I’m 100% on board with scooters as transport. But $4999 for this vs $5799 for the Yamaha XMAX, which is the same size class doesn’t make the most sense. Id say the majority of people would take the Yamaha for the proven reliability and expensive dealer network. Sure the Chinese scooters have come a long way, but why get the copy when you can get the real deal for less than a grand more?
The weird thing here is that no one brings the Xmax to their dealers. Usually the only scooters they will sell from Yamaha is the Zuma. And even then that is rare. It is the belief in most of these dealers that Scooters just do not sell here, which riding about in Downtown OKC I can tell you they most certainly do. I have seen many of Freedom's smaller line buzzing about since their inception and I have seen many others, even a guy on a restored 2 stroke Vespa the other day who took great pride in the restoration. We have to overcome that stigma to help grow that market to help bring the Xmax back to us in essence.
Yes, sadly the Xmax is vaporware. Advertised on Yamaha’s website, but basically impossible to find on dealer floors. The few dealers that do want $1000-2000 markups…..plus big freight & doc fees.
I agree with you that scooters are a great urban and suburban commuter vehicle, definitely more convenient than riding my bagger to the store or across town to visit a friend. With a 4 gallon tank and the high MPG, it practically runs on fumes. It is far more practical than an electric bike, especially on range. This is something worth looking into.
have loved my 2003 Honda 250 scooter, great mileage and my infrequent trips from Cheyenne WY to Denver or Fort Collins in CO is no problem. The big problem in the U.S. is that a few years ago someone in congress put in a bill making a restriction not allowing any new scooter over 300cc to be sold in the country stating not meeting emission standards.
I am waiting on delivery of an "Amigo 300cc Storm-S. With USB, ABS, 4 speakers, Keyless remote start. Have seen Freedom Scooters and cannot find any differences, and also the Wottan version of all 3 are the same. At least I hope so. The Storm has all the power and bells and whistles I have been shopping for. And hope the Amigo is as good as the scooter reviewed in this video...
My Kymco Xciting 400S does 62 mpg with 3 galons of fuel tank. In this season I will do about 7.5 K miles. I have tested many motorcycles in the past two years, but in the end I will stick with a scooter again. With new Honda Forza 750.
After doing a little research, I’m going for a Suzuki Burgman. Not because I think it’s a better value than the freedom 300, but because I can’t find one! The closest new 300 is currently 870+ miles away from my home. And they’re more rare than hens teeth. I’m paying cash, so financing is not an issue between the two bikes. Very disappointing. I’d love the Freedom, but I need a scooter in the next month or so.
Good choice these things rust to pieces within 2 years...they put mismatched metals through out and the bolts and screws bond themselves in. You can't find any thread locker on the bolts except on the brake discs. the coatings are tissue thin, they're cheap for a reason, first valve adjustment is at 1000 kilometres, the second at 4000 ..a total waste of money, buy used Japanese over this junk.
@@adivarso8175 Wow! I didn’t know that. I’m glad I bought the Burgman instead. No rust problems there. Very few problems in fact. I’ve been riding the snot out of it this summer. Rode 2,500 miles out to Yellowstone and back without so much as a skip. Sorry that Freedom turned out so bad for you. And thanks for the warning!
i live 3 and a half hours away from my mom and this bike would be useful for me to commute there and back because of the gas mileage it gets 65 miles to the gallon and its 189 miles both ways thats a` 4 gallon tank th`at would cost me 10 bucks to fill it up not bad for 20 bucks
Argh! Mostly wanted to say the fish-eye lens in your side view is making me naseus. 🎉Very interested in what you’re saying. My last bike was a Burgman 650 and it was great. Spine surgery has made the smaller bikes a better fit for me now. Interested in hearing about ADV scooters around 300-350cc. Interesting video!
@@spdbydesign2012 thank u me and my wife had a burgman 650 but sold it to get her a car now where looking to get another scooter for next summer the speakers is a nice touch I just wanna see how it performers with a passenger another long video like this would be great for couples who are looking into getting a scooter
This bike looks nice, but still it's too much $$$ for a 250cc Scooter, sorry. Why do I see a water cooled Vitacci Ranger / Cougar 250cc water-cooled scooters of nearly identical spec listed for $2500 - 2700, but "out of stock" at several DFW Chinese Power sports Dealers ? Hmmm....are they similar clones but they've decided to jack the price to double ? That's been the scam run on us since Covidiocy began. Myself, I got a nice low miles 2006 Burgman 400 with 8,000 miles for $2,000.
