After 20 years on the street and the wear and tear on my back, I said "I am done wearing a dedicated gun belt" when I retired..... Then after a couple years of instructing and working on a gun range, I realized that lacing all the gear you need through a trouser type belt every day was BS. I am back to wearing a gun belt when working, but now I can have cool guy colors instead of all black. Oh and it feels great to be able to drop it when not needed. great video man.
Bob Surratt Man after being a duty belt hater, it's worth the weight wearing it, to dump all that shit, the second I don't need it....... retirement has its perks!
Just a tip,I found adding self adhesive Velcro to the back of the plastic blade tech teklocks to interface with Velcro of inner belt for better stability. The row of mag pouches has limited contact and will bother you I think.
Really great stuff Chuck! Anyone can read an FM or postulate but EXPERIENCE is priceless. I personally liked the explanation on attachment hardware. Haven't a found a source for this info before. Keep doing what you're doing!
Excellent information. I’m just a regular dude trying to get better with my firearms for self defense. I like the way you compare why some gear is better than another. I have an esstac belt I’m working on setting up. I want to get my gear setup for when a P&S trainer comes by my area.
I love my Ares belt for duty use, but if you're running the ELS mounts take a look at Safariland's ELS Belt. Yes, the belt is a "gamers belt", but it works great for a training rig where you have different load-outs based on the class. I modified my belt with a Carbon Arms Belt Ratchet Kit. It helps with getting the belt on and snugs it up to the velcro underbelt. I placed the ratchet at 4 o clock behind my holster (right Handed) to give me as much real estate for mounting the ELS 35's. Give it a try, I hope it helps.
On my Tech lock products that I use for competition and range use actually went and bought stick on hook and loop and put it on the back sides of the buckles so I wasn't losing that hook area so my belt didn't slip around
@@YG-ei7wu Negative Sir, I just observed how you did it on the video, then applied it. I love this belt, really takes the load off of how sturdy it is!
Chuck, I have watched this and saw your post on on IG about mission load out which won’t be published for good reason. I would love to see what you would run on a mission just regarding the belt. I know you mentioned just running off a trouser belt. Thanks for the video.
Chuck, check out the blueforce gear ten speed dump pouch. Just like the chalk bag but tucks up into the elastic. Totally out of mind if you don't need it and super light.
dump pouches are more rigid and specifically designed to accept magazines that need to be stowed rapidly. SSE bags are lightweight, usually compressed and kept completely out of the way, but allow expansion to hold items recovered on the battlefield until they can be properly bagged, tagged, and prepped for extraction as evidence/intel. an SSE bag might hold a pistol or something temporarily until it can be transferred to a proper SSE bag. The downside of SSE bags is that they are normally not durable and with nor stiffness they are more likely to bounce, twist, and rattle around while running. They would be less than optimal for quick stowage of mags. I don't quick stow magazines during missions so I have no need for a dump pouch, only an SSE bag which is rarely used either. Most of the time studd on the deck stays on the deck until things are done and then they are picked up and proper stowed. If I need to retain a mag for some reason (movement in an urban area where I will not return) The mag is stowed in a cargo pocket until I can secure it elsewhere.
The tactical tailor fight light dump is pretty small with a good closure and it folds up nice and flat when not in use, and when open isnt a giant hooker gape that catches on everything.
NARP Black Talons are kept in the front thigh pockets. I handled stinkies living and dead for the last 16 years. You better believe that rubber gloves are on the list. lol
Hey Chuck, a little late to the game now since you posted this but have you checked out the First Spear Missing Link attachments for molle looped gear? They would probably help tighten up that slack in your medkit if you're still running it on your belt.
...that or just search for "12 gauge DoD breaching rounds" and go with those; they're 2.75" and come in an obviously-government-focused plain white box covered in black lettering that is primarily composed of what appears to be random numbers and letters. I bought them a long time ago because I thought "sometimes my lock-picks take too long", but I've never used them so granted maybe they are Unobtanium now. (So if you need them for some crazy-ass reason, Chuck, let me know and I'll send like 8 of them your way, LOL)
So the weight-saving of just a duty belt is more comfortable than the padding of a war belt? Or would you recommend a war belt when you need to carry a lot?
