The Life, Crimes And East End Of Charles Allen Lechmere - Jack The Ripper Suspect.

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  • čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
  • In this video, I am joined by Edward Stow of The House of Lechmere Channel ( / channel ) for a walk around the East End to discover the haunts of Jack the Ripper suspect Charles Allen Lechmere.
    Our journey begins alongside the memorial to the victims of the Bethnal Green tube station disaster, the worst civilian disaster of World War II, in which three members of the Lechmere family lost their lives.
    We then move on to explore the streets - or, in some cases, the sites of the streets - that were associated with Charles Allen Lechmere, as well as with his forebears and his descendants.
    Central to the story is Doveton Street, where Charles and his family were residing on the 31st of August 1888 when Charles set off for work at between 3.15 and 3.30 a.m. On his way, he passed along Buck's Row where, in the shadow of the Victorian Board School (that still stands today) he discovered the body of Mary Ann Nichols. Or, at least, that's the story he told at the inquest into the death of Mary Nichols, at which he appeared under the name of Charles Cross.
    However, Edward believes that, far from being the finder of the body, Charles Lechmere was in fact the perpetrator of this crime and the other Jack the Ripper murders, and, at the scene, he presents a compelling case for his suspect.
    As well as being an exploration of the Whitechapel murders, the video also features some of the wider history of the district - from Captain Cook to the Krays.
    The journey ends with a visit to Tower Hamlets Cemetery, where Edward takes us to the site of the grave of Charles Allen Lechmere.

Komentáře • 659

  • @walkawaycat431
    @walkawaycat431 Před rokem +22

    Woohoo! My favorite suspect! And Edward Stow!! ❤❤Thank you Richard!

  • @itkapatanka
    @itkapatanka Před rokem +32

    My God, the East End has been murdered. Now it looks like anywhere, no character.

  • @kimberlywalker_
    @kimberlywalker_ Před rokem +96

    I really really love Edwards style and I think he's right on the money. He knows the case, the area, the general history. I really think he's solved it.

    • @loretta_3843
      @loretta_3843 Před 8 měsíci +6

      He really has an amazing knowledge about the time, area and people - and even people connected to them. It would be fascinating to talk to him about this. I can't imagine all the research he's done!

    • @MrBeckenhimself
      @MrBeckenhimself Před 3 měsíci

      Except he actually haven´t. He is just like most other Ripperologists. He bends facts to suit theories.
      There is literally nothing to tie Lechmere to the murders. Not one single thing. Nothing. It's all make belief, it's he could have this, he could have that. Meanwhile there is zero evidence he actually did any of it.
      So he solved nothing. The prime suspect based on what we actually do know, not what we speculate might have happened is Kosminski. Because unlike Lechmere Kosminski can be linked to two of the murders. No other suspect including Lechmere can be tied to two of the murders. But Kosminski can, and even then we can't point the finger at him and say point blank he did it. But he is and should remain the prime suspect based on what we actually do know, instead of what we guess might have happened.

    • @fahlou2019
      @fahlou2019 Před měsícem

      Christer Holmgren solved it years ago. He's just going over Christer's investigation.

  • @chrischibnall593
    @chrischibnall593 Před rokem +62

    I've been following both the "Jack The Ripper Tours" and "House of Lechmere" channels for some time, so am delighted at this "joint" video: well done, gentlemen!

    • @deancordery5935
      @deancordery5935 Před rokem +7

      I'm with you on this i too have followed both CZcams Channels, I am 99.99% sure Lechmere is JTR and I feel this video provides an interesting look at Lechmere being the most likely suspect...
      Thank you for a very interesting video can't wait too see more soon...

    • @jimlewis2395
      @jimlewis2395 Před rokem

      Thats fine but just understand Lechmere aint JTR The ONLY suspects with any REAL evidence against them are Aaron Kosminski or David Cohen

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Před rokem +4

      @@deancordery5935 Me too. The murderer wouldn't have bothered pulling the skirt back down slightly

    • @renekuskchristensen2182
      @renekuskchristensen2182 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@kevinkenny6975Very good point

    • @77Marcel
      @77Marcel Před 5 měsíci

      Here, here. Me too.

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing Před rokem +35

    My 2 favourite channels combined

  • @Legionmint7091
    @Legionmint7091 Před rokem +34

    Thank you Mr. Jones and Mr.Stow both for a tremendously interesting tour that, among a great many things, sorted out the position in which both policemen could have seen each other (that I had wrong because I’d failed to take the topography into consideration). It was really great to see the locations surrounding the murder scene to get a broader perspective. And of course, Mr.Stow’s knowledge is indeed both impressive and very valuable. I will now pop over to subscribe to his channel.
    Cheers!

  • @allmerwraff6851
    @allmerwraff6851 Před rokem +13

    My favourite JTR youtubers in one video. It is finally happenned, im so happy now. Thank you

  • @davesmith7432
    @davesmith7432 Před rokem +23

    Thanks for doing this Rich and Ed. It’s great that you too guys got together. I enjoyed it!

  • @katharineanne7397
    @katharineanne7397 Před rokem +14

    This was a fantastic video! I find Mr. Stow to be so informative on this subject. I enjoy all his videos on his channel. Thank you for interviewing him!

