Epic Little $20 Lens For Video!
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- I found a vintage video lens that costs only $20 and has ton of character!
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Industar 61 Lens on eBay: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-532...
There are several models of the Industar 61. A few things to thing about include:
Color of the lens - Comes in various silver, black, black and silver colors. Some copies have a smoother ring compared to the versions with cut outs.
Aperture ring - Some lenses have a smooth, click less aperture while others are clicked.
Focal Length - Depending on the year and run, the Industar 61 has a focal length of 50mm, 52mm or 53mm.
All Industar Lenses on eBay: rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-532...
M39 Adapter on Amazon US: geni.us/Tw9M
M39 Adapter on Amazon (International): geni.us/7eWAvB
Oil I used to loosen lens focus ring on Amazon (PAID LINK): geni.us/TLVf
Pros:
Affordable
Works with several cameras
Adapters are affordable
Lenses look great
Image quality is good for the money
Image has lots of character compared to modern lenses
Soap bubble bokeh
Swirly bokeh
Cons:
Not the sharpest lens
Slight darkening in the corners
Minimum focus distance is 1 meter
Older models may have a stuck focus ring
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Diggin' the new multi-angle setup, Caleb. Also enjoyed the phrase "knurled nubs". That can be the name of our thrash metal band.
Gerald Undone oh look! You also watch CZcams lol
Knurled Knubs make it even more epic...
It's funny how the lens which is considered crappy at home (I'm from Ukraine, those Industars are like $7-8 here on average and nobody wants them) is considered epic overseas. People are never happy with what they have.
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Sounds like a money making op for you.
@@cheeeeezewizzz I'm quite happy with my current job, thank you :)
@@alexadrianov8357 nothing wrong with a side hustle haha
Can you sent one in India
It's stupid how much I love vintage glass
It’s an addiction for sure
For anyone wondering why this wont work on your mirrored camera: The m39 mount was made back in the day for rangefinder leica 35mm cameras. The design of these cameras positions the back of the lens less than an inch away from the film. On a mirrored camera, there is extra room for the physical mirror, which essentially takes away your infinity focus and puts that range into the closer (macro) end of the spectrum. Works great on a mirrorless, though!!
New set looks great dude!
Gotta love the Zenit/KMZ/LOMO lenses.
Helios, Jupiter, Industar, Mir, Tair, etc. They all so dope and affordable!
euhhh, all sheer crap compared to the same epoch (70-80ies) japanese stuff.... hipsters like to play with 'em though, guess fancy cyrillic gives 'em hard on... instead of getting the same results with filters :-) try old 20-30€ minolta glass or yashicas (which are comparable to contax zeiss), or takumars or kirons, whatever... in my time in ex urss we had those feds and zenths with industars or helioses 'cuz we couldn't get anythin else, we dreamed about any japanese lenses or at least ddr zeiss jena ones, even pentacon would be classier= :-) any dude with nikkor-e would go for a top pro :-)))
@@andreika6681 Where do you think Russian & Japanese lens makers got their optical formulas from ?
Yep, Zeiss/Meyer/Schneider etc.
Gotta just say it now, cause it has to be said. I love your channel, Caleb. You've really helped me get back into filming, and your equipment videos cover all the things I find relevant. Thank you!
Love the new studio. Very minimal but perfect.
Another amazing vintage lens vid. We definitely share the love for these amazing little gems. Keep them coming! 🙌
Man, I really enjoy watching your videos. Very straight forward with good use of vocabulary. No unnecessary crazy dubstep in the background nor distracting visual backdrop, nice crisp focus and simple lighting. Keep it up. I wan't one fo your shirts or hats (if you have any available for sale).
Hello!
Just found this interesting video.
For those who love history, there are a few different variations of Industar 61 depending on the factory who produced them, from the early sixties till the early nineties:
KMZ factory in Krasnogorsk produced the following M42 lenses:
Industra 61-Z
Industar 61 A (with an aspherical lens)
Industar 61 M
LZOS factory in Lytkarino produced
M39 Industar 61 L
M42 Industar 61 L/Z (Л/З) (no, it's not the number "3" but the cyrillic letter equivalent to our "Z")
M42 Industar 61 L/Z MC (multicoated version of the above)
By the way the L/Z lens is a very nice lens for macro photography, with a 360° focus throw and an unsual star shaped diaphragm, but you will not be able to find it for 20$...
The FED factory in Kharkov was named after Feliks Edmundovic Dzerzhinsky (even if he was born In Belarus and yes, we are talking about the first director of NKVD. His initials appear in the logo ФЭД): could be this be one of the reasons why now people in Ukraine do not like this lens so much?
