Bryan Greenberg of Jupiter says he corked bats for baseball star Pete Rose in the 80s when Rose played for the Montreal Expos and gives a deomstration.
Yeah, they all believed this dumb notion that it gave them magical powers and balls would “explode off the barrel” and it’d be so light a baby could swing it etc. lol
Little peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Pete sanded the hitting surface of his bats flat the year he broke DiMagio's hit record then MLB changed rules to prohibit it. At the time it was perfectly legal in the sport though.. Despite everything anyone who ever watched Pete Rose play the game on a daily basis knows nobody played with as much ferocity than Pete Rose. They guy would run into a burning building to score runs..
Can someone please explain to me how cork improves a bats performance? Does it really matter if its corked or not? The ball only makes contact for a millisecond and it's only hitting the outside of the bat which is wood so not sure how it effects the ball. I'm just not understanding the physics behind it is all.
From what I've read, cork was thought to make the ball go further. In actuality, being a good absorbent of force and making the ball travel less distance?
It creates more of a bounce when hitting the ball because even tho its not hollowed, it does feel like it is because the center is still lighter then the wood surrounding it. So instead of a solid crack, you do feel a slight bounce off.
Corked a few in the 80s, but never for pros....used a toolroom lathe and a steady rest, then packed powdered cork and the dowel as a plug. Never believed it made a difference in beer league play, but there is a psychological advantage. We believed that you had to turn the label away from the ball, or your bat might break...lots of myths....
Mythbusters did an episode that proved your theory correct. Corking the bat in fact made it overall less effective. It might be faster, thus in theory making it easier to make contact, but the trade off is it actually makes the ball travel less distance, which could easily could cause a double become a single or an out or a home run become a fly out. A player is in fact better off using a lighter bat than corking it if they were trying to get on base via a single or double.
YES YES YES .. You are the only other person I seen that knows the real way... Your supposed to grind the cork up to about the size of bbs.. and pack it tight in the bat.
Faster bat speed...let’s you wait a split second longer to see a pitch. More accurate swing. Not for power. I’ve read people who have his old bats had them x rayed and they were corked
@@pmac7113 that argument is bullshit. All you need is a lighter bat for speed because Pete wasnt a HR hitter. And corked bats have been proven to do nothing but be a placebo
I'm pretty sure you'd be wrong on that. The impact is going to be on the side of the disc (or, in your case, rod) of cork. So the compression and expansion shouldn't be any different. If it were being used like a cue stick, I would agree with your logic. But either of us could be wrong, the only way would be to test it out, which neither of us is likely to do. ☺️
There's a video that talks about how when MLB cracked down hard on sticky fingers, there was a very sharp increase in batters getting hit. Once they got bored of enforcing it and stopped checking as thoroughly, people began to have better control of the ball and were less likely to accidentally crack skulls. So, officially, it is cheating, but it's cheating in a way that keeps players safe. Which is kind of a good thing. 😜 Anyway, the point is that there's worse things to worry about than sticky fingers.
I played with this too I took my cork and ground it up to about the size of #4 turkey shot, and packed it . This worked better than the method here.. objectively.. But the best one I made was with the ground up cork , but about 3/4 inch from the top, I put lead in... Then capped off with a thin peice of dowel.. That think was a hammer, reminded me of the old c core aluminum bats without the ping.. I think if you mixed the ground up cork with the right amount of wood glue, and corked it that way, you'd get all the advantages, but with a lot less risk of a break...never tested that theory, but I think it would work.. I know this, ground up cork is the way to go... Not ground to a fine powder, but about the size of a bb..
Pete told Vlad tv that he used corked bats in batting practice for extra confidence, what?? What is the great leap to think he actually used them in games then???
@@brandonsims3339 If you're a moron it's a good comment. Imagine being a father and teaching your kids that if you lose it means the other person cheated. This generation is a disgrace
Bullshit. Hustle was a ground ball hitter and legged out anything in the air. This guy's a corker but I seriously doubt Rose did that even when he got older. Like he said those Mizuno bats were hard af already
@@deathninja16 Actually, I do, and I think this is a joke, too. Yes, all that glue, and Rose doctored his bats for years - I understand Rose has lost a lot of credibility over the years (earned), but there are some pretty small critics out there, too. Nice of the "former clubbie" to come out of the - ahem - "woodwork" 36 years later with this great tale.