I don't know. I have a 200L Vespa and while I love it, in a more rural small town setting I still felt just too small and light on anything beyond the secondary roads or actually in town. After watching the video, that 300 still makes me think of the Shriners riding their little Honda Trail 50s in the parade. I'll stay with my 650GT and if there was something even slightly larger, ( Honda Forza GT??)I'd probably be trying it out and sure as heck don't see myself being on an expressway with nutjobs in cars cutting in and out and 18 wheelers that probably can't see me. As far as efficiency goes, that great milage is only comparable if your have only 1 or 2 people in the car and aren't hauling "things" that don't fit in a backpack. I ride for the love of riding, not to save the world. I get hit on my bicycle for that !LOL
Vespa with its small wheels is not for longer trips, IMO, regardless cc. Sofa scooters are a lot better for this, in particular, if they have bigger wheels.
Motorcycle are usually for making a statement and being cool first, and transportation last, scooters are for transportation very first, and they just happen to be the definition of comfort and reliability, and nowadays even stylish, the person who would look down on you for riding a scooter, are same fools who will look down on people for any reasons there can find because they are insecure in themselves and likely only have a traditional Motorcycle as a statement of confidence to make up for their childish insecurities to begin with, so when i come across those folks i know they are trying to project their insecurities on me and anyone else, so i always have a laugh!!😂
I have an ice bear 300cc, with the linhai Yamaha clone, the only good thing on the bike was the motor, the paint peaked after just two years, and then brake calipers and other stuff after just three years with 5000 miles on it, I don’t know maybe it was me expecting to much out of it.
It's pretty obvious you haven't been 'everywhere else but here'. In almost ALL other countries they never commute on 70mph roads. All over Europe/Africa/Asia their commute is on very slow roads and often through villages or small towns. Get a clue...
I own a maxi but wouldn’t feel comfortable commuting on it. Too many bad drivers on the road and cars are much safer and much more comfortable, especially in very hot or very cold weather. It’s not worth trying to change peoples perspective on the subject, there are many reasons why people choose to use cars over scoots or motorcycles. When I was in China, EVERYBODY rode electric scoots in big cities but NOBODY rode them on highways. My scoot is solely for tooling around in the country, on the weekends.
Not really. It is a concept that changes paradigms and gets one thinking. I commute on the larger machines myself everyday, do not use their full potential and in some cases that does harm them. I myself must change my idea of what is really needed vs what is wanted.
Um, it's not a socialist mindset to live with or without excess. Even socialistic billionaires have mega yachts and Bugattis. It's called pride and living beyond means. If you've earned your way to a Bugatti then by all means it's your decision to get what you want, but if you have to do it with 360 easy payments of 3000 a month ... Then don't do it.
@@RabidHedgehog this was good review as usual. Especially as I wanted some more info on this brand. But Man, this was just a bit too preachy for my taste.
The Piaggio 400 is best in class . 7000 but worth every penny . Has 16 inch wheels better/Aprilia engine . I had a Suzuki burgman Piaggio better and more reliable than the Suzuki
I wish the ADV 350 would come to the states :(
I wish this scooter would come to Europe 😂
Us: why don't you carry maxi scooters?
Dealers: nobody buys them here.
Us: YOU DON'T HAVE THEM.
Agreed, I know of at least five of my buddies and myself would buy an ADV 350. I like the 160 but need a bit more power.
I’m 100% on board with scooters as transport. But $4999 for this vs $5799 for the Yamaha XMAX, which is the same size class doesn’t make the most sense. Id say the majority of people would take the Yamaha for the proven reliability and expensive dealer network. Sure the Chinese scooters have come a long way, but why get the copy when you can get the real deal for less than a grand more?
The weird thing here is that no one brings the Xmax to their dealers. Usually the only scooters they will sell from Yamaha is the Zuma. And even then that is rare. It is the belief in most of these dealers that Scooters just do not sell here, which riding about in Downtown OKC I can tell you they most certainly do. I have seen many of Freedom's smaller line buzzing about since their inception and I have seen many others, even a guy on a restored 2 stroke Vespa the other day who took great pride in the restoration. We have to overcome that stigma to help grow that market to help bring the Xmax back to us in essence.
Yes, sadly the Xmax is vaporware.
Advertised on Yamaha’s website, but basically impossible to find on dealer floors.
