This is beautifully made. I would offer a few refinements. The falcon perch itself would be better made in a half moon so that if the bird bates to the opposite side of where the leash runs, the leash will slide off the perch and not go over the top with the possibility of hanging the bird up. The back needs to be made so that there is no possibility of getting falcon's primaries behind it between it and the wall. Lastly, the use of astroturf is hard to clean... after going through almost every substrate over the last 50 years, the best solution for me is boat-deck material. Mutes are easily wiped up avoiding any chance of old poop on astroturf. I use carpet padding underneath and you can even build in a slight grade so that poop runs back toward the cat litter. This is a beautiful perch. Thanks for the video. R
Ralph Rogers thanks Ralph, wish I’d seen one of yours amongst the other designs I’d looked at to help improve our own build. Guess there’s always looking to the next one!
Good points. Rounded edges are always superior to sharp and hard angles for bird applications. The turf could also be secured with velcro on all surfaces for regular removal and cleaning. I like the mute container, but a safer design would have mesh or hardware cloth across the opening to prevent a falcon from landing or falling into the hole. (In that case, the leash is secured under the shelf and above the screen mat) The health and safety of the falcon should always be the primary consideration in all designs and fabrications. Excellent workmanship here but not all in the best interest of the bird.
Clever idea fella. Now I know I came to the right place. What I would like to do is make pruches outside my house for small birds, finches, nuthatches and such. I would like to put them high on my house which is about twenty feet high. My house is a single floor level domain. Reason is the birds make mud strew nests on top of my outside floodlighting which in number is 6 total. For whatever reason the birds prefer open nests. When the bulbs burn out we try to paste them on the new bulbs with success. When the birds come back without a nest it takes them a while making new nests. Something flat would work but I do not know what would work best. Thanks Falconry Told.
Micaiah Baker haha, there’s somebody out there that dislikes each video I post mere seconds after posting. So they’ve got post notifications on, in order to dislike as fast as possible. They’ve been pretty consistent for some time now 😂
a lot of peregrines nearly slice compared to desert falcons or hybrids - so the height of the perch relative to the platform and size of the cut out are hard to get right sometimes. I have found the height of the perch, the diameter of the cut-out at the sides, and the width of the platform at the sides is the most important measurement to maintain a clean platform from mutes. As the bird almost always sits sideways (especially for peregrines). I would stress re-designing the mute catch system with a more robust channeled blocks that firmly hold the plastic tray in snugly...as you know, if the tub got knocked out it could be catastrophic. I agree with the comment below - to use a half-moon type shape for the perch to avoid hang-ups. Can be deeper than a true half circle but contoured. Nice work!
John Goodell thanks for the insight John, glad this video is turning into a bit of a public forum for ideas regarding shelf perches because I’d have appreciated the insight myself going into this.
@@FalconryTold Nice looking perch! I think folks chime in on this topic more readily since it is such an intrinsically dangerous perch...the stakes are kind of higher when its communicated to a larger audience via internet media etc. You might consider adding a segment about the dangers and how to avoid them etc.
@@FalconryTold your bird has been on this now for at least a week. I am curious... has it had a hang up because of the shape of the top perch? Or are the Jesses sliding off? Are you ending up with shit on the lower turf? Or is it making it into the litter? Would you tweak it at all or are you satisfied with the dimensions?
Such a Great video. One of the best tierces peregrines that I ever flew was a hacked tiercel from Ralph. When Ralph told me it was time to come get him he was on a shelf perch in Melissa’s kitchen just like the one he described. The Vinyl Nagahide landing surface was soft and easily cleaned. The shelf was an elipse covered with plastic door matting. I wish i had built mine like his sooner because being the bouncy tiercel that he was when we got back to Texas his bating on the indoor outdoor green astroturf landing pad wore down his primary tips. Quickly the design was changed to the one Ralph describes and that is what has worked well over the years. Bruce Haak and Dean Keddy Hector use this design as well. It’s super easy to clean and cant hurt any feathers. The carpet padding can be purchased at Home Depot and the vinyl can be bought at fabric stores. Thanks Ralph. Truly cannot thank you enough. Izzy, your videos teach and inspire. Please never quit!!
Ralph and John have made some good suggestions on design improvements. However, I'd certainly be interested in recommended dimensions for larger falcons, particularly with regards to height of perch in relation to level of and diameter of the cut away platform the bird bates onto. My experience is that a falcon such as a female peregrine/male hybrid with a good crop will still shoot a mute out rather than direct drop. Obviously in the interest of hygiene it's important that the mutes reach the litter tray instead of edges of the platform but sometimes the diameter of the cut away can be too big unless the perch is lowered ...which in turn makes it less attractive as a roosting perch. FYI i would avoid the screw in leash securing ring. It's out of sight and often out of mind under the perch or in the wall beneath and I had one pull out once after some extended time. Could have been disastrous. Ever since I now bolt it with nut bolt and split washer and hide the nut in a recess under the top padding. Thanks for sharing the video.
