QUICK NOTE! I forgot to mention the different Wireless chip that the two cameras have. The E2 uses 2.4GHz and the E2-M4 uses 5GHz. This means the M4 will have less latency / faster data transfers and less interference (at the cost of less distance).
Could you explain to me how I can set the camera to use it fpr 120 or 160 fps? even if I change the seetings according to his instructions it doesn't show me the possibility to switch into 120 fps or more.
The hat is out! Who else can't wait for barbers to open back up? Anyway, let us know what you think of the new E2 and what you want to shoot at 4K 160 fps down in the comments below!
With ef mount and eND is cool. But then stuck with mft crop. Which will make have ultrawide angle quite impossible. I guess most people will opt for mft mount and speedboost.
There's some slow mo in the vid ;) and plenty of awesome videos online already. However our flagship review will include some more E2 tests! Thanks and thanks for watching!!
Yeah, I bought the E2C. Great little camera, but now with the M4, these two would make a great A/B camera setup. Use the M4 as the main cam, E2C as the b-cam.
Awesome idea! The E2C is great but for the extra for most people the M4 will make a much better primary camera! Think you'll be happy with the pair though!
Thanks for the video. I have the E2C and probably if the E2-M4 would have been out back then I'd rather have gotten that. It seems pretty impressive for the price. However, the E2C also dropped in price here in Germany and I might rather get a second one than a E2-M4… depending on my clients wanting quantity vs quality. :-D Actually a comparison of their entry level M2 vs E2-M4 would make sense.
@@exoticcarlife2904 Let me put it this way… I still haven't found the golden path to good pictures with the E2C. Is it me, is it the camera? Pehaps both. It's so much easier with my GH5. I'm actually never 100% satisfied with the image from the E2C. The GH5 in contrast often times still makes me do images that bring me great joy, even though it's not the most up-to-date and superior camera. I use the E2C in streaming, however, which depending on the job has some real benefits, especially the remote control via network/browser and the power over ethernet option (which unfortunately the E2-M4 does not have). Not all streams demand TV-style quality. Often times its 1 camera and doing something about good audio. So far, alright with me, I can do the live streaming thing and if I take good care of the lights they're not bad. For pro production however, I'd much more like to get more Panasonic gear. It is easier to use for me, plus it corrects for the lens distortion, which unfortunately often times is a part of the MFT ecosystem.
the z cam is more cinema camera style so its got more features but its more manually controlled while the BGH1 is more of a do it all camera, both are excellent though
@@WildfoxFabrication i was saving up since i saw it drop, a huge upgrade in workflow and quality. need to get good storage i filled up a TB drive after two shoots.
It would 100% however I think if filmmaking is your focus and not studio or live production I would suggest trying to get the extra budget for the M4. We made a video about the E2C here - czcams.com/video/e8yG2aJHjrU/video.html
Hi, Thanks for the great video. Quick question. Can I connect to LANC control port on ZCAM E2-M4 or E2-S6 instead of USB-C ? ie. LANC on Ninja V to LANC on E2 camera. Keeping USB-C free is useful to record with SSD disks directly.
how would you compare this dealio to the canon c100 or c300 MK ii? I'm just curious on account of lenses, monitor, CFast memory, overall budget efficiency ?
I would love to see offset frame rates (VFR) in a firmware update similar to the BMPCC4K! Or just even having more even fps in VFR mode such as 32fps, 34fps, 36ps and etc.
We should be getting more in stock next week. If you are keen to get your hands on one I would suggest pre-ordering via the site or a sales manager as we have pre-orders already and it's first come first serve.
I think for now its worth to wait for a move from panasonic. A gh6 could end up in a similar price to an mft z-cam, Hopefully better specs and ull get autofocus, ibis and all the goodies.
I like the form factor but don't know about the image quality, highlights and lowlights recovery, dynamic range, color bit definition... comparison to Arri Alexa or red Komodo My 10 years old Alexa classic with its dual gain architecture sensor is still unbelievable cinematic and easy to use, image quality is all.
I'm intrigued to see how the flagships compare to others at their pricepoint. The original Alexa's image is still fantastic but saying image quality is all, doesn't mean it's all for everybody. Cameras are full of compromise and deciding what compromise is best for your work is a personal decision.
I have the original E2 and have grown to love it. But I really like this M4 model, mount options, eND for EF mount and will likely snag this in the near future. also 100th like. Felt good.
What would be the best setting to use with Ninja V? I am not able to output C4K 60FPS to Ninja V. Is it not possible? The unit I have has official firmware not prores raw beta firmware.