  • @peteclarke9416
    @peteclarke9416 Před rokem +12

    Thoroughly fascinating, enthralling discussion. Well done guys..

  • @susanclapp1721
    @susanclapp1721 Před rokem +25

    Excellent and interesting video on my favourite JtR suspect Charles Lechmere.

  • @elguapo42
    @elguapo42 Před rokem +9

    My two favorite Ripperologists collaboration thank you boys

  • @LisaSargent03
    @LisaSargent03 Před rokem +41

    Love Eric Stow. Thank you for interviewing him.

  • @KingBritish
    @KingBritish Před rokem +25

    Richard, you have really upped your game in recent months having Blomer, Stow and Holgrem on the channel and discussing the topics that actually matter.

  • @drylunch6400
    @drylunch6400 Před rokem +14

    Great video. I have really enjoyed the House of Letchmere videos. I even travelled to London to visit all spots and walks in his videos.

    • @TiaMargarita
      @TiaMargarita Před rokem +2

      Wow, that is awesome. London is on my bucket list!

    • @drylunch6400
      @drylunch6400 Před rokem +1

      @@TiaMargarita so much history and character. Enjoy 😊

    • @TheSimmpleTruth
      @TheSimmpleTruth Před 5 měsíci

      Spooky!

    • @noahbrock349
      @noahbrock349 Před 3 měsíci

      I don't see much point. The East End has changed to such extent that it is unrecognisable.

  • @garybarnett583
    @garybarnett583 Před rokem +51

    A great collaboration. Ed sure knows his stuff about the East End.
    I’m shocked that the Coventry Street arch is being built over. I’m working on a series of articles about horse slaughtering called ‘Notes from Knackerdom’. I’m glad I managed to get a photo of the arch before it was mucked about with.

    • @thehouseoflechmere9407
      @thehouseoflechmere9407 Před rokem +5

      I have a portfolio of photos

    • @legitbeans9078
      @legitbeans9078 Před rokem +3

      As an Irish person... Knackerdom 🤣👍

    • @silverstuff182
      @silverstuff182 Před 9 měsíci

      I feel sorry for "London" because they are still so embarrassed by the Ripper murders. Over the years London has gone out of its way to tear down the sites and build different buildings and change the roads, Thats' a shame. It's just history.

  • @thomashahn631
    @thomashahn631 Před rokem +6

    This was a great video. It gives you a thorough run through of the locations Lech passed through, on his way to the murder scene, and beyond. Lots of information about the east end in general, and what the layout was on that fateful morning. Edwards added some touches to the narrative that I never though of.

  • @barryballinger5912
    @barryballinger5912 Před rokem +20

    Brilliant film Richard great presentation by you both
    Edward convinced me its lechmère.

  • @cherryred8265
    @cherryred8265 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Has always facinated me. My 2x gt grandfathers autopsy was conducted by the same man that did the autopsies on the Ripper victims. The other side of my family had a horse slaughtering business at the end of Bucks Row.

  • @qamerashah
    @qamerashah Před rokem +6

    Fantastic work . Thank you to you both . Thank you for adding the typed summaries during the video and asking the great questions along the way that came to my mind also and Edward for the amazing history not only about the murder but also the treasure trove of White Chapel history.

  • @omarhamid3638
    @omarhamid3638 Před rokem +9

    Thanks for this Richard! I’m loving this series, as I mentioned before, and this interview and tour was a real treat and one of my personal highlights I must say! Edward Stow is so knowledgeable about not just JTR but all things East End. I subscribe to the House of Lechmere channel and the level of research and explanations is extensive and thorough. Shame about Charles Lechmere’ grave and I had no idea about the Herefordshire connections and the cat meat business! All in all,the whole tour along Bucks Row and the surroundings was very interesting. Thanks very much for such a lovely video! 👏👏👏👍👍👍

  • @kinsleykhoo48
    @kinsleykhoo48 Před rokem +20

    out of all the Jack the Ripper documentaries and the suspects ive seen over the decades - the story of Lechmere is the most compelling - we will never know but his story seems like he would be the ripper.

  • @hellooohowareudoing
    @hellooohowareudoing Před rokem +10

    Great video as always - very interesting!

  • @blackdarren7708
    @blackdarren7708 Před rokem +19

    As a long time fan of Ed and Richard it was a pleasant surprise to find this video. Your chemistry is great and I'm hoping you'd consider another collaboration one day! Thank You!

  • @TiaMargarita
    @TiaMargarita Před rokem +14

    I didn’t know that Edward contributed to the Stairway to Heaven memorial. Thank you for including that information.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 10 měsíci

      I wonder if Jimmy Page and Robert Plant did? 😂

  • @maryaha7
    @maryaha7 Před rokem +6

    This is a very interesting video. I follow both this channel and the House of Lechmere channel. Y'all both do great work and I appreciate you both.

  • @lanatanacharms
    @lanatanacharms Před rokem +4

    This was a fantastic video! I really loved how detailed it was and getting to see the area as it is today along with the history of it all was lovely.

