Top Chemist on Terrence Howard's JRE Episode "Chemistry is POETRY!" | Lee Cronin
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Curt Jaimungal and Lee Cronin openly discuss Terrence Howard's recent appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience. This is NOT a debunking video. Curt and Lee review some clips from the Terrence JRE episode and discuss what is scientifically accurate and what still needs more review and what may be mistaken. This is meant to be an open minded yet scientifically accurate discussion. Let the open minded yet scientifically rigorous discussions continue!
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I've sent out invitations to Terrence Howard to come on the podcast in various ways prior to this recording. Love to have him on. Unfortunately, there's been no response so far. If you know Terrence Howard, the invite is open. - Curt
I'm also a part of the USP this is best. Darren would honestly be best for Kurt.
Also Robert Edward grant. He’s a mathematician who’s found the locations within natural geometry of all the known math constants in work derived from Walter Russell’s.
either your slow or willfully ignorant...u know damn well he talking about frequency when he talks about tone...all chemistry is frequency at its base...so a vibration frequency set at the same as the chemical will excite it...ie you get 30% more hydrogen when you induce sound vibration set to the same frequency as hydrogen during the electrolysis process.... facts it has been done..
The only proper way to have this conversation is with Terrence present
Thank you for taking him seriously. He might be completely wrong, but he’s definitely not ‘crazy’, which is how many others are painting him to be. While I’m thankful of you 2, you’re simply reiterating conventional physics and chemistry which he’s challenging. I think the only way to ‘debunk’ him is to understand his point of view first. So thank you for extending the invitation.
This is Terrence Howard… I was specifically referencing the prime resident frequency of hydrogen, carbon, silicone, and cobalt, and rhodium that they all lie within the same spectral lines on a spectrometer that tones where the key of E as in music based on a Pythagorean 32 as space I wasn’t talking about GEV’s or VEE or any of those other things I’m not talking about energy beyond energy represented in oscillations or in frequency. Attempt to have someone on your show to talk about what I’ve said without inviting me there to defend what I’ve said. It’s sort of a serpentine way of dealing with a situation. I would love to meet up with him and you and have a conversation on my channel.
Pythagorean 432
I hope he sees your posts.
If you are actually Terrance, your ego is getting in the way of an honest conversation.
What a bunch of made up BS
The invite to the real Terrence had been made public by Curt many times. Even in this video :)
Sorry, they both don’t understand that “Key of E” refers to music? They decided he meant something else…? No, he said what he meant, guys: “Key of E”. The frequency associated with the note E, which doubles at every octave of E.
Yeah, this was cringy to listen to. Love you, two, but damn….
I agree. I think this is how they discredit people with information that disrupts the power structure. The pretend that they don't understand and don't get it so it must be false information
They purposely bungled that part. It was too obvious
Kev....Gev? No the key of E, as in the frequency that if you keep doubling will eventually end up as a frequency in the visible spectrum, with a corresponding colour that has nothing to do with the aesthetics of the element, nor how you burn it 🤷
Yer I'm 3 mins and was thinking the same..Key of 'E'. kiev ? what are these on? haha. let it roll :)
I am astounded by the number of people defending Terrence. I would love to see a top physicist explain the recreation of Saturn with no gravity.
it speaks to a tremendous failure on the part of our country's public education system. Anyone who took and passed basic introductory science and math courses in high school *should* be able to see that what TH said in the JRE interview was literally nonsense... totally disconnected from an understanding of even the most basic concepts of chemistry and mathematics. Just utter horseshit drivel... like the scribblings of a schizophrenic. That there is a sizeable number of functioning adults that can't recognize this and think TH is on to some new groundbreaking understanding of reality is deeply concerning, and it's a condemnation of our society. We have big problems.
No surprise given the HUGE number of catastrophically stupid people in the world.
You just need a high school physcist. I mean when a guy says he knows more than Einstein at age 6 because he learned it in a prior life, that's when you call the guys with the white coats to come get him.
@@YTSparty :) "The mistake Newton made was" another classic line
Terrance said there's no straight lines in the universe
To prove that you have look at fibinachi sequences. The building blocks of everything. Since there are no straight lines. That blows all the math to pieces. Terrance is right
Breaks my heart to see so many intelligent people wasting time trying to make sense of Howard's shuck and jive.
I'm actually very grateful the scientific community is being very vocal and educating the public about scientific scrutiny, and basically the tried and trued Scientific Method itself. It's a beautiful sight. Is it possible Howard is onto something? Highly unlikely, but I do admire the dedication and drive.
@@modernlunacy4341I've seen smarter people than me breaking down how no, he's not on to something.
@@BoogieBoogsForever He may be ON something - or he may need to be.... but his thoughts are stream of consciousness psedoscientificobabble, nothing more
@@BoogieBoogsForever My point is that all theories are put through the scientific method, and no theory can bypass the process. Clearly, Howard was mistaken, but that shouldn't disqualify him from receiving constructive criticism. You have to keep in mind that the vast majority of the population isn't put through formal scientific training, and therefore don't benefit from expert practices and review.
There are no intelligent people taking him seriously, only complete idiots and people who're mentally ill.
He's arranging the periodic table based on frequency, not atomic mass. He doesn't say the periodic table is wrong, just that there are different relationships between the elements based on frequency rather than mass.
Relative mass is a relative accumulation of motion, which has its own frequency, color, geometry etc, depending on that accumulation, and position within the wave octave. According to Walter Russell
the point is terrance did not create that periodic table it was created by walter russell 90% of what terrance was saying was already known, what he said new was the flower of life stuff
@@pooman2 so not according to reality
He literally says it's wrong
@@DadeMurphie according to Russell’s understanding of reality. If you got any counter arguments I’d love to hear. Plenty of “he’s wrong” without any specific arguments out there. Pretty much all of them actually
Albert Einstein been awfully quiet since this dropped
totally agree. i think he's dropped off big time
🤣🤣🤣
Weird, I can hear him turning in his grave from here
Thought Mr.Einstein stood on 10 toes, turns out he's not even 6ft deep.
Not a peep out of Da Vinci either.
I don’t understand why they are being so gracious to talk about Terrence Howard’s rantings as if they made any sense whatsoever. And I don’t think it’s an ad hominem to say that so-called “Terryology” (that’s literally what Terrence calls his “science”) is beyond stupid. Seriously, Professor Dave Explains podcast on this topic said it BEST.
These gentlemen are just being unnecessarily kind instead of straightforward. You can’t make it make sense. It’s a discourtesy to the public to entertain the gibberish he (TH) so confidently pushes out, he’s a great actor. I’ll give him that.
It’s amazing you don’t see how close minded you are
@@nkoppa5332 No. Ir's not closeminded to be accurate.
5 + 5 is ten. It's not closeD minded to not entertain someone saying 5 + 5 is 11. Or green.
You need to grow up and become more precise.
@@BoogieBoogsForever its very close minded, be the tolerant enlightenment era atheists you take after
Because they are two professionals being respectful. It would be easy to just dismiss TH with names and ridicule but instead they entertain his.. 'theories' with scientific rigour. They certainly don't owe him anything and could better occupy their time on more pressing issues, but educating the public is also important.
I want terrance howard to pay a contractor and workers to construct a house based on his mathematics and see if that house holds up
😂
They actually figured out 3d cement houses as a dome before the more common square pattern used now 🤷🏽♂️
Sooo, are you a contractor? Is this a get rich quick scheme? ☺
Of course it would hold up, because gravity isn't a thing...apparently. Just ask Terrance.
That's not saying much considering you can make a home out of anything and looking at these gents they appear to be from a region where they do make homes out of literally anything
I am not a scientist or anything remotely close. I have only a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Literature, and even I know that within the first minute of the interview Terrence had with Joe Rogan, he's clearly talking about sound/pitch/frequencies/MUSIC! He is not talking about "energy." He literally uses the terms "tone" and "hertz." I'm shocked that the host and his guest did not pick up on this during their reaction to the interview.
when you are already in a mood to roast someone who speaks language that flies over their heads.
Because they’re not retards that fall for a schizo’s ramblings
He's talking to a chemist, not a musician. The chemist is just going to explain the elemental chemistry that Terrance has decided not to learn. They refer to the music claim as an allegory and Terrance's explanation as confusing and wrong.
it show how stupid these scientist are today
There is a history of hiding and intentionally misleading to protect some informations from getting to the masses and changing thought patterns. They have done this against Einstein. Insulting him and all.
