The making of a Krupp K5 280mm railway gun
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Krupp's K5 series mounted a 21.5 meter long gun barrel in a fixed mounting with only vertical elevation of the weapon. This gondola was then mounted on a pair of 12-wheel bogies designed to be operated on commercial and military rails built to German standards. This mounting permitted only two degrees of horizontal traverse. The carriage had to be aligned on the rails first, with only minimal fine leveling capable once halted. Hence the gun could only fire at targets tangential to an existing railway track.
To track targets needing greater traverse either a curved length of railway was used with the gun shunted backwards or forwards to aim; a cross-track was laid with the front bogie turned perpendicular to the rest of the gun and moved up and down the cross-track to train the weapon; or for 360 degree traverse, the "Vögele Turntable" could be constructed, consisting of a raised rail section (the "firing bed") carrying the gun, running on a circular track with a central jack to raise the gun during traverse and to take some of the enormous weight. - Věda a technologie
Insaaaane how they developed all the industrial machinetechnology to produce the massive amounts of world breaking warmachines of all types! When i worked at at GKN Driveline in Köping (Sweden) which was very advanced in both machines and robotics, we still had two WW2 era german lathes, cuz NO cnc machine could cut the small cogwheels in brass like they could, with such precision. They are truly amazing!
Most of it was old machinery, processes slightly different
Different for aircraft though, stressed-skin techniques etc
It's not that we can't make machines like that anymore, it's that it's a bit expensive, and pre-1970 tooling doesn't wear out quickly when it gets maintenance and new cutting edges.
German manufacture is overrepresented in parts of the world simply because they had a _massive_ tool making industry which was very efficient. It's the same effect as old german cars, Taiwanese semiconductors, and Boeing (1960-2024)
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@@LolTollhurstthey able to do that because of massive state intervention and funding, and the fact they had a war economy, today's economy is excessively shortsighted and too much time is spent on doing financial optimization instead of pure innovation
And the usa and USSR brought them here and there to fuel the cold war.
They took machines. Presses. Foundries. Scientists. Generals.
The advancements in eye protection during this time period are amazing…
First time seeing that famous German engineering in action, very interesting
Krupp was simply a legendary arms manufacturer. They built stuff that would very difficult to build today. And they built it with great steel and great precision.
Он был легендарным капиталистом, кто наживался на войне. Преступником и убийцей. Сообщником нацистов. Позор Круппу!
@@kotnapromke Then so are the conglomerates running your Russian plants like Almaz-Antey or Sukhoi.
Krupp and Reightanmetal build very nice shells that England enjoyed back then... And in 2024 they still making shells, cannons and weapons
@@kotnapromkeКак и весь ВПК нынешней рф тоже является сообщником российского нацизма. Позор рособоронпрому!
No they built stuff that was difficult back then but easy to make now.
No PC, no pocket calculator but brains!
And Skills👍
And slide rules
And safet glasses...
Why, is it any different today? A CAD software still requires an engineer to design, and you need skilled people to program the CNC, and lot of the fine work is still done with hands.
Also engineers by this point most assuredly used a wide range of mechanic aid tools, slide rulers, analogue calculators and various charts with precomputed figures.
But you won’t see awesome vids of them 90 years from now!
Forge to rough shape then machine to perfection, love this type of manufacturing
Really cool and impressive, ... no matter how you slice it.
Priceless images
opening shot got me excited
What superb engineering it seems way ahead of its time I feel we are behind our times in technology today especially In aerodynamics not necessarily aerospace
absolutely amazing footage.
Craziest thing about footage like that is, that there are still plenty of nations which are not able to construct such a piece with the these tolerances even to this day.
I’ve said many times; the logistics of war is absolutely mind-blowing!
И бессмысленная. Всем народам принесло только горе и смерть. А капиталисты получили огромную прибыль.
Tell that to tovaritsch Putin, please!@@kotnapromke
@@alfonsfalkhayn8950 Путин господин. Он капиталист такой же как Крупп. Если не любишь Путина, езжай в Украину. У мри в окопе как герой. За интересы капиталистов.
@@alfonsfalkhayn8950 Ты из окопа пишешь? Или с мягкого дивана, герой?
@@kotnapromke you are a tool of the putin regime. better think with your own head, if possible at all. really. think about China und Russia........
1:20 that guy just eating those sparks 😅
Fuck safety the Russians are coming
Incredible to see all the effort it takes to make such a gun. If people only put the effort into something non destructive.
If you allow your countries' military might to lag behind others, you get attacked.. As a nation you NEED to put resources into defense or face the consequence, Einstein..
This is a fallen "sinful" world; Yeshua is the Way the Truth and the Life.
Expecting anything other than bad is not addtessing mans sinful desires.
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Sin creates entitlement.
True…!
When I was at Fort Dix me and a couple of guys got the pleasure of painting the Railway gun Leopold which was on display…took a lot of paint and ladders it was hard work with a paint brush but it was better than marching to the gun ranges! Steve
I visited the one at the battery todt in northern france. Truly amazing piece. Now think about how big the schwerer gustav must have been
Turns out a bigger piece of steel is needed to make another smaller piece of steel. Amazing find
Can’t be. You mean after the Bronze Age we started with the biggest piece and now are down to size..?