    • @billbailey7193
      @billbailey7193 Před 10 měsíci +1

      There’s a YT video where they show a photo of what each murder site looked like back then, an old photo, and fade it into a photo of nowadays. The comparison shows just how much the areas have changed.

  • @keredsilloc4095
    @keredsilloc4095 Před rokem +62

    This is great. Edward Stow, along with Christer Holmgren, is one of the leading voices on proving Lechmere's guilt.

    • @jamescorlett5272
      @jamescorlett5272 Před rokem +7

      I've heard Richard's oppion when pushed on whom the ripper Might be and it sure as hell wasn't Cross .

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Před rokem +2

      Yes!! ❤

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem

      It can never be proven, but there is more evidence (albeit circumstantial) for Lechmere than for any other suspect.

    • @TiaMargarita
      @TiaMargarita Před rokem +7

      @@jamescorlett5272. Of course it wasn’t a man named Cross. There was no man named Cross. That was an an alias. Lechmere used that alias.

    • @TiaMargarita
      @TiaMargarita Před rokem +4

      Edward researched Lechmere at the bequest of a member of the Lechmere family. He never expected that he would uncover JTR’s identity.

  • @bigmofarah9084
    @bigmofarah9084 Před rokem +15

    I'm really pleased that this channel highlights so many different aspects of London's history. It's especially gratifying that the much maligned east is so prominent and not just because of JTR.
    On another note, the Salmon & Ball pub has such an old school feel to it. Really reminds me of pubs when I was a kid. Not too many of those types of places around nowadays.

    • @silverstuff182
      @silverstuff182 Před 9 měsíci

      The much maligned East is now unaffordable!!!

  • @veryrancid3128
    @veryrancid3128 Před rokem +4

    This was dreadfully interesting! Loved every minute of it!

  • @lewiswalker7803
    @lewiswalker7803 Před rokem +6

    Interesting and very informative video. Good work Ed!!

  • @tonylinsell8918
    @tonylinsell8918 Před rokem +6

    Great channel and vid,highly enjoyable

  • @ruiseartalcorn
    @ruiseartalcorn Před rokem +6

    This was very interesting indeed! Many thanks :)

  • @michaelbrown7561
    @michaelbrown7561 Před rokem +3

    Excellent! Thanks for your outstanding work on this case, Edward. I learn something new each time I watch one of these videos.

  • @themajesticmagnificent386

    Absolutely amazing and so much great information..You’s two Gentlemen have so much knowledge and carful insight on this case and characters..Thank you both for one of the best u-tube uploads I’ve seen this year so far..I’ll be watching this a good few times👍

  • @Chingfordassociates
    @Chingfordassociates Před rokem +4

    The walk around the east end was terrific...Tipples! now that brings back memories.

  • @cbamr
    @cbamr Před rokem +5

    Brilliant video. This guy has a great memory

  • @rextomkinson6226
    @rextomkinson6226 Před 4 měsíci +4

    To suggest that Lechmere was not Jack the ripper is to stretch credibility. People can cry 'circumstantial' if they wish, but when the circumstantial evidence piles up, we can't ignore it.

  • @marynazajda5719
    @marynazajda5719 Před rokem +5

    Was waiting for that to watch it on my day off

  • @shirleydeans2636
    @shirleydeans2636 Před 5 měsíci +3

    My strongest suspect is Charles Lechmere/Cross. I enjoyed this presentation. Thank you for sharing.

  • @f.o.c.s.1028
    @f.o.c.s.1028 Před rokem +12

    Paradise Row is just off Bethnal Green Road, where Mary Jane Kelly once lived with Joseph Fleming.

  • @Mike20216
    @Mike20216 Před rokem +2

    Fascinating, you got to be impressed, The guys knowledge of the east end is amazing.

  • @brenmanock
    @brenmanock Před rokem +2

    What a wealth of info from Ed stow. Thanks for your research!

  • @shehzadqureshi2005
    @shehzadqureshi2005 Před rokem +7

    Fascinating video

  • @brianbommarito3376
    @brianbommarito3376 Před rokem +10

    1:07 I believe one of Lechmere’s sons died in that tube accident mentioned here. He had a wife and a child (a son I believe) who also died.

  • @kevinkenny6975
    @kevinkenny6975 Před rokem +4

    Thankyou Richard for getting Ed to do this. Well done

  • @StormRiderShow
    @StormRiderShow Před rokem +11

    This idea that serial killers don’t stop killing is false. It’s not common, but they do. Both Dennis Rader and Edmund Kemper stopped killing and Kemper in fact surrendered to the police.
    After what he did to MJK I think an argument can be made that JTR simply stopped and disappeared into history. Whoever he may have been.

  • @powderfinger4790
    @powderfinger4790 Před rokem +21

    Excellent video about the strongest suspect so far. I always set little store on whether Lechmere can be eliminated as a suspect for some of the murders because there is dispute over when he set out for work or whether he had a day off work. He seems to have been employed by the same firm for many years and like many long established employees he might have been adept at coming or going at times as he pleased or taking a day off when it suited him. If he really was a narcissistic psychopath, it is likely that neither his wife nor his employer knew where he was half the time.

