Pacquiao won that fight, hands down. I had a friend who was lucky enough to be ring side a few rows back. He is a MMA fan, so is unbias. He just like 98% of the world felt Manny won. Not only won, but won convincingly.
Pacqaio won 9 decisive rounds and bradley only won 1 decisive round. Meaning if you give the remaining rounds to Bradley, it would still be impossible for him to win. If you can't see that, then you shouldn't even give an opinion about anything in boxing.
The way boxing is scored is ridiculous, it should be scored by punches landed or something like that, they have the stats directly after the fight, it would take the stupid decisions out of it
graham o'riordan do you realize that those punch stats and Compu box numbers are done by a human sitting there clicking a button to what punches he or she believes lands. Do not judge a fight on punch stats.
For those that say Pac didn't do enough to win don't understand that Bradley was running after the 5th round or whenever he sprained his ankles. Pac was forced to make the whole fight because Bradley wouldn't/couldn't initiate offense. Pac was the champ and it was incumbent on Bradley to be the aggressor and take the fight. Bradley's inefficiency is more damning because he was the challenger and not only did he not make the fight, Pacquiao had to carry the fight.
Two judges were over 70....haha! Eye sight and coordination had to be a factor in their judging. Bradley was so slow they caught all his swings..."Ring general-ship". Lol! I guess that was his plan.
Pacquiao got robbed 3 times in America. 1st against Agipito Sanchez that fight shouldn't be a draw Pac should won it via disqualification. 2nd against Marquez the first fight 1 of the judge score 10-7 instead of 10-6 Pac drop Marquez 3 times in the first fight. That fight is not even close and they give it a draw. 3rd is against Bradley lol only a idiot would think that fight is close. Bradley is not doing anything and he still won. I am not surprised if Pacquiao would lose to Floyd via robbery. If Pacquiao wants to beat Floyd He needs to punish Floyd, he needs to stop Floyd.
The most hurtful victory for Bradley.Everyone who messed up with Pacman on this fight will be remembered and booed forever. CJ Ross,Duane Ford ,Roth and Arum.
@@mathieufredette3157 Yeah it's rare. He also disagree of Floyds 50-0. Because he knew that McGregor wasn't a real boxer and first time to step the boxing ring. But for the record a FAKED record just to surpass Rocky Marciano's record to say that his really great, they count it hahaha🤣
Stephen a. hit the bulls eye.. There should be government authority involved in the sport.. As these boxers put so much on the line, including their lives, not to mention, some even died in the sport. So they have the right to have everything fair and square..
". Turn the sound off watch the fight and see." What does that have to do with anything?? lol Pacquiao landed nearly 100 more punches than Bradley did, he landed more power punches, and he hit him at a higher percentage than Bradley did. So please enlighten me. What exactly did Bradley do to win?? And whats more important than punching?
Rcstatv2 .- ur the only one who says Bradley won... How about Bradley's punches that misses by miles and he even said that he got rocked by pacquiao a lot of times!!! And he's the only boxer that I know that says he's gonna review the fight to see if he really won!!! Even Bradley himself is not sure about his victory!!
It could have been Floyd's people who paid the judges off. Arum is the last guy who wants Pacqaio to lose. It wouldn't make sense for a guy's struggling Promotion company to have his Ace lose a fight. These judges were paid and it wasn't Arum who paid them. Probably Golden Boy folks or Mayweather's to get Pacqaio off the radar. Just a thought.
@@deadarmdofcs it was there's an interview i watched where arum said pacquiao planning to retire and his last fight was with bradley so i think arum hands over the belt to his new fighter bradley but then after back 2 back loses manny is forced to fight more years to regain eveything
it's funny when they think the judges hold grudge against manny for delaying the game a bit since manny suddenly disappeared bcoz he is watching nba at his locker room. so judges favor with bradley instead, lol that's so funny
this is the thing i actually liked mr mayweather at lightweight... its when he moved to welterweight that he started clowning around.... if u want me to explain i will... if your a mayweather follower and not a boxing purist ignore this and stick to ur beliefs... im a boxing fan first.... i love the sport and i admire many fighters... mayweather is the only i cant give credit to since hes been in the welterweight division... u can get on my youtube account and we can discuss..take care
Duane Ford, one of two judges who scored the bout 115-113 for Timothy Bradley said "I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson,” said the 74-year-old boxing judge. / thats just crazy.