I picked up a "Condor 3 Fold Mag Recovery Pouch" dirt cheap - so for all I know it's going explode into fabric confetti the first time I use it - but it feels and looks non-shitty (especially given the price) and folds up (as the name implies..?) into a relatively thin roll that is is then velcro'd together. Yeah, it's Condor, but if you don't like dump pouches to begin with I'll put my noob reputation on the line (can a Tacticool Reputation Score even _go_ negative?) and suggest it's worth the
Kurt Henrie I'm using a Blur Alpha inner belt with this outer belt right now. The inner belt is not a thick or rigid as the Ares gear so it feels less bulky when paired up with the Ares outer belt.
Anybody have the product number or exact name for the ELS belt mount? I keep getting results for the ELS belt system, looking for the same thing Chuck is showing here....
Hey chuck appreciate the video sir, i have a question is this there le duty belt or there ranger belt? Looking at picking one up, i need a good range belt. I love the inner belt design makes it so easy to just leave your gear in the same spot and not have to take your gear off and on.
Hey chuck i got a question sir, where did u get that strap you use for your midride ubl and qls attachment? I have the ubl midride and qls just like you, in need of a strap to make it more secure. Thanks chuck i appreciate your time 🇺🇸
Do u just use the strap that comes with the 6004 27 dfa leg shroud from safariland? Wondering if u can buy a strap seperately instead of buying that 6004 27 dfa leg shroud attachment
@@presscheckconsulting3449 ok thanks chuck, i did find a replacement 3004 leg strap from safariland which i assume is the same one that comes with the 6004 dfa leg shroud. Which do u prefer the shroud with qls or the midride with the leg strap? I was going to pick up the 6004 dfa leg shroud attachment but i already have the midride with qls. Id rather ask your opinion since u know your stuff. In other words i trust your opinions very much
@@presscheckconsulting3449 would love to see you do a class up here in maine. That would be amazing. This place needs skilled people like you to train us up here. There isnt many good instructors up this way that i am aware of
After 20 years on the street and the wear and tear on my back, I said "I am done wearing a dedicated gun belt" when I retired..... Then after a couple years of instructing and working on a gun range, I realized that lacing all the gear you need through a trouser type belt every day was BS. I am back to wearing a gun belt when working, but now I can have cool guy colors instead of all black. Oh and it feels great to be able to drop it when not needed. great video man.
Bob Surratt Man after being a duty belt hater, it's worth the weight wearing it, to dump all that shit, the second I don't need it....... retirement has its perks!
your role has changed, it makes sense that your gear has changed.
“I was inverted”. Nice
Just a tip,I found adding self adhesive Velcro to the back of the plastic blade tech teklocks to interface with Velcro of inner belt for better stability. The row of mag pouches has limited contact and will bother you I think.
tactical.dk same as well, little fix works wonders!
Solid presentation Chuck.
Loved it. "How many?" "All"
Really great stuff Chuck! Anyone can read an FM or postulate but EXPERIENCE is priceless. I personally liked the explanation on attachment hardware. Haven't a found a source for this info before.
Keep doing what you're doing!
Excellent information. I’m just a regular dude trying to get better with my firearms for self defense. I like the way you compare why some gear is better than another. I have an esstac belt I’m working on setting up. I want to get my gear setup for when a P&S trainer comes by my area.
Thank you for making this video. It really helped me drill down on what I need, vs what someone wants to sell me.
I love my Ares belt for duty use, but if you're running the ELS mounts take a look at Safariland's ELS Belt. Yes, the belt is a "gamers belt", but it works great for a training rig where you have different load-outs based on the class. I modified my belt with a Carbon Arms Belt Ratchet Kit. It helps with getting the belt on and snugs it up to the velcro underbelt. I placed the ratchet at 4 o clock behind my holster (right Handed) to give me as much real estate for mounting the ELS 35's. Give it a try, I hope it helps.