The lenses initially produced by FED were simply named Industar 61. After some time the denomination changed to Industar 61 L/D (Л/Д).
The optical scheme is a variaton of the classical Carl Zeiss' Tessar scheme with the two external lenses made with Lanthanium crown glass (Lanthanium is not radioactive) while the other two are classical Flint.
You can find many variations of focal length as well: 50-52-53-55mm, all f/2.8 with the same project resolution 44/33 lines/mm (center/border).
Diaphragm is typically with 6 blades, but you can find some early lenses with 10 blades.
Caleb, just wanted to thank you for the work you do! You fired up my interest in using vintage lenses and I learned about magic lantern from you, so having great fun with my eos m and my collection of old lenses. Needless to say I have an industar coming from Northern Ireland which has only cost me £20 off ebay! Got an adapter coming from China and that's only cost around £8.00,love this! Thanks again and keep up the great work!
I love mine! The photos that I've got out of it have been amazing.
Bro you just found some gems with this!
Great video as always. That bokeh is flipping AWESOME!
Such good deals you are finding. Really appreciate your channel. I learn so much and its so well done. Keep up the good work.
Woah those look fantastic. I'm gonna need to pick up at least one...or all of them
The shots do look very cinematic, and the bokeh is just lovely.
I've got an old Nikkor 35 1.4 that you're just going to love. I might have to get the focus ring looked at, though, it sticks when I turn it in one direction but not the other.
I really love the way your background light looks like a window is off to the right.
I already have the Helios 44,-58mm and I just bought 4 of these lenses (55, 52, 53 and 50 mm for like $78) from this channel's review. Thanks!!!! I'm a new subscriber. I appreciate what you're doing!!!!!
Thanks. I just ordered a 53mm one for $17 Shipped! Happy that I clicked your little bell!
Bam! 🛎FTW!
@@dslrvideoshooter there were even cheaper options but this seller had over 1000 5 star reviews and it looks flawless.
@@SpaghettiPaparazzi From which seller did you buy it?
@@0200Oscar seller is "bssriya" but I just checked he does not have any for sale.
I have the Industar 50-2 lens for my Fuji. It's a great little 50mm pancake lens (though it starts at F3/5). I might have to pick one of these up to add to my collection. Right now that Industar 50 is my only 50mm lens so, getting a similar focal length with a faster aperture for such a low price is appealing.
I have a couple of those Idustar, they are fun to play with!
I have got a FED 2 with industar lens on it and i love it.
Love these old vintage lenses! I guess that's because I'm vintage, too :)
As always great video nice to know I can add lenses to my collection and not cost an arm and leg!! Thank you very much!
Awesome find, great video.
I do have a love for those Industar and Jupiter and Zenit and Mir
Love your page! Thank you
Just nabbed a 55mm for just over $13 shipped. Stoked to try it out, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for these vintage lens videos. I have 2. Great little lenses.
Nice!!! Hoping to many many more videos on vintage!
Sometimes cheap doesnt mean bad quality. I really love to try out cheap stuff from time to time!
💯👍
True story.
Built like tanks. All metal and mostly Zeiss inspired optics!
Even won awards back in the day during some of the Grand Prix exhibitions (Mir/Tair).
I got a vintage Vivitar 28mm F2.8 and it was 8 bucks at the antique store lol
Industar-61 L/D, still one of my favorite lenses. So small, same for the adapter. Yet it's nice to use and produces nice pictures, especially when you stop down. I find it's quite nice for macro too with extension tubes. Great for beginners and those who appreciate the vintage characteristics. Stopped down they are certainly sharp-enough. When doing macro, i appreciate the color, sharpness and bokeh.
Haven't used it in a while though, since i need to lube the focusing ring. Might aswell try this trick. Thanks!
It's also quite radioactive :)
Hi Caleb! nice to see more vintage lens on your video. I want to see character comparison from Industar, Takumar and Helios lens in the future video~
I wish you'd make more videos on lenses for dslrs. I'm having a really hard time finding some vintage lenses for my camera, but I am having a really hard time finding them.
I love that you were in rockford!
I needed this thank you
I'm from Ukraine and your test footage looks and feels like most Ukrainian TV shows. Guess now I know why 😄
it looks good tough ahah ^^
Так выглядит cinimatec picture и в этом ее прелесть. Индустар ооочень хорош для видео, как и Гелиус 44.
This is looks like the cinimatec and its beauty. Industar sooo good for video, like Helios 44.
