Flutter vs React Native vs. Swift/Kotlin In 5 Minutes
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In this video, I compare Flutter vs React Native vs Swift/Kotlin for building a mobile application. This video will be a little bit different because compared to other technical CZcamsrs, I am not all that passionate about very nitty gritty technical details of what framework is the most "logical" or has the "best implementation."
In my opinion, these are all implementation details that don't matter because you can always learn any language/framework as you move on. I'm much more focused on building apps as quickly as possible and the problems surrounding building applications, so this video will be more from the perspective of being a "product engineer."
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1. If you learn native you will switch into crossplatform in a second.
2. As a native dev you have opportunity to work in a big companies and your financial/code skill ceiling is much higher.
3. At some stage of crossplatform dev you will need native knowledge anyway.
Yeah apps aren't doing any crazy rendering where performance becomes a top priority so you're super spot on there. I have been building using react native for some time now and I have never really noticed any issues. Great video btw!!
Yep people over emphasize theoretical performance when really it takes a lot to push an app to really struggle with performance haha
@@YourAverageTechBro same I use an android framework Droidscript that uses a bridge like react and I use js, no performance problems
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This video came at a good time! Great video as always dawg
Glad you enjoyed!
Super useful video man! Honestly most times, just choosing a framework is the hardest part haha
yep agreed haha
So far from what I noticed, what's really hard on working with multiplatform is if you're making an IOT app, that needs to exchange command in the form of bytes that is sent to the device. Granted sometimes the manufacturer of the device you are working with offers a multiplatform SDK, but most of the time they don't, so eventually you have to dig deep into native code implementing the command sets yourself in which at that point it's just better to go native all the way.
For IoT let the backend handle that. For the front end it should be like with a 'normal' app
So helpful. Thank you very much!!
thanks a lot for such a great breakdown!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, totally balanced and agree with you. Have programmed natively with Swift and Kotlin for many years which I love but mainly use React Native now as the performance difference for 99% of the apps I’m working on is not enough to warrant writing twice in native and end user would be none the wiser. If I had a use case to do so I would but so far React Native working really well for me and also the fact that it is quick to get general React developers up and running on React Native too and share same React idioms across web and mobile app development especially nice using TypeScript. But appreciate also very much depends on project / team / background skill sets etc.. Also interesting Xamarin is not mentioned anymore (I was certified developer in 2015) which I can understand and now replaced with MAUI I believe which is Xamarin Forms from what I can make out ?
what do you think about using KMM?
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I think Flutter is now became much more popular. Flutter is best option of discussed, because it also provides single code base for different platforms, without loosing performance. If App is more dependant on hardware usage (like Games), then Natives (Swift / Kotlin) are best option. Mostly Flutter can be used.
Except if you want to build web and mobile with same codebase.
Flutter kinda sucks for web whereas using RN for web and mobile using things like Solito and Tamagui is pretty good.
@@wezter96 The problem with react native is the limited ui in the concept of look, flutter can provide unlimited modern look towards our ui elements, you can make any ui element without any hestitation, and in react native most of times is barely possible without frustration or boilerplate an example is circular progressbar in react native you need reanimated + skia that has many lines of code and in flutter its 4 lines of code including curly brackets, so ye i pref productivity than the whole shithole altho youre right in terms of sharing the code between web and mobile especially if you already have a web app and wanna extend your product to mobile react native is the only goal as long as its react based web app otherwise flutter is the only way to go.
Are you sure?
In the case of post hog can you mix flutter and native development easily? E.g. could I make calls to a facade that I create in Kotlin/Swift native that I call out to from flutter?
Would you stay at a company that hired you to do native, but 1 year later forces you to go cross platform?
Beautifully said
One of the main reasons I started on Flutter dev is because of the reliable Type strict language
You missed out Kotlin KMP and Jetpack Compose Multiplatform
For most of the general cases Flutter is the best in my opinion. The cases where the cost-benefit ratio won't apply are very specific, like yours. You wanted to use something that probably Firebase would do the job, but you wanted to use something else.
good points all around!
any update on if posthog and flutter have gotten a better support lately?
Mantap sekali ini folio, kayaknya next project akan make ini aja deh 😍
How about .NET MAUI?
Thanks for the info
No problem 👍
Any ideas as to why Fiverr is predominantly filled with Flutter developers? Is that indicative of a softer barrier to entry?
Easier entry. Framework already includes scaffolding.
React native no longer needs bridge
Hey thanks for nice video,
Can you please give credit for who has this video in CZcams or website?
At 1:07 flutter moving background slider ?
what about app size
Well, it is going to change with compose multiplatform
Always native will be in our hearts!
Cross- platform go by
cross platform is pretty impt imo I'm a big fan
What about Kotlin Multiplatform? It seems to be in a super early stage (at least for exporting to iOS) though.
XD
@@vanessamunoz3390 ?
Average bro, do you think flutter is overhyped. Will you prefer KMP now?
Is there any place for .NET MAUI in app development
I'll be honest I have never heard of .net maui 😬
.net maui ui libraries are still very poor, it's just a mess. not ready yet
I wouldn’t trust it. MS bought Xamarin and they have a habit of dripping support. I’ve used Xamarin Mac for a big project. A few months ago, MS released a brand new editor for Mac and a few months later announced that Xamarin Mac will be discontinued next year!