I'm more surprised that people care so much about this after many called it a "so-called" dead sport. Only time boxing gets coverage nowadays is if it's Pacman-Mayweather discussion or some controversy.
Which is a shame, because Bradley is actually a great boxer, and a very likeable guy. But you're right... it was one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.
Yes that maybe true, & 2 me I agree on that, not 2 mention that Im a huge fan of manny. The fact that Manny's punches fell short of target isn't a huge advantage at any cause since he did land most of his strong punches. Its just the last 2 rounds when Bradley already kinda realized that Manny had won the last 10 rounds, he might as well give all his best which impressed some of us especially the judges. But the judges didn't have the thought of clearly looking back of who was the actual winner.
Total agree with this being a highway robbery, however, the government has no business in policing sports. They have much more important issues to worry about.
say what you want but marquez wasn't stepping on manny foot as a tactic....you can tell when someone is purposely stepping on someone's foot....it's legal anyways you want a perfect example watch adrien broner vs ponce de leon his corner was specifically telling him to step on broner foot and you can see he was actually tryn to marquez wasn't.....but i'm just saying i agree your not complaining about pac's loss so not disrespect bro
I still dont understand how people are blaming "bias commentators" for choosing pacquiao. That just doesn't make sense! There are just too many sport and boxing analysts and writers...boxing legends that gave the sport a name...and many many fans that say pacquiao won. I personally have my favorites but I definitely don't let that get in the way of seeing who wins the fight. If Bradley kicked his ass and they robbed him of the decision it would be just as upsetting. I love boxing in general.
Dont matter now. That fight was close enough to say "whatever", but in this case it was a blowout almost to the point that he had no business fighting Pac.
@ausaurwest Dont you know that the WBO hired 5 judges to review the fight of Pacquiao and Bradley? The verdict is.. the five judges announced that Pacquiao won the fight. So shut up your mouth. Manny is a gentleman and even though he knows 100% he won and yet he accepted the decision of the judges. After the 5 judges announced that Pacquiao won, Manny will not take back the belt. He want to give it to Bradley or let the the WBO Champion vacant.
stephen smith says pernell gave chavez a boxing lesson. yea, i think he won but to say he gave chavez a boxing lesson like like saying DLH gave chavez a boxing lesson. chavez had slowed down and was over the hill when he fought those two.
I read somewhere that one of the judges were quoted saying that "pacquiao's hand speed was quick and was hard to judge if landed". What kind of shit is that? If u can't see the fight standing right next to the fuckin canvas...maybe u shouldn't be a judge fucker! Un-fucking-believable! Where do they get these guys...an old folks home?
Pacman loss cause he wasn't landing most of those punches. Watch the fight closely Bradley dodged and blocked most of them punches. People saying Pacquiao was hitting him but there was no knockout, no knockdowns, no cuts, no major swelling, and no blood on Bradley.
To this day I never paid again to see a fight. I wait for it to be free. And I don't care about judges decisions or belts anymore. I make my own mind on who I think won.
it would of taken charvez 6 seconds to walk over to taylor. plus taylor won every round of that fight, so the ref should of given taylor the chance to keep going.
manny's thinking not to renew his contract with top rank, that's why he lost. if manny doesn't renew his contract, he'll lose again. my prediction on the november rematch: bradley will wait to counter-punch in the first minute or so of each round and run away like moseley afterwards...bradley might even get lucky with a knockdown in the later rounds due to manny's calves hurting from running after him all night...if bradley wasn't able to get a knock-down then manny will lose via split decision.
How many times are they going to rob Pacquiao? First Bradley, then Horn.
they hate asian the only man to stand in their NWO world because asian are not victims and dont act like one
@Jimmy Green STFU non yo buzz kool aid drinker
Marquez first
They tried to rob mayweather with canelo but they failed. Hahahaha
Bob arum did it for money
Manny punched so fast the judges only saw half of his punches, lol
I'm a big Manny fan and after this fight I stop ordering pay per view, this fight here broke the camel back for me, what judges did was a disgrace.
Pacquiao won that fight, hands down. I had a friend who was lucky enough to be ring side a few rows back. He is a MMA fan, so is unbias. He just like 98% of the world felt Manny won. Not only won, but won convincingly.
bob arum deserves to stand insde the ring and other corrupt promoters and get beaten by those boxers they played
Pacqaio won 9 decisive rounds and bradley only won 1 decisive round. Meaning if you give the remaining rounds to Bradley, it would still be impossible for him to win. If you can't see that, then you shouldn't even give an opinion about anything in boxing.
true
The way boxing is scored is ridiculous, it should be scored by punches landed or something like that, they have the stats directly after the fight, it would take the stupid decisions out of it
graham o'riordan do you realize that those punch stats and Compu box numbers are done by a human sitting there clicking a button to what punches he or she believes lands. Do not judge a fight on punch stats.
