I ORDERED The MOST Capable Jeep Wrangler EVER BUILT And Here's HOW! 2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL
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I ORDERED The MOST Capable Jeep Wrangler EVER BUILT And Here's HOW! Jeep Wrangler Rubicon JL - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Really enjoyed seeing the review of your new Rubicon. I just traded in my ‘18 JL 2.0 for that exact reason you mentioned, that 48v battery and cooling eTorque system. I had no idea what we purchased at the time and unfortunately, the salesman never told me the details of the eTorque system. We now have a 392 Rubicon AEV level 2 and love the power and handling. I will have to watch that 4H Auto transfer case but paid for a 10 yr warranty so no matter what happens, we should be good for a repair. Thanks again.
Great choice Tyler!! Appreciate the insight on the mechanical differences between a standard and X Rubicon! Looking forward to future videos!!!!
Thanks I am excited for the new Jeep and to get on the trails! Thanks for the view!
Congratulations on the new jeep! Looking forward to see what you do with it sir.
You and me both!
Subbed, awesome information! Thank you, sir!
Thanks for the sub and thanks for the view!
2018 JL here 105k miles no issues at all besides the aux battery all JLs have but its been great to also not have e torque just a regular 3.6 and the regular non auto transfer case 🙏🏼 well detailed video makes me appreciate my JL even more.
Good to hear! Yeah we replace a lot of aux batteries at the shop! Thanks for the view!
Great video and explanation of the transfer case differences. I plan on doing heavy off road use, and am now concerned with my part time tcase on my 2024 JLU. Is there anything one can do you’d recommend to mitigate this? On average, how much would it cost to replace worn out tcase clutches out of pocket (parts and labor)? If it ever got to the point of needing replacement, would you recommend getting something better like an Atlas tcase some mention in your comments? Thank you and now subscribed.
@ 16:13 you shared some very important info that I've never heard before. Thanks for sharing. cheers
No problem the clutch type tcase will probably work great for 99.9% of people for the life of the Jeep but I didn't want to be that .1% with issues!
Wow ! Hello from Florida ! 😎
I just bought the same exact wrangler same color 🙈 same rubicon. Hahaha. Wow. Minus the winch 🤓😄
Thanks for the great tech advice on this video of yours. I greatly appreciate the fact you are a qualified Jeep tech. I've long wondered---since the beginning of the Range Rover with permanent 4-wheel drive back in 1970---what the reliability of fulltime 4WD would be like compared with part time 4WD. You just answered that question for me, as I very much appreciate the way you explained your parameters in making the decision to go with the part time 4-wheel drive in your new Wrangler. Even to the extent of paying more for going with the individual upgrades rather than ordering the Rubicon X (or whatever it's 2024 designation) package. I, too, do not plan to buy a hybrid Jeep. Ditto, a hybrid of anything else. I also have long known I don't want a turbocharger on any car I purchase. Your video is probably THE most helpful one I've seen yet on purchasing a 2024 model JL Rubicon. Thank you very much! (P.S. I drove Land Rover products from 1964 to late 1993. Had a number of them over the years and also one 1982 gray market Range Rover. I kept the Range Rover for eleven months and got rid of it. My 2012 JK Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon has been completely reliable except for the replacement of the nav system when the Jeep had about 12,000 miles on it. I've owned "Ruby" since April 2012. Mine, too, was a factory order. Again, you have a top-notch video here on the 2024 Wrangler Rubicon. Thank you very much!) Andy McKane, 31 March 2024, Maunaloa, Hawaii.
I love all of your decision making process for this build and value the info for my upcoming purchase in a couple months. If you did like the painted roof to color match then you could just get an aftermarket one down the road right?
Excellent video ! Best of luck with that sweet rig. I have a 21 rubicon 6 speed . White as well . The factory headliner option really really really makes the interior quiet . FYI .
I have the headliner kit sitting in the garage waiting to be installed! Thanks for the view!
