man poor Dane Dehaan, I was so excited for him to play Green Goblin. was hoping he could have a well written character to play. also apprently the suit was extremely hot to wear and act in. to a medical issue degree.
I feel so sorry for Dane DeHaan. He had so much potential as Harry Osborn/Green Goblin (as seen not just in TASM2, but specifically also in the deleted scenes of it), only to get his character wasted by Sony. I'm never forgiving Sony for wasting an important character like that.
I definitely think a comic accurate costume would work. Maybe change one or two things to make him scarier and perhaps take some inspiration from things like his Marvel Knights design. It would be awesome.
Willam Defoe’s Goblin was iconic but the inspiration was just as good. Neil Ross’s Goblin is the best adaptation ever to grace the screen. Spectacular Spider-Man’s was close. Neil’s Goblin and the Cartoon he was in even has a multitude of scenes that Rami used in his movies. Goblin talking to Norman via reflection. Taking revenge on board members. Otto building a “reactor” of sorts to produce energy instead of volatile chemicals (that end up fusing the arms to him) in the original comics. Hell most of Venom’s scenes too. Pete hanging upside down in the black suit. The list goes on. Neil was the best vocal Goblin. But Defoe will be the best live-action Goblin.
TASM 2's Green Goblin looks more like a sick K-pop star, who threw a bunch of bad makeup randomly while mad drunk, than anything remotely resembling the Green Goblin.
Wilam Defoe is probably the best Edit: Ok, I’m sorry to anyone I made mad by my choice of words. I said probably because there’s a lot of goblins and I didn’t want to hurt anyone’s opinions
Willem Defoe's performance was amazing but it wasn't exactly the perfect adaptation. Norman Osborn in the comics is a horrible person even before taking the G serum just not a murderous psychopath.
I actually like the way he looks. I mean the execution is not the best but as an idea it's great. I love this clunky unfinished armor, the gliders design and a deformed face. I also like his laugh and presence in general. All they needed to do is gave him some purple hoodie, make his face actually look like goblin instead of some crackhead, and make his bombs look like pumpkins. I do agree thought that from the story perspective this goblin sucks.
From a visual standpoint, I’d love to be able to just grab one of those goblin extras from LotR and shove them onto that glider. Looking at all the makeup and practical effects used to bring monsters to life in cinema, you can’t help but be completely underwhelmed with what they went with for one of Spidey’s most iconic villains.
My favorite Green Goblin design is actually the one from Into the Spider-Verse and he’s not really in the movie that much but the design made such a strong impression on me. I do love the way Willem Dafoe was incorporated into NWH but I would love to see how the MCU would craft a Goblin villain native to that universe. I’d be down with either a Harry Osborn Green Goblin because we deserve an actually good version of that villain or use Hobgoblin since he’s never been in any of the movies before. My personal pick would be Roderick Kingsley played by Giancarlo Esposito but I think many other actors could work too.
12:59 I personnaly LOVED Electro's arc in TASM 2, and I'll try to defend it : First of all I know at the beginning of the movie Max Dillon is just a walking cliché : people don't pay attention to him, his lack of charisma prevent him from standing on his own and he has no friends. I won't argue with that. But the way they delt with his transformation into Electro kinda (KINDA, don't jump me pls) reminds me of the story of Kevin Kale in the comics, who is one of the starbrand, with a quote that's now stuck in my head : "Now imagine that kind of power in the hands of someone who has spent his entire life being ignored" Once he gains his new powers, he doesn't just becomes instantly evil or smth, like Green Goblin, the Lizard etc... that poor guy is just lost, overwhelmed by the events. Seriously the whole Times Square sequence is phenomenal in showing that : "No, please ! It's not my fault." while the police is hooting at him. That guys was the victim here. I actually wanted Spidey to succeed in bringing him somewhere else so they could chat together lmao. From one day to another he went from a looser who spent his life being toyed with by people, to a living god finally able to fight back. Yup, exactly like a certain someone, and I find this parallel awesome ! Now If you add the fact that he clearly has psychological issues due to his social deprivation (in a deleted scene he bascically fantasizes himself yelling at his mother, like he did at Oscorp with his collegue), well the story of the low nerd disappointed in his hero becomes very compelling imo And the most impressive thing (and one of the best thing about TASM 2 imo) is the fact they managed to tell this whole arc with Electro's OST, with the way it starts off slowly, the voices etc.. And the shot of him starting levitating in Times Square once he absorbed all the elctricity MY GOD that shot was *RAW* as hell My 12 yo me was hyped af In conclusion : Jamie Foxx Electro is awesome in my opinion Also, Spidey trying to de-escalate the situation in order to help the vilain is something I had never seen in other movies back then (which is why Andrew is the best).
To be fair, him looking visually sick and like he needs help is kind of the point. This Goblin is meant to be more heartbreaking and sad rather than being scary
Well thing is that it would look goofy in live action especially since the mask wouldn’t really emote like in the animated series or the comics. Even if it did it’d look weird I think the mask is a good replacement
14:10 I completely agree Spectacular Green Goblin only "sin" imo is the fact that he's not his own entity. Bascically Norman has total control when he's wearing the mask, but apart from that, man is he fantastic ! The way him and Spidey send quips at each other while fighting is just hilarious ! Definitely my favorite adaptation of the character
@@SonnySantana2099 5:46 Well one could argue that it's scenes like the dinner party in Spider-Man TAS that makes Norman such a good antagonist Now if you ask me it doesn't bother me neither.