On my Tech lock products that I use for competition and range use actually went and bought stick on hook and loop and put it on the back sides of the buckles so I wasn't losing that hook area so my belt didn't slip around
Love the belt! I actually had to see how you set up the front strap cause I wasn’t sure how it went!
Did you find a specific video for this? Still trying to figure it out
@@YG-ei7wu Negative Sir, I just observed how you did it on the video, then applied it. I love this belt, really takes the load off of how sturdy it is!
Great in depth video on belts.
Alexander Wendt Thank you, Sir.
Chuck, I have watched this and saw your post on on IG about mission load out which won’t be published for good reason. I would love to see what you would run on a mission just regarding the belt. I know you mentioned just running off a trouser belt. Thanks for the video.
Chuck, check out the blueforce gear ten speed dump pouch. Just like the chalk bag but tucks up into the elastic. Totally out of mind if you don't need it and super light.
Joseph Livi That is an SSE pouch and I use them. SSE pouches are not dump pouches, two different uses.
True true. I suck up the pain-in-the-assness of getting a mag in there for the size benefit.
Presscheck Consulting What is the difference? Because most of those pouches are marketed as being able to do both s far as I know.
dump pouches are more rigid and specifically designed to accept magazines that need to be stowed rapidly. SSE bags are lightweight, usually compressed and kept completely out of the way, but allow expansion to hold items recovered on the battlefield until they can be properly bagged, tagged, and prepped for extraction as evidence/intel. an SSE bag might hold a pistol or something temporarily until it can be transferred to a proper SSE bag. The downside of SSE bags is that they are normally not durable and with nor stiffness they are more likely to bounce, twist, and rattle around while running. They would be less than optimal for quick stowage of mags. I don't quick stow magazines during missions so I have no need for a dump pouch, only an SSE bag which is rarely used either. Most of the time studd on the deck stays on the deck until things are done and then they are picked up and proper stowed. If I need to retain a mag for some reason (movement in an urban area where I will not return) The mag is stowed in a cargo pocket until I can secure it elsewhere.
Presscheck Consulting Thanks. Did you carry a lot in your pockets?
The tactical tailor fight light dump is pretty small with a good closure and it folds up nice and flat when not in use, and when open isnt a giant hooker gape that catches on everything.
To help with stopping the IFAK from moving up and down, May I suggest you a small Velcro wire wrap to secure the mollie strap to the size you with.
What do you need before the range first aid bag gets there? Rubber gloves.
NARP Black Talons are kept in the front thigh pockets. I handled stinkies living and dead for the last 16 years. You better believe that rubber gloves are on the list. lol
where can I find the belt mounting system clips you use with the ELS attachments? I couldn't find them on the safariland site.
you can use some adhesive to secure Velcro to the back of those tekloks
Maybe using the first spear missing ling with the dark angel pouch might hold it more secure to your belt
Hey Chuck, a little late to the game now since you posted this but have you checked out the First Spear Missing Link attachments for molle looped gear? They would probably help tighten up that slack in your medkit if you're still running it on your belt.
The EZ8 shot shell carrier is adjustable for shell size and will work with the ElS system.
Never heard of it, I carried breaching loads loose when I ran a slung 870. Good suggestion........ out of stock, all colors.
Presscheck Consulting Blowers runs one for breaching.
...that or just search for "12 gauge DoD breaching rounds" and go with those; they're 2.75" and come in an obviously-government-focused plain white box covered in black lettering that is primarily composed of what appears to be random numbers and letters. I bought them a long time ago because I thought "sometimes my lock-picks take too long", but I've never used them so granted maybe they are Unobtanium now. (So if you need them for some crazy-ass reason, Chuck, let me know and I'll send like 8 of them your way, LOL)
So the weight-saving of just a duty belt is more comfortable than the padding of a war belt?
Or would you recommend a war belt when you need to carry a lot?
Love the fenix 5X. Wish my tiny chick-sized wrists didn't make the X look like I was wearing a skateboard wheel.
Is that med pouch a tearaway design? Is that feature necessary for a belt mounted med kit?