Wow the twin carriage lathe at 50 sec. is a magnificent machine tool. Might be a Dortmund.
Deutsche wertarbeit, und kein Ausland Müll.👍🏻
They are still (desperately) searching workers in the german metal processing plants. You will be welcome 😅
Anzio Anne as the Yanks called it. The Germans called it Leopold. My next door neighbor herd one of these shooting at ships out in the harbor off the city of Anzio, he was with 45TH infantry div. You can see Leopold at the FT LEE Army ordinance museum
Ordnance not ordinance.
You must be a teacher😮
Livetime: 240 shots. 12 shots/h with 255 kg Granate at a range of max. 62 km. Impressiv!
Krupp also built the “Heavy Gustav” with an 80 cm cannon💪
Absolutely superb vid. Thanks.
God bless them for trying
The scene at 1:17 appears to be a component of the Schwere Gustav 80cm railroad gun. It's far too large to be a part of the K5.
That may actually be the outer jacket - notice the screw threads for the breech block. If these guns were built similarly to the 28cm guns used on the battleships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, they consisted of an "A" tube, loose liner, two-part shrunk-on jacket, a breech end piece that was screwed to the jacket, and a breech block supporting piece was screwed into the breech end-piece.
Mate, where do you find this stuff? It's fascinating.👍
i.imgur.com/PCIWLZ5.jpg
@@hw97karbine Thanks man!👍
🤣@@hw97karbine
Wait a minute.....you done me horrible! I'd still watch anyway mate. 😊
@@robertwright7937 that was of course in jest, the real answer is that most of the material you will see here comes from public archives, one just needs the patience to sift through it and some background knowledge to appreciate what one is looking at
Going back to work in a fabrication shop after watching this video makes my work feel like im making toys now😂😂
🤣1:20, ja das wünsche ich mir auch manch mal das ich in mein Baskül reinkriechen könnte um dort zu schleifen, was für Trümmer. Der Erfahrungsschatz aus der Produktion muss für die damalige Zeit enorm gewesen sein.
Krupp Stahl still makes military equipment! Wish they'd make a big Bertha
like how it is made 60 years ago =)
Pure perfection as always from that time!!😎🐓🐓🐓🐓🇬🇧
I would have loved to see this assembly and the machine tools to make the parts. I'm looking at these guys as craftsmen with skills. I saw Anzio Annie and looked at all of the welding on the rail car, how many hours and pieces of rod to complete it. I worked at a place that made really big machines, so I looked at it from a different perspective.
Beastly
From Naval guns to coffee makers. Brought to you by Krupp.
Awesome, it has a lot of close ups that can be used to capture details for 3d modelling, thanks.
0:56 it always makes me wonder how many of these workers could see after a few years in a machining factory given the lack of eye protection.
I'm sure a lot of eyes and fingers were lost, but probably not as much as you think.
And sometimes eyes are lost even with glasses on.
This is not related to safety glasses, but youtube keeps trying to get me to watch the video about that Texas lady that lost an eye when her cheap airbag smashed her cheap sunglasses into her face.
There is a good reason all those safety rules exist. Even if deadly accidents were rare this kind of work still took a huge toll on the body.
Damals war der deutsche Schwermaschinenbau der beste der Welt. 👍👍
Früher war alles früher.
....und heute ist er scheiße - tja, die Zeit vergeht!
Very impressive.
WOW, How in seven hells did I not see this before!!
Anzio Annie is on display ib Aberdeen, Maryland. 😮😮Impressive😮
before they disable the comments, i just wanna say these men were geniuses!
People were so different grinding inside a tube with no earpro gave me tinnitus i think all of these guys had that
Slide rule! Pencil and paper. Drawing table with compass and straight edge.😅
But my Lord, there is no Railway Cannon
Saruman reference ;)?
@@derherrgraf6001 yup!
This is the ordnance not the modified railway carriage supporting the 280-mm cannon. A limited number would become the Atomic Cannon in US Army service. A low-yield fission weapon would have been used if ever used in combat.
Hahaha great reference 😂
Imagine the things they could've built if they had proper lighting on the factory floor
Weapons of God!!
What a shame that fantastically talented engineers are wasted making
weapons of war
War skyrocketed technology into the future
@@IvanIvanovvthis is a myth, the concurrent exploitation of fossil fuel by ever more efficient means created development. War reduced men and materials and once the fossil fuels are exhausted see what happens if the civilian technologies cannot compensate.
Celebration of war is capitalist Imperialist meme and an offence to humanity.
War is what drives humans to create better things. For the most part. Humans trying to save themselves from other humans or humans trying to kill other humans better.
@@michaelgallagher2151 this is an insane myth.
War is incredibly destructive and when the oil wasted is counted future generations will think us obscene
Doug Marcaida: "It will keel"
Tremendous...
Adeptus approved!!