It may have one of those unintended consequences the overlords are worried about us. If I see more smear tactics than just informing the public I become suspicious.
He is trying describe a model of reality that is fractle/Holographic/hermetic in nature. He's mimicking nature. He might not be right but I don't think using mainstream education to understand what he's getting at will work. Why not have him in for a debate like he asked for. Curt your the perfect host for this type of discussion because your polite yet firm and u hold people accountable.
Totally agree
Maybe a different shade of colour is perceived both up and down the spectrum? Similarly there is a middle C in music and another version of C an octave higher.
Completely agreed!
At the end of the vid Curt said he reached out to Terrence but got no response, I hope he gets a response tho cuz I agree I'd love to see an actual convo between Terrence and this chemist moderated by Curt so we can try and understand what this dude was trying to say
Yea… you have to ask him (Terrance) to explain himself and his patents.
It's amazing we have an established highly reputed PhD chemist breaking down a Hollywood actor's trip. What a time to be alive.
A trip is krazy because if he was off shrooms I’m rollin 😭😭😭
And he can't even debunk him because he doesn't even understand what Terrance Howard is even saying. When I hear Terrence Howard talking about this stuff, it's not that I don't understand it - I do; it's just that it's wrong.
it's crazy that time is being wasted with this moron that's the real issue
When he says he doesn't understand, he doesn't mean it in a conventional way. A well trained scientist is very carefull not to make assumptions about anything. Terrence is explaining everything in a very confusing way and because of that he cannot be refuted by a well trained scientist. If Terrance was more specific and intentional with his words it would easier to refute it
It was definitely a DMT trip
I love how they play like 2 words at a time and then pause the video and try to explain what he says.
It doesn't take much more to realize what he was saying wasn't making sense. It didn't make sense to you. Doesn't make sense to actual scientists. They were very polite the way you would be with a 4 year old.
Because he is talking out of his ass andd they are trying to make sure well meaning people aren’t falling for his bullshit. Like MAGA retards falling for the latest right wing grift, you know the type.
🤣🤣
I know right
😂😂 Yeah so much nonsense so densely packed in.
I absolutely LOVE that he has math and science trending in social media instead of rappers and scandals! People arguing if he's a genius or a nut will inevitably pull up research! Howard is making math and science COOL!
Same
the jewish are the ones who put the rappers up there
no he's not.
he showing u u can talk a lotta shyte and most people will be gaga.
Yeah, most people won't actually learn anything from anything he said. If they try to research legit chemistry they'll get bored. If they research crackpot conspiracy chemistry, they'll just fall down a rabbit hole of stupidity.
@@spacevspitch4028 I can’t disagree with you on that but stuff like this shines a spotlight on the legit guys too.
I appreciate that these gentlemen aren't being dismissive. They are trying to be fair and understand.
I was waiting for this sentiment. They were very kind with their assessment unlike many other self righteous folk
They’re very gracious. Nevertheless, Terrence Howard’s assertions are, at best, totally confused.
@@philipestrin4381 I tend to agree with you, but I think he has synesthesia. That may explain his ideas of "notes and octaves" related to elements.
They didn’t even watch the episode. They’re commenting on clips. Disappointing.
this is definitely not Terrance
What terrence actually said: "You need six hammer the ice cream to monkey off eleven dizzy
YES! [Prof. Dave]
Nice copy from another podcast
Zactly
Haha! I saw the Professor Dave Explains podcast too! And I agree!
Pootie Tang math: sign your pity on the runny kind with the tangent of the megahertz. Tippy tah.
Terrence Howard: Sop diddy. Makes sense.
Why dont you invite him to your podcast and let him explain what he means? And have this gentleman there also to ask any questions
I would love that. Explicitly invited him. Still waiting. If you have a connection, please reach out to him. - Curt
@@TheoriesofEverythingyou seem to be a kind person with an open mind. But Is it kind to affirm the delusions of a mentally ill person and humor their delusions in front of a large audience? If indeed he is mentally unstable and diagnosed with mental illness, would you still have him on your show?
Aye ask him what's 1×1 😂
@@conormooney5786😂
@@conormooney5786 1x1 does sound silly but i would like someone to first define multiplication and see if it conforms . It might be an anomaly to the rule that needs to be explained
I believe Terrence’s podcast was an overall net positive because he is producing thought provoking conversations for a group of people that might not otherwise think critically about these subjects
Unfortunately those people aren't going to think critically. They think "an idea that goes against an established discipline? Must be true!" and they believe it without second thought.
How are ya'll so dumb? If you'd have spent time in physics class in 9th grade you would see how absolutely bogus all of Terrence's "new concepts" are
@@NyteMunkey EXACTLY. All you get is more clueless people whose only interest is that he _sounds deep_ and sounds like he knows what he's talking about. They'll buy into his word salad drivel as if he's some kind of wizard with secret esoteric knowledge that means something when it means absolutely nothing. Like you said, they just hang onto the conspiracy aspect of it and immediately jump to his defense without a second thought.
@@NyteMunkey You have to agree with this though right?
Better what Terrance does, than what Diddy does.
Diddy will steal your children, male or female, and entice them with his power...and then give them pneumonia to death if they tell him No.
Terrance, as misguided as he is on many things, will just try and argue with you...and maybe start a podcast.
Let's deal with the Diddy's of this world before we care about the Terrances.
@@NyteMunkey Yeah, and then theres people who decide to go on the other end of the spectrum and eat that shit up, putting on their tinfoil hat and yelling at everything mainstream, as if its not mainstream for a good reason. Everything's a conspiracy, everything is evil, everything we know is wrong, blah blah blah. Aliens. The modern world is built by established science, that works, and that is giving us the chance to use our devices to talk on the internet and communicate across the globe. But unfortunately, a large portion of the audience for this kind of subject just prefers to believe in the fantastical, to make their world/lives more exciting and interesting.
I’ve never seen someone trying so hard to not call someone stupid that they convinced themselves that the subject was actually intelligent. Saying that 1 times 1 equals 2 isn’t sharp or creative. It’s the definition of ignorance
Terrence howard a perfect example of how you can't rationalize someone out of a bad argument if they came to their conclusion irrationally. There's nothing rational about him remembering being in the womb doing math and 'discovering' that 1*1 actually equals 2. There's no amount of arguing against that
I agree. The problem with this guy is that he doesn't even have a solid understanding of basic level chemistry, math or physics but goes ahead and just creates his own reality. Typical narcissist. This guy is out there, but not smart.
There is no rationalizing with his followers either.
My bet is on Schizophrenia
Dont worry, in 70 years they will all agree that what Terrence said was truth and it will become common knowledge, we are too arrogant to acknowledge the flaws in our current knowledge.
@@808FeeAsking someone their opinion about someone or a subject, that admits they didn't even study or watch the subject matter. Is like asking a Worm, How do Birds Fly.
Also, Thousands of years ago Newton supposedly discovered Gravity. When he explained it to the Common Man, did Newton have a Basic Understanding of it? Remember, Someone always has to be first at Understanding something, before Another Understands it. Then it becomes easy or common knowledge.
Both of these two, missed what Terrence is saying or explaining.
"Is bisexual tone something that chemist call chemicals?" Lmfao!!! I cant believe Curt asked that question with a straight face. 🤣
Bisectional seems to be what he’s trying to say
you know in a lot of languages they assign a gender to things? wonder why that is
@@technoweasel8937 hermetic principles, everything has gender.
Kurt is no big sexual he is Pansexual
@@technoweasel8937 In many cases it's just a simple matching of feminine/masculine sounding words with a corresponding pronoun. For example, in English we know a name like Anna is feminine, so we could say banana, drama, and mascara are all feminine too. It's unrelated to sex in that a cobra could be a feminine animal, but a male cobra is still a boy. Sometimes words can switch gender in their diminutive/augmentative forms so a masculine warrior may become a feminine mega-warrior. Still, I am not sure how an element can be bi/hetero/homosexual, any more than a table can be.
I think it's diabolically funny that you made this poor man try and rationalize terryology
Diabolically funny is exactly right.
Necessary as well. This type of middle school information should replace commercials on tv.
Bro that’s Lee Cronan he’s like Rick Sanchez type mad scientist man he’ll be fine with this
😂
That’s hilarious!
I was looking everywhere for an intellectual analysis of his reasoning so thank you for taking the time to put this together and teach us Level 1-2 folks a little from a chemistry standpoint!!