Image quality wise there is a debate to be had, BMD UI is great and BRAW is a decent codec. However there are reasons that the Z CAM's make more sense for some people. The main three things that come to mind are the form factor benefits, battery options and power draw is much much better and higher frame rate options. At the end of the day cameras are full of compromise and the best choice for you may not be for another filmmaker!
Hi. Can you explain how it works with EF adapter and EF lenses? Does the sensor get the full field of view and light from the lens, or it takes only central part of the whole field? (excuse me if I'm not clear enough).
If you are adapting straight onto the camera with an EF adapter you'll have to take the crop into account and you will get no extra light. If you you are adapting with a speedbooster (0.71 or 0.64) you will get a wider FOV and more light.
Check out this webpage to see the crop modes but you can choose for the most part! reduxfilm.co/z-cam-handbook/ The M4 has dual base iso so it's very good for a M43 sensor! Jake
Slightly better & larger sensor than GH5, ProRes internally, ZRAW internally, ProRes RAW externally 4K 160fps, better form factor, can record to USB-C or CFAST, amazing battery life from industry standard NPF Sony batteries, Gigabit Ethernet for a range of utilities, there's much much more to talk about too.
I think the sensor of the E2-M4 compares more to the GH5s. There are plenty of neat features of the E2* series compared to GH5(s), e.g. recording ProRes to USB-C SSDs. I own a E2C and I find it easier to grade good skin tones from it than from the GH5. The battery life is insane and the direct streaming to CZcams and the like (needs a computer/laptop to be set up) is worth a lot in these pandemic times. However, mostly unmentioned: The E2* cameras do not compensate lens distortion. Also true for the BMPCC4k. Pretty much all mirrorless photo cameras however do compensate for lens distortion when recording video, even the chepest ones. People seem to like the Olympus Pro 12-40 f2,8 with the E2* cameras. I use it, too. It looks quite bent on 12mm, so when I got the time I rather use a cheap Samyang 12mm prime instead.
For this, I was using a Smallrig 1/4" to cold shoe adapter & with a Manfrotto 492LCD. You will be able to put any cold shoe handle on the top which will be better than a 492 as a handle haha I only used it as it's all I had available.
Is anyone selling ZCAM E2/E2-M4? Able to send overseas and take installment? Would love to get my hands on it but in need of help getting it both camera and financially. Would appreciate it a lot to kick start my cinematography journey :) thank you
Hi I have a GH5 and a atomos Ninja to record ProRes HQ. I want to get a second camera and make my gh5 the BCam but for my A cam I was thinking the Zcam E2 M4 or the GH5S. The plus of the gh5s is that they are the same brands and easy to match however the Zcam would allow me to record ProRes HQ internally and so the gh5 could keep the ninja V and also record ProRes hq thus all the footage would be ProRes without buying another ninja or just having my Bcam footage just Vlog if I got the GH5S. If you were me would you go for the gh5s or the Zcam E2 M4 to mate with the GH5 and advice would be appreciated as I have been stuck on this choice e for quite some time. Thanks JF
Hey JF, I think you picking up an M4 and using your Ninja V for your GH5 is a good idea! I think you will be able to match the M4 with the GH5 fairly easy as you can shoot LOG on both, though grading ZLOG2 is a bit more involved than VLOG. This is an excellent first step into small form factor cine cameras and I think you would be happy with the results! Any other questions let me know! Jake
I would say yes, though using the Z CAM will be a bit of a learning curve over a GH5S. Luckily their Facebook group is very welcoming and has so much information, so I would advise joining that if you decide to go down that route! Jake
CF card what on earth it is a death format , rather SD cards and direct plugin option not via C cable to M2 SSD HDD would have been a way better method
QUICK NOTE! I forgot to mention the different Wireless chip that the two cameras have. The E2 uses 2.4GHz and the E2-M4 uses 5GHz. This means the M4 will have less latency / faster data transfers and less interference (at the cost of less distance).
0:14 - To clarify, the 4K 160fps is to H.265 only and not to ProRes or ProResRAW
Could you explain to me how I can set the camera to use it fpr 120 or 160 fps? even if I change the seetings according to his instructions it doesn't show me the possibility to switch into 120 fps or more.
@@FabriceLabakoYou need to update your firmware
@@Studiotek thanks for the info. It's been 3 years and I have figured it out and sold the camera already🤣
The hat is out! Who else can't wait for barbers to open back up? Anyway, let us know what you think of the new E2 and what you want to shoot at 4K 160 fps down in the comments below!
Hi. Is there a crop factor when shooting at 160fps?
Thank you for that excellent video. It's the part on the remouvable mounts that solves some of my issues. So well done.