Thank you so much! Me and my partnert design a inox steel perch that we denominated "the eternal perch". I guees sharing this kind of Falconer equipment permits to other Falconers and begineers to get more involved and as you to develop more systems for the benefits of the Falcons, hawks, kestrels, owls, etc.
I have a European Eagle Owl and would love nothing more than to keep him indoors however, I have 2 dogs which he does not meet eye to eye with and don't fancy a fur and feather moment in my living room 😂 thanks for a great video bud. 🎉
That looks so bad ass! I've always dreamed of having a falcon! But I'm not sure if I'm up to the challenge of taking care of them properly... Soooo rather not
Do you think a slightly smaller version would work for an American Kestrel? I've heard many falconers prefer their kestrels on bow perches as opposed to blocks but not sure if it would make a difference here.
Are the measurements correct in your link? I tried to make this myself and it seems to be a huge perch. 56" across is over 4 1/2 feet and 3+feet deep. How do you even reach your bird to unleash or tether to the eyelet? I really want this for my home, but it seems way too big. I also have a Gyrfalcon so the bird is the same as your video.
Provide some info how we can have the falcon Perching on the self for beginners? Can I feed the falcon raw chicken as it's primary food outside my backyard so that it doesn't need to fly too far away and get lost and never come back home? I live in NYC and there are tons of falcons.
Hi, is there any way that you give us measurements in cm? As I see, they are in inches on your drowning... Or we just need to multiply it with 2,54, he he?
Can someone tell me if a falcon could sit outside on perch with bath and something to shelter under all day, be flown at least once a day and come in at night because it is cold in the UK and be put in a dark room to sleep on perch (will change Astroturf to avoid bumblefoot) is this possible?
@Falconry Told your bird has been on this now for at least a week. I am curious... has it had a hang up because of the shape of the top perch? Or are the Jesses sliding off? Are you ending up with shit on the lower turf? Or is it making it into the litter? Would you tweak it at all or are you satisfied with the dimensions?
No hang ups, no issues whatsoever. My bird is mostly gyr so it mutes straight down, but even with a Peregrine I wouldn’t go that much wide with the mute catcher dimensions. I would say it probably doesn’t need to extend out from the wall quite so far, because you’re tethering it to the side dimensions anyways, so at its furthest bate towards the front it has 8 inches or so of remaining real-estate before the edge... it could go in 4-5 inches. Though the bigger the perch the better, I’m at the edge of where any bigger and you wouldn’t be able to reach the leash knot from the front of the perch bending over. 4-5 inches less would make it much more comfortable to tether your bird from the front, rather than the sides. Also, note how the tether ring is at the landing perch level? That’s a must. Keep the leash tether point at level with the birds feet to prevent any tail damage, that aspect of my perch is also right on the money. Happy with it so far!
I have a question, is a mews essential for keeping an American Kestrel? Wouldn’t I be able to just use a falcon shelf for when it’s time to come inside for the day/night?
Kestrels should be mostly inside birds due to weight management, predation and other factors. A set up similar to this ( much smaller of course) would work well. A good kestrel book would be 'American Kestrels in Modern Falconry' by Matthew Mullenix.
Good question, I've thought about that a bit myself and a bit of research reveals some decent solutions... Having multiple turf cutouts with velcro so that they can be removed/replaced and cleaned, but then you have to deal with the range past the edge of the perch... A clear shield of some sort or just an extended set of flooring covers that can be replaced/cleaned frequently as well... Having accipiters in the house is much more complicated.
When I kept my Copper's Hawk indoors it was on 6' pole perch. I followed bill Boni's design that he shows in one of his videos. A tarp was placed on the wall and floor to catch the mutes. It worked very well.
@@amentonbrigs5594 czcams.com/video/lyveCVzR4fg/video.html. The base of my pole perch is a 5 gallon bucket filled with cement. I filled the entire bucket, but I would suggest filling it half way instead as it ends up being about 80 lbs full. It doesn't move at all. lol.
Water/bath pan is provided in the weathering yard, where the bird spends much of the day. They don't require a constant supply of water to drink like many mammals do.
This is beautifully made. I would offer a few refinements. The falcon perch itself would be better made in a half moon so that if the bird bates to the opposite side of where the leash runs, the leash will slide off the perch and not go over the top with the possibility of hanging the bird up. The back needs to be made so that there is no possibility of getting falcon's primaries behind it between it and the wall. Lastly, the use of astroturf is hard to clean... after going through almost every substrate over the last 50 years, the best solution for me is boat-deck material. Mutes are easily wiped up avoiding any chance of old poop on astroturf. I use carpet padding underneath and you can even build in a slight grade so that poop runs back toward the cat litter. This is a beautiful perch. Thanks for the video. R
Ralph Rogers thanks Ralph, wish I’d seen one of yours amongst the other designs I’d looked at to help improve our own build. Guess there’s always looking to the next one!