The few dealers that do want $1000-2000 markups…..plus big freight & doc fees.
Agree read above i bought the Piaggio bv400 best in class 7000
I'm with you 100% but they are trying to make money because they're selling these
I agree with you that scooters are a great urban and suburban commuter vehicle, definitely more convenient than riding my bagger to the store or across town to visit a friend. With a 4 gallon tank and the high MPG, it practically runs on fumes. It is far more practical than an electric bike, especially on range. This is something worth looking into.
More than 65mpg seems like a good vehicle to commute with.
I’m pumped for the Storm R…if he does 400cc and adds the Bluetooth speaker system it’s an instant buy for me
These 360 cameras make it look like your riding a roller skate, in a goldfish bowl
Thank you for the info on Storm S-300!!
have loved my 2003 Honda 250 scooter, great mileage and my infrequent trips from Cheyenne WY to Denver or Fort Collins in CO is no problem. The big problem in the U.S. is that a few years ago someone in congress put in a bill making a restriction not allowing any new scooter over 300cc to be sold in the country stating not meeting emission standards.
Someone should let Suzuki know....Burgman 400.
He’s finally back! And he’s on a scooter!
Converting the motorcycle owners…one test ride at a time :)
I am waiting on delivery of an "Amigo 300cc Storm-S. With USB, ABS, 4 speakers, Keyless remote start. Have seen Freedom Scooters and cannot find any differences, and also the Wottan version of all 3 are the same. At least I hope so. The Storm has all the power and bells and whistles I have been shopping for. And hope the Amigo is as good as the scooter reviewed in this video...
its the same scooter
@@sephirothlv100 So an Amigo 300 is the same as a Freedom 300? Thank you. Good to know.
@Noplaylists About as easy as walking on the Sun. Have a water pump leak, and finding out how to fix and finding the parts is a nightmare.
@@jacksagrafsky4936 We’ve got pretty much every component you could ever need for Freedom owners.
the king is back
Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇸
Great video with lots of info! The convex lens on your camera is making me sea sick!
I own a 2007 Piaggio MP3 250IE I found on Facebook market and I restore it because of my hobby I like working on old scooters!! 🤔
My Kymco Xciting 400S does 62 mpg with 3 galons of fuel tank. In this season I will do about 7.5 K miles. I have tested many motorcycles in the past two years, but in the end I will stick with a scooter again. With new Honda Forza 750.
I wish we could get the Forza over here again.
After doing a little research, I’m going for a Suzuki Burgman. Not because I think it’s a better value than the freedom 300, but because I can’t find one! The closest new 300 is currently 870+ miles away from my home. And they’re more rare than hens teeth. I’m paying cash, so financing is not an issue between the two bikes. Very disappointing. I’d love the Freedom, but I need a scooter in the next month or so.
Good choice these things rust to pieces within 2 years...they put mismatched metals through out and the bolts and screws bond themselves in. You can't find any thread locker on the bolts except on the brake discs. the coatings are tissue thin, they're cheap for a reason, first valve adjustment is at 1000 kilometres, the second at 4000 ..a total waste of money, buy used Japanese over this junk.
@@adivarso8175 Wow! I didn’t know that. I’m glad I bought the Burgman instead. No rust problems there. Very few problems in fact. I’ve been riding the snot out of it this summer. Rode 2,500 miles out to Yellowstone and back without so much as a skip. Sorry that Freedom turned out so bad for you. And thanks for the warning!
Does the FS Storm 300has traction control ?
It does not.
i live 3 and a half hours away from my mom and this bike would be useful for me to commute there and back because of the gas mileage it gets 65 miles to the gallon and its 189 miles both ways thats a` 4 gallon tank th`at would cost me 10 bucks to fill it up not bad for 20 bucks
Argh! Mostly wanted to say the fish-eye lens in your side view is making me naseus.
🎉Very interested in what you’re saying. My last bike was a Burgman 650 and it was great. Spine surgery has made the smaller bikes a better fit for me now. Interested in hearing about ADV scooters around 300-350cc.
Interesting video!
So where's the review????
I wouldn't mind having a scooter commuter here in Tulsa but I'm 6'5 and 350 lbs so I'm limited. Lmfao good review though
Great review but what id like to see is you and your wife on this bike or a passenger I wanna see u do a few miles with a passenger
I'd be happy to post a video, as my wife & I ride together on mine.