@@SonnySantana2099yeah especially since in the series Norman is total jerk. It’s not like in 90s Spider-Man where Norman is actually an ok guy when he’s not taken over by the goblin. Now he acts really differently when he is the goblin but that’s obviously just him acting and putting on the goblin persona
I like TASM 2 Goblin’s body language. He moves just like Harry in his last issues in the comics. I like his deranged personality, he wasn’t as cartoony as in 2002. That said, yes he needs a mask. I didn’t like that his armor blatantly has OsCorp written on the chest. NWH has the best live action Goblin.
The best part about the depiction of Harry's addiction in the comics was that it was an actual PSA requested by the Health Department itself in defiance of the Comic Codes of the time and it was done so well.
Tasm2 goblin wasn’t necessarily bad yeah his design sucked but he just didn’t have any time to shine if he had more screen time or an actual movie dedicated to him he could be a good goblin and even for the time he was in the movie as the goblin he triggered some sense of fear as he was a threat and main cause of Gwen’s death. If you say you weren’t scared of he was going to do to her you’re lying ngl. If you gave William the same amount of screen time as the goblin and the events were the same people would feel the same way about his goblin as they do with dane dehaan goblin
You would think that the people who make the superhero movies and say they know the characters. Would not change change iconic costumes that much. Yet they do, possibly for toy related merchandise for the movie.
I'm pretty sure into the spider verses goblin was like ultimate, where he was like a monster. Granted he wasn't really a important character, just kinda there
Neil Ross from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon is my favorite Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. I view Neil Ross as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin the same way I view Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor and Mark Hamill as The Joker. As much as I love Willem Dafoe and I'd love to see Jason Isaacs as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. He's the only actor that would honestly top Willem Dafoe.
Also can you make a video on 2007 venom and why he faild cuz I have reaseons 1 He barley speaks 2 Lack of screen time 3 Rushed storyline 4 Bad voice and doesn't speak symbiote languge 5 Forced death
In TASM I always had that problem: their friendship didn't nade any sense. Is like "hello MY friend" but like when did you guys meet? Why are you friends? Why you don't hang out with others rich kids.
Yeah, their friendship wasn't developed. It just sort of came out of nowhere. So, when Harry transformed into The Goblin and fought with Peter, I didn't really feel anything. The Raimi trilogy did it right by building up to it. We spent two whole movies with Harry and Peter being friends, knowing the inevitable was eventually going to happen. When it did in Spider-Man 3, it was tragic. You felt sad seeing two best friends fighting each other. Especially with Peter being under the influence of the black suit in their second confrontation. Both of them hated one another at that point and were both trying to kill each other.
William Defoe actually looks like the 60's comic book character. If he's alive he should always play that character even if they have to deage him. That's the guy
@@jwappel3068 • Title: "GOBLIN" • It would be a sci-fi horror flick. • The Green Goblin costume originated in the olden times by an evil horse-riding green-knight who was killed by vikings during his war against Thor. A few millenniums later, Norman Osbourne bought the armor at an auction and kept it in his personal museum of other armors (similar to Bruce Wayne's collection from BATMAN '89). • Norman wears it later on, and people though the legendary Goblin-Knight has returned, which he has. He lives inside Norman through a green-potion he laced with the Oscorp-serum. • I based the entire Goblin costume was based heavily off of the Humberto Ramos version of the villain, because I wanted him to wear something to protect him from getting shot and stabbed easily. Under the armor is his usual purple leotard for comic-book accuracy. • His "glider" is changed into the unused and forgotten "turbo broom" from the earlier 60s comics, it has a built-in M134 mini-gun in the front, a blow-torch in the back and a long blade at the bottom. • The main nemesis of the story is the 10 Maggia bosses, but Norman kills Silvermane, Count Nefaria and Top Man at the start of his Goblin career leaving only 7 bosses of the crime mob to seek revenge. • I plan for it to be a franchise of sequels. One trilogy-saga centered on Norman as the Goblin, a second trilogy-saga centered on Harry as the Goblin, and a third centered on Hobgoblin (who could be anybody).
@KEN-1991 Nice! My version would be titled the same, but focus on Phil Urich,the one good Green goblin. Hobgoblin and the Goblin nation would be the antagonists.
The one thing you cannot do that many adaptations have done is make him a secondary or side villain. Goblin is the most personal villain and archenemy of Spiderman. He HAS to be the main antagonist if he's in a movie or story arc. It doesnt work like joker since he can be a looming presence or thorn in batmans side due to not knowing who he is. But goblin always figures it out and targets family and friends and has an unbearable hatred for spiderman. A villain written like that should always be front and center. When goblin strikes its not to pull a prank or annoy peter. Its to drive a wound so deep into peter that he never forgets
Eh i think if tasm2 green goblin was his own thing people would've loved him, his proto military suit and his glider look so cool, the concept of a decaying body Trapped/infused (you can see parts of the armor cling deep into his hand) into an exo suit is so good, also loved the bomb dispenser he got on his arm...but yeah he isn't that great of a green goblin adaptation. which makes sense since norman was gonna be the real green goblin in tasm3.
