getting to understand how I have to charge my batteries. Some things are still confusing me a little but im hoping once I have all the gear I need in hand a lot of whats confusing me will be clearer .
Thank you for the series, it is very useful for a novice quad owner. Can you please elaborate more on the use of server power supply, how is it connected to the charger or does it involve any tinkering inside the power supply inself? I might be able to get one from the outdated servers at work :)
Thanks man, been to scared to plug in the parralel board I got day dot after some of the stories... Clarified! Much appreciated now where the f did i put it
Are you ever coming to P.A? I just started drone flying, you are the best freestyle pilot I've seen should do a Meetup out this way.
Thank you Mr Steele for the info. had a few mishaps with charging in earlier days. Lipo bags saved my garage. cant say it enough :)
but can how did you connect the server psu? i got a few in my workshop. 1200w EU 230v from the wall socket.
did you solder or used a circuit board adapter?
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Your my hero ! LOL, thanks for the lesson, very helpful.
appreciate the explanations, helped a lot
Teach you all about batteries, Master Steele will
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Great video! I haven't driven a drone yet but I am wondering how we can put a battery that seem so fragile on a expensive drone that flies around in fast speeds? Isn't it very unsafe and high chance for the battery to start a fire and break the drone?
Glad for answers!
a great video series
thank you
bro I got lucky I hit my notifications and he just posted.
I think safest thing to do is charge your packs to storage individually, then when you are ready to fly parallel charging is key to getting them all charged up quickly and safely since all cells are at same voltage.
Yeah you’ve pretty much taught me everything I know about charging.
Looks like I'll need to buy a 'She Shed'...LOL. Just when I thought I was learning so much about FPV...had no idea charging FPV batteries was such an issue. More to learn...great video!
Super-duper. Thanks. If you storage (dis)charge a bunch of 4.2V batteries, do you still use 1C?
'storage' from a higher voltage is essentially running the battery through a resistor at a controlled rate. it will be slow compared to charging as a lot of chargers can't handle the heat dissapation (the fan will always be on while discharging) I don't think the c rating changes how fast they discharge.
Great info,Thanks. Could I ask what power supply and box size that is on your field charger?
I enjoy your videos, thank you
What charger setup/build do you have in the case on the left (your right) in this video? Awesome info.
Top clip dude 😉
I parallel charge in my fireplace for safety.
Brilliant!
Bucket O sand for me
hahahaha... wait, that's actually genius! I'm gonna do the same
Imma try that😂
Seriously - the microwave is the shizzle - lots of LiPo sizzle.....
I'm glad to see someone that's not ultra-paranoid about lipos. They don't "just blow up," it's always a case of violating rules. :)
I damaged the same cell on 6 batterys one time due to 1 bad cell on one batt, now i always check every cell before parallel charging
Thanks for Good video- I made a Lifepo4 battery for my van house power 3 yrs ago - Tons of Bad info out there about Li ion batteries - took a long time to sift threw the bogus noise - think it was lead acid battery companies putting out bad info to scare people into using lead batteries
Thanks, great info
Mr steel 8m start this hobby after watching some of your videos an as usual you nailed it this is so informative an appreciated thanks alot I've watched it 4 times lol just make sure I was right even shhh ed the wife lol 😂 you are truly appreciated
Dude. Thanks man!!
Good video. Question using parallel charger can or work with balance charging?
Thanks alot Steele. I was wondering if the amperage was additive when parrelel charging. I've heard as long as they were within .1 volt per cell of each other, ex. .4 volts total on 4 cell batteries. Think I will do like you said and keep it @ .3 .
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Thanks for your instructive videos Steele ! :)
Always use a battery checker like Steele says. Parallel charging can easily mask a bad cell in one battery. I learned that the hard way with an expensive camera rig.
I have a EE degree and work for USRobotics. We eat lipo for breakfast. Fact#1 everything i heard you say is correct. Fact#2 charging in Parallel is best for your batteries, Especially if you religiously balance. Fact#3 charging is parallel balances your batteries better and faster. Unverified #1, lol I charge in parallel regardless of total battery voltage, I only check that each cell is close to its own battery. your extra careful method is fine. Great straight forward to the point video.
🙌. Finally someone who understands me :)
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im an owner of the largest Tungsten steel mine in america. It would be awesome if you guys would have an event here or at least come fly it... epic scenery and machinery to fly through. you're Mr Steel for gods sake man, i wanna show u a pic@@MrSteeleFPV
I'll be honest.. I got really excited when I spotted the paramotor in the background.
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Really looking forward to part 8. I'm hoping you can stay in the beginner vein. Talk about some of the etiquette that's in the fpv bible. Discuss where to fly (and not). How to interact with others when you arrive at an active site, maybe talk about vTx channels and avoiding overlap. Things to watch out for as you start flying outside? I'm hoping you'll get to the next step up from the Whoop soon, too.
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What are your thoughts on poly fuses on the parallel boards? I’ve heard you can use these to balance out your packs if they are slightly off.
I want to start getting into FPV I all ready have a fpv tiny whoop and it is very fun I have it on my channel
I got an Turnigy 4x6 (4 Port Charger) for around 45€. You can buy a car adapter or do it with a server PSU. That thing is pretty good for that Price.
Very useful video- thank you. I'm new to rc drones, and have a flying wing. The wing I have is usually powered by a 3s lipo, but I have seen many guys power this particular wing with 3s2p lithium ion 18650 battery packs. My question is, can I charge 3s2p 18650 li ion packs in the same way? Is there a different setting I need to put on the balance charger compared to the lipo?
Nice vid. What are the signs that a battery is nearing the end of its life? Will it just not output as well?