@@spdbydesign2012 thank u me and my wife had a burgman 650 but sold it to get her a car now where looking to get another scooter for next summer the speakers is a nice touch I just wanna see how it performers with a passenger another long video like this would be great for couples who are looking into getting a scooter
Thanks for the review & welcome to the dark side!
This bike looks nice, but still it's too much $$$ for a 250cc Scooter, sorry.
Why do I see a water cooled Vitacci Ranger / Cougar 250cc water-cooled scooters of nearly identical spec listed for $2500 - 2700, but "out of stock" at several DFW Chinese Power sports Dealers ?
Hmmm....are they similar clones but they've decided to jack the price to double ?
That's been the scam run on us since Covidiocy began.
Myself, I got a nice low miles 2006 Burgman 400 with 8,000 miles for $2,000.
So is Freedom a yamaha product? It's looks a lot like my majesty.
It's a clone of a Majesty essentially. It is built by Taro.
@@RabidHedgehog who is Taro
I don't know. I have a 200L Vespa and while I love it, in a more rural small town setting I still felt just too small and light on anything beyond the secondary roads or actually in town. After watching the video, that 300 still makes me think of the Shriners riding their little Honda Trail 50s in the parade. I'll stay with my 650GT and if there was something even slightly larger, ( Honda Forza GT??)I'd probably be trying it out and sure as heck don't see myself being on an expressway with nutjobs in cars cutting in and out and 18 wheelers that probably can't see me. As far as efficiency goes, that great milage is only comparable if your have only 1 or 2 people in the car and aren't hauling "things" that don't fit in a backpack. I ride for the love of riding, not to save the world. I get hit on my bicycle for that !LOL
Vespa with its small wheels is not for longer trips, IMO, regardless cc. Sofa scooters are a lot better for this, in particular, if they have bigger wheels.
electric is pointless but good review
Motorcycle are usually for making a statement and being cool first, and transportation last, scooters are for transportation very first, and they just happen to be the definition of comfort and reliability, and nowadays even stylish, the person who would look down on you for riding a scooter, are same fools who will look down on people for any reasons there can find because they are insecure in themselves and likely only have a traditional Motorcycle as a statement of confidence to make up for their childish insecurities to begin with, so when i come across those folks i know they are trying to project their insecurities on me and anyone else, so i always have a laugh!!😂
you can get a cloned 300cc scooter for less this one is not a good price at all
I have an ice bear 300cc, with the linhai Yamaha clone, the only good thing on the bike was the motor, the paint peaked after just two years, and then brake calipers and other stuff after just three years with 5000 miles on it, I don’t know maybe it was me expecting to much out of it.
You get what you pay for in quality.
It's pretty obvious you haven't been 'everywhere else but here'. In almost ALL other countries they never commute on 70mph roads. All over Europe/Africa/Asia their commute is on very slow roads and often through villages or small towns. Get a clue...
Just can’t take a chance on a Chinese engine
I own a maxi but wouldn’t feel comfortable commuting on it. Too many bad drivers on the road and cars are much safer and much more comfortable, especially in very hot or very cold weather. It’s not worth trying to change peoples perspective on the subject, there are many reasons why people choose to use cars over scoots or motorcycles. When I was in China, EVERYBODY rode electric scoots in big cities but NOBODY rode them on highways.
My scoot is solely for tooling around in the country, on the weekends.
This is not a 12 minute review of the Storm. It is a 34 minute condescension of every other mode of transport.
Not really. It is a concept that changes paradigms and gets one thinking. I commute on the larger machines myself everyday, do not use their full potential and in some cases that does harm them. I myself must change my idea of what is really needed vs what is wanted.
Dude, we are Americans, we get what we want, not what we need. Loose the socialist mindset.
Um, it's not a socialist mindset to live with or without excess. Even socialistic billionaires have mega yachts and Bugattis. It's called pride and living beyond means. If you've earned your way to a Bugatti then by all means it's your decision to get what you want, but if you have to do it with 360 easy payments of 3000 a month ... Then don't do it.
@@RabidHedgehog this was good review as usual. Especially as I wanted some more info on this brand. But Man, this was just a bit too preachy for my taste.
Screw electric future. Discarded batteries are going to be way worse for environment.
The Piaggio 400 is best in class . 7000 but worth every penny . Has 16 inch wheels better/Aprilia engine . I had a Suzuki burgman Piaggio better and more reliable than the Suzuki