I think MAUI has no future, tbh
Skia is not dedicated copied from chrome.
Dedicated Impeller rendering engine is released a few months ago and its superior to skia and its the default for a few months now but..
This is the forth video I encontered that doesn't even mention it. 🤨I feel really salty at this.
You forgot to include kivy & kivyMD for python
you forgot to include kotlin multiplatform too :)
Is kotlin cross platform now ?
@@Masda.X yes it can compile to obj C which is usable by swift
@@giuliopimenoff thanks
Im worried if I start developing in Flutter Google will EOL it in a year. Is that a real concern for anyone?
Me too
HI @jasonthedesigner honestly if someone was starting a career I would still say native is the approach to go. Have been in the cross platform space for 10-11 years and have seen lots of cross platforms come and go like Cordova,Ionic, NativeScript, Xamarin, Native is always the most stable option. I have a feeling React Native will outlive Flutter not because it is better but just that it allows people from web background to move whereas Dart is honestly a learning curve in organizations when you could have a React dev. Although it is niche it is also limiting in terms of opportunities. Flutter has been for more than 5-6 years and honestly I have not seen google promoting it as intensively and its adoption as compared to what it should be
@@OpyJoe People have been saying this same thing for like 5 years now and the Flutter and Dart team keep releasing great updates that improves the technology. It ain't going anywhere anytime soon
That's impossible tbh
NO mencionastes a Framework Maui Net..... ;(
There may be another one replacing flutter or react native. But Swift & Kotlin are here and stay
React native now is amazing ❤
Je wala sahi jai😅
Native is best ❤
kmm for kotlin is joke?
I think Kotlin is my all-time favourite, but I also wanna try Flutter in future...
How bro tell me a road map to become mobile app development with Kotlin
Lol meta wrote their whole app in native (kotlin,swift) , they also used jetpack compose for their new threads application
i thought kotlin is also cross platform, am i wrong?
It is becoming I think
New method
Kotlin is multiplatform, kotlin/jvm for android and yeah, compatible with java
What abou xamarin and maui 😅
I'm planning to become a cross platform mobile app developer please give me advise which framework i should learn
Dart and flutter
Have been in the cross platform mobile space for close to 10 years. I honestly would still vouch for native as a major and cross platform like React Native or Flutter as a secondary thing. I feel native helps you master a single platform more deeply and platforms like React Native open your potential to web if you want to move down the full stack path. Although crossplatform is a quick way to build for both it makes you more niche and specific and I have seen a lot of platforms evolving and changing from Cordova to Ionic to React Native , Flutter, NativeScript, Xamarin. I would follow the native path as in the long run it is stable, it pays you well and follow crossplatform as a minor
I honestly thought we can now develop cross platform applications using kotlin. I saw that in a recent update on their website.
maybe! I've never tried it out myself
Yes, but it's really new and there's not much support for it. It has a lot of potential though
React natives secret weapon is expo. The fact that it allows me to build for android and iOS without needing Mac hardware is huge
in perfromance you should also , mention problem of skyia enginee with ios' enginee
haha yeah woops should've mentioned it. I may have accidentally edited it out
Came here for clarity and you confused me more..😂
Not Skia but Impelar
right now I'm struggling with Flutter Local Notifications and I just can't implement them in my app. I look at swift and it looks so easy... sigh.
Wrong, React native also supports SKIA. It can reach same or even better performance than flutter.
How much has Facebook paid you to advertise for react native
Elexir
thought kotlin has cross-platform feature
This one says react native has better performance than flutter: czcams.com/video/tTGWfXPKxf4/video.html
web react developers can learn expo RN in 1 day
Yh
1 question is enough do you have macbook yes watch this video no go learn kotlin
At this point, everything seems better than react.
Over done audio
First to comment 🎉
congrats friend 🫡
Flutter created for developers, RN created for ppl
Two words: function components
fix the flutter library and make a PR
I'm never, EVER going back to React Native!! 🤮
Why?
Same. I regret not learning flutter first
Terrible view IMO. Said Flutter uses Skia when now the default is Impeller for iOS and soon to be for other platforms as well. Within performance, Flutter may consistently reach 60fps but that doesn't mean the end product "feels native." I 100% prefer Flutter to RN but RN wins in terms of performance. Numbers can only get you so far. When you get both in your hand, you'll be able to tell that one feels native and one feels like Flutter. Not to mention performance and community support are two random metrics you chose to use to pick which one is best. If you're actually talking about developer experience, you'd mention that Flutter has many, many more first-party widgets than RN has components. Also Flutter not having OTA updates (Shroebird coming soon though) while RN does. Why not mention how React Native is three years older than Flutter? This video was spoken like someone who has never actually used these technologies.
someone got triggered because he didnt fanboy over flutter and said its the best ever and that everyone should drop RN and native for flutter :b
He basically said, use whatever you want, just analyze your exact needs before starting development
video is full of misinformation.
Yeah, nowadays comparing performance between frameworks is just a matter of milliseconds to compile, open de app first time, so it becomes totally IRRELEVANT. “Oh look at my app is 100% native” OK, nobody cares but you…