    • @seankinnane12
      @seankinnane12 Před rokem +4

      I agrree ..workers that have been with a company for a while seem to come and go when they please arriving late with no one keeping tabs on them sounds viable when it comes tp Mary Kelly

    • @silverstuff182
      @silverstuff182 Před 9 měsíci +1

      But was it like that for minimum wage type workers, i.e., carmen? I don't think things were so lenient before unions, in the 19th century and before.

    • @andrewtomlinson5237
      @andrewtomlinson5237 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@silverstuff182 No,it wasn't. You are right, they were pretty strict. Theywould have been reluctantly OK with Cross taking a morning to attend a Coroners Inquiry, but if he had been coming and going to suit his murders spree they would have been far less likely to tolerate it.
      It's another "how do we manipulate reality to helpit fit Lechmere?" He was a delivery driverfor one of the most prestigious moving companies in London. They kept tight schedules, and would not have looked kindly on their workers turning up late and covered in blood. He no more carried "meat" and would therefore be wearing a bloodstained apron than the Occado driver who delivers me bacon and sausages. The meat he delivered was wrapped andpackaged having already been processed. He wasn't hauling horse flesh round in the backof his cart.

  • @TiaMargarita
    @TiaMargarita Před rokem +7

    Interesting that it was independent researchers who found no one under the name of Cross.

  • @user-xl2jq7hu5j
    @user-xl2jq7hu5j Před 18 dny

    Wow! Besides your theories in "Ripperology", your knowledge of local history is very stimulating. I particularly liked your use of the term "psychogeography". I'll also check out the film "Sparrows Can't Sing".

  • @vivienwilliams1538
    @vivienwilliams1538 Před rokem +1

    Brilliant. Thoroughly enjoyed this.

  • @MrTowton1461
    @MrTowton1461 Před rokem +1

    I'm so looking forward to joining the JTR tour in June 2023. What a fascinating story.

  • @bendavies8881
    @bendavies8881 Před rokem +10

    Lechmere is gaining ground as a suspect, primarily because he has a particularly energetic and eloquent advocate.

    • @christerholmgren335
      @christerholmgren335 Před rokem +11

      No, his suspect status is firmly based on his behaviour on the murder morning and his testimony at the inquest. It would take a very ill equipped advocate to squander it into a bad case.

    • @feliscorax
      @feliscorax Před rokem

      @@christerholmgren335 I agree he’s amongst the most likely suspects based on what is currently known, but I am also mindful that Ockham’s razor does cut another way, too: many of the factors you take into consideration and give a certain weighting, such as mentioned in the documentary elsewhere on CZcams, would also apply to any number of other men local to the Whitechapel area. For example, I’ve read on Casebook the study of Aaron Kosminski**, and he also fits the mould as someone whose combination of demographic and geographic ought to be taken seriously (as well as the fact he’s Scotland Yard’s favoured candidate). If we take eyewitness testimony seriously, then Kosminski’s purported identification by Israel Schwartz whilst an inmate has at least as much merit as what may simply be circumstantial misfortune on Charles Allen Lechmere’s part - unless, of course, what you’re really suggesting is that there were two serial killers prowling the streets of Whitechapel in 1888 who shared remarkably similar MOs?
      One further aspect that weighs against your argumentation re: Lechmere is, I think, the language used to describe the encounter between him and Robert Paul in Buck’s Row. The latter said to the newspapers that Lechmere was standing ‘where the woman was’, but was more precise in the inquiry in describing him as standing ‘in the middle of the road’. Since “where the woman was” can also mean *adjacent* but not immediately *next* to (i.e., his location out in the middle of the road was perpendicular to where her body was lying), the vagary of this contradiction is important. I would therefore suggest that additional weight has to be given to his inquiry testimony rather than his newspaper report as he would have been sworn under oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth at the former.
      ** Possibly misidentified. As you’re no doubt aware, Nathan Kaminsky was Martin Fido’s preferred candidate. I tend to agree with Fido that he’s the most likely candidate and that Scotland Yard did, in actual fact, get their man.
      Edit: Again, I've started to change my mind on this. You've done a very good job of explaining these counter-arguments away as being in the category of "possible, but implausible."

    • @silverstuff182
      @silverstuff182 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Really it all depends on how long he was standing over Mary Nichols before the other man arrived. That's so essential. And I don't think we can figure that out.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @silverstuff182
      Well we KNOW he was there longer than he said he was, otherwise Paul would have seen and heard him walking along Bucks Row just ahead of him. He didnt.

  • @garybarnett583
    @garybarnett583 Před rokem +6

    I’m particularly interested in Maria Lechmere (née) Roulson. Her father was the Butler of Edward Bolton Clive, a distant cousin of Clive of India. When EBC died he left a sizeable bequest to Maria’s father.

  • @paulguise698
    @paulguise698 Před rokem +3

    Hiya Richard, I enjoyed this vlog, I tend to avoid the 1 hour vlogs, he's right on the money, is there any of the victims ancestory still live in the Whitechapel area? Edward's knowledge of Jack the Ripper is Excellent, this is Choppy in Whitehaven, Cumberland, England, the reason I put Cumberland is Where going back to Cumberland in 1 months time, the former name is Cumbria

  • @dermotkelly6946
    @dermotkelly6946 Před rokem +2

    Great video from both you gents 👍

  • @jupite1888
    @jupite1888 Před rokem +4

    Nice to see ordinary Citizens doing Great things for their Community and City.