How can you guys be so dense to not understand that he's referring to frequency and wavelength? Key of E not KeV. As in musical notes. There are harmonics and octaves in notes, that's what his analogy is! I'm an electrical engineer, and I understood what he was referring to!
Because that makes no sense when discussing the periodic table. They were giving him the benefit of the doubt. You are essentially removing that doubt and proving Terrence knows nothing.
Then you should have understood it was blatant nonsense and saved yourself the extreme embarrassment of your comment.
He is saying that hydrogen, on a spectrometer, appears in a band that has a number value. That number value, when translated to hertz, gives us an imperceivable sound. When we drop that tone down to the audible spectrum, we get roughly the key of D Flat. I don't know why Terry thinks it's E, it's very clearly in the band of D Flat, but it doesn't matter.
Terry relating hydrogen to sound because he looked at a spectrometer and saw a similar number, is akin to relating an airplane to a turtle because they both move. It doesn't matter, and the connection between those things is essentially non-existent, so the real scientist connected Terry's nonsense to something that makes a bit more sense.
@@laartwork They should still address his arguments as presented. Especially since "E" wasn't the only key he was mentioning, so "KeV" as some kind of charitable interpretation still doesn't make any sense. The only thing more annoying than that Howard episode are the debunks that don't properly drill down into what they claim to be drilling down into. It's like I'm having my time wasted two different times.
"All your viewers must know what an atom is already"; this is a gross overstatement, Lee. You're on CZcams.
Physicists still don’t know what light is and they still don’t know what consciousness is. They can describe their qualities of off observational characteristics but don’t know how either work or exist at all. Walter Russell’s work was an attempt to explain both in great detail. 3rd graders understand atoms are particles that are just really really teeny tiny. That’s all this chemist knows about them too except he can recite all the different ones and their characteristics provided by other limited understandings of what a particle of matter is. The term “particle” is a lazy convenient way of describing a system of wave actions. Limited intellects can only think of particles as solid objects so that’s how they teach it and how most conceive it. To comprehend the wave aspects of particles isn’t that great of a leap. Waves are expressed in curvature. This curvature is expressed as spiral vortices not “up and down” curved two dimensional lines. Waves are a function of electrical/magnetic forces. The foundation of what this electricity and magnetism really is, is what Russell explained in his work. When you understand these fundamentals, you can then properly manipulate the structures these fundamentals create and how they interact with each other. Once humanity makes this leap, very little will be impossible and there will never be scarcity of anything.
@@charlesp7504No that's not how it works, physics is NOT just about characteristic but about MECHANISM, that's the whole reason why we are able to build technology. You see, engineers put things together in creative ways, but those parts are based on sound theoretical groundwork done prior by scientists working in materials science, physics etc. Whatever device you're using to post your comment, be it a phone, laptop, whatever, it's essentially a computer. All computers use processors which are packed with transistors. A transistor is based precisely on a SOUND understanding of electricity, of the flow of electrons, and how to control that flow to create a switch which can act as a conductor in one direction, and a resistor in the other. Semiconductors are doped silicon, so basically silicon that is treated to have desired characteristics because those desired characteristics provide the proper MECHANISM for the flow of electrons as understood by the theoretical groundwork laid out by physicists.
all of you knowitall commenters in these channels... you are like drivers in cars. like 90% of you think you are doing it right, and you actually suck at it.
@@charlesp7504 Lack of scarcity poses a problem for those that benefit from such scarcity. Capitalism evaporates, Banking becomes irrelevant.
@@amonnanjaku Yes, paradigms will change but forms of capitalism will always exist. Even in the strictest communist countries, people still try to figure out ways they can trade labor for more food and basic necessities. If freedom of being survives, innovation will still be motivated by reward. If freedom of being doesn’t survive and totalitarianism determines allocation of resources, then it doesn’t matter how much abundance exists as those resources will be utilized for coercion and control which is the threshold we’re in now. Capitalism isn’t the devil in this world, the devils are and they like power and control and in no way would they want to share anything with billions of peasants when they could have a whole world to themselves.
One man is at the frontier of discovery, having an adept understanding and relationship with the elements. The other is at the frontier of mastery, having an in-depth understanding of concepts and ideas already established by other men. One is attempting to be a revolutionary, the other is happy to be a conduit, passing established information down to younger generations.
No one is as you said, conduit to you get generations. The other is a conman who lied about his patents, his credentials, and copied Walter Russels theory while mixing it up with a bunch of nonsense.
The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
@@joshuam4993 yea he was fact checked about a lot of things he said and they were lies. Its amazing how no one brings up how he not only believed he had the power "to destroy mankind" but he was "considering" it. LOL
@@joshuam4993 Did you check the claim of his patents yourself, or did you just read that in a comment somewhere and ran with it?
The older gentleman sounds institutionalized as wow. No questioning of the status quo. This is what the institution say and nothing else.
@@joshuam4993 he has proof and his patent isn’t fake. You’re just a hater
I only found your page because Treance confused me so much. I went to college for engineering. I understood that his base knowledge was good, but it was layered with confusing words and concepts. I thought I was missing something, but I am glad others were confused as well. Thank you for having this conversation.
I doubt this conversation was clear enough. I have a better one to offer:
czcams.com/video/lWAyfr3gxMA/video.htmlsi=11S-ChhfG9snmOxp
He is a actor ! 🙃
I am personally fascinated by what Mr.Howard is saying and learning so much because of it.
No you arent...my god people are stupid...
Not from him you aren't - from the surrounding debate, potentially = everything TH spouts is hot b0ll0x!
To all my fellow stupid people tuning in... :)
As soon as they missed the reference to "Key of E', did you feel slightly smarter than everyone else in the room??
I felt superior in that moment.
Don't get used to it. It's your peak point of life i'm sure.
I felt like a G (knee us).
I feel connected to the flower of life now
@@MrRizzyWizzy Lol
@@MrRizzyWizzy you're why it'll all end anyway.
I'm bipolar, I can tell you, this looks exactly like a manic episode. I've had a few, one time I was convinced the government was after me, another time I was convinced my wife was involved in a conspiracy against me. I am also a mathematics student. Sometimes my hallucinations would help me solve math problems on tests, sometimes they would help me memorize things. I wasn't talking to anyone about these things, so... what I'm saying is... when you're in mania, the feelings are powerful, and raw, and sometimes it feels like you need to 'figure something out' or theres like... something you need to solve. When you mix these 'feelings' with real life and you're simultaneously being bombarded with information, these strong feelings, hallucinations, etc, you can end up delusional. Under the belief that these feelings, these thoughts are based in reality. This man doesnt need judgement, he needs a therapist. The shame, guilt, embarassment, that comes from when you actually come back to reality after a manic episode... ugh I'm so glad I'm not a public figure.
It's a strange time we live in
EXACTLY
Thanks for sharing. There’s a video on Chris Lehto’s channel just before he got sectioned where he thinks he’s figured out the secrets of the universe, it’s a hard watch.
Not even close. He was being way to rational .
Actually, I think it’s contemporary science that is living in its own bubble. // Yet, you May be right. I won’t argue anything more.
I felt like mr. Cronin was interviewd by Terrence himself. Interviewer was about himself.
Watching the professor explain elementary chemistry education makes you realize how much education indoctrinates you and how hard it was for Galileo or Keppler to convince the scientific community of anything new. People like Neil Degausse have only studied science for the sake of studying and yet never discovered anything of importance.
The musical note E corresponds to different frequencies (in Hertz) depending on the octave in which it is played. Here are the frequencies for various octaves:
Musical note E as played on a piano
- E0: 20.60 Hz
- E1: 41.20 Hz
- E2: 82.41 Hz
- E3: 164.81 Hz
- E4: 329.63 Hz (This is the E above middle C, often referred to as E4)
- E5: 659.25 Hz
- E6: 1318.51 Hz
- E7: 2637.02 Hz
- E8: 5274.04 Hz
These frequencies double with each ascending octave. The most commonly referenced E is E4, which has a frequency of 329.63 Hz.
Terrance is just correlating the periodic table with a musical construct
It's not Terrances idea. It comes from Walter russel.
The tone thing has validity but he didn't even explain it right. Walter russel wasn't talking about the sound we think is sound. He was talking about how gravity has octaves of compression and expansion. And these elements are at different stages of that. He likened it to the way sound works in the sense that air escaping produces a sound. Well matter has energy escalating and that produces a signature. They aren't literal keys like on a piano.
And it has nothing to do with the periodic table. That is why Russel who was an artist was also wrong.