Awesome Video ! What do you think of the 3.0 EcoDiesel engine? I Have a 21 Sahara I got the fuel pump replaced already so im ready to hit the trails
I worried about the transfer case issue when I order my X. But as I'm using it as an overlander with light rock-crawling, I figured the 2H auto would be beneficial when driving highway with ice/snow mixed with dry spots. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
thanks for the detailed review.
Now keep in mind being a Tech in the dealership we ONLY see the Jeep's with issues, for every Jeep in the shop there are probably 100 without the issue. I would bet yours will be totally fine for you, me being a tech always thinks about the worst case for things that might go wrong. The designers wouldn't have built a tcase knowing that it will have issues. The good thing is our new Jeep's carry a 5 year / 60k mile powertrain warranty if any issues were to come up. If the issue were to happen the Jeep will set a check engine light for "tcase clutches worn". You would then take it to the dealership and it would be fix under warranty for free. I really wouldn't worry too much about it. Get the new Jeep and have fun!
I bought the exact Jeep in Anvil back in October. I wanted it for all the reasons you mentioned in the video. I subbed! 🍻
Thanks for the sub! I wish I wasn't boring with my white color, anvil is an awesome color!
@@TylerPotter Hey bro, anything we can do to make our 3.6L last longer? What oil do you recommend?
Nice I got a 24 Willy’s white with extreme recon
Nice! the 2024 Willys is an awesome package! I was torn between the 2, now that the willys has the rubicon locker in the rear and it is such a great package! Congrats on the Jeep!
Just got the exact same 24 Willys in white with the extreme 35. Love it!
I just ordered a Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon X model. The news about the transmission hursts. Would have liked to have known that beforehand. Anyway it should be arriving by the 25th of this month. I am starting a channel entitled Naked Jeep, Haven't done anything with it to talk about due to the fact I don't have the Jeep yet. It's nice to know you are a mechanic, now I have a contact for when the clutches go out. Ha Ha, Looking forward to meeting you out on the trail soon. Thank you for your hard work and great information on the Jeep
Check your window sticker this isn't true or even look at your transfer care shifter because the window stickers I've looked at state it's part time. I'm only aware of the 392's coming standard with the auto transfer cases
@kennethlaruffa9427 Now keep in mind being a Tech in the dealership we ONLY see the Jeep's with issues, for every Jeep in the shop there are probably 100 without the issue. I would bet yours will be totally fine for you, me being a tech always thinks about the worst case for things that might go wrong. The designers wouldn't have built a tcase knowing that it will have issues. The good thing is our new Jeep's carry a 5 year / 60k mile powertrain warranty if any issues were to come up. If the issue were to happen the Jeep will set a check engine light for "tcase clutches worn". You would then take it to the dealership and it would be fix under warranty for free. I really wouldn't worry too much about it. Get the new Jeep and have fun!
Any JL with the Auto position on the tcase shifter is a clutch operated tcase. I wish I could screen shot the dealership service info.
Thank you for the information and the reply back, I was just notified today that the Jeep has arrived at the dealership. I'm looking forward to driving the new ride with my name on the sticker. Thanks for your information and also the warranty information. Also I was wondering if there were a better grade of clutches that can be purchased and springs when the transfer case needs repair. @@TylerPotter
Thanks man , awesome video , it’s really what I needed to know about factory re geared diffs , so just to confirm.. the 4:88 is more that enough to keep the engine power band like stock , which means I can rock crawl and make steep climbs just as effortless as the stock one with stock tires , right ? Thank you so much again man I really loved this video and can’t wait to see the next videos where you’ll take it to the trail
Correct the 4.56 gears that come with the Xtreme35 package would have been more then enough for the 35in tires, but this Jeep will be on 37's when offroad so the 4.88's will be great. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter thank you so much Tyler for the reply , so greatly appreciate it and appreciate the information 👍🏻
Great video! I picked up a 4xe X but wasn't familiar with the transfer case when I ordered it. I probably still would have got the same thing as I do quite like it. I figure worst case the transfer case dies and not under warranty, I will just replace it with an Atlas TC.