For those that say Pac didn't do enough to win don't understand that Bradley was running after the 5th round or whenever he sprained his ankles. Pac was forced to make the whole fight because Bradley wouldn't/couldn't initiate offense. Pac was the champ and it was incumbent on Bradley to be the aggressor and take the fight. Bradley's inefficiency is more damning because he was the challenger and not only did he not make the fight, Pacquiao had to carry the fight.
Manny only lost on paper.
No, even on paper he clearly won !
🤣🤣🤣👍 he did win tbh
Even the stats paper show Pacquiao. Bradley won round 10 and that was it.
@@rileyneufeld7001 and that proves that you don't watch boxing at all or u just hate manny pacquiao cause he's asian.
@@jareddrewdina2756 I said manny won? Gtfoh you race baiting fool.
I love these guys. Great for boxing. Tells the truth...Miss you on ESPN Skip.
SKIP IS ON FOX SPORTS NOW! ON A BETTER SHOW! LESS SCREAMING
Two judges were over 70....haha! Eye sight and coordination had to be a factor in their judging. Bradley was so slow they caught all his swings..."Ring general-ship". Lol! I guess that was his plan.
Well said Steven A smith
why dont you ask marquez to stop stepping on paquiao's foot while on the ring???
Because that was his only way to catch and beat Manny including PEDs
The biggest bad call that I've ever heard of was Roy Jones jr. In the Olympics when he won the silver medal
A disgrace..I hope the judges could still sleep at night.
Pacquiao got robbed 3 times in America. 1st against Agipito Sanchez that fight shouldn't be a draw Pac should won it via disqualification. 2nd against Marquez the first fight 1 of the judge score 10-7 instead of 10-6 Pac drop Marquez 3 times in the first fight. That fight is not even close and they give it a draw. 3rd is against Bradley lol only a idiot would think that fight is close. Bradley is not doing anything and he still won. I am not surprised if Pacquiao would lose to Floyd via robbery. If Pacquiao wants to beat Floyd He needs to punish Floyd, he needs to stop Floyd.
Paulo Austria I agree.. before pacquiao became a househould name.. most of the people are bias against him
U r really amazing as u can see Americans are against pacquiao and they made meyweather winner
Paulo Austria May 2nd was the 4th LOL
Add Horn 2017 Australia to that list too. 4 times he been robbed
Dont forget to add the jeff horn fight
Pacquiao was watching a basketball game? Respect to that brother, my nigguh!
that was the last boxing ppv i bought and i will never buy a other one.... for me that fight ruined boxing
DAZN would've loved Steven A after this (no more ppv).
I also was shocked and pissed when I watched it.... I was about to punch my aunt's tv but its expensive for me to buy
DAMN IT I was so pissed
Hahahaha🤣🤣🤣👍
The Judeges were old as hell.They couldn't see the fight
even a blind would score that fight 120-108 for pacman
Corrupt judges
The most hurtful victory for Bradley.Everyone who messed up with Pacman on this fight will be remembered and booed forever. CJ Ross,Duane Ford ,Roth and Arum.
And now Horn HAHAHA
Damn, Stephen A speaking that truth man:')
Wich is rare !
@@mathieufredette3157 Yeah it's rare. He also disagree of Floyds 50-0. Because he knew that McGregor wasn't a real boxer and first time to step the boxing ring. But for the record a FAKED record just to surpass Rocky Marciano's record to say that his really great, they count it hahaha🤣
2:57- 6:48 the best comment for boxing!
its rare that Skip and Stephen A agree to something. This really was a highway robbery
Stephen a. hit the bulls eye.. There should be government authority involved in the sport.. As these boxers put so much on the line, including their lives, not to mention, some even died in the sport. So they have the right to have everything fair and square..
absolutely agree pac won by like 10 rounds, but dont quote compubox because its just a guy sitting there pressing a button HE thinks a punch land.
good job! stephen!
What would cause boxing to think Bradley would be a bigger draw than Pacquaio?
". Turn the sound off watch the fight and see."
