London Underground Piccadilly Line Driver’s Eye View with Commentary. Hammersmith-Cockfosters
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- čas přidán 15. 04. 2024
- Hello and welcome to another video.
This is a drivers eye video and is recorded on the front of a 1973 stock Piccadilly Line train with commentary.
From Hammersmith to Cockfosters eastbound.
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I used to travel every day frome Turnpike Lane to Hyde Pk Corner on the C or D class. Looking back it was quite a ride for about £2 a month. How times have changed, Thanks for the video
My inner geek really enjoyed this video. Great knowledge about the line and its stations. When I lived in London I used to get the Piccadilly Line from Ruislip Manor to Hammersmith every day for work. Ah memories.
Thanks for sharing, I used to get the line every day from Hammersmith to Green Park in the sixties. Brought back alot of memories...
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Piccadilly Line 1973 Tube Stock
great commentary - thanks
Wow thanx for this great video, I notice that the stations are very quiet compared to the years I used to travel that route
No worries, glad you enjoyed the video! The stations are quiet because the video was filmed in the morning around 8am
very nice video, and thank you for the explanations!
No worries, glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice and interesting with the commentary too!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Aw, this is a good one . . . I always enjoy watching your videos at the end of a hard day. Thanks for this! :o)
Thank you for your kind works! No problem!
you should do a cab ride with Dale Charman as well.Legend guy he is
Yeah he is a legend, I’ll see what I can do
Great video Luke! Loving the commentary, helping me learn a few new things that I didn’t know! 👌 Thanks for this. 😎👍 You ever planning to do more of these in the future?
Thank you! Of course, more will be coming in the future!
@@AdventuresOnLondonTransport Alright, looking forward to it! 👍
I suppose, being picky, that Southgate is the last station underground!
If you think about it like that then yes you are correct
@@AdventuresOnLondonTransport It’s a good cab ride video, I enjoyed the commentary.
@@paulhollis8879 Thanks a lot, I’ll make more of these videos in the future
Next up gotta collaborate w dale charman the legend driver when he returns from Aussie great cab ride can’t wait for the 24s
I’ll see what I can do
Not only collab but i definitely want to see them drive the new piccadilly line train stock when it runs in 2025 i believe
Does the piccadilly have any loop towards any other lines such as the Northern?
No I don’t think so, but the Piccadilly used to be able to use the WB and EB local which are the district line tracks
But they don’t do this anymore
There is a section of track the piccadilly connects to on the northern line at kings cross. This is used for engineering works to allow the engineering trains to switch lines. Obviously the northern line has TBTC signalling so piccadilly line trains cant use the northern line section there.
Yes it connects to the Victoria line at Finsbury Park, northern line at Kings Cross, Central line via Hanger Lane junction (Ealing Broadway), Metropolitan line at Rayners Lane & obviously District line at Acton Town
what are your thoughts on the 2024 stock arriving soon for testing?
Going to be excellent! Can’t wait to have a cab ride on one!
Definitely!As you may said in old skool drivers tiktok that you'll be doing the apprenticeship at 18.what type of apprenticeship is it again?The fleet or the line controllers?
what type of whistle is it on the Underground.Is it the air pressure or something else?
It’s air pressure I think I’m not 100% sure I’ll have to double check that
Yes the whistles on the underground come from the mainline air
I want a Victoria line driver’s eye one please 🙏🏼
I’ll see what I can do as I will need to contact TfL
I don't understand your signalling system where you can go from Green to Red without any intermediate Yellow. I'm an ex driver in Sydney Australia where we have dual colour light system in both underground and above ground. The top light is the proceed/stop indication and the bottom light is the condition of the next signal, so you can always maintain good control of the train.
We have signal repeaters which are yellow/ orange
This is traditional London Underground 2-aspect signalling. On the main line Green to Red with no Yellow in between would be very rare, but on the Underground speeds do not generally get very high (45 mph is the upper limit on the Piccadilly but in the central section speed restrictions can be a lot lower) and the trains tend to be comparatively light with comparatively good braking performance. Thus a stop/go red/green based system makes a lot of sense however as mentioned if there is insufficient sighting repeaters will be placed at braking distance from the next stop signal, so although the stop signals are red/green (danger/proceed) there are also yellow/green (caution/proceed) repeaters. If the stop signal is red the repeater will be yellow and if the stop signal is green the repeater will be green. Thus wherever you don't have time to brake to a stop on seeing a red a repeater will be provided in the rear and that will take into account curves and the possibility of signals being obscured by trains coming the other way and it will take into account conditions of poor visibility and everything else. But you can imagine if you're doing 35 mph in a tunnel and the track is perfectly straight a red will be clearly visible a long way off (so much so that some signals on the Underground (known as 'pop up signals') are actually approach lit and only illuminate as a train gets close because the red would be visible too early otherwise and in a deep dark tunnel a red can look closer than it is, so you actually don't want it to be visible too early) and so no repeater will be necessary. Repeaters for the station starting signals are also not usually needed as trains usually always stop (and if they don't stop they're required to pass through the station slowly anyway for a variety of reasons). But indeed repeaters can be combined with stop signals so you do get signals with 4 apertures where the top two (green and red) are the stop signal and the bottom two (green and yellow) are the repeater for the next signal. These will show red (danger: stop), green over yellow (next signal at danger) and green over green (next signal also green).
Another thing that would be very difficult to understand just from this video is that some repeaters repeat multiple signals, so for example on the approach to Earls Court at 4:45 we have (and it's a bit complicated) A6571 with R659AB below (R659AB is a repeater for A659A and A659B). We then have R659ABC, then A659A with R659BC below and then A659B and A659C. So you can see that if, when we get to A659A, A659B is green but A659C is still red then we will get green over yellow (A659A at green but R659BC at yellow because although A659B is green A659C is red), we'll then get a green at A659B but then a red at A659C. So we go green over yellow, green, red. But we have had a yellow (and in fact we would have had one at R659ABC as well). And because of how close the signals are, and when each one comes into view, the system works very nicely, you see your yellow (green over yellow), you slow down, you see your next green (you'll still be able to see the yellow at this point), you don't open her up but even if you did your red will come into view round the bend quite nicely. If conditions dictated you might also have a yellow under A659B it all depends on what drivers can actually see. In any case these are examples of multi-home signals which are a topic unto themselves, but they're basically designed so that as a train pulls out of a station the next one can be approaching.
You forget to mention the trip speed limiter at Cockfosters Station..
Oh yes, in my next cab ride video will mention that. I forgot lol
I would have expected the train to have better headlights.
They do but the camera doesn’t pick the headlights up that well
Would he end up being late if he stopped a little smoother, like letting it slow down evenly?