Unsolder the right hand beeper which disables both on those checkers. Your batteries will even out if left for about 5 mins but as you say, watch them and don't plug batteries of great voltage difference as the rush current will create heat or pop a fuse on your balance plate. I regularly bulk charge batteries with a .5 V difference with zero issues and regular lifespan.
You've said 0.3V difference per cell (4:50)? I've always thought that this "rule" applies to the entire pack.
I might have been doing this wrong but I'm always ensuring that the entire pack is within ~0.2-.3V plus checking each individual cell.
Ive been parallel charging since i stsrted 8 months ago my charger is the d2 isdt i use 2 paralle boards with it one charges my 1500mah 4s n the other i charge my infinity 1300 4s takes about 50 mins to charge 8 batts at 1c
ohhhhhhh, rubber ducky, ur the 1. u make charge time so much fun!!!! rubber ducky ur the one for me, can't u seeeeeeeee!🎤
Where is the video of you showing us what batteries/chargers/balance board/ power supply we need to buy?
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So Ive seen conflicting info on what to plug in first. The balance lead or the discharge lead? Can you please go into more detail about plugging the balance lead in 1st rather than the discharge lead. Thank you for the great videos!
One thing that I have wondered is on small batteries with a lot of sag, when you fly and the battery sags to below 3 volts but bounces back to above 3.5 when you stop should you worry about the sag and stop flying.
Hey Mr. steele, quick question. IF you have a large designated charging space in your workshop and regularly charge batteries in parallel while you are tinkering in the shop, is it a good idea to construct some kind of "battery bunker" to contain a possible Lipo fire? I had a bunch of "fire bricks" left over from building a backyard forge last year and I was thinking of turning them into some kind of enclosure that would protect my shop from the heat generated by a lipo fire reaction.
Get the lipo checkers without the beepers- Cheaper AND load readout faster!
Hi steele! How about balance charging? What is the difference with "normal" charging?
Speaking of batteries ... What would cause a quad to flip right under punchout power on a 5s, but be okay if giving smooth slower power to full throttle? Does fine on 4s, but 5s and 6s causes it to flip to the right on a punchout. Any ideas? 45A X-Rotor Stack ... XNova 2204-2900KV motors ... 35V-1000uf Cap
Thanks so much! So, If I have a 10.5V 3S & a 10.7V 3S, I can parallel charge them
Very insightful, I actually get it now!
So, no parallel charging is the cell voltages that are more than 0.3V apart.
You can only charge the same cell count in a single channel parallel charger.
Don’t poke your battery with a nail.
You can charge different cell count batteries on different channels.
Batteries use DC, as do most electronics.
ALWAYS CHECK YOUR BATTERIES BEFORE CHARGING OR YOU DIE
As long as you follow the 0.3V rule, you can plug in the balance lead first with no problems
Charging 3 batteries at (1c?) is taking the operating current and multiplying by 3. eg. 1100mA x 3 =3300mA
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Mr Steele, please reassure me that I’m correct. I want to make sure that I don’t have any problems with batteries.
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Hi Mr Steele. Thanks for sharing =) Just a small question: do you use some lifehack to keep all batteries at about the same voltage? When I'm flying and watching at my OSD and see some battery voltage left, but after the flight this voltage slightly differs from what I've seen on the screen. Or maybe you know some method to quickly make batteries the same voltage, to then parallel-charge them? Hope haven't confused you. Thanks in advance
batteries recover over a short time after discharge so that's why the measured voltage is different than the voltage you see in the screen.
i use the Mah consumed in the osd. if i dont wanna spend ages settting storage charge, i only run 70% of the battery down during flight. so in 1300 mah i only fly about 1000
Charge them single to the highest Value.
Like u got 1x3.85 per cell & 1x3.5 per cell i charge both to 3.9 per cell and than together the for the Rest.
I gotta ask since you fly the adrenaline batts, do you always charge at 1c? Those say on them they can do 5c, that’s how I have done it since I picked them up but maybe I am damaging them more then I realize.
i guess i can combine some questions from the comments together:
1.) what's the difference between balance charging and charging?
doesn't it balance the packs as soon as it recognizes the balance lead?
2.) does EVERY single cell from like 3x 6s pack get balanced out while parallel charging? or just every pack as a whole at the same voltage than the other 2?
3.) if you plug one pack just into the balance lead will it balance the cells without charging it 🤔
the last one was my personal i'm still new..... and waiting for my ICharger 4010 duo 😅
Mr Steele I'm looking at buying my first set of Goggles and I wanted to ask what you recommend based on price and specs? Whats a good compromise as I didn't want to do £500 for HDO for a first set, any advice? Thanks
This is one of the scariest thing about FPV, Catching fire... bcos am very paranoid i always charge my battery one by one,,, i always spend 1/4 day just to looking into my charger and making sure it wont acting up
Thank u for all this knowledge
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Very nice video tanks :D
but you just talked about not to combine like 4s and 3s but what happens when i do this with one 4s 1500mah and a 4s 1000mah?
Whats the best way to level out the packs other than just landing at the same voltage every time.
I got 2 double port chargers for about $80 each, so I can safely charge any combination of packs. They do not have to provide much power If only using 1C, no need for those high power chargers. But good to know how parallel charging works. Would you recommend it for 1S packs used for whoops?
can the prophet sport mini work for 3s and 4s in lipo mode or do i absolutely need a fancy (and expensive) setup like yours?
Is there a difference in charging, and balance charging? Is it safe to charge fx: a 2s, to about 8V and then balance charge to full, or doesn't it make a difference? Thanks for this video
What do you recommend for single battery chargers? I'm still pretty new and not ready to try parallel charging.
Thank you