What does that have to do with anything?? lol Pacquiao landed nearly 100 more punches than Bradley did, he landed more power punches, and he hit him at a higher percentage than Bradley did. So please enlighten me. What exactly did Bradley do to win?? And whats more important than punching?
Thank you!!!! no more PPV!!
Very well said Skip & Smith
Rcstatv2 .- ur the only one who says Bradley won... How about Bradley's punches that misses by miles and he even said that he got rocked by pacquiao a lot of times!!! And he's the only boxer that I know that says he's gonna review the fight to see if he really won!!! Even Bradley himself is not sure about his victory!!
Manny lost to mayweather,horn,timothy bradley shame on you boxing is corupt.
It could have been Floyd's people who paid the judges off. Arum is the last guy who wants Pacqaio to lose. It wouldn't make sense for a guy's struggling Promotion company to have his Ace lose a fight. These judges were paid and it wasn't Arum who paid them. Probably Golden Boy folks or Mayweather's to get Pacqaio off the radar. Just a thought.
Looking back it was a move to have manny fight bigger guys more
@@deadarmdofcs it was there's an interview i watched where arum said pacquiao planning to retire and his last fight was with bradley so i think arum hands over the belt to his new fighter bradley but then after back 2 back loses manny is forced to fight more years to regain eveything
116 to 112 for pacquiao.
That's the same score I had on my score card, not sure what the judges saw in Bradley to have given him the fight
it's funny when they think the judges hold grudge against manny for delaying the game a bit since manny suddenly disappeared bcoz he is watching nba at his locker room. so judges favor with bradley instead, lol that's so funny
this is the thing i actually liked mr mayweather at lightweight... its when he moved to welterweight that he started clowning around.... if u want me to explain i will... if your a mayweather follower and not a boxing purist ignore this and stick to ur beliefs... im a boxing fan first.... i love the sport and i admire many fighters... mayweather is the only i cant give credit to since hes been in the welterweight division... u can get on my youtube account and we can discuss..take care
Love these guys
for the first time they are both agree!!! Boxing make people love one another lol!
Duane Ford, one of two judges who scored the bout 115-113 for Timothy Bradley said "I thought Bradley gave Pacquiao a boxing lesson,” said the 74-year-old boxing judge.
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thats just crazy.
Wow, the judges are 70+ yrs old!! C'mon, why not the ones in their 50s? Someone who can clearly see the punches!!
I'm more surprised that people care so much about this after many called it a "so-called" dead sport. Only time boxing gets coverage nowadays is if it's Pacman-Mayweather discussion or some controversy.
Pacquiao always getting robbed in America! They need to figure out a new way for scoring fr
Two judges were 74 and 71 years old! nuff said. WBO is right to overturn the decision.
I am Filipino and i agree what you said sir.
Sad. They are apparently fighting again.
Years later I think that first fight did more harm to Bradley's career than good cause of that robbery...
Which is a shame, because Bradley is actually a great boxer, and a very likeable guy. But you're right... it was one of the worst robberies I've ever seen.
Completely agreed! That's how I had it.
Manny Pacquiao won plain and simple..
it’s politics period.
When you thought this is the worst until Pacquiao vs Horn happened
Yes that maybe true, & 2 me I agree on that, not 2 mention that Im a huge fan of manny. The fact that Manny's punches fell short of target isn't a huge advantage at any cause since he did land most of his strong punches. Its just the last 2 rounds when Bradley already kinda realized that Manny had won the last 10 rounds, he might as well give all his best which impressed some of us especially the judges. But the judges didn't have the thought of clearly looking back of who was the actual winner.
and I have a question why most of the champs like running around the ring Mayweather ect..... accept PAC man hes the attacker
the saying you can not judge the ,, book by it cover,,, hats off to you Smith
Total agree with this being a highway robbery, however, the government has no business in policing sports. They have much more important issues to worry about.
Skip Bayless is a Real man! he just telling the truth and nothing but the truth!
i agree both of you....dont waste money.....
Arum set this up so there could be a rematch and he'd make money. who is Bradley working for now???hmmm
this is the best comment so far, so many people get pac vision when they watch his fights
So true !! I'm not paying any pay per view anymore either
say what you want but marquez wasn't stepping on manny foot as a tactic....you can tell when someone is purposely stepping on someone's foot....it's legal anyways you want a perfect example watch adrien broner vs ponce de leon his corner was specifically telling him to step on broner foot and you can see he was actually tryn to marquez wasn't.....but i'm just saying i agree your not complaining about pac's loss so not disrespect bro
Always proud and in awe of how you make a stand, Skip Bayless!