I hope Sony soon realese the amazing Spider-Man 3 so harry can have some more screen time then being totally sick in prison and looking himself in the mirror every day -Zach PS5
I feel really bad for the cast of this movie, specially Dane Dehaan. He's a really good actor, specially as a villain, but unfortunately he got nothing to be able to show it. They could've worked him as a surprise villain like they intended him to be, making him slowly turn into Goblin throughout the story where he starts to use the goblin serum on himself after Spider-Man declined giving the blood to save his dying father, which would make Norman's death much more impactful and meaningful. After Electro is defeated, Spider-Man is all busted and tired, the perfect time for Goblin to strike. Goblin says he wants the blood to save Norman in time, so Spider-Man fights back, where neither of them knows they're respectively Peter and Harry until a pumpkin bomb exposes both of them to each other. Instead of Harry going after Gwen, who was conveniently there just for that, she accidentally falls down during the fight, so she ends up dying at the same time as Harry's father, prompting him to leave claiming they're even now. Obviously it wouldn't be over, so the 3rd movie would be the big conclusion to this whole drama. If 'TASM3' ever comes to happen, it should be no surprise Harry should be the main villain, plotting a big Sinister Six plan to finally get his blood and cure himself.
Sony dosent know how to make Spiderman now, they even changed the iconic quote to "When you take responsibility, you gain powerful abilities", give it up to Marvel now.
I thought dan dahaan’s goblin wasn’t terrible. It just needed more development and I thought it was cool that he actually would turn and resemble a goblin and it would only get worse over time
Yup. Insomniac clearly took inspiration from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for their version of Harry. The obvious difference being that Harry becomes Venom in Spider-Man 2 instead of the Green Goblin, which also happened in the Ultimate Spider animated series. Harry in Insomniac's SM2 is basically TASM 2 meets Ultimate Spider-Man.
I remember during the first time I watched TASM 2 back in 2014 both my mom and older sister were saying stuff like "Why the fuck dose the Green Globin look like a meth head"
Here’s the thing: I think that The Amazing Spider-Man 2’s Green Goblin could’ve had an awesome design, it’s is only the face. I understand that we should see how sick he is (and that’s kinda why I disagree on the “he looks ill, and that’s not good’ part of the video because we should see what happening to him) but it completely kills the design. I think that if they gave him a face mask similar to Harry’s goblin mask in Sam Reimi’s Spider-Man 3 that unfolds to show how awful he is, this design would work
2002 Suit of Goblin is trash except the mask. I like the 2014 goblin and his suit. It looks better and fits to the character. The 2002 Goblin works only with his mask and as norman but the rest of the suit is trash
I prefer Harry Osbourne from TASM2 over the Harry from the original Spider-Man trilogy. I mean seriously! Do they expect us to believe both James Franco and Willem Dafoe are identically similar and equally scary as father and son?! Franco is no Goblin at all, he literally had to dye his hair auburn just to be Harry, nothing else.
If Green Goblin is written correctly, he can NEVER be the secondary villain. He does not stand for playing second fiddle. If he’s in the movie, he takes it over. Even Sony and Marvel themselves had the good sense to make him the main villain in No Way Home, which had five freaking villains that had all been the main threats in their previous movies.
Dear Boy , Green Gobin was "Dead" for a looonnnggg time going Back to the early 70s . Because he's the villain that gives Spidey all can handle & fans 💙 him 4 that. U should do some homework before going on CZcams Land talking about Green Gobin's being around TOO LONG!!
Honestly I disagree, the Dane Dehaan actually did to good of a green goblin, his face was scary and the fact that he killed his best friend's girlfriend makes him scarrier I understand his anger his friend wouldn't give him his blood to cure his genetic disease but Peter was just worried that it would do worse things
Just throw the TASM 2 Goblin in dumpster and set it on fire. Shoot at it or something. Just make sure that he doesn't come back from whatever he goes through. Make sure he also goes to the bottomless pits of hell. Plus Spider-Man 3 (2007 clearly) goblin should've had Harry use the same suit as Norman instead of the 'new goblin' that they did. It could really mess with Peter since he could think that Norman is still alive when it's really Harry.
There is 3 Goblin mask and one of them has a gold one where it looks like Green Goblin's mask but gold. I think that's Hobgoblin. But Harry could have been Hobgoblin too since he was Hobgoblin in the comics too
Wait doesn’t Harry be the goblin in spider man 3? I mean sure he’s not like the green goblin in that movie and more of a hero, but at the beginning and middle of the movie it legitimately shows Spider-Man fighting harry for a good 10 minutes.
I think his worst was Spiderverse he doesn't speak looks teirrable and tries to hard to be scary plus I HATE the idea of Norman working for somebody else TASM 2 Goblin is fine like the look theme and fight but like 2007 Venom didn't get enough screen time
What about the OG live action Harry Goblin in Spider-Man 3? TASM 2 wasn't the only live action Harry Goblin! I think Spider-Man 3 had the better Harry Goblin than TASM 2 even with how comic inaccurate it was lol
Damnit Dane I thought he was going to be amazing but sadly shit was cringey but I think it had a lot to do with how he was written he should have been the hobgoblin
@@MidnightDubstepDane Dehan's Green Goblin > Spider Man Lotus Green Goblin. There is another one worse then Dane Dehan's Green Goblin and that's Into the Spider-Verse Green Goblin. His design is cool but he has no personality
@@sebastianbernardez472 Because, once again, he is not the Green Goblin in Spider-Man 3. This video is talking about how NOT to adapt Green Goblin. Harry became his own Goblin character in Spider-Man 3. Harry in TASM 2 was that universe's version of Green Goblin. Understand?