I think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
@@laartwork No, he wasn't wrong. Terrance is a fucking actor who can't even do basic multiplication, or knows the difference between frequency and wavelength. Stop simping
And this links Hydrogen (1) Carbon (6) and Cobalt (27) in what way, exactly????
@@laartwork don't mistake Russels brilliance with Howard's ignorance. Russel never said the periodic table was the same as music we produce in atmosphere
He is saying our math and science is tone deaf!
its isnt tone deaf, it is already known the music tones of elements nothing he said was new it was just said to the masses for the first time on a huge podcast
Imagine farted in space, does it smell? Exactly 💯
Wow great wording. I see what u did there
Who is Imagine?
Yes, the music they play does taste a little funky.
This is a case study of what happens when someone doesn't think it's important to actually do the hard work to understand the fundamentals of a field, and instead thinks they can simply hopscotch through a superficial understanding of concepts and string unrelated things together through false analogies and salad or words that they think is related in their mind. Having a large number of patents to their name -- it simply means they have the financial resources to hire patent attorneys to push cockamamy, seemingly original, "inventions" through the patent system.
I am a retired Engineer and as such I have many concepts that have helped me over the years. Nevertheless, one of the most significant was the factor label method, which requires units to be clearly defined. Multipliers must be unitless, otherwise the products units will be in error.
Scientists are glitching out right now
Hard 😂
Terrence has their heads spinning, I love it.
Yep😂
lol no they arent, Terrence doesn't have a coherent theory. What's hilarious is fools keep insisting that Terrence is smarter than everyone else because they don't understand anything he said. Touch grass guys. Or learn basic math.
Naw they’re just baffled as to how anyone is believing any of Mr Howard’s nonsense
Two things are important in science: Describe your procedure and the results in such a way that others can reproduce it (experiment).
Describe a formalism that reliably and repeatably predicts the results from the initial situation (theory). Nothing Terrence Howard says has anything to do with one or the other.
Okay, so how does science explain GOD.? Since they can't, Terrence's explanation is the closest Anyone has come so far.
@@ballerblocks exactly!
Terrence has some of these patented. Why not check those if you're interested in the details.
I can patent anything that doesn’t mean my parents work or have any actual basis!! Seriously?
@@ballerblocks science cannot explain something that does not exist
The description of the "playful" scientist and the "stubborn" scientist really rung with me. In my field, we have engineers and designers, I should say we used to have those. The designers or "playful" side are tasked with coming up with interesting, inventive ideas, that they are unsure if is possible, but they don't let that slow them down. That "playful" inventiveness eventually runs up against the "stubborn" engineer, that is convinced of nothing until it can be proven to be correct. That interesting play, back and forth, between designer and engineer, is what allows us to make progress, into the future. When I was younger, it would drive me insane, on how "closed minded" engineers were, until I was taught that engineers are why skyscrapers don't fall over and plane are constantly falling out of the air. But designers are why we even began thinking about skyscrapers and planes. Both reliant on each other to make the who thing work.
Yes great point. The funny part is that Terrence is the closed minded one. He isn't able to accept his mistakes. When you prove 1x1= 1 he then said but action x action causes a reaction (which not always). It's crazy how people just accept what he is saying as making sense ... to someone.
and i also love how Curt Jaimungal navigates everything with brilliant openness , and sees were the level of understanding is really a big factor
he didn't say keV, he said key of E. the clue is the frequency
i am not saying any of this makes sense
here are all the Es on a piano, with their frequencies
E0 (subcontra octave): 20.60 Hz
E1 (contra octave): 41.20 Hz
E2 (great octave): 82.41 Hz
E3 (small octave): 164.81 Hz
E4 (one-line octave, middle E): 329.63 Hz
E5 (two-line octave): 659.26 Hz
E6 (three-line octave): 1318.51 Hz
E7 (four-line octave): 2637.02 Hz
E8 (five-line octave): 5274.04 Hz
E9 (six-line octave): 10548.08 Hz
E10 (seven-line octave): 21096.16 Hz
E11 (eight-line octave): 42192.33 Hz
How did they not understand he meant Key of E?
Thank you
432 hz, the healing frequency 🙏🏽 L O L and yes, whoosh right over their heads with simple knowledge
Key, not note of E. A key is the group of pitches, or scale, that forms the basis of a musical composition.
E major is a major scale based on E, consisting of the pitches E, F♯, G♯, A, B, C♯, and D♯.
This whole podcast reminds me of a race car driver, the mechanic, and the engineers, all arguing about who knows more about racing.
I'm a dog groomer and I understood what Terrence was saying regarding the frequency doubling so I'm a little surprised the professor didnt get it
Maybe you’re secretly a genius and the next Einstein/ newton. U should quit your job and make a new period table
A music theory class might help. Music is very mathematical.
The problem is that the concept goes way out of what he was tought and has known to be "true" for so long.
That’s why you are a dog groomer and not a scientist with a PHd.
@@connerr3623 Before you dismiss Lucidstates o quickly try reading about octaves in the contest of music theory. Then read about The Law Of Octaves in chemistry.
Both of these gentlemen are right extremely warm and courteous, both to each each other and regarding Terrence. I just can’t help but be dumbfounded by the lack of understanding, particularly on the part of the professor, of Terrence’s work. The Man has 95 patents to his name, most of which are based in an entirely different scientific system as he outlines at a very high level during his interview with Rogan. Several times in this video the professor says something like, “that’s not how modern chemist do their work” as some sort of evidence against the validity of Terrence concepts. The whole point of Terrence‘s work as well as the work of Robert Edward Grant and Walter Russell is that we can interact with the universe and the laws of physics in a fundamentally different way if we reinterpret some of the fundamentals we may be even just a little bit off. That’s why one time one equals two argument is so important. Because although the good professor here seems to completely miss it, the one times one concept represents a fundamental change in the most basic levels of mathematics and are understanding of physics and chemistry. Check out Robert Edward Grant and really dig into the work of Walter Russell. I will say though, if you’re only refutation to his work is that “ we don’t do it that way at my job”, you are literally missing the whole point. His models work, his concepts have been used to create real world technologies that are used by some of the top companies on earth. You gentlemen are worthy of respect in my book, and I would love to see you both take a little closer look at the broader context and background of work, particularly with Walter Russell and Robert Edward Grant. Best wishes 🙏
I look forward to seeing the practical applications of Terrence's discoveries...... I'll wait.....
I really appreciate the general respectful discourse in this conversation.
A 2-hour conversation between Katt Wlliams and Terence Howard should be put on pay-per-view. It would be the biggest money making event ever.
The whole point of this knowledge is that is free 😂
@@tempioxavonot all knowledge should be free
ROFL yes
They'd just stare at each other for 2 hours, occasionally nodding in agreement
40% Truth, 60% idiotic misunderstandinh
I thought they would have a breakdown on why he was wrong on some point he made, but they never did.
Basically they made it seem like they didn’t understand any points he made and still opposed what he said at the same time! 😂😂😂😂
They clearly didn’t understand even the basics, like what the key of E means 😂 I was blown away at their ignorance! Terrance was talking about frequency and everything has a frequency, which these two guys clearly don’t know. They need to get their money back for their degrees. So embarrassing
Of course they're opposed to it, Because if he's right and he is about 70% of it then everything they've based they're careers on is debunked overnight and they're out of a job, Hell virtually all academia is if they cant wrap there heads around it.
That's a big problem with mainstream studies I believe. That's why doctors aren't taught nutrition. The emphasis is money, not truth
@@christopherlocke9616 Go to college and start asking about how important frequency is schizo they will laugh you out the building
@@wormsalidoctors are taught nutrition in any reputable establishment
Where can I find the physics video that you referred to towards the end of your interview?
The string theory iceberg is here czcams.com/video/X4PdPnQuwjY/video.html and the "all of theoretical physics in 2 hours" is here czcams.com/video/e8kyvdPP8os/video.html - Curt
Hats off to Terrence for being able to generate this level of interactions and bring regular people of the world to listen or be interested in deeply scientific discussions by actual scientists and people in the academia!
When people go public with " I sent an invite and have not received a response" it should rarely be taken in good faith.
why
@@devvvvvvvvvvvv always a great question, and rarely answered in good faith.
@@devvvvvvvvvvvv😂
That’s nonsense
But I sent an email... Basically an invite amirite guise?
“People who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.” - Rob Siltanen
I welcome the change!