And for 99% of people it will probably never cause an issue, I just happen to be a tech that only gets to see the ones that come into the shop with issues! Congrats on your 4xe!
@@TylerPotteroh totally. A bit like how doctors don't generally ride motorcycles, or how the saying goes. :)
Hey Tyler, nice job ordering your JL. I am also all about reducing complexity and increasing reliability. Does the ‘24 JL 3.6 still run the very unreliable auxiliary battery stop/start system? If so, I would be interested in knowing your thoughts about bypassing or eliminating this system. Cheers 🍻
Yes it still has the aux and main battery. I am installing a start stop eliminator that will push the start stop off button for me every time on start up but I plan to leave both batteries in place for the time being. Thanks for the view!
I have the exact same Rubicon as you. Non x with the 35 package. Absolutely love it! But I'm having issues with rough shifting in 3,4, and 5th gears. Have you ever seen a wrangler in for that problem??
Funny you say that I have noticed a "weird" shift into 3rd a few times once the trans is warm. We have seen a few in the last year fail in really low mile JL's at the shop. If it finally has an issue it will set a check engine light. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter ya it's fine when it's cold. Once warmed up it acts up.
I think you mentioned that the jeep had ko2s. When you did an up close shot of the tires they are km3s. I personally like km3s much better. Much better in the mud
Is the 4:1 transfer case system the one you want or and not the full time 4x4, right? On jeep build site, the transfer case system is exactly the same standard for both rubicon and rubicon X, that’s why I’m confused on what you said about buying the more reliable transfer case.
Both tcases are 4:1 and not really listed well on the website, the tcases with the "auto" position are the tcases with the clutches if that makes since.
Question? I have the same Jeep but with the 456 gears from the factory. I am considering 37 tires. What is your opinion as a Technician with that gear ratio on 37 tires. My main concern is keeping 8th gear. Also what is the deal with shift points? Does recalibration speedometer change that or does the computer self adjust?
Thanks.
We are really flat around here in the Kansas area so the answer might change depending on your area but the 4.56 should still be adequate with 37's. Yes it will kick out of 8th to maintain speed sometimes on the highway but even mine with 4.88's and 35's will kick out of 8th from time to time at speed.
hey tyler, im looking at getting a '24 2 door 2.0T, being a tech would you advise me different than the 2.0T
Now keep in mind I only see the Jeep's that come into the shop with issues, I like the 3.6 for ease of repairs and maintenance vs. the 2.0T. We have had a few 2.0T fail and need engine replacements but most were still covered under warranty. Don't get me wrong we do 3.6 repairs also but normally not to the extent of needing replacement if that makes since.
I have a 2024 Rubicon X. I agree with you about the transfer case, but let me explain The
vantages of having the 4 auto system.. The 4 auto has CV joints. Instead of u joints they do not bind up like u joints. They are stronger anb the front wheels turn more giving you a tighter turning radius. the 4 auto also drives better on slick roads and in the snow. The 4 auto doesn't have the FAD so the right axle shaft is a one piece instead of a 2 piece making it stronger. I guess it all comes down to whether you would rather have a stronger transfer case or a stronger front axle.
I've got an X on order. But I always thought that CV joints were weaker than u-joints. But that was the price to be paid for the 4 auto system. I'd love to learn otherwise. Thanks.
also, agree on the transfer case. I went with the X as leather seats were a must for me and I'm planning on mostly overlanding so the t-case issue hopefully would bite me in the ass.
I totally agree about the 4 auto on snow and ice it would work amazingly! Oddly enough for 2024 regardless of tcase option on the Rubicon Jeep put CV axles and no FAD. Like my "normal" non-X Rubi I have CV's and no FAD.
Any plans to add portals (74weld) and 40's? Why / why not?
