Carry On Heckling: Steve Peat's Battle of the Wheel Sizes
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2023
- Watch mountain bike legend Steve Peat take two (almost) identical Hecklers out for a day of timed hot-laps in Wharncliffe Woods. Peaty vs Peaty, MX vs 29”. Which is faster? Let's find out!
Also, just because Steve has retired from racing it doesn’t mean he’s slowed down.
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I recently switched from a mullet to a full 29er and everything Peaty said about the wheel size is 100% accurate! Spot on you legend! :)
Prime testing location 👑👌
He's quite fast, he should try racing
Steve, well done. Great test comparison and as always great style!
Just bought a mx, cannot wait to ride it! Great video!
Quality video ! So many similar videos kicking around doing comparisons however there's special credibility about Peaty Dog that makes every second worth watching . Class guys
The new Heckler has a nine-pound 720 battery. I got the MX because it made it less torturous to unweight that heavy front end, manual, etc.
Right trails there 🤘🤘🤘
I feel like Santa Cruz puts too much emphasis on speed. They currently don't have a single 27.5 bike in their lineup, which unfortunately has pushed them off my short list. Personally, I don't care about speed. I'm just looking for something that's fun at the bike park, and 29 is just too big for me, especially since I'm a shorter rider at 5'7.
Same!! I do not want 29" wheels anywhere on my bike because A: I'm 5'9" and it looks ridiculous, B: I'm not fast enough to feel or want any benefit of a 29" wheel and I don't race and C: I want a more playful bike for just messing about on. I'm struggling to find any full 27.5 eMTB long travel, high battery capacity bikes anywhere. MTB manufacturers really need to understand that not everyone races or wants to squash/roll over everything to gain a couple of tenths of a second.
@@StreetPete i hated my 29 wheels but i then hired a mullet orange switch 7 and i loooooved it, 29 is great on the front and makes it feel more stable and the 27.5 on the rear made it way more play full then my full 29, the 29 up front does not make it feel any less play full and in fact it made me into a different animal and my speed was insanely faster cos i felt safe and stable and the roll over was nice but the play full rear gave me confidence in the corners which i didn't like with a full 29, but 29 upfront made it less twitchy giving me more confidence to go much MUCH faster and the 27.5 rear giving me much MUCH more confidence in taking corners with speed and jumping on a mullet wow, i couldn't keep the bike on the ground and cos of the lower back and higher front makes it much easier to pick up the front so 29 upfront makes the bike way more play full then then even a 26 which is may older bike, i skipped the 27.5 and the new mullets are the most play full bikes i have ever riden in my life. If you live in england go to the forest of dean and hire a orange switch 7 bike for £60 for the day. I'm 6'4" i hired the L i hate XL and prefer bikes slightly too small cos i am a free rider at heart not a comfort rider and wow i have fallen in love with the 29/27.5 mullet
@@yhoda145 Hiya, thank for the info, I live close to the Forest Of Dean actually. I have ridden 29" bikes but they just don't work for me, I like hopping about on the front wheel and manuals and wheelies and all sorts of playing about like that and 29" just doesn't suit me, my riding style or my height, neither does slacker bikes. I guess I'm stuck with the Cube Stereo 160 bikes for now because they are still 27.5 front and rear and they're not too slack at all. I just don't get in with the steering lock in the headset of the '22 & '23 Cubes.
27.5 for me in Wharncliffe deffo ,on the slab run I was 5th last time I checked ,must try harder 😅
Complimenti molto interessante!
Se posso chiedere...è possibile montare la 29 al'anteriore sul modello 2020 mantenendo 160 di escursione?
Grazie
I want to buy a new full suspension eMTB but can't find any 27.5 front and rear bikes that have the Bosch 750wh and also have 160mm rear travel and 170mm front travel. Any ideas?
MX is the ticket makes sense especially on a ebike. Get some 155mm cranks and your set
Front tyre on the 29" Is dhr2 new version? Sorry for my bad english...
I love my santa cruz bullit mx lavender
Is not which is fastest, but what is used for steep climbs for downhills and obstacles. I do a lot of climbing with my bullit cc and tire skipt more often than my yeti 160E fully 29er
Both will be in the shop waiting for a motor in no time
@3:38 I don't understand what Steve means about having more pedal clearance on a 29er give both bikes are designed for same BB height.
I'm looking to buy the mx in Grey. Any links to best prices? Also would love to see more of Peaty riding with Danny macaskill ... also just renovating a stone cottage in the lakes, so when it's done I'll have a spare room to Airbnb for riders.
Prices vary depending on country. Check out the Heckler page for MSRPs and then slide over to the link to find your local dealer. www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-GB/bikes/heckler
I am 178cm and my legs are 85cm and i dont know if i should go vor a M oder L Frame? Can you give me an advice pls?