We must be ready for change!
with all the lies we've
been told and all the stuff they're hiding it wouldn't surprise me that TH is on to something
They are often the same to say climate change is a hoax among other outside the box "independent thinkers" who are framkly amatuers talking out their rear to a public that's believes them as a result of the eloquence in which his nonsense is said.
Elizabeth Holmes and other frauds use that quote a lot.
I love your sensible approach to the whole subject. I wish we handled contrasting ideas in this manner.
10:54 “I must admit I was incredibly confused” has me dying 😂😂
I think you might be misunderstanding what Terrence Howard is saying here he's not trying to say that the chemicals can be changed easily he just pointing out the mathematical fractal nature of the system... i believe.
And that everything is a wave.
Yes! It's like the missed the point entirely! // AquaianSoul, you should totally see my work in pitch analysis. I have been seeing sound AS colors since the day I was born!
- _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
Agreed. He definitely missed the point
Nothing he says is remotely close to the truth. Virtually every word he says is used incorrectly. He is hopelessly confused and assuming he might be onto something is hilariously absurd. A middle school student knows more about chemistry and the world around us than he does.
@stevengiuseppetti6555 he told the truth about his patent. Now that we established you as a liar, explain how he lies like you.
I lost it when the mans said, the sun's light rays are "nice straight lines" not realize that all light is waves . . .
Actually the photons wave-particle duality. The classical term of wave or particle cannot describe their behavior so they are kinda both.
Light ray instead is an optical term for a line that is perpendicular to the lights waves etc. Light rays can be straight or curved.
"They got confused by their eyes"
He's right about that statement, at least. Google something along the lines of sun rays straight. Sunlight is unique in that way, I forget what it's called... Collimated? It's the same principle as those special water nozzles that make the stream look like it's completely still, because the water comes out straight, all in the same direction.
You do realize that he's talking about the spectrograph of the sun on which you can see clear lines. If you want to look it up yourself its called fraunhofer lines.
(he wasn't talking about the beams but of a spectrum of frequencies)
Per Relativity all space-time is curved. Making an actual straight line would be the equivalent of folding space. If you include time and remember we are on a planet in orbital (circular) motion around a star, rotating about its own axis, and rotating around the galaxy, etc then the straight line you draw on a piece of paper is actually curved. It only appears straight relative to you and because the arc is so wide.
Y'all where so beautifully gentle. Since I saw the interview, I have been waiting for some accomplished people like yourselves to address it.
Given TH's following you are both quite brave honestly.
Given his spiritual path these last few years, I think TH is trying to associate esoteric/Hermetic principles of everything being Vibration & Energy Frequency to Chemistry like many are doing with Physics these days. Like in Cymatics or Vibrational Levitation. I think he may be trying to figure out how the Pyramids were built using levitation to move the stones with sound vibrations. Which was the same path Walter Russell was on when he created his version of the table.
Thank you.
Thank you professor! I’m a Ph.D. Chemist myself and Terrance disturbed me to the point I searched out this video.
The whole "tone" "octave" and "frequency" talk seems like he was referring to something to do with sound rather than colour?
idk what part you're referencing, but light can be described in wavelengths and turned into sound, i.e., sound waves; hence, you can turn the frequency of any color light into sound or at least an octave or tone that we humans can perceive.
More specifically a wave.
he's basically shifting frequency of color to audible frequency so visible colors irc are in terahertz so divide by 2 until you are in audible Hz or Khz frequency and he's assigning that to elements it's unclear to me how does it get color of element in first place because spectrogram of element has many lines with different colors like mentioned in this video.
Corect. He is talking about sound and the fact that it's frequency has correspondences with colours. There is a medical condition called Synesthesia where sounds trigger a person to see colours.
Everything is one thing, its all energy shelfs or levels they are interoconvertable
Absorption spectrum of an element is a function of the number of electrons in the atom. This absorption spectrum is correlated to a specific frequency of light. A musical note is correlated to frequencies of sound waves.
The musical note of A is correlated with a frequency of 440Hz. The frequency spectrum of hydrogen is correlated with wavelengths of 410 nm (violet), 434 nm (blue), 486 nm (blue-green), and 656 nm (red).
Here’s what I think Terence is doing. Both musical notes and elements are correlated with one or more frequencies. In music theory terms it’s possible for two different tones to be the same note, but an octave apart. E.g., a tone of 440Hz and 880Hz are both the note of A, but an octave apart. So, what if something similar is happening with the elements?
Of course, elements are different and the way they work will not be the same as musical notes work. Hydrogen is correlated to multiple frequencies. So, applying the same logic to elements would be a mistake. But the hypothesis of Terence is that there is a property of atoms (elements) that can be scaled (e.g. x2, like in musical notes) and you would end up with the same element, but different. Different frequencies but the same element. Just like music.
In music terms it’s perfectly fine to call two different tones the same note. Our music tradition/theory can support this. Our physics theory cannot support this argument. It might be perfectly reasonable to hypothesize that elements work in the “same” way that musical notes do. But we lack the theory of physics to explain why it would.
Terence’s hypothesis lacks a clear explanation of why we should look at elements in this way though. What is the benefit of thinking like this? But, I would like to compare it to Copernicus and his theory that the earth rotated around the sun. In 1543 why would it matter that the earth rotates around the sun and not the other way around? To me the idea of Terence is worthy of scientific research.
His claims doesn't make much sense because there is a multitude of frequencies emitted be every element. Therefore I haven't put too much time into this.
Hydrogen: The most prominent emission line is the Balmer series, especially the H-alpha line at approximately 656.3 nm, 4.57×10144.57×10^14 Hz.
Carbon: The prominent lines are in the visible spectrum around 658.0 nm (C II) and 723.1 nm (C I), 4.56×10144.56×10^14 Hz and 4.15×10144.15×10^14 Hz.
Silicon: Prominent lines are at 251.6 nm (Si I) and 288.1 nm (Si II), 1.19×10151.19×10^15 Hz and 1.04×10151.04×10^15 Hz.
Cobalt: Prominent lines include 345.4 nm (Co I) and 412.1 nm (Co I), 8.68×10148.68×10^14 Hz and 7.28×10147.28×10^14 Hz.
Rhodium: Rhodium does not have prominent lines in the visible spectrum, but significant lines are in the UV range, such as 343.5 nm and 369.2 nm, 8.73×10148.73×10^14 Hz and 8.12×10148.12×10^14 Hz.
While there are some close matches and potential octave relationships, the frequencies do not consistently align to suggest that they represent the same musical note across different octaves. The alignment to musical notes appears to be more coincidental rather than a strict scientific relationship based on the frequencies.
Absolute nonsense. Terrence is talking gibberish that is worth less than the sound my dog makes when it farts.
@@tomnolan4146 Based
@@tomnolan4146 I'm saying your response is fitting.
@@CriticalDispatches my apologies, I took it the wrong way.
Can we PLEASE get somebody like this to sit with Terrence and have LONG FORM Q & A. I bet he could explain it to the Chemist, instead we are just picking sides and nobody knows WTH they actually mean
You may not bit I understand loud and clear Terrance says 1x1=2 it's not but I found a clip where he explains if you have an apple in your hand I still have an apple thus 1×1=2 but that's flawed
If have 1 apple and give you 1 apple I have no apples you have 1 I don't still have an apple because you have an apple
*The two people analyzing Terrence got off on the wrong foot by not understanding what hertz means even when Terrence explained it to be frequencies of sound.*
Well that doesn’t apply to atoms, silly.
I bet the scientist knows what Hertz means. I don't think you do, though.
@@xBellevueBallerZx Hertz is a car rental company
@@mikebledsoe2315 and GigaHertz is what it will be called after Elon buys it.
@@CumiaBites but it might actually apply. Keep In mind that domains of study are often specialized.. so a physicist might not understand a musical scale. But there’s a physics professor “Jill Linz” who is trained in music who researched this topic and came to a similar outcome. Look her up
He's not saying they are the same element. He's saying that certain elements have a relationship.
He’s making analogies, he’s clearly got Synthestesia. He’s cross wiring different perceptions.
He’s comparing the difference in elements, to different keys of the same note on a piano.
He’s reflecting that the periodic table should reflect a fractal understanding of reality where each element exhibits self similarity but at different energy levels, rather than discrete way that scientists currently interpret them.
I don’t know if it’s right but that seems to be the most accurate way to understand it.