You'd think the guy that made a video to test the difference between corked and uncorked would have watched this video to see how it's really done... The one I saw drilled a hole in the bat and then drilled into a block of cork and put the powder in and then used wood glue. No compression at all. And then he couldn't even swing the bat so I went ahead and stopped watching halfway through 😂😂😂😂
It's baseball, you steal signs you steal bases, you cheat its always been part of the game and its in the baseball players nature going way back to the beginning i dont look at Pete any less for this yes its likely he probably did it but he wa still the best hitter without it. Who cares he should still be in the Hall of Fame
@@Andy-ph6mf on account of you being an idiot comply missed point, faster swing/less mass = slower swing/greater mass. And even that, the amount of weight they shed is not noticeable, stick a gum to the end of the bat and pick it up and see if you can tell the differance with gum and without.
This guy is lying. Pete Rose was a hard worker. He had his faults and issues but still deserves to be in the hall. He never corked his bat. Do you really believe this guy?
Your right Pete Rose himself never corked his own bats he had someone else do it for him. I do agree with you on the point that Pete Rose was a hard worker and that we all have our own faults.
Corked bats or not, I do not like Pete Rose. He lied about gambling on baseball for years and had the nerve to sue baseball when he was issued a lifetime ban. NO PLAYER, even 'Charlie Hustle' is above the game.
What are you saying. We literally have apps for gambling on sports. Baseball has had these as sponsors. It’s not like he bet against his team. Or cheated his way to a World Series or paid the other team to lose on purpose (not Joe Jackson obviously). Or took drugs that increased your physical ability.
I used to be more on the fence about him, but one day I actually got to meet him! Plus, he really is a down to earth guy who loves baseball - just as his sports analysis program appearances would show. I like him now. Great player and coach and really respects the game. He gambled ON (not against) his team, and voluntarily put himself on the banned players list. However, when a few years later it was decided that all players on that list should be restricted from the hall of fame forever, he was up in arms and sued. Of course. Wouldn't you? He didn't know he was 'agreeing' to HOF ineligibility. But I think that was MLB's plan from the beginning. They did him dirty, and that's not right.
@jeff afe Lol no. Cheating doesn't help at all if you suck. You have to have at least a little talent to use cheating to your advantage. Rose was a GREAT hitter. So any "cheating" would have just given him MORE of an edge. But he only bet ON himself & his team, never the other way around. I say that should be legal!
Everyone used corked bats during those days.
Yea...it was ok back then also for Babe Ruth!
Baseball idiots: "We didn't cheat". Team gets caught cheating..... "Well, everybody cheats"
And 90% of people took some sort of steroids or Greenies
Yeah, they all believed this dumb notion that it gave them magical powers and balls would “explode off the barrel” and it’d be so light a baby could swing it etc. lol
Yep and it was still less effective
Pete Rose didn't NEED to cork his bats! This story is just that: A STORY!!!!!
You can tell he's Canadian by the way he quickly said "I'm sorry" after making a minor mistake
Tbh- Idgaf!! Pete Rose deserves to be in Hall of Fame and until he's there the HOF is complete bullspit 💯
He is absolutely going in. Posthumously unfortunately. I just spread my cousin and tournament in fishing partner! I’ll get everything real skinny
Had he not admitted to a relationship with a minor I think he’d be in, that’s what’s really keeping him out
He probably corked Gretzky's hockey sticks too.
He is full of crap
corked bat for a singles hitter, gthoh.
I wonder what sort of technology is being used with the modern big leaguer bats. Lots of HR being hit nowadays.
Looks like he’s done this a few times before lol
I'd heard about this when he was playing back in the 1970s
Little peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Pete sanded the hitting surface of his bats flat the year he broke DiMagio's hit record then MLB changed rules to prohibit it. At the time it was perfectly legal in the sport though.. Despite everything anyone who ever watched Pete Rose play the game on a daily basis knows nobody played with as much ferocity than Pete Rose. They guy would run into a burning building to score runs..
It was Ty Cobb's hit record, fool.😂
He would also run into a burning building to have relations with a 14 year old.🙄
He won't get into the hall of fame until he's ded 😂
Or until the right powers that are keeping him out are...
Can someone please explain to me how cork improves a bats performance? Does it really matter if its corked or not? The ball only makes contact for a millisecond and it's only hitting the outside of the bat which is wood so not sure how it effects the ball. I'm just not understanding the physics behind it is all.
From what I've read, cork was thought to make the ball go further. In actuality, being a good absorbent of force and making the ball travel less distance?
The bat is lighter, increasing bat speed.
It creates more of a bounce when hitting the ball because even tho its not hollowed, it does feel like it is because the center is still lighter then the wood surrounding it. So instead of a solid crack, you do feel a slight bounce off.
He is using harder dense wood on the outside.. But soft lighter cork on the inside. SO it's a harder more dense bat at a higher speed.