I honestly need Norman in the mcu but have it be a suspenseful mystery the whole movie because Peter knows that Norman is the green goblin but in another universe, so it’s him having his guard up waiting for him to reveal himself. Maybe have a goblin but using gear supplied by Norman and he does like a “the test was successful now it’s my turn” idk
Hey I like the 60’s Spider-Man cartoon green goblin but as for the Amazing Spider-Man 2 version was very force as I was under the impression that the first movie felt more built towards Norman than Harry as with this mysterious Gentleman and also it feels like Peter doesn’t know the Osborns as he did stole a man’s identity to sneak into Oscorp so I don’t know was it the studio that made Marc Webb bring Harry or was it that movie Chronicle and that he wanted to 💩 on Peter’s life because of some blood that may not work because I think that Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man should be anti capitalist like those kind of people who think all rich people are crooked and that they exploit people so Peter should say no I’m not giving you my blood because this whole disease thing is a scam and that you’re an exploiting Tyrant.
Every single Spider-Man show, all three live action adaptations, being set up as the final villan in Insomniac games, and even in the first Spiderverse movie. He has appeared in every single Spidey adaptation bro
@@file_boi020 because outside of the next insomniac game he’s never been the main villain of a major Spider-Man game. He’s not in the psx game, he’s basically nonexistent in Ultimate Spider-Man, he’s not in Web Of Shadows or Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time (no I don’t count Noir Goblin) and isn’t gonna be in the insomniac games until five years from now. It’s the inverse issue of Batman games over reliance on Joker
@@CursedShinobiClownI have never played these spidey games you mentioned and didnt know he was absent in them. Strange considering he is the arch nemesis, he could even appear as a boss or sth. So yeah. Point taken. He was kinda absent from games for a while now and we'll have to wait a long time for Spider man 3.
What’s your opinion on “The New Goblin” from Spider-Man 3? I thought he was terribly designed on that one too he looks too much like the Spider-Man villain The Rocket Racer.
man poor Dane Dehaan, I was so excited for him to play Green Goblin. was hoping he could have a well written character to play. also apprently the suit was extremely hot to wear and act in. to a medical issue degree.
Really that is trash. Especially cause he’s a really solid actor he just got bad writing smh
I wonder if he could have a cameo in a Spider-Verse Movie
@@ColdTRex that would be great! I want his version of Goblin to come back so bad! He deserves a 2nd chance too
I feel so sorry for Dane DeHaan. He had so much potential as Harry Osborn/Green Goblin (as seen not just in TASM2, but specifically also in the deleted scenes of it), only to get his character wasted by Sony.
I'm never forgiving Sony for wasting an important character like that.
i hope one day we see a more comic accurate goblin suit in live action. something akin patrick browns' art
A purely comic-booky movie!
@@fynnthefox9078 Honestly a live action Spider-man TV series with comic book accurate outfits would be fucking cool
You might like the original Raimi design then
I definitely think a comic accurate costume would work. Maybe change one or two things to make him scarier and perhaps take some inspiration from things like his Marvel Knights design.
It would be awesome.
@@JurassicReptile Yeah I agree
Willam Defoe’s Goblin was iconic but the inspiration was just as good. Neil Ross’s Goblin is the best adaptation ever to grace the screen. Spectacular Spider-Man’s was close.
Neil’s Goblin and the Cartoon he was in even has a multitude of scenes that Rami used in his movies. Goblin talking to Norman via reflection. Taking revenge on board members. Otto building a “reactor” of sorts to produce energy instead of volatile chemicals (that end up fusing the arms to him) in the original comics.
Hell most of Venom’s scenes too. Pete hanging upside down in the black suit. The list goes on. Neil was the best vocal Goblin. But Defoe will be the best live-action Goblin.
oh yeah im about to goblin
TASM 2's Green Goblin looks more like a sick K-pop star, who threw a bunch of bad makeup randomly while mad drunk, than anything remotely resembling the Green Goblin.
TASM2 Goblin looks like a live action version of Beavis.
Wilam Defoe is probably the best
Edit: Ok, I’m sorry to anyone I made mad by my choice of words. I said probably because there’s a lot of goblins and I didn’t want to hurt anyone’s opinions
Not probably, *HE IS*
Probably?!?!??
Willem Defoe's performance was amazing but it wasn't exactly the perfect adaptation. Norman Osborn in the comics is a horrible person even before taking the G serum just not a murderous psychopath.
@@purpledragons1146who cares if his portrayal is not one to one with the comics. He’s still good
@@purpledragons1146 He is *Better* then the comics
I actually like the way he looks. I mean the execution is not the best but as an idea it's great. I love this clunky unfinished armor, the gliders design and a deformed face. I also like his laugh and presence in general. All they needed to do is gave him some purple hoodie, make his face actually look like goblin instead of some crackhead, and make his bombs look like pumpkins. I do agree thought that from the story perspective this goblin sucks.
From a visual standpoint, I’d love to be able to just grab one of those goblin extras from LotR and shove them onto that glider. Looking at all the makeup and practical effects used to bring monsters to life in cinema, you can’t help but be completely underwhelmed with what they went with for one of Spidey’s most iconic villains.