We've already known that elements have a relationship, that's what determined the arrangement of the periodic table, every column has elements that have a relationship, namely the same number of electrons in the outer most shells. This idea is almost 200 years old. The rest of what he is saying is mystical woo.
@@Dedicated_.1 well he did specify spectrometer
@@Dedicated_.1 Did he say anything about experiencing symptoms of synesthesia? This all appears to be the result of manic binging pseudo scientific youtube videos. I guarantee this guy has watched every Spirit Science video and believed it all.
That's not what he said.... Don't fucking completely change what he said and claim it's what was said.... He clearly states that they are indeed the SAME ELEMENT
"I didn't watch and listen to anything in context, so here's why he's wrong" 😂
Yeah what a lack of respect and pretentiousness.
Yeah giving feedback from snipets on the hop isn’t at all giving it a fair shout.
The passage is discussing the resonant frequencies of certain elements (hydrogen, carbon, silicon, cobalt, and rhodium) and how they correspond to musical notes, specifically in the key of E, when using a Pythagorean tuning system with a reference pitch of 432 Hz. The author emphasizes that they are not referring to concepts like GEVs (giga-electronvolts) or other forms of energy but are focusing on the energy represented in terms of oscillations or frequency.
Here's a breakdown:
Prime Resident Frequency: This likely refers to the natural resonant frequency of the elements mentioned.
Hydrogen, Carbon, Silicon, Cobalt, Rhodium: These are the elements being referenced.
Same Spectral Lines on a Spectrometer: The author suggests that the resonant frequencies of these elements fall within the same spectral range when observed on a spectrometer.
Key of E as in Music: This indicates that these resonant frequencies can be related to the musical note E.
Pythagorean 432: Refers to the Pythagorean tuning system where A4 is tuned to 432 Hz instead of the standard 440 Hz. This tuning system is based on the natural harmonic series and ratios.
Not Talking About GEV’s or VEE: The author clarifies that they are not discussing giga-electronvolts (a unit of energy in particle physics) or VEE (possibly voltage equivalent energy).
Energy Represented in Oscillations or Frequency: The focus is on the frequencies or oscillations of the elements, which can be related to musical notes.
In summary, the passage is making a connection between the resonant frequencies of specific elements and musical notes, specifically within the Pythagorean tuning system with a reference of 432 Hz, and clarifying that it is discussing energy in terms of frequency rather than in terms of high-energy physics.
I thought the same thing
This!
When your guest says, "I watched some of it", and "I'm fairly prepared" maybe its time to cut the interview off until the guest is truly familiar with what he is to critique. But, thats standard Academia.
Or, you know, it might have something to do with the fact he is rambling nonsensically. Which is why he's dumb enough to believe 1x1 = 2.
You're too kind. The only way to have this conversation with Terrence Howard is on so many mushrooms that it would make Terence Mckenna’s "Heroic Dose" seem trivial.
Terrence Howard's summation his scientific views as "allegorical" is not as allegorical as it seems. The color of yellow is E. I SEE the E as yellow, and also as triangular in shape. I actually see a color-shape for EACH note. Also, Mr. Howard explicitly stated that "it's the same exact tone, the same color, just doubled." Therefore the lower frequency would NOT be audible. Which, Terrence does go on to explain at bout 4:30. The point that Terrance Howard is making is that there is a definite and definable,pattered parallel between sound and light.
I'm a musician. A Classical pianist. My interest lies is how the elements relate to theme and lyrics in music. For example, I see A as the most grounded or "earthy" note (by nature of how it sounds in isolation). I see A as blue-violet. A sort of Indio-blue (and oval in shape). So, I realized that A is less personal (human/biogical), and rather, more cosmic and universal. Look at the expansive epic-ness of Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir." That's the sound of the breadth of the Universe itself. Indigo Blue. As far as what periodic element that frequency of A is, I don't know. I am a mere musician.
The guest at 11:20 "It's not "bad," but It's not correct to SAY that about the elements. That's not what they do. There is no mystery to the periodic table with respect to these numbers."
Yet, apparently there is. And it's even in color. // And that's about the ONLY thing that Mr. Howard is trying to convey here. Terrence is not a degreed chemist; He's trying to let us know (as I myself am thru my pitch analysis and my Theory of Pitch Psychology) that language of science must change if our minds are actually going to evolve. Because the language of contemporary science since at least the 1950's has been harboring a very limited, Descartian,/Euclidean mind-set that only creates great, cavernous boarders and limits to our thinking as men of science. There's a _reason_ why the scientist Mrs. Sabine Hossenfelder is an atheist. Science has been in a metaphysical crisis for a LONG TIME.
Who is to say that the elements CAN'T affect our psychology, mood, and temperament? They try to "Uncle-Tom" poor Terrence Howard with polite, "humane" dismissiveness. Yet it is THEY who refuse to see the connection. Less they be perceived as "anti-science." Art, like God, is truly dead.
I love the Theories of Everything channel, and I'm a subscriber. But the guys are truly not only missing the point on this one, but they are dismissing the very baby that they are about to show out with the bathwater.
Incidentally, my keyboard-invention, my Musicolor Matrix is laid out in the SHAPE of a periodic table. Only with the chromatic note names replaced with a color-shape. You can watch me play off of my Matrix in real time in my videos. And, for those interested in my won work, please find it here at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
I am really not happy about how people are receiving Mr Terrence's experience....this is one of the reasons I feel he might be right. The opposition is major seemingly
@@Neymarraps_23888 Dood! Yes! I am synesthete and musican. See my work here. My Musicolor Matrix and my Theory of Pitch Psychology.
Your, _Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
@@Neymarraps_23888 You are too kind. I"m SO HAPPY that you responded. I was worried that my comments wood have bin, let's just say, _put on hold._ (As they often are).
@@Neymarraps_23888 the amount of establishment backlash or complaining is usually proportional to how correct someone with a new theory is in human society
You should have been on the episode, not some chemist who’s mired in traditional thinking.
Finally! I've been checking youtube since that podcast to see if anyone has responded who is qualified to talk about his math.
a 5th grader is qualified to prove his math wrong, Terrence is mentally ill. But please keep calling him genius, it's interesting to see a new niche grow like the flat earthers.
czcams.com/video/77jXrcjEXXM/video.htmlsi=V4uDhM9LIJy76YVY
Check out the professor Dave explains episode on this.
@@davidbraut7051 Professor Dave did a great job countering all of the nonsense Howard was spewing.
Big up Lee! Can easily say he is my favorite chemist and consistently explains complex things in a digestible and interesting way. His explanations often borders on philosophical
I am not a scientist/chemist, I do find all this very interesting and want to know more to have a better understanding, thank you both for making what you are saying easy to follow trying to be objective and seemingly without bias, even though I don't fully understand everything that was said. Others that I have watched on this subject, have just slammed in saying this is BS or that is BS. Watching you guys makes me want to learn more.
Love how you both approached this, both open-minded and trying to understand. Would be great to see you guys interviewing Terrence and help him articulate his idea better
Yet they are not very embracing of the arts at all.
I take that back. // For some reason the NEED to distance themselves FORM the arts (in relation to their scientific work. And their very IDENTY as men of science.)
Same thing the way the ancient Sufi mystics spoke of the Aether of Space, yet I've spoke to nuclear physicsts from Los Alamos Labs (I'm a Classical pianist from New Mexico), and they would just sort of laugh-off the concept of The Aether as some sort of archaic voodoo. Modern science literally lives in fear of it's bubble being popped at any moment!
(See me at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_)
THIS 👆💯 is why i respect Kurt and his platform.
They were by no means open minded and trying to understand. They were dismissive and condescending only to make you do the same thing. That’s very disingenuous and dishonest and a slap to your face.
Absolutely not open minded. Are you kidding? Those of us who listened to the 3 hour conversation could instantly tell Lee was just chiming in Willy Nilly on a clip he was sent. Furthermore, a so called expert chemist not even being remotely familiar with the “key of E” was a bit alarming to me. Wait a minute, dude, you never had an elementary school music class and you’re an esteemed chemist? Haha, ok man, you probably need to get out of the lab for a while.
They’re talking down about TH as if they’re smarter than him.
I like that you guys weren't dismissive. Terrence is trying to make sense of the world. He has a hypothesis, and he is trying to prove it, which is cool. If 50% of what he says is correct, even 10%, would be okay.