I picked up a "Condor 3 Fold Mag Recovery Pouch" dirt cheap - so for all I know it's going explode into fabric confetti the first time I use it - but it feels and looks non-shitty (especially given the price) and folds up (as the name implies..?) into a relatively thin roll that is is then velcro'd together. Yeah, it's Condor, but if you don't like dump pouches to begin with I'll put my noob reputation on the line (can a Tacticool Reputation Score even _go_ negative?) and suggest it's worth the
Maybe use MLS and a clip for the med bag
What gun is that in the tan Safariland holster?
Hey Chuck, have you seen or had any experience with the blue alpha gear double duty belt set and (if so) what are your thoughts?
Kurt Henrie I'm using a Blur Alpha inner belt with this outer belt right now. The inner belt is not a thick or rigid as the Ares gear so it feels less bulky when paired up with the Ares outer belt.
What do you think of the various Glock Magazine extensions? Worth it at all now that Magpul has the 21 rounders?
gwgammell I'm just getting into testing the Falcor extensions so I can't make a call on it. The Dawson +5 is still my all time favorite at the moment.
Where did you get the mini cym stick holder from?
Any experience with the g-code RTI system? Seems like a similar idea in modularity.
No, I don't run any G-Code kit.
Any experience with HGSI belts? Like slim grip belt?
Anybody have the product number or exact name for the ELS belt mount? I keep getting results for the ELS belt system, looking for the same thing Chuck is showing here....
Would you say this is still your preferred belt?
Ive found myself using the Blue Alpha belt more lately for pistol classes because it is lighter and packs better for flying trips.
That’s the belt everyone keeps telling me to get. Thanks for the content Mr. Pressburg!
No problem Buddy! That's what I'm here for!
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Hey chuck appreciate the video sir, i have a question is this there le duty belt or there ranger belt? Looking at picking one up, i need a good range belt. I love the inner belt design makes it so easy to just leave your gear in the same spot and not have to take your gear off and on.
That's the duty belt. The Ranger is a rigid EDC, which I enjoy using in the winter when I EDC OWB under layers.
@@presscheckconsulting3449 Ok thank you very much for the reply Chuck, Really appreciate it! are u still using the ares duty belt for the range?
Ares duty is my preferred non-molle/PALS range belt.
@@presscheckconsulting3449 im definitely going to pick one up, thanks for the input chuck
what is your pistol holster?
Hey chuck i got a question sir, where did u get that strap you use for your midride ubl and qls attachment? I have the ubl midride and qls just like you, in need of a strap to make it more secure. Thanks chuck i appreciate your time 🇺🇸
Do u just use the strap that comes with the 6004 27 dfa leg shroud from safariland? Wondering if u can buy a strap seperately instead of buying that 6004 27 dfa leg shroud attachment
yeah it's one of my many 6004 leg straps sandwhiched between the holster and UBL. I believe safariland sells replacement straps.
@@presscheckconsulting3449 ok thanks chuck, i did find a replacement 3004 leg strap from safariland which i assume is the same one that comes with the 6004 dfa leg shroud. Which do u prefer the shroud with qls or the midride with the leg strap? I was going to pick up the 6004 dfa leg shroud attachment but i already have the midride with qls. Id rather ask your opinion since u know your stuff. In other words i trust your opinions very much
@@presscheckconsulting3449 would love to see you do a class up here in maine. That would be amazing. This place needs skilled people like you to train us up here. There isnt many good instructors up this way that i am aware of
Why not tacos or scorpions instead of having to swap mag pouches and add the extra weight of the teklok and/or ELS?
Bruce Tuller Tacos are shit, hard to get items back into and the shock cord is a complete snag hazard. I'm not a fan.
From which platform did you do your speed reloads when you were active duty? From your belt or from your plate carrier?
Plate carrier. My belt location on the left had other special equipment on it and prevented mounting of pistol or rifle reloads.
Just wondering, what was that special equipment?
Have you checked out the AWS/ Ronin tactics belts?
James Peters nope