Watch Chronicler Unscripted #25: Swiss v German v Japanese Movements: The Ultimate Guide
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- In today's episode of Watch Chronicler Unscripted (also available on all podcast platforms) I present a complete guide to Swiss, German and Japanese watch movements and their similarities and differences. Put the kettle on, light a cigar or pour yourself a cool drink and listen to the most complete guide on the subject.
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I will always trade finishing for accuracy, while enjoying both. Therefore I highly value Seiko's 9F movements, great finish but even greater accuracy. A pitty that quartz is not as accepted as automatic or manual wind movements in the watch world...
In the end the case and dial of a watch are the parts you'll enjoy most of the time, the movement has for me to be as accurate as possible.
What a wonderful video! You seem to be getting better and better! This is a video that I’ve been asking for from several CZcamsrs and you are the first to present it. Movements matter. Design characteristics and language matters. What makes a Lange a Lange? It’s the choices that they make to outline a design language and keep it consistent throughout their lines. To answer your parting question, I prefer the Lange approach to movement design, practical yet elegant. They seem to have it all. Refinement, accuracy, durability and charm. Watch repair shops say that they seldom see than come their way. “Built like a tank!” That language is normally reserved for our friends at Rolex.
Bravo in showing us how each country tends to lean in terms of caliber and watch design! I’ve watched this video several times now!!
I'm trying to work out if Watch Chronicler is up and coming competition to Tim from Watch Box in terms of knowledge and insight. Great content, keep it up!
+nick4uuk: Thank you for the comment! I'll certainly give Tim a run for his money!
Tim keeps it all in his head. Armand reads it off a script 😉
Tim is a salesman that extends on the watches he is selling. His ultimate goal is to sell what he is showing. Keep that in mind
It is not a competition. They are both extraordinarily well informed. Tim Mosso is working in the confines of a commercial context but his overall horological knowledge and scholarship is second to none. I have witnessed in person Tim’s performance as a moderator of a panel of some of the great independents like Kari Voutilanen and it is clear that he has greater substance than is sometimes displayed in his Watchbox videos. However, while Armand is 12 or so years younger than Tim, Armand is also very estimable. One is well advised to watch and listen to them both.
The CZcams horologists' horologist! As ever, a thorough and scholarly introduction to a fascinating subject. Thank you. Interesting to see how the three nationalities (could you say four if you looked at French/Swiss and German/Swiss schools?) differ in tradition. I own watches from all three, but I think the Japanese school most resonates. A quieter approach, emphasising precision of manufacture and accuracy, with an aesthetic rooted in a profound artistic culture. I find the German approach technically remarkable, but their watch design is blunt or Bauhaus and generally not for me. The Swiss are so diverse, but I most admire their workhorse watches (Omega, Rolex) which are now so refined in design and function. At the high end I most admire (though don't yet own) watches from the French tradition (JLC and Breguet - I think?) who demonstrate such design flair and classical beauty. So, Grand Seiko for the city, Rolex for the outdoors and Breguet for the opera.
James Howard great comments. In regard to the German approach have you checked out Glashutte Original?
@@hambone988ubet Thanks for the tip. Yes, I have checked out this unfairly underrated brand and while I think that they are mostly a bit large for their formality (too many 40mm+), I am very impressed with their quality (movement and faces in particular). Some of their designs are very impressive: I think the PanoReserve is absolutely the design equal of the Lange 1 and a great price too. You are right - they should get more attention.
Knowing a lot of watch brands, I side with German. However, I prefer the English and French style of watchmaking. However, most English and French watch brand had been Swissified like Breguet and Arnold & Son. The French and English watchmakers care little about finishing and they are all about the chronometry of the watches. English designs are simple but refined while French's design is usually over the top but still refined none of the less. Charles Frodsham is actually highly finished but they don't have waves. The other thing about these waves is it is used to hide the excess metal on the movement plate. German watchmaking had always been inspired and paying homage to the English and French.
I liked that Habring2 offers English-like finishing, German design and also swiss and German-inspired movement. This is why I like Habring2.
Very informative video.I love the ETA 2892 in Top or Chronometer grade.It is thin, time tested, reliable and inexpensive to service, What else could a watch enthusiast ask for ? Swiss Maisons have always sourced movements from movement manufacturers. Only in the relatively recent past has there been such an emphasis o' 'in house".Probubly to enhance brand prestige.
Tim has the knowledge, but you should do a joint podcast to see who has the best voice with the guy from watch finder .lol
Scholarly! Very interesting and informative! Thanks Armand!
+ Richard Farese: Thank you very much!
Very informative,Armand. Thank you. Looking forward to your thoughts on Russian and Chinese movements and perhaps some outlier countries which ate not well known☘
As always, very informative. Please do a review of the Minase watches. I had never of them until this video, and after looking at their site (& watches), I'd like to hear more about them.
More please!
A very comprehensive thesis.