No plans of portals on this one. It needs to be my "nice" daily driver and already being on 37's for off-road seems like a huge tire vs. anything I have wheeled before. Thanks for the view!
I'm considering buying one. But I've found you cannot use the 4.88 option unless you choose the 6 speed manual. And chasing that cancels out the 35 inch tire package. You can't order the 3.6 with the 35 inch tire package either.
I have found the online build configurator is broken or incorrect about 99.9% of the time. The only way to really know what configuration works and is available it sitting down with your salesman and having them actually use Mopar's dealer build configurator.
What bolt patter are those rim? I have a wj and live in AC. But I’m looking for better rims and if they’re bead locked that wouldn’t hurt.
5x5 just like a WJ!
Awesome thanks!
I ordered a rubicon X a couple days ago. But the transfer case problem you brought up has me hitting myself. What are your recommendations moving forward? Are the service centers able to fix it easily? How do I know if it breaks?
Now keep in mind being a Tech in the dealership we ONLY see the Jeep's with issues, for every Jeep in the shop there are probably 100 without the issue. I would bet yours will be totally fine for you, me being a tech always thinks about the worst case for things that might go wrong. The designers wouldn't have built a tcase knowing that it will have issues. The good thing is our new Jeep's carry a 5 year / 60k mile powertrain warranty if any issues were to come up. If the issue were to happen the Jeep will set a check engine light for "tcase clutches worn". You would then take it to the dealership and it would be fix under warranty for free. I really wouldn't worry too much about it. Get the new Jeep and have fun!
@@TylerPotter cool thanks for the heads up.
Is there a definitive test that proves the transfer case clutches are bad? I have a 2018 Durango RT with a 2-speed transfer case and the modes of “AWD Auto” and “Low Range” that I am having issues with. After watching your video am wondering if the problems I am having are due to worn clutches in my transfer case. Would the dealer be best able to diagnose, or a good aftermarket shop? Any insight you could provide is appreciated!
They will set a code for "tcase clutches worn"
@@TylerPotter thanks! 🙏 Is there a corresponding dash lamp? I have nothing showing on mine.
Yeah my WJ's getting a bit long in the tooth. It's been totally rebuilt but I can't afford anything else now that I spent all the money on the rebuild of the WJ
Correct me if I'm worng but if I order a normal Rubicon and not the X, I get the better transfer case but do not get the painted fenders. There isn't much info on the website when building a jeep. I also noticed the SOT does give you the body colored roof so we are only talking about fenders now. Correct?
You are totally correct! Last year before NOV. painted fenders was a zero cost option on a Rubicon but mid-November that free option was removed. Also yes the SOT does come body color.
@@TylerPotter Finally got my Jeep but went a different route. Got the 392. Still love your content so keep it coming. I'm keeping mine stock for now with the exception of adding a winch. Hey, look into Utah Customs for the stubby bumper. It's a cover for the back of the bumper when you take the wings off.
Question for you: the 5 year powertrain warranty, does that cover the steering box and any steering related issues? Or does steering warranty end with the 3 year?
Steering parts would be covered under 3yr 36k mile basic warranty
@@TylerPotter thanks for the reply. And thank you so much for your videos!
Remember the 4 cylinder Turbo only gets its power numbers if you use premium fuel.
Yup.
If you like expensive gas bills then get the 4 Turbo
Though I was surprised to Jeep only calls for regular 87 octane in the 2.0!
That t-case is/has been my biggest worry for my 392.
I have seen a few of the 392 guys using the tazer to force the tcase into 2wd to try and help the clutch life. But luckily you have your 5 yr 60k mile powertrain warranty if you were to have an issue. Thanks for the view and the one thing my little 3.6 will never have is that 392 exhaust noise! I do love driving them at work!
Those light look like part of the cross traffic safety option, non cross traffic jeeps don’t have the bump.
All of the LED taillight housing have the bump in them, the Jeeps optioned with safety group get the blind spot sensors installed in that bump. Thanks for the view!