Greatly pleasured to see compatriot on such high quality channel
anyone please can we use it on smartphones ?
Max hahaha
I have a couple of these the 51 and a 20mm 69 after seeing this video- SO fantastic. Love using these for video much more than stills. I havent used any of my other lenses since. scary.
Wow! I just went and ordered one of these now that I know they exist. Can't wait to try it out!
I received it and wow! I don't want to shoot with anything else! Thank you for alerting me to this gem.
Finally a lens I can afford! xD
4:14 my favorite part of this video. So smooth!
I have 17 of these lens, they used to be super cheap $3-10, I have over 90 vintage lens. old lens arent as sharp as modern lens but give an artistic output which modern lens cant do.
I'll gladly take character over sharpness any day. I've noticed that only photographers with poor editing skills or heck, just poor photography skills obsess over sharpness and megapixel counts. I think it has something to do with objectiveness. Photography is a subjective thing after all but since their photography is weak as hell they'll use objective facts to measure their skills
I would super love to hear you talk about your vintage lens collection and some of your favorites. I have a few older lenses myself for digital cameras and I really want to expand my collection to add that organic element that older lenses bring to digital filmmaking.
Just ordered one for 15 bucks shipped! Amazing!
Just bought one ... I’m always spending money when I watch your videos 😂
Loved !!! 👍
Oh my gosh a fellow rockfordian! Definitely got my subscription
these are the kind of videos I need, cheap gear 😊
Great oiling tip!
i snagged an industar last month, i love that little puppy. if you ask me it's as sharp as anything.
Be careful with the oils, some of them can create a thin film of oil on the glass elements. When you use the lens in the sun the temperature can make the oil to vaporize and it is very difficult to clean it. Also if the oil escapes it can go from the helicoid to the aperture blades and they can stop working.
Also most rangefinder lenses work better on not sony cameras. Sony sensors has a fat filter glass in front of the sensor and this changes the optical performance especially on the rangefinder wider lenses. So I recommend using Canon, Panasonic and maybe Nikon mirrorless bodies for best results.
Check out Jupiter 8 and Jupiter 3 ;) they need 1 stop closing down and the image is much better than the Industar but yes they are more expensive. The Jupiter 3 can be quite expensive but it is a tiny 50 1.5...
Oh thanks! Gonna try one of these lenses for freelensing... on my old Nikon df
I have one. Great lens for video.
Bought a pack of 7 of these a couple years ago while I was filling out my Jupiter lens collection. I prefer the Jupiters, but these are fun and small. They look ridiculous on an a7r3.
Quality content!
The mount is sometimes also called LTM, or Leica thread mount.
I just purchased last month. I thought no one will find out. Lol
Which lenses have that soap-bubble bokeh? That's gorgeous!
nice find
I picked up one of these exclusively for b/w video work. It give it the noir smoky bar in the backwater of Europe look.
Great video, very cheap lenses for the quality!
Cool little lens! Would be awesome if you could do a comparison between certain vintage lenses and new cheap lenses.
I could buy one of these and search for an adapter for my m50 for instance. And buy a step-up ring for my filter.
Or buy a Meike 50 mm f2 and won't need a adapter or step up ring as the have the same filter size.
Would be so interesting to see the difference in total cost AND the difference in picture quality.
Just found this lens at a local flea market, so far love it.
Just a hint - 40.5mm isn't really akward size, quite a few Sony OEM lenses come with 40.5mm filter thread. I use my 16-50mm kit lens filter + lens cap on my Industar-61 for example ;)
Cool informative video! You made me very interested in this lens. How do you identify the ones with the clickless aperture?
Are you ever going to do a review of the a6400?
Hello Caleb, great channel and video, would you be able to tell me which Industar has the smooth aperture ring? Many Thanks.
Need that info on the table Tripod though.
I have several and find that I'm using them the most. The silk look combined with a sharp image is outstanding. Overly sharp lenses SUCK! Good review!
I got to stop watching Caleb's video's or I'm going to blow my entire production budget on these great finds!
Love your channel. What's the tripod you are using on your camera in this video?
Have no idea why you thought that industar 61 is a “Ukrainian” lens. It was USSR. It sound strange like some US citizen will call Minnesota not part of the USA =) But yes, it was made in Kharkiv in Ukranian SSR.
All optical calculation was made by famous academics in optical knowledge G. Slusarev and V. Solovola.
This lens is gorgeous! And is actually some kind of legendary. It is uses 4 lenses inside and two of them made by Lantanium crown (LaK in English, or ultraheavy Lantanium crown STK-9 in Russian nomenclature if you would say it to any PhD in optics they will be impressed anyway). I got two lens for more than 20 years, and the one is actually was used by my grand father with FED-3 rangefinder. Next generation of that camera was done for export and may be known worldwide as Revue-4.