You should do a pitch for Beyond the Spiderverse
Agreed.
My favorite Green Goblin design is actually the one from Into the Spider-Verse and he’s not really in the movie that much but the design made such a strong impression on me. I do love the way Willem Dafoe was incorporated into NWH but I would love to see how the MCU would craft a Goblin villain native to that universe. I’d be down with either a Harry Osborn Green Goblin because we deserve an actually good version of that villain or use Hobgoblin since he’s never been in any of the movies before. My personal pick would be Roderick Kingsley played by Giancarlo Esposito but I think many other actors could work too.
Watch all of “Spidey and his Amazing Friends” and do a big video on the lore
That show is dogshit
12:59 I personnaly LOVED Electro's arc in TASM 2, and I'll try to defend it :
First of all I know at the beginning of the movie Max Dillon is just a walking cliché : people don't pay attention to him, his lack of charisma prevent him from standing on his own and he has no friends.
I won't argue with that.
But the way they delt with his transformation into Electro kinda (KINDA, don't jump me pls) reminds me of the story of Kevin Kale in the comics, who is one of the starbrand, with a quote that's now stuck in my head :
"Now imagine that kind of power in the hands of someone who has spent his entire life being ignored"
Once he gains his new powers, he doesn't just becomes instantly evil or smth, like Green Goblin, the Lizard etc... that poor guy is just lost, overwhelmed by the events.
Seriously the whole Times Square sequence is phenomenal in showing that : "No, please ! It's not my fault." while the police is hooting at him. That guys was the victim here.
I actually wanted Spidey to succeed in bringing him somewhere else so they could chat together lmao.
From one day to another he went from a looser who spent his life being toyed with by people, to a living god finally able to fight back. Yup, exactly like a certain someone, and I find this parallel awesome !
Now If you add the fact that he clearly has psychological issues due to his social deprivation (in a deleted scene he bascically fantasizes himself yelling at his mother, like he did at Oscorp with his collegue), well the story of the low nerd disappointed in his hero becomes very compelling imo
And the most impressive thing (and one of the best thing about TASM 2 imo) is the fact they managed to tell this whole arc with Electro's OST, with the way it starts off slowly, the voices etc..
And the shot of him starting levitating in Times Square once he absorbed all the elctricity MY GOD that shot was *RAW* as hell
My 12 yo me was hyped af
In conclusion : Jamie Foxx Electro is awesome in my opinion
Also, Spidey trying to de-escalate the situation in order to help the vilain is something I had never seen in other movies back then (which is why Andrew is the best).
Ur right 100%
To be fair, him looking visually sick and like he needs help is kind of the point. This Goblin is meant to be more heartbreaking and sad rather than being scary
Its weird how we have gotten 3 Green Goblins in film, yet none of theme feature his iconic rubber mask. 2 of them have no masks
Only Dehan looks like the Goblin Mask
Well thing is that it would look goofy in live action especially since the mask wouldn’t really emote like in the animated series or the comics. Even if it did it’d look weird I think the mask is a good replacement
14:10 I completely agree
Spectacular Green Goblin only "sin" imo is the fact that he's not his own entity. Bascically Norman has total control when he's wearing the mask, but apart from that, man is he fantastic !
The way him and Spidey send quips at each other while fighting is just hilarious ! Definitely my favorite adaptation of the character
Which is fine making them separate entities doesn’t make it bad whatsoever lmao
@@SonnySantana2099 5:46 Well one could argue that it's scenes like the dinner party in Spider-Man TAS that makes Norman such a good antagonist
Now if you ask me it doesn't bother me neither.
@@SonnySantana2099yeah especially since in the series Norman is total jerk. It’s not like in 90s Spider-Man where Norman is actually an ok guy when he’s not taken over by the goblin. Now he acts really differently when he is the goblin but that’s obviously just him acting and putting on the goblin persona
Green goblin wears a mask in the comics? I always thought it was just his face.
I know right!!
I like TASM 2 Goblin’s body language. He moves just like Harry in his last issues in the comics. I like his deranged personality, he wasn’t as cartoony as in 2002. That said, yes he needs a mask. I didn’t like that his armor blatantly has OsCorp written on the chest.
NWH has the best live action Goblin.
08:31 You forgot that we already got a Harry Osborn Green Goblin in Spider-Man 3 😅
I thought about that too
The best part about the depiction of Harry's addiction in the comics was that it was an actual PSA requested by the Health Department itself in defiance of the Comic Codes of the time and it was done so well.
Tasm2 goblin wasn’t necessarily bad yeah his design sucked but he just didn’t have any time to shine if he had more screen time or an actual movie dedicated to him he could be a good goblin and even for the time he was in the movie as the goblin he triggered some sense of fear as he was a threat and main cause of Gwen’s death. If you say you weren’t scared of he was going to do to her you’re lying ngl. If you gave William the same amount of screen time as the goblin and the events were the same people would feel the same way about his goblin as they do with dane dehaan goblin
This isn’t the green goblin this is our first adaptation of vermin
Amazing Spiderman 2: Lets do a New Twist on the Green Goblin!
No Way Home: Why Mess with Perfection
The crazy thing is, this video is the only reason I even know that version of Green Goblin even exists. Never seen him before at all
You would think that the people who make the superhero movies and say they know the characters.