Being illegal because it makes the bat lighter makes no f-cking sense to me. So what if the bat is lighter.
He didn't have a problem corky bats then,but now he wants to be a snitch
Who cares?
So?
Right? It's just slimy for some reason. I guess you have to be stand up to notice it.
Good. He should snitch. Cheating is not cool.
@@DarthTwilight so I guess you're a little snitch yourself that's why you can relate
Corked a few in the 80s, but never for pros....used a toolroom lathe and a steady rest, then packed powdered cork and the dowel as a plug. Never believed it made a difference in beer league play, but there is a psychological advantage. We believed that you had to turn the label away from the ball, or your bat might break...lots of myths....
Mythbusters did an episode that proved your theory correct. Corking the bat in fact made it overall less effective. It might be faster, thus in theory making it easier to make contact, but the trade off is it actually makes the ball travel less distance, which could easily could cause a double become a single or an out or a home run become a fly out. A player is in fact better off using a lighter bat than corking it if they were trying to get on base via a single or double.
@@squirrelguy2195 myth busters tests are usually unscientific at best and a complete joke at worst. Properly corking a bat is effective.
YES YES YES ..
You are the only other person I seen that knows the real way... Your supposed to grind the cork up to about the size of bbs.. and pack it tight in the bat.
why would a singles hitter cork a bat?
Faster bat speed...let’s you wait a split second longer to see a pitch. More accurate swing. Not for power. I’ve read people who have his old bats had them x rayed and they were corked
If anything I think a corked bat would be more useful for a singles hitter than a long ball hitter.
Pete was 45 years old when he played his final game in the majors. I'm sure he wanted every advantage he could get to SLOW DOWN Father Time.
wouldnt that be a reason to use one, you're kinda dumb m8
@@pmac7113 that argument is bullshit. All you need is a lighter bat for speed because Pete wasnt a HR hitter. And corked bats have been proven to do nothing but be a placebo
I just cut my Pete rose fame used bat....and its NOT corked!
Hahahahahahahahaha
That too bad. Maybe an exray machine
you got a fake
Very informative video but #stopsnitchin
Ash, oak are what they would have been made of in those days
It was wayyyyy better to use one solid piece or even 2-3 bigger glued pieces…. A bunch of little cork discs glued together wouldn’t work as well.
I'm pretty sure you'd be wrong on that. The impact is going to be on the side of the disc (or, in your case, rod) of cork. So the compression and expansion shouldn't be any different. If it were being used like a cue stick, I would agree with your logic. But either of us could be wrong, the only way would be to test it out, which neither of us is likely to do. ☺️
If pitchers can use material to better grip the ball and create deception. Batters should be able to cork it’s only fair 😂
There's a video that talks about how when MLB cracked down hard on sticky fingers, there was a very sharp increase in batters getting hit. Once they got bored of enforcing it and stopped checking as thoroughly, people began to have better control of the ball and were less likely to accidentally crack skulls. So, officially, it is cheating, but it's cheating in a way that keeps players safe. Which is kind of a good thing. 😜 Anyway, the point is that there's worse things to worry about than sticky fingers.
I played with this too
I took my cork and ground it up to about the size of #4 turkey shot, and packed it .
This worked better than the method here.. objectively..
But the best one I made was with the ground up cork , but about 3/4 inch from the top, I put lead in... Then capped off with a thin peice of dowel..
That think was a hammer, reminded me of the old c core aluminum bats without the ping..
I think if you mixed the ground up cork with the right amount of wood glue, and corked it that way, you'd get all the advantages, but with a lot less risk of a break...never tested that theory, but I think it would work..
I know this, ground up cork is the way to go... Not ground to a fine powder, but about the size of a bb..
If your not cheating in baseball your not trying. Cheating is part of the sport of baseball.
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Tip use a hard wood for your bats
0:05 those have got to be some of the shortest/stubbiest fingers I've seen on an adult.
It's his line of work I have a older family member that has fingers like that
@@trevorhubbard6416 but how is that beneficial to baseball? I was talking about Pete Rose btw
Pete told Vlad tv that he used corked bats in batting practice for extra confidence, what?? What is the great leap to think he actually used them in games then???
STOP SNITCHING ⚾️😂
just use a bat entirely made out of cork
What does a corked bat do I don't get whats wrong with that.
Probably counted votes for Joe Biden too
hahahaha best comment yet!!!
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Jesus christ you guys are sad af
@@brandonsims3339 If you're a moron it's a good comment. Imagine being a father and teaching your kids that if you lose it means the other person cheated. This generation is a disgrace
@@el34glo59 but what way did I go????