I still dont understand how people are blaming "bias commentators" for choosing pacquiao. That just doesn't make sense! There are just too many sport and boxing analysts and writers...boxing legends that gave the sport a name...and many many fans that say pacquiao won. I personally have my favorites but I definitely don't let that get in the way of seeing who wins the fight. If Bradley kicked his ass and they robbed him of the decision it would be just as upsetting. I love boxing in general.
Me too I will never pay for another fight. FUCK BOXING.
I scored the fight 8 rounds to 4 in Pacquiaos favor. I for one will never pay for another PPV fight until the sport of boxing gets cleaned up
It's funny how you said manny and everybody and there momma know. But when manny fought floyd he acted like he didn't see any of those punches why?
watch the Max kellermen breakdown then talk
Most people know Bradley lost but Skip shouldn't be allowed to score boxing because he thinks it's scored by aggression 🤣
I am 73 years old and my grandma scored it almost a shut out in favor of,pacquiao!!!!!
Dont matter now. That fight was close enough to say "whatever", but in this case it was a blowout almost to the point that he had no business fighting Pac.
Timothy won because he use his face in blocking manny punches that is hes defense.
@ausaurwest Dont you know that the WBO hired 5 judges to review the fight of Pacquiao and Bradley? The verdict is.. the five judges announced that Pacquiao won the fight. So shut up your mouth. Manny is a gentleman and even though he knows 100% he won and yet he accepted the decision of the judges. After the 5 judges announced that Pacquiao won, Manny will not take back the belt. He want to give it to Bradley or let the the WBO Champion vacant.
stephen smith says pernell gave chavez a boxing lesson. yea, i think he won but to say he gave chavez a boxing lesson like like saying DLH gave chavez a boxing lesson. chavez had slowed down and was over the hill when he fought those two.
Then on top of it Manny got stiffed against Jeff Horn also
I read somewhere that one of the judges were quoted saying that "pacquiao's hand speed was quick and was hard to judge if landed". What kind of shit is that? If u can't see the fight standing right next to the fuckin canvas...maybe u shouldn't be a judge fucker! Un-fucking-believable! Where do they get these guys...an old folks home?
Steven A. Smith made the best point, stop paying for boxing.
Bradley vs Paquiao 1 was a slap in the face decision for boxing fans.
Bradley is a good guy, but he's delusional if he thinks he won that fight..
What is even dumber is that the judge that said that on HBO was the one that scored the fight for Pacquiao. LOL.
Who's here after manny defeats thurman?
Preach Stephen A
Steven A said it best
Law enforcement or the government can't get involved in these situations? Millions of betting dollars going into corrupt pockets.
Pacman loss cause he wasn't landing most of those punches. Watch the fight closely Bradley dodged and blocked most of them punches. People saying Pacquiao was hitting him but there was no knockout, no knockdowns, no cuts, no major swelling, and no blood on Bradley.
First take that is. not the judges.
To this day I never paid again to see a fight. I wait for it to be free. And I don't care about judges decisions or belts anymore. I make my own mind on who I think won.
He was defending his colleagues. Nothing more. You know, in an attempt to validate there results, but really knowing the truth.
CLINTON STREET
actually he stepped on his foot 16 times in the last fight to keep him from throwing and jumping back out of range.
Anyone who watched the HBO fight shouldn't comment until they watch the fight on mute!
Bob the real deal god of syndicate in boxing...
yeah good point bro
it would of taken charvez 6 seconds to walk over to taylor. plus taylor won every round of that fight, so the ref should of given taylor the chance to keep going.
manny's thinking not to renew his contract with top rank, that's why he lost. if manny doesn't renew his contract, he'll lose again. my prediction on the november rematch: bradley will wait to counter-punch in the first minute or so of each round and run away like moseley afterwards...bradley might even get lucky with a knockdown in the later rounds due to manny's calves hurting from running after him all night...if bradley wasn't able to get a knock-down then manny will lose via split decision.
worst boxing robbery!!!
Instead of leting judges pick... the ppl should pick by texing who they think they won!
Pacman made bradleys career with that robbery fought him 3 times bradley also robbed ruslan
by way more work u mean u counted all the shots that manny blocked right? cus all i saw was bradely hugging and hitting pacquiao on the arms.
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