Good points. Rounded edges are always superior to sharp and hard angles for bird applications. The turf could also be secured with velcro on all surfaces for regular removal and cleaning. I like the mute container, but a safer design would have mesh or hardware cloth across the opening to prevent a falcon from landing or falling into the hole. (In that case, the leash is secured under the shelf and above the screen mat) The health and safety of the falcon should always be the primary consideration in all designs and fabrications. Excellent workmanship here but not all in the best interest of the bird.
Link to the "boat deck material"? Thanks.
Would you use the vinyl to replace the doormat he used here, or just on the perch?
@@dorisandpatrickleary8297 Would you use the vinyl to replace the doormat he used here, or just on the perch?
Clever idea fella. Now I know I came to the right place. What I would like to do is make pruches outside my house for small birds, finches, nuthatches and such. I would like to put them high on my house which is about twenty feet high. My house is a single floor level domain. Reason is the birds make mud strew nests on top of my outside floodlighting which in number is 6 total. For whatever reason the birds prefer open nests. When the bulbs burn out we try to paste them on the new bulbs with success. When the birds come back without a nest it takes them a while making new nests. Something flat would work but I do not know what would work best.
Thanks Falconry Told.
Awesome. How could anyone dislike this? I hope it was just out of ignorance because any educated person could see how practical this is.
Micaiah Baker haha, there’s somebody out there that dislikes each video I post mere seconds after posting. So they’ve got post notifications on, in order to dislike as fast as possible. They’ve been pretty consistent for some time now 😂
@@FalconryTold
There's always some asshole out there who wants to piss on everyone's parade.
a lot of peregrines nearly slice compared to desert falcons or hybrids - so the height of the perch relative to the platform and size of the cut out are hard to get right sometimes. I have found the height of the perch, the diameter of the cut-out at the sides, and the width of the platform at the sides is the most important measurement to maintain a clean platform from mutes. As the bird almost always sits sideways (especially for peregrines). I would stress re-designing the mute catch system with a more robust channeled blocks that firmly hold the plastic tray in snugly...as you know, if the tub got knocked out it could be catastrophic. I agree with the comment below - to use a half-moon type shape for the perch to avoid hang-ups. Can be deeper than a true half circle but contoured. Nice work!
John Goodell thanks for the insight John, glad this video is turning into a bit of a public forum for ideas regarding shelf perches because I’d have appreciated the insight myself going into this.
@@FalconryTold Nice looking perch! I think folks chime in on this topic more readily since it is such an intrinsically dangerous perch...the stakes are kind of higher when its communicated to a larger audience via internet media etc. You might consider adding a segment about the dangers and how to avoid them etc.
@@FalconryTold your bird has been on this now for at least a week. I am curious... has it had a hang up because of the shape of the top perch? Or are the Jesses sliding off? Are you ending up with shit on the lower turf? Or is it making it into the litter?
Would you tweak it at all or are you satisfied with the dimensions?
Such a Great video. One of the best tierces peregrines that I ever flew was a hacked tiercel from Ralph. When Ralph told me it was time to come get him he was on a shelf perch in Melissa’s kitchen just like the one he described. The Vinyl Nagahide landing surface was soft and easily cleaned. The shelf was an elipse covered with plastic door matting. I wish i had built mine like his sooner because being the bouncy tiercel that he was when we got back to Texas his bating on the indoor outdoor green astroturf landing pad wore down his primary tips. Quickly the design was changed to the one Ralph describes and that is what has worked well over the years. Bruce Haak and Dean Keddy Hector use this design as well. It’s super easy to clean and cant hurt any feathers. The carpet padding can be purchased at Home Depot and the vinyl can be bought at fabric stores. Thanks Ralph. Truly cannot thank you enough. Izzy, your videos teach and inspire. Please never quit!!
Would you use the vinyl to replace the doormat he used here, or just on the perch?
That's so awesome.
It is very nice looking; excellent design, well done!
Beautiful and simple woodwork
Love the design. I would ask my buddy to build me a cool cabinet around the bottom so I could store stuff for the bird. Cool channel.
Well done, video and perch
First, I love your channel. Notification GANG!