Would not change change iconic costumes that much. Yet they do, possibly for toy related merchandise for the movie.
it's goblin time
If I rewatch the scene where Gwen dies I do get choked up
I'm pretty sure into the spider verses goblin was like ultimate, where he was like a monster. Granted he wasn't really a important character, just kinda there
Neil Ross from the 90s Spider-Man cartoon is my favorite Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. I view Neil Ross as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin the same way I view Clancy Brown as Lex Luthor and Mark Hamill as The Joker.
As much as I love Willem Dafoe and I'd love to see Jason Isaacs as Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. He's the only actor that would honestly top Willem Dafoe.
TASM 2 Green Goblin looks like cyborg Beavis after getting burned in radioactive sewage 🤣
William The Foe
Spectacular Spider-Man,William Defoe are the best adaptations in my opinion
bro u are amazing, when i see a new video, i click it immediatly cuz u are so amazing to watch, keep it up bro
Also can you make a video on 2007 venom and why he faild cuz I have reaseons
1 He barley speaks
2 Lack of screen time
3 Rushed storyline
4 Bad voice and doesn't speak symbiote languge
5 Forced death
With X-men 97 coming out we need Spiderman animated series back with a conclusion to mary Jane
In TASM I always had that problem: their friendship didn't nade any sense. Is like "hello MY friend" but like when did you guys meet? Why are you friends? Why you don't hang out with others rich kids.
Yeah, their friendship wasn't developed. It just sort of came out of nowhere. So, when Harry transformed into The Goblin and fought with Peter, I didn't really feel anything.
The Raimi trilogy did it right by building up to it. We spent two whole movies with Harry and Peter being friends, knowing the inevitable was eventually going to happen. When it did in Spider-Man 3, it was tragic. You felt sad seeing two best friends fighting each other. Especially with Peter being under the influence of the black suit in their second confrontation. Both of them hated one another at that point and were both trying to kill each other.
Harry should have met Peter and became friends at Empire State University like in the comics. It would have been way more natural.
William Defoe actually looks like the 60's comic book character. If he's alive he should always play that character even if they have to deage him. That's the guy
I would love a Green goblin solo film
I wish I would make it if I had the budget.
All I have is a concept.
@KEN-1991 what is the concept?
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• Title: "GOBLIN"
• It would be a sci-fi horror flick.
• The Green Goblin costume originated in the olden times by an evil horse-riding green-knight who was killed by vikings during his war against Thor. A few millenniums later, Norman Osbourne bought the armor at an auction and kept it in his personal museum of other armors (similar to Bruce Wayne's collection from BATMAN '89).
• Norman wears it later on, and people though the legendary Goblin-Knight has returned, which he has. He lives inside Norman through a green-potion he laced with the Oscorp-serum.
• I based the entire Goblin costume was based heavily off of the Humberto Ramos version of the villain, because I wanted him to wear something to protect him from getting shot and stabbed easily. Under the armor is his usual purple leotard for comic-book accuracy.
• His "glider" is changed into the unused and forgotten "turbo broom" from the earlier 60s comics, it has a built-in M134 mini-gun in the front, a blow-torch in the back and a long blade at the bottom.
• The main nemesis of the story is the 10 Maggia bosses, but Norman kills Silvermane, Count Nefaria and Top Man at the start of his Goblin career leaving only 7 bosses of the crime mob to seek revenge.
• I plan for it to be a franchise of sequels. One trilogy-saga centered on Norman as the Goblin, a second trilogy-saga centered on Harry as the Goblin, and a third centered on Hobgoblin (who could be anybody).
@KEN-1991 Nice! My version would be titled the same, but focus on Phil Urich,the one good Green goblin. Hobgoblin and the Goblin nation would be the antagonists.
HARRY IS NOT VENOM!!
The one thing you cannot do that many adaptations have done is make him a secondary or side villain. Goblin is the most personal villain and archenemy of Spiderman. He HAS to be the main antagonist if he's in a movie or story arc. It doesnt work like joker since he can be a looming presence or thorn in batmans side due to not knowing who he is. But goblin always figures it out and targets family and friends and has an unbearable hatred for spiderman. A villain written like that should always be front and center. When goblin strikes its not to pull a prank or annoy peter. Its to drive a wound so deep into peter that he never forgets
Willem.
THANK YOU!
Anyone else wishing that the spidey head in the background hit the corner of the screen?
What about james franko green goblin from spider man 3? Allthough he's 'new goblin' , i think raimi cooked with him
Eh i think if tasm2 green goblin was his own thing people would've loved him, his proto military suit and his glider look so cool, the concept of a decaying body Trapped/infused (you can see parts of the armor cling deep into his hand) into an exo suit is so good, also loved the bomb dispenser he got on his arm...but yeah he isn't that great of a green goblin adaptation. which makes sense since norman was gonna be the real green goblin in tasm3.
Bro doesn't count the new goblin in Spider-Man 3
I hope Sony soon realese the amazing Spider-Man 3 so harry can have some more screen time then being totally sick in prison and looking himself in the mirror every day
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I like the cyborg looking suit design,but he looks a little…funky
I feel really bad for the cast of this movie, specially Dane Dehaan. He's a really good actor, specially as a villain, but unfortunately he got nothing to be able to show it.
They could've worked him as a surprise villain like they intended him to be, making him slowly turn into Goblin throughout the story where he starts to use the goblin serum on himself after Spider-Man declined giving the blood to save his dying father, which would make Norman's death much more impactful and meaningful.