Sure he did.
Bullshit.
Hustle was a ground ball hitter and legged out anything in the air. This guy's a corker but I seriously doubt Rose did that even when he got older. Like he said those Mizuno bats were hard af already
Imagine talking proudly of your lack of integrity.
Integrity means following through on your word. Not the right use here.
Never happened. This guy is a joke.
You don't watch documentaries that often do you?
@@deathninja16 Actually, I do, and I think this is a joke, too. Yes, all that glue, and Rose doctored his bats for years - I understand Rose has lost a lot of credibility over the years (earned), but there are some pretty small critics out there, too. Nice of the "former clubbie" to come out of the - ahem - "woodwork" 36 years later with this great tale.
Your names the real joke lmao what a loser
Yes it did It was actually written about from a Cincinnati sports writer
Denial is a powerful drug... Rose was sort of a piece of shit
No hall of fame for you
And still he could only hit singles
But lots of them
You'd think the guy that made a video to test the difference between corked and uncorked would have watched this video to see how it's really done... The one I saw drilled a hole in the bat and then drilled into a block of cork and put the powder in and then used wood glue. No compression at all. And then he couldn't even swing the bat so I went ahead and stopped watching halfway through 😂😂😂😂
Im sure Pete just used them for bp. He doesnt seem like a rule breaker to me.
Same with Sammy Sosa. If it weren't for that damn kid mixing up the bats... 🤣
It's baseball, you steal signs you steal bases, you cheat its always been part of the game and its in the baseball players nature going way back to the beginning i dont look at Pete any less for this yes its likely he probably did it but he wa still the best hitter without it. Who cares he should still be in the Hall of Fame
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Yeah, like for sure man! Never got caught once either. Never broke a bat that you corked for him. Totally for sure! 🙄
Shame on you.
Not the least bit surprised that Rose would do this.
Must be a Bonds fan.💩💩
Who is Pete Rose? Did he play recently
Yeah, right. BS...
snitch
what's the point tho? that much, I don't see how it could make a difference, it's not like the bat becomes carbon fiber all of a sudden
You don't understand the point of corking a bat?
@@Ryan40272 yes
@@xFlow777 quicker swing, you not being able to see something on account of low iq means nothing
@@Andy-ph6mf on account of you being an idiot comply missed point, faster swing/less mass = slower swing/greater mass. And even that, the amount of weight they shed is not noticeable, stick a gum to the end of the bat and pick it up and see if you can tell the differance with gum and without.
@@xFlow777 It's not just quicker swing. It's causes a bounce effect off the bat
Pete Rose was the greatest ballplayer I ever saw in my lifetime, but I must admit this is a little disappointing...😪
This guy is lying. Pete Rose was a hard worker. He had his faults and issues but still deserves to be in the hall. He never corked his bat. Do you really believe this guy?
Uhhhhh kinda. Everyone found a way to have an advantage. People do it to this day. Pitchers use illegal substances with no repercussion.
Your right Pete Rose himself never corked his own bats he had someone else do it for him. I do agree with you on the point that Pete Rose was a hard worker and that we all have our own faults.
When Pete finds this video somebody is gonna get hurt or killed.
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@@kingcassius2586 you're ??????
Corked bats or not, I do not like Pete Rose. He lied about gambling on baseball for years and had the nerve to sue baseball when he was issued a lifetime ban. NO PLAYER, even 'Charlie Hustle' is above the game.
Meanwhile Bonds and McGuire are still held as heros by Pete haters 🙄
What are you saying. We literally have apps for gambling on sports. Baseball has had these as sponsors. It’s not like he bet against his team. Or cheated his way to a World Series or paid the other team to lose on purpose (not Joe Jackson obviously). Or took drugs that increased your physical ability.
I used to be more on the fence about him, but one day I actually got to meet him! Plus, he really is a down to earth guy who loves baseball - just as his sports analysis program appearances would show. I like him now.
Great player and coach and really respects the game. He gambled ON (not against) his team, and voluntarily put himself on the banned players list. However, when a few years later it was decided that all players on that list should be restricted from the hall of fame forever, he was up in arms and sued. Of course. Wouldn't you?
He didn't know he was 'agreeing' to HOF ineligibility. But I think that was MLB's plan from the beginning. They did him dirty, and that's not right.
@jeff afe Lol no. Cheating doesn't help at all if you suck. You have to have at least a little talent to use cheating to your advantage.
Rose was a GREAT hitter. So any "cheating" would have just given him MORE of an edge. But he only bet ON himself & his team, never the other way around. I say that should be legal!
FO
Oh wow! This is boring.