My WJ took a dump on me. JL here I come!
I am looking for WJ's about everyday on market place lol
I’ve had my Jeep on order since last September. How long did it take for your Jeep to be delivered?
Ordered our Rubicon X on 08/01 and received it on 12/27 in Florida.
I ordered my Rubicon X on 11/7/23 and it's now scheduled for 3/20. So I'll likely get it mid-April - just in time to miss Jeep Beach 2024.
@@richards144 Hopefully that comes to fruition. Maybe we will see you there.
@@richards144Good luck with that. My Rubicon X was ordered 9/18/23 and finished being built on 2/28 , and I still don’t have a delivery date.
@@TealOxAdvI’m jealous
Your jeep but your shop may not have much with 3.6 . You have a lucky shop . Especially considering the V6 is a sludge .
Don't get me wrong we do a lot of worn cams and rockers on 3.6's at the shop but I would much rather spend an hour replacing some rockers vs. multiple days replacing a failed 2.0T. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter don't disagree but spending years in Moab and the jeep techs there which is most of what they work will tell you alot different . Reason why that engine is being discontinued.
But honestly when you talk about that being most capable you lost me the 392 with Xtreme with the aev package is the most capable at 11000 should be . You work on jeeps have a small shop but if you look a much bigger picture they have issues .
@@geneshadd4483 I'm unfortunately a 15 year Jeep technician at the dealership and have to work on these things everyday
I’m a jeep owner and my 2018 rubicon is going strong…..this new model year with the factory lifts are so attractive but I can’t get over the price of these 67k…..prob won’t buy a jeep again.
Yes the price is ridiculous on current Wranglers! I didn't like looking at the window sticker! Thanks for the view!
Np keep the videos coming
It's amazing how through the generations reliability is always Trump's performance. Well typically Trump's performance. I was the same when I bought my Porsche the Cabrio convertible or a hardtop and there were tons of cambrios out there to choose from. But the hard tops are way more less maintenance. Nice Jeep
Could one not change the transfer case?
Absolutely! But I believe the cost is upwards of $2k for the tcase new plus you would need a new drivetrain control module and then need to worry about programming for the vehicle to see the 4x4 position. But yes anything is doable! Thanks for the view!
@TylerPotter thanks for the reply 🙏 really appreciated.
I only ask as I have the 392, and if the transfer case would give me issues down the line and that would be an alternative option I may look at it or an atlas transfer case if the price is the same ball park.
You get the Dana 44 front or the Dana 30?
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Does the TRX have the clutch style transfer case as well?
Unfortunately they do, I have had a few come in the shop with tcase clutch overheat codes but so far none with clutches worn codes.
I was really disappointed to hear about the Rubicon X transfer case.
I was also surprised to read the info on Jeep's dealership service information on the tcase. Thanks for the view!
These vehicles are over $100,000 AUD and doesn’t even have the steel bumps as standard. Nice vehicle, but not worth $100,000. $100,000 for a 4 cylinder turbo 4x4. 😂
You forgot an option, 2 doors.
They did just announce you can get the Xtreme 35 package now on the 2 door! But this JL taking the place of my WJ I had to have the 4 door space. Thanks for the view!
Go pee first, and then come back with your presentation 🤪
With all those hand motions he reminds me of those traffic cops in NYC 😁
I don't believe this to be true about the auto transfer case I've been looking at the new 2024's X package rubicons and the window stickers state 4:1 rock trac heavy duty part time transfer case which is the same since 2006 or when the first gen rubicons came out but it's definitely something people need to be aware of if they're shopping for one forsure but being standard like on the 392 I don't believe to be true and yes I'd definitely not get one if it had this set up.