Awesome introduction. Much appreciated.
Glad you liked it!
I already ordered mine, looking forward to put it to work! Thanks for the review, great information.
T I E N E S R A Z O N A M I G O.......
With ef mount and eND is cool. But then stuck with mft crop. Which will make have ultrawide angle quite impossible. I guess most people will opt for mft mount and speedboost.
As a Sony user longing for A7s3, I'll get the Z Cam when it supports E mount.
Yeppp same for sure. This camera is nuts for it's price. Just already have a lot of high end Sony glass.
You bet.
It supports E Mount now!
@@SoundSpeeding do you have a link for the e-mount?
@@chrismarks2458 Here you go: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1612974-REG/viltrox_e_t10_manual_focus_mount_adapter.html
Just ordered one! Thanks for the video.
E Mount yessss! Thank you Z - Cam!
Great info, thanks!
Great comp, Jake - thanks! Dunno if it makes sense to unload my E2, though it sounds like excellent upgrades....
Great overview. Would love to see some footage from the camera. Cheers
There's some slow mo in the vid ;) and plenty of awesome videos online already. However our flagship review will include some more E2 tests! Thanks and thanks for watching!!
@@CVPTV Cool thanks for the reply.
Waiting for mine already! excited! thanks for the vid! I hope they create a mount for sony e mount lenes! DX
Yeah, I bought the E2C. Great little camera, but now with the M4, these two would make a great A/B camera setup. Use the M4 as the main cam, E2C as the b-cam.
Awesome idea! The E2C is great but for the extra for most people the M4 will make a much better primary camera! Think you'll be happy with the pair though!
Great Vid! Super excited to see more footage from this little beast! Will you be comparing the m4 to the F6/F8?
Cool cam for sure !!
Great video mate! Cheers /Fred
ZCAM YES ! -- GM lens user
first time seeing this camera.cool
Cheers dude for an informative video... just a minor critique... your sound is not completely synced 😉
Thanks for the video. I have the E2C and probably if the E2-M4 would have been out back then I'd rather have gotten that. It seems pretty impressive for the price. However, the E2C also dropped in price here in Germany and I might rather get a second one than a E2-M4… depending on my clients wanting quantity vs quality. :-D Actually a comparison of their entry level M2 vs E2-M4 would make sense.
How is the E2C performing for you so far?
@@exoticcarlife2904 Let me put it this way… I still haven't found the golden path to good pictures with the E2C. Is it me, is it the camera? Pehaps both. It's so much easier with my GH5. I'm actually never 100% satisfied with the image from the E2C. The GH5 in contrast often times still makes me do images that bring me great joy, even though it's not the most up-to-date and superior camera. I use the E2C in streaming, however, which depending on the job has some real benefits, especially the remote control via network/browser and the power over ethernet option (which unfortunately the E2-M4 does not have). Not all streams demand TV-style quality. Often times its 1 camera and doing something about good audio.
So far, alright with me, I can do the live streaming thing and if I take good care of the lights they're not bad. For pro production however, I'd much more like to get more Panasonic gear. It is easier to use for me, plus it corrects for the lens distortion, which unfortunately often times is a part of the MFT ecosystem.
i swear if they make an e mount for the z cam especially for the full frame version, we probably don't need sony to release a7s iii anymore lol
They will be, they have a 3rd party producing it and hopefully it's released soon!
So the video produced by these two cameras is identical?
I want this!
Is this comparable to the Panasonic BGH1?
the z cam is more cinema camera style so its got more features but its more manually controlled while the BGH1 is more of a do it all camera, both are excellent though
@@WildfoxFabrication Just got my hands on the E2-M4 and i'm loving it. ProRes is such a step up from h.264
@@DaveyG im highly considering picking it up as well. jus need to sell a bunch of my stuff to afford it lol
@@WildfoxFabrication i was saving up since i saw it drop, a huge upgrade in workflow and quality. need to get good storage i filled up a TB drive after two shoots.
This is insane
really tempted, previously this release, I was S6 fan, right now with your clean info I don´t know. Just hate massive crop factor MFT sensor, hhhmhh
The XL speedbooster gets you very close to FF FOV's!
Could you do a video of the E2 C and if it would work for film making
It would 100% however I think if filmmaking is your focus and not studio or live production I would suggest trying to get the extra budget for the M4. We made a video about the E2C here - czcams.com/video/e8yG2aJHjrU/video.html
Hi, Thanks for the great video. Quick question. Can I connect to LANC control port on ZCAM E2-M4 or E2-S6 instead of USB-C ? ie. LANC on Ninja V to LANC on E2 camera. Keeping USB-C free is useful to record with SSD disks directly.