Und heute würden wir sowas nicht mehr hinkriegen, müssten wir in Südkorea oder China fertigen lassen, ansonsten würde es deutlich über dem geplanten Preis oder Zeit liegen ... :)
Crazy as hell! 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
cool
Today still Germans are good in metalmechanic industry
凄い設備ですよね💦🙋🙌🙌現在とも遜色がない🙌❗️ドイツの科学は世界一 ~ーーーーーー‼️ラインメタル社ですか?クルップ社ですか?
3:08 Thomas is only following orders.
edit:this silent video goes well with Firestarter by The Prodigy
A lot of work? Saw 1 in APG,MD.
Can you do one on how tank armor is made?
A little factory segment on the Panzer III is coming up too ;)
@@hw97karbine nice
That's a sexy press forge!
Lathe is slightly too big, for my home workshop, though...
Those workers, dream job during WWII, unless concentration camp workers :-/
1:53 Huge shrink/interference fit barrel? Wonder how they get the jacket off, if barrel is worn out?
Soltam peças da parte de trás e empurram o cano com uma ponteira hidráulica .
Eh, try to find the camp photos banned from youtube, and most of the internet, and you'll see a different story.
There is even Red Cross video footage of the camps as the AlLie propaganda somewhat backfired as Germans started having more film and photos taken to fight back against the propaganda.
It is cool. At 2.20 is that a headspace measurement??
I read somewhere that they made each shell slightly larger on the driving bands to ensure accuracy. Still neat.
Well, the banned photos tell a different story.
Os alemães sempre foram engenhosos em construir coisas de ótima qualidade! 🤔
2:29 Oooooh ahhh Hot hot hot hot hot!
How many of these were made?
Is the inside of the gun barrel turned on the lathe or what? I wonder how do they get it to precise diameter. Can someone explain please?
All that steel was pre nuclear as well, no radiological contaminants
It's a shame such brilliant minds were used for the purpose of death and destruction
Its an 11inch gun 280mm is 28cm =11inches
Himars missile strike?? K5: hold my beer!!
i am interested, how many pieces of K5 guns were built? Has anyone numbers?
what year was this filmed?
Технологии , которые мы потеряли ( и всё благодаря китайцам ) ...
No wonder these guys invented the widia
С таким трудом делают то, что будет убивать
We can't build this today
We can.
How many were made?
Total production was around 25 pieces.
While ingenious, also incredibly stupid. Should have taken the resources and build more Stug 3s
сумеречный немецкий гений.
In hindsight, it would have been smarter to build lots of railguns instead of placing heavy guns on battleships such as Bismarck, Tirpitz, Scharnhorst, and Gneisenau. Instead of that, the Kriegsmarine should have been equipped with a minimum of 4 aircraft carriers.
I wish to see these with the original audio, where do I go for them.
sound would have been nice with the video.
It is all cool old stuff but... 1:16 this man is using his tool the wrong way. You should avoid the sparks from flying into your face.
Right? Why don't you show them how to do it? Typical YT keyboard know it all. Go back and take your nap.
Goes to Paris
All this stuff was built on a "feeling of injustice", pride and hatred.
What is the range on that mother? 200 miles?😂
Die Höchstschussweite des 255,5 kg schweren Geschosses betrug 62.400 m. Die Granaten mit Raketenzusatzantrieb erreichten 86.500 m und die unterkalibrigen Treibspiegelgeschosse mit Stabilisierungsflügeln für das 310-mm-Rohr 160 km. Das Laden eines Geschosses dauerte drei bis fünf Minuten
Imagine all these resources and human creativity were used for good instead of evil.
DemocraticSocialismNOW
Our naval guns were just as good.
False title.
These are little elves making kids toys.
Closeted…you know what’s…in here
They should have built more of the bloody useless things.
you can tell its evil because of the way it looks
you know its 'evil' if you are on the receiving end of it...if you are one of the people who make it go bang its just another day at the office
These workers guiding the barrel, with their bare hands and limbs, while it is move into rotating machinery...is so incredibly stupid to see...like they can manipulate it with their hands and weight to make it fit better? Or make it go in more precise? The weight of that thing is far too large. They where risking their limbs to do so. They must have been, dumb? Without any smart supervision? Or willing to get out of that factory horizontally? Did they rather sit in a hospital with missing limbs, other than to work there? It seems totally stupid. That no supervisor told them to keep there hands away from it, baffles me.
The times then were simple. If somebody gets injured, they kicked him out and hired a new one. There were plenty of them.
So so you are saying dumb idiots built this that no other nation could today.
Back then there was a thing called COMMON SENSE and then there is also a thing called EXPERIENCE.
Today you have signs on gasoline pumps saying " Do not insert in mouth or rectum ".......
Meanwhile in the US: Bob, get those 16 inches guns ready for our boats.
Congratulations, a really great and interesting and very rare video, thank you for making it possible, what an incredible job Thank you very mutch 👏👏👍👍👌👌🫡🫡🫡
Desperdicio de tiempo y recursos en vano....
The Question is....Germany is not as big as Russia with Enormous resources in terms of Iron ores etc...Where did Germany gets its iron ores to build this giant weapon?..Does Germany had its own natural resources?
The iron ore came from Sweden.