Yeah but the only things he says that are true don't support his theories. He's speaking nonsense for the most part. Especially the math. He doesn't understand the concepts of basic math. Think about it, is Terrence all of the sudden the smartest man that ever lived, or is he mentally ill and regurgitating terms from theories he doesn't understand? I think we all know, we just don't want to call it because we love his acting. I do anyway. And that's why I'm angry, because he's going to be ridiculed and belittled in the future for this. He needs help, not a cult following.
@@aliengreeter I think he understands basic math he doesn't agree with it. he's tapping into philosophy/spirituality instead of the scientific method. I think he has some hard work ahead of him to try to prove his hypothesis. I take this over the flat earthers. P.S. I like his sun gave birth to Planets explanation.
@@NSAAMediaPlus you like his explanation that the sun poops out the planets and that the big red spot of Jupiter will one day become a moon? It's fun to think about in a sci-fi way but it's utter nonsense with zero basis in reality and there isn't a shred of evidence for it other than Terry saying so. (Which isn't actually evidence)
@@NSAAMediaPlus He also said that the storm on Jupiter will give birth to a planet ! A storm making a planet ! Totally stupid, as almost anything he say, This guy is at a high level of narcissism and delusion, he needs medical help.
@@NSAAMediaPlus basic math is 1 x 1 = 2?
If the elements in the periodic table were really oscillating at the frequencies that he claims, then we would be able to hear them since those frequencies that he cited are within the normal range of human hearing.
Key of E.. frequency, musical tones. Not "energy". Not KEV.
He is saying light, sound, magnetism, and electrical are all the same. We just have different sensors to see as much as we can. But we think they are not related due to our need to categorize concepts and confuse all of existence with human perception.
Curt.. If you can get TH on, it will be the catalyst you've been waiting for. You are the best person for the job. I wish you the best of luck in securing the opportunity.
Yeah because TH isn't going to be ridiculed enough as it is, lets have him go on TOE and do his psychobabble routine. You people are cruel, he's obviously mentally ill.
Terrence Howard makes being curious fun I can’t help but smile when I start to think of some of the concepts he’s presenting. I’m really glad that you took on the challenge to review some of his comments; much appreciated.
The thing is he doesn't promote curiosity. He's spreading misinformation and using old pseudoscientific ideas from other people and just claiming it's his. Nothing he presents is worth your time my friend. He is a liar and a charlatan. Scientific results only, anything that goes to pseudoscience is unreliable. His mentality is like oke of a cult leader. Please be very careful because his enticing "charm" is what hooks you into believing complete fantastical garbage that has no applications to your life.
The podcast needs to be revisited, with Joe, Terrence, a physicist, a theoretical physicist, a biological physicist and a master music producer. Then sparks will fly.
Thank-you for fleshing out many of the issues raised by Howard's Rogan appearance (and others), looking at them without resorting to black/white perspectives and attempting to place them within the realm of modern science, balancing that term with the dogmatic perspectives against the freewheeling perspectives so common in social media channels.
Terrance is obviously a bright man and to say he's crazy is ignorant. I appreciate his efforts. Mistakes are a huge part of science. He might be completely wrong but he's far from completely insane. I think it is awesome that Kurt invited him on and is open minded enough to try to understand his claims. I'd love to see Terrance come on and have a discussion without being attacked. Who knows, maybe somewhere in his theories there is something worth investigating.
He's definitely not wrong. Watch yourself u don't want to sound ignorant or a fool. Don't let ego get the best of you
Science is observation, theory, and experimentation. Terence howard is just making things up in his head with nobevidence. He's not performing experiments or making scientific observations.
@@magician_aleks2726how do you know
Very very huge maybe
I'm impressed that Howard is entertaining rhese concepts
Invite Terrence Howard to an interview.
He would be wasting his and your time.
@@Shayzarenot mines
@@tomohawkcloud You should rewatch the entire interview another 3 more times minimal. Lots of others had to. 🤷🫡
Invite Professor Dave to deabte Howard, watch Dave debunk Terrence on his channel
@@ShayzareI think I can explain this:
Terrence says the Arizona Cardinals are the #1 team. You then say according to their record they are 4 wins and 13 losses and one of the worst teams.
But you are looking at it wrong. They are #1 alphabetically. That's kinda what he is doing but then you realize he isn't using the NFL standings, he uses theor alphabetical order to explain why Arizona Cardnials are the #1 Hockey team instead of football. When you try to correct him by saying "wtf"... a bunch of people who know nothing about NFL or NHL say he isn't wrong you don't understand his genius.
The biggest mystery is why he is wearing the headphones over a hoodie.
The whole berilium to water thing is, He's under the assumption that if you can somehow know the exact resonant vibration of each Element and play that resonant vibration on some kind of audio or tuning fork or something I don't know. That it will have a direct effect on the element and have a natural attraction to the instrument playing the vibration.
3:35 he says same key of E, he is talking about music and harmonics, not kiloelectronvolts. So if you look at the emission spectrum they look similar to the sound spectrum. Specifically when you compare groups of elements to tones. You need someone that understands music theory and chemistry to comment properly, certainly not I.
Stephon Alexander might have some interesting comments.
I see E as yellow. And triangle I shape. In fact, I see every note as a specific color shape. // So it find it rather startling how dismissive the host and inverviewee are being! Where is the science....of poetry!
@@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole I did not like the tone either, Curt is usually better than this.
@@radical137 He needs to stop being so "curt" in his responses. (Ha. Couldn't resit that one.).
I'm so happy you responded. People often get so trigged by be the I'm made to disappear in a matter of MINUTES!
Mr. Radical, DO see my work here. You will LITERALLY be BLOW AWAY (into another dimension!).
- The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_
@@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole I recognize a fellow eccentric Platonist, I'll be the one doing the triggering if you don't mind, that is what I am used to.
You guys missed that he was seeing the chemical frequencies from a musical lens, that's why he talks about tone & keys & octaves.
Exactly correct.
Yes, they misunderstood one point he made, Howard misunderstood 90% of what he himself was saying.
There still has to be a translation between the two ideas. Sound is NOT the same as light. Terrance did not explain the interpretation or relationship whatsoever.
You people so damn ignorant.
You scientists are very kind to Terrence, for not calling him stupid.
This is the classic Dunning Kruger effect
When Graham Bell invented the telephone, he found 2 missed calls from me.
When he says keep dividing by 2 he is talking about dropping the "octave" of the absorption spectra frequency(ies) until it can be understood as a note or notes like in a key or a chord. How that is useful isn't explained in the clips discussed here, though. Electromagnetic waves in the visible light spectrum and compression waves for sound aren't the same, of course.
I think what he is saying is at a fundamental singularity level where all matter is one, that light, sound , color , and shape all came from the same beginning, they are all connected and related. So if something has a color it also has a sound , and it also has a shape of that same frequency wave. So if say hydrogen is in the light spectrum at we will just say 700hz, you can find the sound hydrogen makes by finding the corresponding frequency that matches with the light by dividing it. Which shape would be similar to putting a bunch of sand on a table , sending frequency through the table and each different frequency with make its own shape in the sand.
Word Salad....
The trick that charlatans like Terrance employ is to use vague word salads, so that people do what this guy ^^ is doing... filling in the blank spaces with what he 'thinks the guy may mean'
@@WORLD_TRADE_LOCATION_TV Nope, widely understood concepts actually
@@hellraiser7118 like cymatics?
People will complain about having to learn maths and science in school, saying "Why do I have to learn this, what is the point, when will it ever be relevant to me", and those are the same people that listen to a mentally unwell man on a podcast and become convinced that 1 x 1 = 2, 0 doesn't exist, and there is a connection between the periodic table and music theory.
Yes!!! I’m impressed by Terrence’s passion, and he comes across as genuinely intelligent, but he seems like he’s all over the place. Unconventional ideas are a great way to push our boundaries of knowledge, but it has to be based on reality. I honestly feel like Mr. Howard’s approach to reality is misguided at best….
Le sigh
Oh, I could make a workable connection between the periodic table and music theory. They're both human constructs, so the project would be more akin to the sonification of data, rather than data gathering or analysis.
It's kinda fun to relate musical intervals to other systems... colors is a common one, planetary orbits is another. It's arbitrary, but if it's done cleverly, it can help someone to understand one or the other subject in a deeper way.
mentally unwell?you should be nicer your fellow man... there is a connnection between all things. a book called "The Quadrivium" does a great job of explaining the overlap of number, geometry music and cosmology. you dont find it intersesting that the square root of 2 comes to something besides 1? why do our cells our body look similar to the way universes rotate aroud a sun?
i am one of those people complaining about people complaining
I think Terrence Howard is brilliant! Visionaries are often misunderstood - I watched the whole ~3 hour interview with JR and I’m fascinated by the things Terrence is bringing to light! 💫Challenging societal norms and constructs that have been in place for eons takes a lot of courage - Mad respect! I hope other field experts/scholars accept the invitation Terrence extended to audit/re-examine our fundamentals. Remember.. The TRUTH does NOT mind being questioned, but a LIE does not like to be challenged. Let’s ALL stay open-minded!