  • @damianbowyer2018
    @damianbowyer2018 Před rokem +1

    Amazing Info about The Lechmere Family from Edward and Some Of The History of The East End, as well...Very Interesting Stuff, that's 4 sure...😊🤲

  • @JustinTyme33
    @JustinTyme33 Před rokem +4

    Enjoyable discussion.

  • @lokischildren8714
    @lokischildren8714 Před rokem +3

    Great to see two experts pool there knowledge

  • @3amigos919
    @3amigos919 Před rokem +1

    Interesting stuff, thank you!

  • @Veaseify
    @Veaseify Před 7 měsíci +3

    I haven't seen the video yet so I don't want to jump to conclusions but I can't see how a person whose life and whereabouts are almost fully known after the Ripper Murders could just not have been suspected for pretty much 100 years after the events. Why did he start killing, and most importantly , why did he stop? It's as if we are supposed to believe he had 'a bit of a moment' during the Autumn of 1888 and then just went back to living a normal life?

    • @christerholmgren335
      @christerholmgren335 Před 7 měsíci

      Charles Lechmeres life and whereabouts are not "almost fully known" after the Ripper murders. We know where he lived and what he did for work, but we have no idea about how he spent his life otherwise. There is no standard answer for why serial killers begin killing. It can have something to do with stressors in their lives, but every killer is unique. Why did Lechmere stop? The same answer; we cannot know. But we DO know that serial killers DO stop! As for "having a moment" back in 1888, the supposition is that he was active over a period of many years, I myself say at the very least from 1873 to 1889, and probably longer. Joseph DeAngelo started burglarizing homes in 1974 and went on with that to 1976, when he "had a bit of a moment" and became a rapist between 1976 and 1979. He then had another bit of a moment and started a serial killer carrier that went on between 1979 and 1986. After that, he stopped short and went on with his private family life and work. Can you tell me why he became a burglar? And why he stopped? And why he began raping women, and then stopped? And why he was a prolific serial killer for a seven year period - after which he stopped? His life and whereabouts are "well known" for the 32 year long period under which he was considered an ordinary working man, living in an ordinary area, having a family and kids and enjoying sport fishing as a hobby. Tell me, if you will, how he managed to do all of this without you - or anybody just like you - having said "No, no, no, Mr DeAngelo, you can't fool me!"

  • @lyndoncmp5751
    @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +20

    Lechmere's reason/excuse for going over to Polly seems odd. If he really thought it was a large (human body bulk in size) tarpaulin, then what? Did he plan to struggle with it and carry it all the way to work, and why would he? Pickfords had lots of them. Did he plan on taking it straight home, thus making himself a good 20 minutes late for work? Did he want to have a look at it for picking up later on his way back from work? Doubtful it'd still be there if it was any good.
    None of the above reasons make sense.
    On top of that, why did Lechmere linger after he'd seen it was a woman lying there and not a tarpaulin? There were no wounds visible, no blood noticeable. If we accept what we've all read about Whitechapel in the 1880s, people sleeping rough, drunkards, down and outs would have been a fairly common, even mundane, sight especially at that time of the morning. What was so special about Polly that enticed Lechmere to linger around instead of just shrugging and walking straight on to work?

    • @andy5xcool
      @andy5xcool Před rokem +11

      I’ve answered this query of yours before. Do you know the dictionary definition of a ‘Tarpaulin’, do you know what it's used for? I’ll save you some time, it’s used to cover up things, that would have been Lechmere’s curiosity in approaching it. He might have thought there could be something of value underneath to steal. OK? I hope I don’t see you raise this comment again, otherwise you’ll have to be another member of the ’Lechmere clique’ whose comments I no longer read and totally ignore.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +11

      😂 Oh dear.
      1. Nobody would leave anything of value under a tarp on the STREET side of the yard. Anything of value left under a tarp left in that location would be behind the yard doors. Sigh.
      2. A typical female body is quite shallow in depth. What on earth could Lechmere think was underneath such a low 'rise' ? Planks of wood? Was he going to lug them to work too?
      Ive not read anywhere that Lechmere went over to this 'tarpaulin' to see what treasures lay underneath. I have not read anywhere that Lechmere said he went over to a tarpaulin that looked like it was covering goods.
      I see you forgot to address why instead of lingering around Lechmere didn't just shrug and move on when he saw it was a woman (that he didn't know had been killed or even been attacked). Such a sight would not be uncommon for those days and that time of the morning.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +11

      "another member of the ’Lechmere clique'"
      As opposed to the 'anti Lechmere clique'? You know, those few same posters who strangely never seem to obsessively argue against any other suspects..... suspects who are far more illogical than Lech.
      Odd that isn't it?

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 Před rokem +5

      @@lyndoncmp5751 What on earth could be under the tarpaulin? I've heard it all now.. Some of the theories do make me laugh 😄

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +6

      Susan Clapp,
      Exactly. A tarpaulin covering something only a body depth in height can't be covering much. All I've ever read is that Lechmere was interested in the tarpaulin itself yet Pickfords had lots of them.