Nice!
how do you use Autofocus function and aperture when using canon ef lens with metabone?
how would you compare this dealio to the canon c100 or c300 MK ii? I'm just curious on account of lenses, monitor, CFast memory, overall budget efficiency ?
I would love to see offset frame rates (VFR) in a firmware update similar to the BMPCC4K! Or just even having more even fps in VFR mode such as 32fps, 34fps, 36ps and etc.
Have you voiced this in the Facebook group? May be worth posting there as well!
@@CVPTV Well I just found out that they indeed do have offset frame rates (VFR)
Great vid! Do you know when you’ll have em in stock in the UK?
We should be getting more in stock next week. If you are keen to get your hands on one I would suggest pre-ordering via the site or a sales manager as we have pre-orders already and it's first come first serve.
CVP Awesome, thanks for the speedy reply!
I think for now its worth to wait for a move from panasonic. A gh6 could end up in a similar price to an mft z-cam, Hopefully better specs and ull get autofocus, ibis and all the goodies.
Well, the GH6 is now out. It costs 35% more than the M4, and I don't want IBIS. I want a BGH2
great cam
I like the form factor but don't know about the image quality, highlights and lowlights recovery, dynamic range, color bit definition... comparison to Arri Alexa or red Komodo
My 10 years old Alexa classic with its dual gain architecture sensor is still unbelievable cinematic and easy to use, image quality is all.
I'm intrigued to see how the flagships compare to others at their pricepoint. The original Alexa's image is still fantastic but saying image quality is all, doesn't mean it's all for everybody. Cameras are full of compromise and deciding what compromise is best for your work is a personal decision.
RED Komodo is about $5000 more....
I have the original E2 and have grown to love it. But I really like this M4 model, mount options, eND for EF mount and will likely snag this in the near future.
also 100th like. Felt good.
It's an awesome camera that's got even better with the M4! I've seen a few people selling their E2's to pick this one up. and thanks for the like ;)
is the video as good as the F6 ??
Can you use this for live streaming?
Does E2 M4 come with power cables? I want to attach a V mount in the back power through D tap to 2pin Lemo cable.
I need to stream 16 zcams in 1080p into vmix or obs, what would be the best option to do this before I buy them to find out its not possible?
What would be the best setting to use with Ninja V? I am not able to output C4K 60FPS to Ninja V. Is it not possible? The unit I have has official firmware not prores raw beta firmware.
Great info, thanks! Does the E2M4 internal recording on CFast supports Apple ProRes422? Is Atomos necessary?
Thanks for watching! Yes you can record a range of ProRes internally. You only need an external recorded for ProRes RAW! Jake
@@CVPTV thx
think I would just get the Blackmagic camera at that price range for the 6k
Image quality wise there is a debate to be had, BMD UI is great and BRAW is a decent codec. However there are reasons that the Z CAM's make more sense for some people. The main three things that come to mind are the form factor benefits, battery options and power draw is much much better and higher frame rate options. At the end of the day cameras are full of compromise and the best choice for you may not be for another filmmaker!
Hi, do you know if this cam supports genlock?
Hi. Can you explain how it works with EF adapter and EF lenses? Does the sensor get the full field of view and light from the lens, or it takes only central part of the whole field? (excuse me if I'm not clear enough).
If you are adapting straight onto the camera with an EF adapter you'll have to take the crop into account and you will get no extra light. If you you are adapting with a speedbooster (0.71 or 0.64) you will get a wider FOV and more light.
@@CVPTV thank you!
did they also remove timecode support or just sync? If it still supports external TC I’d be happy to get one
Angel Diaz supports external timecode jam with Z CAM Timecode Adapter.
Does the EF mount have electronic control for aperture and IS?
Yes it does. Jake
Full Hd 240 FPS with 2mp? Thats dirty
Any sensor crop in 4K or slow motion ?
Good low light ?
Check out this webpage to see the crop modes but you can choose for the most part! reduxfilm.co/z-cam-handbook/
The M4 has dual base iso so it's very good for a M43 sensor! Jake
Waiting on mines from B&H Have you attempted the external protest raw ?
I have ;)
So can this camera do internal prores 422hq? the website does not list it
Yes it can! Jake
What would be the main benefit(s) over a GH5?
Slightly better & larger sensor than GH5, ProRes internally, ZRAW internally, ProRes RAW externally 4K 160fps, better form factor, can record to USB-C or CFAST, amazing battery life from industry standard NPF Sony batteries, Gigabit Ethernet for a range of utilities, there's much much more to talk about too.