All my best B&W and colors photos were made by FED-3 with industar-61. It have really amazing feeling and character. As for resolution, on a low ISO B&W film I got several pictures than I printed manually on a wall sized paper and it was crisp enough to watch at a close distance (at 30 cm/76 inches). Better results can only be archived using 120 type film on a midsized 6x6 or 6x9 low ISO b&w film (which was gorgeous on a wall sized paper prints and was crisp enoght to watch from 10cm/25 inches and to see the whole picture you need to step backwards at list 5 steps :))) ).
Not sure if any full frame 36x24 digital DSLR or mirrorless can get such a giant pictures (its a pity I didn’t have a opportunity to check for a wallsized print from super high resolution DSLR like sony or latest canon 5d).
So my IMHO even if industar-61 doesn’t have very high MTF it is still good for a high resolution photo. For a video use I prefer Angenieux optimo, it was love at first sight, instant feature film look in any situation worked with it on red one mx in 2010, but I (as well as 99% of video industry guys) cannot afford to own it (as well as red camera). But for a low budget filmmaking -industar is a way to go for sure. I use it on Micro Four Thirds Panasonic gh1/gx7 and got 100mm kind of portrait lens as well as “normal” lens on a 135 type film rangefinder. It’s funny but for my taste it looks much sharper on a 135 film than on any digital camera (tried it on full frame as well), and no film grain scans cannot emulate this “resolution” with its “pliability”.
burtonfzz You seem to know quite a bit about film photography, so I was wondering if you have any recommendations for a good rangefinder setup for around $100-$300 USD?
burtonfzz You seem to know quite a bit about film photography, so I was wondering if you have any recommendations for a good rangefinder setup for around $100-$300 USD?
Quigus hello there. Its a pity, but I can ONLY recommend ussr type of stuff, because I never used Europian or US foto stuff in film-era.
I teached film photography for young pioneers in pioneer camp (which was not pioneer camp and they where not pioneers because it was in 90th and it was Russia, but summer camp still existed for that time period)
Of course FED-3 rangefinder (I prefer the one with trigger for sliding film shots for the next one also there was the one with round dial to forward the film). I saw many of them, they all works perfectly in any case (mine was fallen down from the third flood to asphalt and it only got minor bend on the outside of the filters mount, and no other cosmetic or mechanical issues, works for almost twenty years since then and who knows, what happen before me :) ).
Originally FED rangefinders was some kind of copy from Leica rangefinders (pronounced as “LIKE-Ah”). Industar lens also got some common ideas from Leica as well, but was not a clear copy. So, you could get almost Leica from USSR if prefer FED or its export version mentioned previously. Works great, no light leaks, lens are great as well. The only restriction and the one that makes it much exciter - is “normal” ~50mm lens design. So for FED-3 it will be industar 61 :) that is simple. Also you could attach any m39 mound lens to rangefinder without visual composing and focusing (but for focusing you could use markers on a lens) and just point and shoot and wonder what will be after film process:) done it several times with “TAIR” USSR telephoto lens and got a picture of a squirrel on a tree on my FED without viewfinder and focusing using marks. Also you can purchase external viewfinder turret and use compatible m39 lens if you are really rangefinder fan.
Also great advantage of getting FED-3 it very nice leather case with “ФЭД/FED 3” logo and amazing leather smell! Mine still smells like any photo product should smell in the first place - leather and aluminium and a bit grease and chemical smell from film =)
Also I would like to consider buying very basic “smena-8m” or “СМЕНА-8М», which was one of the cheapest rangefinder in USSR (also lens was hardly attached to camera body). It is strange camera, but got very strange and nice retro photos out of the box. I actually really likes the way it shoot and picture in the end. It was main camera that we used for pioneers photo classes - simple as a hammer. Also highly recommendable is Smena-35, its late 90th product, a bit plastic case like a toy camera, but (dont know how) got incredible color on a simple Kodak Gold film and on a Fuji film from 90th. Got it for summer vacation because forget to take FED, and was really impressed with picture quality at the end.
Also can recommend Zenith-3M as a really nice SLR without known Zenith issues (the curtain stuck inside or broken right in the middle of the shoot, literally hated Zenith for that, and despite other Zenith SLRs - The Zenith 3M works flawlessly!) but it is classic SLR.