  • @gregorybathurst7171
    @gregorybathurst7171 Před rokem +3

    The quote of $64,000 dollar question stems from the TV game show sale of the century.

  • @warcrypublishing
    @warcrypublishing Před rokem +2

    Outstanding watch

  • @mathewlawton1362
    @mathewlawton1362 Před rokem +3

    Great video

  • @Mandibil
    @Mandibil Před rokem +6

    Interesting thoughts on Lechmere ... a bit too many odd anecdotes for my taste though

  • @bigjake6044
    @bigjake6044 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Have there been any handwriting analysis studies done on Lechmere's handwriting and any of the suspected genuine ripper letters? I can't seem to find anything on it.

  • @MamaMia84oo7
    @MamaMia84oo7 Před 6 měsíci +1

    At this point I’m convinced Mr. Edward Stow is Jack The Ripper.

  • @Mickcotton
    @Mickcotton Před 2 měsíci

    Absolutely Amazing History. Thank You So Much 😊 Cheers 🍻 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇸

  • @danwilson1040
    @danwilson1040 Před rokem +3

    In the 2nd world war my grandfather supplied west end restaurants and hotels with horsemeat which was apparently re sold as beef steak to their well to do clientele.

  • @trexfishtec7375
    @trexfishtec7375 Před rokem +2

    I wonder if the description of the touching or Mary Ann Nichols was so heavily discussed as they didn't know she was dead, when the others clearly were?

  • @YouTubecanfuckagoat
    @YouTubecanfuckagoat Před 7 měsíci +2

    Him being found standing over a very freshly dead Polly & not being questioned.
    He gave the name Charles Allen Cross.
    Not his given name. It was his adopted name. His mother had remarried. He used his step father’s name.
    He was questioned after a newspaper reported on the scene & asked for his assistance. He didn’t want to draw attention to his family. He had an estranged relationship.
    I would very much have questioned this person because he is definitely dodgy.
    He had reason to be there. He knew the area.

  • @Vort317545
    @Vort317545 Před rokem +1

    Edward has done amazing research on this case! Considering this subject is an armchair hobby.

  • @ginabataille1796
    @ginabataille1796 Před rokem +1

    The City/East End area is the most fascinating part of London in many ways, including the JTR mystery.

  • @MosheAlvarez
    @MosheAlvarez Před rokem +1

    Absolutely fantastic!

  • @mrunning10
    @mrunning10 Před rokem +5

    "if it wasn't Lechmere then he missed it by a minute" BRILLIANT. SPOT ON why Lechmere is #1 suspect. ANY other person walking in Bucks Row at the time would have been HEARD by Robert Paul, otherwise that's the unluckiest minute for Polly Nichols ever.

    • @feliscorax
      @feliscorax Před rokem +4

      Yeah... Once the timings and coincidences start piling up, it all seems to be a wee bit too much of a stretch to imagine that it's a coincidence. I know this is subjective, but my father was a detective and habitually allergic to coincidences. I reckon he would have said it all adds up to a person of interest -- at the very least, the police would work backwards from there nowadays when conducting their investigation. At this stage of the game, I would say the onus is on the anti-Lechmere brigade to prove his innocence...

    • @obd3256
      @obd3256 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Oh, please.
      We only know he missed this one murder by a minute. Who knows if he walked by the other murder sites at the exact time. Its just a wild guess based on his work schedule and nothing else.

    • @davekeating.
      @davekeating. Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@feliscorax Timings in the 1880s were plus or minus 15 minutes, be it witness, police or newspapers reports. That's why confusing accounts and reports of times could never be used to convict anybody in a court of law...

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @obd3256
      We KNOW he walked right past where Annie Chapman was later killed.
      We KNOW another, slightly quicker, route was very close to where Tabram was killed.
      We KNOW his mother and daughter lived just around the corner from where Liz Stride was killed.
      Thats a fair amount of coincidences, if that's all they are.

    • @Veaseify
      @Veaseify Před 7 měsíci

      @@lyndoncmp5751 So what was his motivation and why did he just stop?

  • @garylancaster8612
    @garylancaster8612 Před rokem +2

    When I first went there in the late 80s The Roebuck pub was still there and right opposite the murder site, Essex Wharf, was still there although very dilapidated. There was a watchman in Essex Wharf who didn't hear anything. Essex wharf was a red brick warehouse and it's name was on the front of the building in ornate Victorian writing.

  • @brettjones5041
    @brettjones5041 Před rokem +1

    great job mate love the hitory

  • @Dude0000
    @Dude0000 Před rokem +6

    48:41 Valance Rd, is that we’re the Krays lived? If so, a lot of history there. Along with Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky in a meeting either in that old building at the crime scene, or one no longer there knocked down. A lot of blood has been shed that all originated from that very small area.
    Edit 1:03:49 well, I was right about those, but there’s quite a bit more.

    • @hellooohowareudoing
      @hellooohowareudoing Před rokem +3

      Yes, and there is actually footage of the road & inside their house just before it was demolished - search " The Krays Home - 178 Vallance Road just before demolition"

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 Před rokem +3

      @@hellooohowareudoing cheers

  • @HaywardSouth
    @HaywardSouth Před rokem +1

    Ed should write a book documenting his research and illuminating Holmgren's rather sparsely outline.