Lad, you looked faster and more lively on the MX. Couldn’t agree more with your assessment and not just at Wharny. But then I’m biased on my Bullit 😉
Really nice video and Steve's a legend... but the comparison is pretty irrelevant :) I have a full 29" bike where I can ajust the length of my rear, so the bike is very different (and favors different tracks) with the same weel size, and the differences are very consistent with what Steve is describing that is "weelsize specific" :) From my point of view, it's a shame that Santacruz opted for a longer rear on the 29 version, I love my 29" bike with the shorter rear, so I will look for a different brand full 29" bike ;) Steve's rideing racing style is incredible !!! very nice video :D
A longer rear end also has advantages for ascending on ebikes. Peaty didn't cover it in this episode but when you have that extra power and you're winching up things it also helps to have a longer lever.
@@santacruzbicycles2841 Thanks for de the reply, it made me rewatch Steve's riding again ! :D you are right, but... :) My complaint "between the lines", was not about the different well sizes "battle", it was about the Geometry of the 29" version and that was not as geard for technical descends and Fun as the MX version, the 29" geometry leans more on comfort and as you say maybe towards climbing. E-bikes, because they are heavier, the advantages of a 29": extra grip, floating over bumps and carrying more speed... are more important than for a normal bike, so I am looking forward seeing a 29" Ebike from SC with a geometry focused on descending and Fun, I am sure I not the only one and know is only a matter of time :D
What are the name of his glasses?
What size frame is Peaty on here?
27.5 is for pure bmx type fun, mullet is for playful riders/tracks and 29 is for plowing over stuff. It all has its place, although unfortunatly 27.5 is quickly disappearing..
The old guy has no idea he’s talking to a 9 time world champion DH racer😂
It's cool to see Peaty's products on the bikes even though SC make their own competing products 👍To me that says Santa Cruz care more about their/the rider fist, rather than just advertising and selling new products 👌
They’ve probably got a stake in it
What about a 27.5 both front and back ?
This is what a lot of people want but MTB manufacturers seem to think everyone who buys a bike is going racing every weekend.
@@StreetPete I just bought a full power kenevo with 27.5 and has a dual crown fork! It’s like riding my 2008 cove peeler down hill but can pedal it back up! Lol
@@worldstallestmidget they are actually an option for me, maybe, I do prefer the Bosch system over the Shimano though.
If only my pockets were deep enough!
Too expensive for me and probably 99% of the rest of the population. 😂
26 back 29 front
Why did he say the 29'er has more pedal clearance than the mullet version? The geometry chart shows they are both have the same BB height. Did he unknowingly have the 29'er in high mode and the mullet in low, have more sag on the mullet, different crank lengths, or is the geometry chart not accurate?
I was wondering that as well. They should have the same pedal clearance.
On FLAT ground the same.
If the rear is rolling over an obstacle its LESS clearance, less tyre diameter
@@janeblogs324 That only happens in a very specific scenario, when the rear wheel is going to contact an obstacle at the same time that the pedal is going to line up in the right cadence with another obstacle near the bottom of it's stroke, and only when the obstacle is lower than the slight difference in contact that the 29" wheel has will it clear the obstacle when the 27.5" wheel would not. That doesn't even seem worth mentioning if that's what he's talking about. Knowing the bike industry, I think it's more likely one of the other variables. It could even be he has a 29" rear triangle on his mullet and doesn't know it, or the mullet rear doesn't actually achieve the same BB height as claimed. The mountain bike industry has a pretty bad track record with precision.
What about 27.5/ 27.5
27.5 is the best
Agreed ... Unfortunately they abandoned 27.5 and don't have a single one in their lineup. Santa Cruz is obsessed with speed, but neglected both shorter riders and people who are looking for something more playful they can take to the bike park. Even the 5010 and Nomad no longer have it, which I know has upset a lot of people. Their marketing claims to "have a bike for everybody" but that's certainly not the case, as they've alienated a good percentage of riders but insisting to shove MX down our throats ... Which btw nobody asked for. I visit a lot of different bike parks, and I can count on one hand the number of mullets I've seen out there.
Sounds like small man syndrome . Just do MX and stop your whining
nah 26 is
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Peaty was sandbagging it on the 29er…
Peaty never sandbags.
Santa Cruz turned me off with the extremely heavyweight design and the monstrous Down Tube on their bikes. I get we are trying to stuff fifteen ham sandwiches inside the bike for the COVID bike converts but please that down tube looks ridiculous.
So like Can I have one? 😅
czcams.com/video/ZIDOR6GuGBY/video.html not quite the same level of production!
SOOOOO no time difference, lol
Steve get us a bike dude,been riding as long as you and been following u since u started,I'm never going to be able to buy one of these things gs and by christ do I need one. 52 and well turned into a coal burning chugger up even the smallest hill now,I'm in n Wales,built a lovely little track here,prob less than a minute but a brutal 8 min climb up so can only do a few runs and I'm fucked. Hook us up with a bike son,you and Warner have made my life of biking what it is.