If you look up the Jeep dealership service information (I really wish you could add pictures in the comments on youtube) it talks about the operation of both tcases the auto tcase being clutch pack controlled vs. the "normal" tcase having a shift fork and locking into 4x4. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter it literally says part time 4wd but yea wish you could add pictures so I could show you the window sticker🤷♂️
Mine says 4:1 rock track HD full time 4WD system on my build sheet on recon customer preferred package 24Y and on standard equipment it says 4:1 rock track heavy duty part time but also says on build sheet on my 24y package that it can replace some standard equipment. So the X is getting full time from what I’m reading
@@ttyyz3731 yea apparently this is true but from what I've seen part time is standard and full time is rare or special order? I shopped a few of my local dealers and out of ten or so one had the full time. Something to be aware that you don't have to settle for either one
@@stephencarbajal5657 yeah I’m just reading my paper that shows everything on it and every order paper I’m sure on rubicon has a standard package and the one on right side has the package you add 🤷🏻♂️ I’m guessing I have full time. I’m sure it’s good to have it don’t stress it just enjoy 🙌🏼
Those black fenders gotta go
Yeah that was one of the options they removed from a "normal" Rubicon was the option for body color fender flares unfortunately.
@@TylerPotter but they can be painted ?
392 XR is the most capable factory Wrangler
You ordered the most capable Jeep you could afford…not the same thing.
Unfortunately the 392 has the clutch operated transfer case that does not offer a physical lock between the front and rear-drive shaft. It only uses clutches to attempt to apply and hold the drive shafts together, we have seen a few issues with that in the shop on the clutch type transfer case equipped JL's and JT's with worn clutches. That system will also default to open operation if there is a wheel speed sensor fault in the system. There is just a lot of options 4 having issues, if you were to have a wheel speed sensor get damaged on the trail, you then immediately would lose any sort of transfer case lock.
Please don't get me wrong I am not talking down on the 392 as it is a awesome Jeep to drive and makes amazing noises. I just didn't want to have to buy a $100000 Jeep to immediately want to spend a few more thousand dollars, trying to swap transfer cases.
I dont like the '24 Uconnect screen. It screams Millenial engineering.
Other than that, NICE FRICKN JEEP DUDE!
Yes it is pretty huge in on a wrangler dash but does seem to work decently! Thanks for the view!
The MOST capable Wrangler would be the 392
That would be the most powerful. As far as capabilities, they’re equal
Unfortunately the 392 Wrangler also has the clutch type transfer case that can have the clutch wear issues. Thanks for the view!
It’s full time AWD, but unlike the TRX BorgWarner 48-13 transfer case that’s electro mechanical chain system, the 392 uses a clutch pack system.
As the gentleman in the video explained, over time those clutches will wear. Eventually, especially with lots of off-road use or harsh driving, it will lose ability to put power to the front tires through slippage and you’ll have a rear wheel drive 392 with an full time AWD / 4x4 capable stamp. :)
Just like all Jeeps, it gets better the more Jeep parts are removed! lol 🐴🐴🥌
Most capable jeep wrangler right now is 2-door wich 2l turbo.
Nice ride.
I have an X with the 24y package on order, (comes bundled with XR package). been waiting since feb. should be built next week.
Looks like another pathetic mall crawler which will never actually see a real tough trail with mud on the hood and roof as the Rubicon I built sees every week in the Oregon mountains.
Wow, you hate your life so much you have to project your hate onto others huh? Good luck loser.😂
Agree with you . If you feel like you need all that then you need to learn how to drive . Funny how he keeps saying he works on them . 3.6 has it's issues .
@bryandale7125 We are lucky to have 3 close ORV parks to us. Tuttle Creek ORV, Disney Oklahoma and Kansas Rocks. It will be hitting the trail just as hard as my built WJ did. Make sure you subscribe so you can see it on the trails!
@geneshadd4483 I unfortunately have been a dealer tech now for 15+ years but don't get me wrong we do a lot of worn cams and rockers on 3.6's at the shop but I would much rather spend an hour replacing some rockers vs. multiple days replacing a failed 2.0T. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter a guy is talking trash about you, I call him out and you delete my comment? Go fuck yourself.