After Electro is defeated, Spider-Man is all busted and tired, the perfect time for Goblin to strike. Goblin says he wants the blood to save Norman in time, so Spider-Man fights back, where neither of them knows they're respectively Peter and Harry until a pumpkin bomb exposes both of them to each other.
Instead of Harry going after Gwen, who was conveniently there just for that, she accidentally falls down during the fight, so she ends up dying at the same time as Harry's father, prompting him to leave claiming they're even now. Obviously it wouldn't be over, so the 3rd movie would be the big conclusion to this whole drama.
If 'TASM3' ever comes to happen, it should be no surprise Harry should be the main villain, plotting a big Sinister Six plan to finally get his blood and cure himself.
Ultimate comics spider-man Goblin dogs any other version 🗿
back to formula
Hey who knows maybe they're about to do something in sequels but that never happened for obvious reasons
I guess the New Goblin from Spider-Man 3 does not even count as a Green Goblin to Spider Punk.
Sony dosent know how to make Spiderman now, they even changed the iconic quote to "When you take responsibility, you gain powerful abilities", give it up to Marvel now.
I thought dan dahaan’s goblin wasn’t terrible. It just needed more development and I thought it was cool that he actually would turn and resemble a goblin and it would only get worse over time
I just realized marvels Spider-Man 2 harry is this harry😭
Yup. Insomniac clearly took inspiration from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for their version of Harry. The obvious difference being that Harry becomes Venom in Spider-Man 2 instead of the Green Goblin, which also happened in the Ultimate Spider animated series. Harry in Insomniac's SM2 is basically TASM 2 meets Ultimate Spider-Man.
Dude looks like he has a severe skin rash
I remember during the first time I watched TASM 2 back in 2014 both my mom and older sister were saying stuff like "Why the fuck dose the Green Globin look like a meth head"
The green goblin from dafoe is great gut i think he was incredible as The Riblin
Thoughts on ranking all iterations of the classic spidey suit for a video?
Dunk saying something bad about TASM. Did you take your pills today?
Here’s the thing: I think that The Amazing Spider-Man 2’s Green Goblin could’ve had an awesome design, it’s is only the face. I understand that we should see how sick he is (and that’s kinda why I disagree on the “he looks ill, and that’s not good’ part of the video because we should see what happening to him) but it completely kills the design. I think that if they gave him a face mask similar to Harry’s goblin mask in Sam Reimi’s Spider-Man 3 that unfolds to show how awful he is, this design would work
bro said there’s only been 1 live action harry osborne as green goblin as if the 3rd sam raimi spiderman didn’t exist😭
That’s the New Goblin not the Green Goblin
@@spidermania oh damn the lore runs deep✍️✍️
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8:27 I think you forgot something
2002 Suit of Goblin is trash except the mask.
I like the 2014 goblin and his suit. It looks better and fits to the character. The 2002 Goblin works only with his mask and as norman but the rest of the suit is trash
if 2014 goblin got a mask, yeah he would have cool design
Mark Webb fanboy alert!
We need willam dofoe as the joker one day, his performance would rival the late Heath Ledger rip
TASM2 goblin scared me into brushing my teeth 14 times a day bro😅
His teeth are meant to look like that. In a deleted scene Harry grows fangs and breaks his teeth from the bite force.
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well did willem dafoe have the waves.?
I like his glider
Agreed.
I prefer Harry Osbourne from TASM2 over the Harry from the original Spider-Man trilogy.
I mean seriously!
Do they expect us to believe both James Franco and Willem Dafoe are identically similar and equally scary as father and son?!
Franco is no Goblin at all, he literally had to dye his hair auburn just to be Harry, nothing else.
The Green Goblin from the Atari 2600 game was more intimidating than this version of the character, and all he did was fly back and fourth.
If Green Goblin is written correctly, he can NEVER be the secondary villain. He does not stand for playing second fiddle. If he’s in the movie, he takes it over. Even Sony and Marvel themselves had the good sense to make him the main villain in No Way Home, which had five freaking villains that had all been the main threats in their previous movies.
Dear Boy , Green Gobin was "Dead" for a looonnnggg time going Back to the early 70s . Because he's the villain that gives Spidey all can handle & fans 💙 him 4 that. U should do some homework before going on CZcams Land talking about Green Gobin's being around TOO LONG!!
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dane dehaan is the best green goblin i’m dying on this hill
Honestly I disagree, the Dane Dehaan actually did to good of a green goblin, his face was scary and the fact that he killed his best friend's girlfriend makes him scarrier I understand his anger his friend wouldn't give him his blood to cure his genetic disease but Peter was just worried that it would do worse things
Just throw the TASM 2 Goblin in dumpster and set it on fire. Shoot at it or something. Just make sure that he doesn't come back from whatever he goes through. Make sure he also goes to the bottomless pits of hell. Plus Spider-Man 3 (2007 clearly) goblin should've had Harry use the same suit as Norman instead of the 'new goblin' that they did. It could really mess with Peter since he could think that Norman is still alive when it's really Harry.