I think the sensor of the E2-M4 compares more to the GH5s. There are plenty of neat features of the E2* series compared to GH5(s), e.g. recording ProRes to USB-C SSDs. I own a E2C and I find it easier to grade good skin tones from it than from the GH5. The battery life is insane and the direct streaming to CZcams and the like (needs a computer/laptop to be set up) is worth a lot in these pandemic times.
However, mostly unmentioned: The E2* cameras do not compensate lens distortion. Also true for the BMPCC4k. Pretty much all mirrorless photo cameras however do compensate for lens distortion when recording video, even the chepest ones. People seem to like the Olympus Pro 12-40 f2,8 with the E2* cameras. I use it, too. It looks quite bent on 12mm, so when I got the time I rather use a cheap Samyang 12mm prime instead.
What handle is that in the show with no cage? Since you can’t get a cage anywhere I’m going to need a handle with a 1/4 20!
For this, I was using a Smallrig 1/4" to cold shoe adapter & with a Manfrotto 492LCD. You will be able to put any cold shoe handle on the top which will be better than a 492 as a handle haha I only used it as it's all I had available.
CVP thanks so much. Looks like it’s going to be a hot minute before the cages are readily available.
Cheers.
Hey could anyone here tell me if I should get a used URSA 4.6k or a new E2-M4, which one is the better main camera?
Thank you
Which version of the 4.6K are you referring to here?
@@CVPTV thanks for answering. right now I have two offers. the original 4.6k for 2200 EUR and the pro version for 3100 EUR
Great info, where can i find real Z Cam E2 M4 videos?
Just search for any ZCAM E2 footage, the sensor is the same.
Also how is this not a real video 🤣
@@CVPTV Thanks As you mentioned I was looking for ......footage ....but hey try to say that in Swedish
Is anyone selling ZCAM E2/E2-M4? Able to send overseas and take installment? Would love to get my hands on it but in need of help getting it both camera and financially. Would appreciate it a lot to kick start my cinematography journey :) thank you
can you record usb-c ssd with this camera. Can can you record prores raw with the c fast card
Yes you can use USB-C to record h265, h264, ProRes & ZRAW. You can only record ProRes raw via the hdmi to a Ninja V.
@@CVPTV do you know when the speed booster will be avaliable
As in their Turbo Mount? If so no but hopefully soon!
No F mount?
Afraid not but you should be able to the E mount once that comes out!
What lens is that on 5:18?
One of the DZO Optics zoom lenses!
Hi I have a GH5 and a atomos Ninja to record ProRes HQ. I want to get a second camera and make my gh5 the BCam but for my A cam I was thinking the Zcam E2 M4 or the GH5S. The plus of the gh5s is that they are the same brands and easy to match however the Zcam would allow me to record ProRes HQ internally and so the gh5 could keep the ninja V and also record ProRes hq thus all the footage would be ProRes without buying another ninja or just having my Bcam footage just Vlog if I got the GH5S. If you were me would you go for the gh5s or the Zcam E2 M4 to mate with the GH5 and advice would be appreciated as I have been stuck on this choice e for quite some time. Thanks JF
Hey JF, I think you picking up an M4 and using your Ninja V for your GH5 is a good idea! I think you will be able to match the M4 with the GH5 fairly easy as you can shoot LOG on both, though grading ZLOG2 is a bit more involved than VLOG. This is an excellent first step into small form factor cine cameras and I think you would be happy with the results! Any other questions let me know! Jake
@@CVPTV hey Jake thanks for the reply it's really appreciated. Does that mean the E2 M4 is the better choice over the GH5S?
Thanks JF
I would say yes, though using the Z CAM will be a bit of a learning curve over a GH5S. Luckily their Facebook group is very welcoming and has so much information, so I would advise joining that if you decide to go down that route! Jake
@@CVPTV thanks Jake great advice.
ЗБС, уже 100500 моделей. И правда, зачем R&D, если прототип можно уже продавать:))) отзывы ютуберов стоят не дорого
Did you say records ProRes raw internal?
ProRes internally, ProRes RAW externally.
CF card what on earth it is a death format , rather SD cards and direct plugin option not via C cable to M2 SSD HDD would have been a way better method
Do you mean Compact Flash? That's not what format it uses if so. It takes CFast 2.0, a very alive video media format.
No ibis? Will os lenses still retainer image stabilization
No ibis, yes IS from lenses will work fine! Jake
The voice is too low
and i thought the perfect camera did not exist....
Considering it's price point, it's pretty damn awesome!
If only it was full frame smh
With a speedbooster you get very close FOV's to it!