P.S. never used photoexponometer (light meter) with FED/smena/zenith 3m and 95% of pictures was great, even with external flash, but for a really complex portrait indoors I used Zenith SLR with build-in light meter for precise skin tone control. One I got the whole film indoor without any usable photo without light meter, so it can be tricky. Nowadays you can attach industar-61 to digital mirrorless camera, get test picture with perfect exposure and set the same exposure setting into film camera :) if you dont attach industar62 to digital camera keep in mind that T-stops on aperture and F-stops may differ, and if you get F2,8 on two different lens it does not mean they actually transmit the same amount of light so exposure may vary. You can watch youtube for all exposure stuff as well :) if you are not sure how to exposure properly, you could find FED-5 on ebay as well, but exposure is easy, ones you get the basics.
Cheers! Hope you got what you really want and need!
Bro Pike you're like a GOD on CZcams I got my cameras and knowledge from you and others in this line of work love my GH4 and lenses thanks to you 🙏
Haha! I don't know about that! Glad you're enjoying the content!
Absolute godsend this channel!
Would it work with a m39 to EF with a metabones speedbooster you think? Wonder if the speedbooster would introduce vignetting.
are these "micro four third's" lenses? Awesome!! I'm going to try these on my Blackmagic 4K thanks fort the hip tip*
What about an L mount converter for the panasonic s1? Any chance we get that?
i saw you have there jupiter 8. its really nice old lens with creamy bokeh and at 2,8 or 4 it is amazing sharp.
How do you figure this out? Thanks. Is there anything similar price/adaptability-ness for that's really wide and fast?
Would you say any model gave more soap bubble bokeh? Or do they all do that noticably? I thought the effect in your example footage with the pin lights was just gorgeous. Would love to get a lens that does that.
I bought a cheap m39-m43 adapter, it won't focus to infinity. Which cheap adapter will you recommend?
Help Caleb.. so I’m thinking about the Industar 61 to my 70D or T7i. So I need an M39 to EF Adapter, correct? This is confusing! Thanks!
Hi, great video. I'm guessing these can't be used on DSLRs because of phalange distance?
Yeah some of these old FSU lenses were based off classic zeiss optics. Look up the Jupiter series, J3, J8, J9, J12, all fantastic. The industars came in a few varieties. A 3.5 rigid, a 3.5 retractable, and the versions you featured. I could be wrong but the first 2 digits of your serial denote the year they were made. You should check out the LOMO TRIPLET T-43 4/40 ...
Any idea if there are any wide angle vintage lenses good for APS-C? It seems like the majority of them are 24mm+, but I would love an 18 or 16 to add to my collection.
These look really cool! I only own a Canon 500D, but there appear to be M39 mounts for it - is there any reason why this wouldn't work?
Every time I watch one of your videos, I end up buying something
Thanks for another gem Caleb! Any problems with the infinity focus? Seems like having that problem on adapting these manual vintages to my GH3, the Helios and the Auto-110 all have problem getting focus at infinity?
I have problems with infinity focus with my Mir 1b. I found that cranking down the aperture helped a lot
Hey Caleb, have you ever thought about doing an entire episode replacing your whole equipment with cheap counterparts? Like using an eos m with inexpensive vintage lens as your main camera, work lights or stuff like that?
Super I adore it
Got it, wish i could use it on the ursa
I'm getting back into photography and have a Nikon D3100. Will this lens work on it? I know I'll probably need to get a converter of some kind. Thanks in advance for your, and anyone else's advice.
I already have the Helios 44M4, do I need this one?
I was able to use m42 lenses on my X-T3.
Need some training : no electronic, only manual settings !
I believe the optical design is a Tessar derivative.
Hello Caleb, can this adapter from B and H work with those lenses?
FotodioX Pro Lens Mount Adapter for Visoflex M39 Lens to Nikon F Mount Camera.
Have you managed to use these on an iPhone? What sort of adapter would you use?
Glad i got this video recommended, i have a question, to use these on a Crop sensor, sony/minolta A-mount (to be specific, a Sony SLT-A33), is that possible at all? With my girlfriend being russian, i may be able to pick these up even cheaper once i visit her family again. Please be kind, still a freshman in terms of photography/video.
Hey Caleb! Awesome videos thank you! What's the tripod on that table you have there?
I think its the iFootage Cobra monopod feet with a manfrotto fluid head.
Small question, dont know if its been said here already. If so, im sorry. But for EF mount of Nikon F mount, cant you just get a m39 to m42 ring and then m42 to required mount adapter?
I've seen a M39 to Nikon F mount on amazon.... but most reviews say its mainly going to work for Macro photography. Is this why you ruled it out in your video?