There is 3 Goblin mask and one of them has a gold one where it looks like Green Goblin's mask but gold. I think that's Hobgoblin. But Harry could have been Hobgoblin too since he was Hobgoblin in the comics too
@@Shahriyararin63I’m not sure if he did in the comics but I do really love to see that in spider-man 3
@@protag64toons2.0 in the Ultimate Spider Man comic, he was Hobgoblin. But yeah I agree Sam Raimi should have made him Hobgoblin instead of New Goblin
You watch your mouth Electro isn’t lame
Wait doesn’t Harry be the goblin in spider man 3? I mean sure he’s not like the green goblin in that movie and more of a hero, but at the beginning and middle of the movie it legitimately shows Spider-Man fighting harry for a good 10 minutes.
Yes, but he isn't the Green Goblin in Spider-Man 3. He became his own version called "The New Goblin" which was original and unique to that movie.
Aye don’t diss 2017 spiderman animated series it’s cool and the goblin is op ❤😂
I think his worst was Spiderverse he doesn't speak looks teirrable and tries to hard to be scary plus I HATE the idea of Norman working for somebody else
TASM 2 Goblin is fine like the look theme and fight but like 2007 Venom didn't get enough screen time
New goblin anyone?
Like Venom, he was terrible.
His plot made no sense.
Even Jame Franco’s New Goblin from Spider-Man 3 is better than TASM2 Green Goblin😂
What about the OG live action Harry Goblin in Spider-Man 3? TASM 2 wasn't the only live action Harry Goblin! I think Spider-Man 3 had the better Harry Goblin than TASM 2 even with how comic inaccurate it was lol
Harry wasn't the Green Goblin in Spider-Man 3. He became his own version called "The New Goblin" which was original and unique to that movie.
Damnit Dane I thought he was going to be amazing but sadly shit was cringey but I think it had a lot to do with how he was written he should have been the hobgoblin
Finally a video where someone talks about how bad this version was
You're also missing Spiderman Lotus green goblin he is on the same level of Dane Dehans bad
we dont count fan made movies, they're not made by big studios
@@file_boi020 I know I just hate Spiderman Lotus
@@MidnightDubstepDane Dehan's Green Goblin > Spider Man Lotus Green Goblin. There is another one worse then Dane Dehan's Green Goblin and that's Into the Spider-Verse Green Goblin. His design is cool but he has no personality
@@Shahriyararin63 didn't they only show him for like a minute
@@MidnightDubstep yeah but still Into the Spider-Verse Green Goblin is even worse
TASM 2 goblin is def green goblin. Goblin deez nuts that is heyooo
William Dafoe green goblin is the best !!!
why you didnt mention the james franco goblin from spiderrnan3?
Because he isn't Green Goblin. Harry becomes an original version called the "New Goblin" which is unique to Spider-Man 3. So, it doesn't count.
@@SlasherIncorporated But he talked about harry becoming the gobling in TASM2 and The Animated Series .. why not in his first live action?
@@sebastianbernardez472 Because, once again, he is not the Green Goblin in Spider-Man 3. This video is talking about how NOT to adapt Green Goblin. Harry became his own Goblin character in Spider-Man 3. Harry in TASM 2 was that universe's version of Green Goblin. Understand?
Did they do the hair green goblin well in spiderman 3
I dont think he even counts as Goblin, he's called in the credits "New Goblin"
I honestly need Norman in the mcu but have it be a suspenseful mystery the whole movie because Peter knows that Norman is the green goblin but in another universe, so it’s him having his guard up waiting for him to reveal himself. Maybe have a goblin but using gear supplied by Norman and he does like a “the test was successful now it’s my turn” idk
Hey I like the 60’s Spider-Man cartoon green goblin but as for the Amazing Spider-Man 2 version was very force as I was under the impression that the first movie felt more built towards Norman than Harry as with this mysterious Gentleman and also it feels like Peter doesn’t know the Osborns as he did stole a man’s identity to sneak into Oscorp so I don’t know was it the studio that made Marc Webb bring Harry or was it that movie Chronicle and that he wanted to 💩 on Peter’s life because of some blood that may not work because I think that Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man should be anti capitalist like those kind of people who think all rich people are crooked and that they exploit people so Peter should say no I’m not giving you my blood because this whole disease thing is a scam and that you’re an exploiting Tyrant.
I’m more of a fan when Harry becomes new goblin or hobgoblin in the ultimate comics and that crappy Spider-Man show
For being known as spiderman's arch enemy, bro hasn't really shown up in a lot of things lol
Every single Spider-Man show, all three live action adaptations, being set up as the final villan in Insomniac games, and even in the first Spiderverse movie.
He has appeared in every single Spidey adaptation bro
@@file_boi020 because outside of the next insomniac game he’s never been the main villain of a major Spider-Man game. He’s not in the psx game, he’s basically nonexistent in Ultimate Spider-Man, he’s not in Web Of Shadows or Shattered Dimensions and Edge of Time (no I don’t count Noir Goblin) and isn’t gonna be in the insomniac games until five years from now. It’s the inverse issue of Batman games over reliance on Joker
@@CursedShinobiClownI have never played these spidey games you mentioned and didnt know he was absent in them. Strange considering he is the arch nemesis, he could even appear as a boss or sth.
So yeah. Point taken. He was kinda absent from games for a while now and we'll have to wait a long time for Spider man 3.
14:14 harry was never goblin
What’s your opinion on “The New Goblin” from Spider-Man 3? I thought he was terribly designed on that one too he looks too much like the Spider-Man villain The Rocket Racer.