  • @randywoodworth5990
    @randywoodworth5990 Před 9 měsíci +20

    They can theorize all they want, bottom line is that no one knows who Jack the Ripper really was with 100% certainty.

    • @AndrewBrownM7BUK
      @AndrewBrownM7BUK Před 6 měsíci +5

      It's only that uncertainty that keeps the show on the road. If we ever knew who it was then all interest would evaporate. Just imagine the effect of capturing the Loch Ness monster. Fame is but fleeting, but anonymity lasts forever !

    • @wyldvigilante
      @wyldvigilante Před 5 měsíci +5

      Very true. We will never know for sure who the killer was but the human mind is a fickle thing . We enjoy the speculation and the mystery more than we enjoy the whole story. Ever had a story stick in your head because a character was never fully understood or an ending that is not fully explained???

    • @thetragicyouth
      @thetragicyouth Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@wyldvigilante Exactly. That's also why the JFK assassination continues to fascinate a lot of people. As human beings, we enjoy stories and storytelling - but we like our stories to have a proper conclusion. Where there's no definitive or persuasive 'ending', we speculate instead and create our own ending(s).

    • @meninpapin
      @meninpapin Před 2 měsíci

      They'll believe their own shit

    • @TheCivanina
      @TheCivanina Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yea, I think that the best suspect we have right now aside from the idea we have never interviewed the suspect at all is lechmere. But I find it kind of distasteful to put a title like this up on CZcams about a man that we have thin circumstantial evidence about at best. Like we're still talking about a person and victims of a murder

  • @brianbommarito3376
    @brianbommarito3376 Před rokem +4

    Thank you for making this video together with Edward Stow. You have cleared up some details I have been getting wrong and settled my previous misconceptions. I still think Lechmere is an interesting possibility, even likely, but there’s no way to tell for certain. It definitely makes a difference, for example, that Robert Paul lowered the skirt of “Polly” Nichols from her hip down to her knee, presumably to give her more dignity. The abdominal wounds were certainly covered. If Lechmere was the killer, he might have covered her wounds before Paul or anybody else could notice them. But why wouldn’t he lower the skirt as well? Clearly he hadn’t got to that part yet. But if I were this particular killer, and someone was about to discover me in the midst of my horrible crime, I would have covered up absolutely everything, even the parts I had not yet got to, because subconsciously I am already there, because I planned to do it. Anyways, great detective work. Understanding history and true crime can be very similar skills.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +6

      Maybe he just didn't have the time to do so before Paul was closer.

    • @susanclapp1721
      @susanclapp1721 Před rokem +6

      I also think that Lechmere didn't have enough time to pull the skirt fully down because of Paul hot on he's tail. I believe he had just enough time to pull and hide the tell tail wounds because it could have turned into a stop and search murder scene. The less time seen beside Pollys dead body was crucial timing for Lechmere. He hid lied and was overlooked like a clever cunning narcissist psychopathic serial killer.

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před rokem +7

      Susan Clapp
      Yes, assuming Lechmere was the killer, he wanted to step back from the body and not have Paul see him poking around at it. He didn't have much time.

    • @kevinkenny6975
      @kevinkenny6975 Před rokem +5

      Lechmere obviously only had time to pull it down partly. If it wasn't Lechmere who killed her then why would the murderer bother pulling it down somewhat? He would have just left it pulled up surely

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Před rokem +2

      If he pulled her skirt down further, it might have exposed her near decapitation. Did you ever think of that? It was obviously covered, just like her abdominal wounds.

  • @jonathansimons5715
    @jonathansimons5715 Před rokem

    Great knowledge exhibited here. Very enjoyable.

  • @markcairns9574
    @markcairns9574 Před rokem +7

    Just had a thought whilst watching this. I wonder if Mrs Letchmere left a will stating in no uncertain circumstance is she to be 'buried next to him, the weirdo' or words to that effect and the effort WAS made to ensure she was laid to rest no where near him. You just don't know what goes on behind closed doors. This is so fascinating. thank you for your efforts.

    • @walkawaycat431
      @walkawaycat431 Před rokem +1

      I wouldn't be surprised, not one bit. 😅🤣😂

    • @michaelwilliams3232
      @michaelwilliams3232 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Lechmere died in December 1920 and left a substantial estate of £12k (worth £700k adjusting for inflation). He was buried in an unmarked grave which might indicate what Mrs. Lechmere thought of him.

    • @paulohagan3309
      @paulohagan3309 Před 10 měsíci

      @@michaelwilliams3232 On top of that, somewhere else I heard he was buried in a pauper's grave. So she wasn't willing to spend any money on burying him either.

    • @noahbrock349
      @noahbrock349 Před 3 měsíci

      Interesting thought. Maybe she had suspicions.

  • @karenlittle3339
    @karenlittle3339 Před rokem +2

    Blooming ace !

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl Před 10 měsíci +4

    There is no case for the prosecution if your videos are anything to go by.