You know who else is very often misunderstood? People who talk nonsense, and they are far more common than visionaries.
I'm sorry, but your guest is a bit out of date on his chemistry and physics. He's obviously unaware of the SAFFIRE program at University of Ontario, that constructed a model of a star, and was able to transform hydrogen into building up to other elements such as lithium, carbon, and many others. They graciously didn't call it alchemy. The scientists and engineers followed up on a theory that electricity, plasma, is the foundation of creating heavier elements. And proved it.
What stuck out to me about the Terrence Howard interview is that not even HE believes the earth is flat.....
This gave me a good chuckle
On the other hand, not even flatearthers think that 1 x 1 = 2.
@@gerontodon good point
That's where he is wrong
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Do you think he's right that one times one equals one? (serious question)
How do you jump from the "Key of E" in terms of frequency or resonance to the atomic absoption of specific chemicals? If you're not sure what he said, perhaps turn on the subtitles.
Its a lot of gishgallop, with some word salad and a lot of bullshit mixed in.
@@nebtheweb8885😂😂😂
@@Thor27609that's wasn't funny. You're the algorithm for destroying humanity. Help out, continue in your ignorance as if you have any idea
@12:24 "Brass tax"...am I the only one that giggled? 😂
As an Engineer (who happens to be Black), I really really appreciate Terrence Howard for attempting/contributing a little bit to (re)introduce Science as a topic of discussion in the public discourse in America.
I know all too well that there is not enough of this, at a time when China is overtaking us in STEM.
The fact that in China, 40% of a class studies STEM vs 8% in America should be present in as many American minds as possible, and should be a concern.
And among that 8%, many are Asian kids, some of whom will not stay/work in America.
The public discourse/space in America (news outlets, social media) tends to be almost exclusively occupied with topics pertaining to entertainment (dominated by rap/hip-hop, sports, etc ...), or unending controversies on "race", or the regular scandal involving s...x*, drugs and money (the latests being Diddy, Trump, etc ...).
There might be, there probably are "holes" in Terrence's "theories".
Nevertheless, I cannot be more appreciative/thankful that a celebrity who could go the easy way of leveraging his fame to try to grow a music career besides acting (he played in "Hustle and Flow" after all), or to promote his brand of liquor like Lebron, Serena W. and many others, or fast-food restaurants like Shaquille O'Neal, choses to publicly express his passion for Science.
Unlike many here, I've known of that interest/passion harbored by Terrence for years.
I'm not surprised that there are a number of people on here with snide comments.
This is akin to someone pointing at the moon, and some people (not as bright as they think they are) looking-at/focusing-on his finger, then snikering/chuckling because he's got a bit of dirt under his fingernails, or that said fingernails are not perfectly manicured.
As celebrities have a disproportionate influnce on kids, and even the general public, I really wish that if anything comes out of this, it be a rekindled interest of the American public for STEM.
When you’re this intelligent, and don’t know what “Key of E” is! I’m humbled. I did chuckle at this part of the interview.
I really do hope Terrence replies to you and gets on the pod! Perfect platform for this conversation!
😂😂
When you're this dumb and believe that scientists don't know more than you because you're a self prescribed genius. Terrence's theories are incoherent, but they're giving him the benefit of the doubt out of respect. Terrence doesn't understand basic math, yet yall keep calling him genius. What does that say about you?
@@aliengreeter are you having a stroke?
Aren’t people allowed to find something funny and be human?
Have you eaten? You could be a little hangry if my comment has caused your emotions to arise negatively.
@@aliengreeter and your feel like a genius right👏👏
So true. Important for experts to appreciate how focused their expertise will be.
Terrence Howard is certainly getting a lot of attention. Exploring WHY that's happening might be interesting.
Because there are so many dumb people insisting people like Curt take him serious and talk about him. Otherwise they would just ignore him like other's with incoherent theories and math a 5th grader could disprove. Terrence is suffering from mental illness. His ideas don't make sense to you because they don't make sense. There's a reason why 1x1=1 has stood for centuries.
It's because it's easier to not follow the rules of science and make unsubstantiated claims than it is to learn actual science. Terrence goes off on something that causes people to wonder, and having no real formal training in these hard sciences, they aren't able to validate the rubbish. They draw their own conclusions from what he says, and then say he's making sense to them. Not because what he says is right, but because they can "understand" it. Everyone marvels at the mysteries of the universe, but very few can actually back up that understanding and go through the difficulties of learning it. Everyone wonders about these things, which is why they catch on, and if you don't have a framework for dealing with these sorts of questions, then you can easily accept anything. Just because something feels right to you is meaningless. That is determined by your personal experiences and feelings, which never line up with the unforgiving truth. So many times have I had a gut feeling about something to only be put to shame when I actually sit down and run the numbers.
People also want to believe there is some hidden truth that's just waiting for them to discover or be bestowed upon them by some prophet that's at odds with established paradigms. And if they don't have to validate their understanding through rigorous scientific coursework, even better!
@@morningstarsci - funny, Semmelweis said that about handwashing too.
Yes, I agree. I caught his ideas a few months ago and couldn't disprove them in my mind. I then saw him at Oxford Union, so ok, someone cares. Then JRE, and I was side-eyeing it. But, as Howard said, his programmer referred to the settings for the model. Science can falsify it or not. It won't take long. ;)
@@morningstarsci Still, I wonder what he is selling... is it hope? Magic? A link to esoteric knowledge that implies a Creator and an order to things... My academic background is Biology so I'm not one of his Followers, just curious why he has so many.
Nice! I respect the quick cut after comments got a bit negative about Terrance Howard. Curt didn't want the podcast to turn negative and only wanted to understand.. Much respect!
terrence, like everyone, totally misunderstands the 9 octaves, people need to realise walter russells work is somewhat cryptic, walter knew hydrogen was the first element and that all other elements are compounds of hydrogen, the reason why he put #1H between 3rd and 4th octaves is so it would read 314PIE, if you know egyptian cosmogony Ptah/Peter(Pineal) becomes Atum(atom), its no different to the Adam(atom) painting in the sistine chapel, infact if you look at the stele of Ptah tablet youll see walter lifted his octave diagram directly from it, the tablet shows Ma'at in place of the inert gases with Ptah>Atum centred because >MAATMOT>ION as his first and last elements, i will also point out elements in the first 3 octaves line up with the heavy elements in the standard periodic table, alberton becomes einsteinium, erneston becomes rutherfordium, jameson becomes lawrencium, alphanon (walters first inert/NOBLE gas) is NOBELium, and omeganon lines up with oganesson, if you check the quantum numbers of the heavy elements that land where the inert gases of the first 3 octaves are youll see they are 0,0 as they should be, weird considering walter drew the 9 octaves in 1926, decades before the heavy elements were discovered
he said KEY OF E! as in tone/frequency that would be on a musical scale. Don't forget he knows music and sees colors when he plays each tone. He is saying those tones are also connected or related to the elements
i think he was referring to Prima Materia when talking about "they are all the same substance", just under different frequencies
I think you play too many video games😅....myself as well for understanding 🤔 😅
He did, he means the aether is the Prima Materia
The ether, exactly. Everything is one substance-that’s what Terence is getting at.
@@rolsen1304no light itself is the the prima matria from which the expanded and contracted poles emerge (ether being the expanded). It’s the water to the waves on the ocean. It’s from Walter russells work
@@pooman2 Yeah that would jive with the Hermetic view of reality as well then. Thank you for clarifying, I need to listen to this podcast.
So glad you covered this... Joe Rogan wasnt able to question him on anything and it was really frustrating to listen to. I think a lot of people took that at face value that Terrence howard is some genius. You were on full rev with this one. Your leg was going off
I think its great that you took TH seriously and hopefully you will succeed in gettin him on the show. What might help TH is greater self awareness and gauging how he is coming across e.g. experienced speakers will recognise when they're digressing or giving a longer than necessary explanation, or read body language to know if their points aren't landing, then course correct and generally take pains to ensure their point is clear