    • @christerholmgren335
      @christerholmgren335 Před 10 měsíci

      Interestingly, KC James Scobie was of the exact opposite meaning when he wqs asked about it. He said that there was a prioma faciae case suggesting guilt, and added that a jurynwould not like the carman one bit. But you are prehaps better suited to make calls about matters legal? It is hard to say for me, since ”Concreteowl” is not a name I recognize from the courtrooms.

  • @ROY-COLLEY
    @ROY-COLLEY Před 2 měsíci

    The Roebuck was the name of my late fathers ship . My Dad was in the Royal navy towards the end of the 2nd world war. The Roebuck was a Coastal Destroyer.

  • @herbert9241
    @herbert9241 Před rokem +6

    I've seen a few of Edward's videos. He's an interesting and engaging fellow ... if a tad Lechmere-centric. I've seen most of this content before but the brief recap of Mile End's colourful history was new and fascinating to me.

  • @cjsnedegar834
    @cjsnedegar834 Před rokem +1

    I only have one question about the murder that Lechmere was seen and found by. Was it a one way in/ one way out road allie? And sry ive been drinking watching all your videos so sry if my speeling is off a lil bit

  • @rob-time
    @rob-time Před 6 měsíci

    I like this guy for it. I have seen the doc and it makes sense to me.

  • @malcolmball2829
    @malcolmball2829 Před 6 měsíci

    Excellent show Guys.

  • @susanhumphreys9168
    @susanhumphreys9168 Před rokem +1

    such a shame when they tear down these beautiful Cemetaries , they are part of history , lost forever ...

  • @sandramacglashan1088
    @sandramacglashan1088 Před rokem +1

    I have been following the videos

  • @BenLujan-r5q
    @BenLujan-r5q Před 4 měsíci

    Excellent video!

  • @essexracer27
    @essexracer27 Před rokem +7

    It has to be letchmere. So much points to him. But here he must of heard Jack running off in which case he would of mentioned it , maybe he didn’t think to state that to help divert blame or interest in himself. Or he is Jack the Ripper himself.

    • @ItsSVO
      @ItsSVO Před rokem +6

      If it wasn’t him and somebody he also fled, then why did they take time to cover the wounds up? There would be no reason to do so unless the killer stayed with the body. It was Lechmere.

  • @mickmcguire4571
    @mickmcguire4571 Před rokem +1

    Great video 👍

  • @RaveDave871
    @RaveDave871 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Possible he gave false name simply to avoid the hassle of police follow up on him as suspect ? Innocent people first on scene crime have always done that.

  • @kobrien1352
    @kobrien1352 Před rokem +3

    Edward Stow has pinpointed the most relevant of all Ripper suspects. But prior to beginning his reign of terror, what was Lechmere doing? All serial killers show the signs of their psychopathy from an early age. Does Edward have any knowledge of early life?

    • @lyndoncmp5751
      @lyndoncmp5751 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Ed thinks he was also the Thames Torso killer.

    • @noahbrock349
      @noahbrock349 Před 3 měsíci

      His first murder may have been that of Harriet Buswell in 1872. The case is unsolved and she was murdered in a similar way to the Ripper victims.

  • @Kukisan24
    @Kukisan24 Před rokem +3

    Great upload. Very compelling theory put forward by Ed. The one thing that doesn't help the Lechmere idea is why did he stop? Thanking you both for your efforts .

    • @crose7412
      @crose7412 Před rokem

      @wayblyth Ian Brady stopped killing - he started planning the bank robbery of an "investment establishment" instead so it does happen.

    • @herbert9241
      @herbert9241 Před rokem +5

      I'd recommend visiting Edward's CZcams channel for some theory on that conundrum.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk Před rokem +1

      I'm more concerned about why he would start killing. If he killed at all, of course, which is by no means remotely proven.

    • @Dude0000
      @Dude0000 Před rokem +7

      It’s more common than is generally realised for serial killers to stop, or have breaks. There’s a famous case in America were he killed in the 70’s, had at least a 10 year break, then started again. Given Lechmere was around 39 at the time of the first Ripper murder, that’s quite old. So a break, takes him close to 50’s, opportunities not presenting, probably not in the best physical health after working all those years long hours and the general unsanitary time and place he lived. I don’t see that as a problem in the least. A small indicator at best.

    • @brianbommarito3376
      @brianbommarito3376 Před rokem +2

      That’s why the police and a lot of people thought it was either Druitt or Kosminski for several years, because they assumed that when the killing appeared to have stopped (after escalating with Mary Jane Kelly’s murder) that the Ripper must have either died (Druitt) or been institutionalized (Kosminski). I have problems with both these theories. Neither man fits our current understanding of what this killer was like, based on the various pieces of evidence from the individual crimes. However, those are not the only reasons why killers stop killing. And we don’t even know if the Ripper did stop. He might have moved out of the area and started killing again somewhere else. We just don’t know. I’m inclined to be suspicious of Lechmere, I find the case for him being JTR more plausible than some of the other theories (some of which are nothing more than glorified and elaborate conspiracies and fan-fiction). But I can’t prove it, and neither can anyone else. It is unsolved and likely to remain so. If this case were going to be solved, it would have been solved back then when most of the participants were still alive.