Ralph and John have made some good suggestions on design improvements. However, I'd certainly be interested in recommended dimensions for larger falcons, particularly with regards to height of perch in relation to level of and diameter of the cut away platform the bird bates onto. My experience is that a falcon such as a female peregrine/male hybrid with a good crop will still shoot a mute out rather than direct drop. Obviously in the interest of hygiene it's important that the mutes reach the litter tray instead of edges of the platform but sometimes the diameter of the cut away can be too big unless the perch is lowered ...which in turn makes it less attractive as a roosting perch.
FYI i would avoid the screw in leash securing ring. It's out of sight and often out of mind under the perch or in the wall beneath and I had one pull out once after some extended time. Could have been disastrous. Ever since I now bolt it with nut bolt and split washer and hide the nut in a recess under the top padding. Thanks for sharing the video.
Nice
That's pretty sweet!
Thank you so much! Me and my partnert design a inox steel perch that we denominated "the eternal perch". I guees sharing this kind of Falconer equipment permits to other Falconers and begineers to get more involved and as you to develop more systems for the benefits of the Falcons, hawks, kestrels, owls, etc.
I have a European Eagle Owl and would love nothing more than to keep him indoors however, I have 2 dogs which he does not meet eye to eye with and don't fancy a fur and feather moment in my living room 😂 thanks for a great video bud. 🎉
That looks so bad ass! I've always dreamed of having a falcon! But I'm not sure if I'm up to the challenge of taking care of them properly... Soooo rather not
Is flat surface good for bird feet ?
Are you still doing the podcast ? If so is there any other apps besides SoundCloud? I can’t get anything other than Steve’s Chindgren’s
Matthew Starnes yes, new episode just released on falconrytold.com/podcast We are looking to get it out there on most major platforms soon!
Do you think a slightly smaller version would work for an American Kestrel? I've heard many falconers prefer their kestrels on bow perches as opposed to blocks but not sure if it would make a difference here.
Are the measurements correct in your link? I tried to make this myself and it seems to be a huge perch. 56" across is over 4 1/2 feet and 3+feet deep. How do you even reach your bird to unleash or tether to the eyelet? I really want this for my home, but it seems way too big. I also have a Gyrfalcon so the bird is the same as your video.
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I just made a micro one for my ak work spot on
Is the measurements on the website the same as the one in this video
Look at that unusual bird! Was expecting NA kestrel. Only thing more cool than your bird is your hair which is almost surreal beautiful.
Great
Nice great job thanks.
how do you make you’re falcon super chill he didn’t even try to fly once
Very nice
Is this legal since they inspect the enclosure for the bird
Provide some info how we can have the falcon Perching on the self for beginners? Can I feed the falcon raw chicken as it's primary food outside my backyard so that it doesn't need to fly too far away and get lost and never come back home? I live in NYC and there are tons of falcons.
Hi, is there any way that you give us measurements in cm? As I see, they are in inches on your drowning... Or we just need to multiply it with 2,54, he he?
Very cool
Is this shelf perch recommended for owls or only for falcons?
Can someone tell me if a falcon could sit outside on perch with bath and something to shelter under all day, be flown at least once a day and come in at night because it is cold in the UK and be put in a dark room to sleep on perch (will change Astroturf to avoid bumblefoot) is this possible?
what dimensions would you recommend for an american kestrel?
@Falconry Told your bird has been on this now for at least a week. I am curious... has it had a hang up because of the shape of the top perch? Or are the Jesses sliding off? Are you ending up with shit on the lower turf? Or is it making it into the litter?
Would you tweak it at all or are you satisfied with the dimensions?
No hang ups, no issues whatsoever. My bird is mostly gyr so it mutes straight down, but even with a Peregrine I wouldn’t go that much wide with the mute catcher dimensions. I would say it probably doesn’t need to extend out from the wall quite so far, because you’re tethering it to the side dimensions anyways, so at its furthest bate towards the front it has 8 inches or so of remaining real-estate before the edge... it could go in 4-5 inches. Though the bigger the perch the better, I’m at the edge of where any bigger and you wouldn’t be able to reach the leash knot from the front of the perch bending over. 4-5 inches less would make it much more comfortable to tether your bird from the front, rather than the sides. Also, note how the tether ring is at the landing perch level? That’s a must. Keep the leash tether point at level with the birds feet to prevent any tail damage, that aspect of my perch is also right on the money. Happy with it so far!
I have a question, is a mews essential for keeping an American Kestrel? Wouldn’t I be able to just use a falcon shelf for when it’s time to come inside for the day/night?
Kestrels should be mostly inside birds due to weight management, predation and other factors. A set up similar to this ( much smaller of course) would work well. A good kestrel book would be 'American Kestrels in Modern Falconry' by Matthew Mullenix.
How would you modify a shelf perch for an indoor cooper hawk to maintain their socialization ?
Good question, I've thought about that a bit myself and a bit of research reveals some decent solutions... Having multiple turf cutouts with velcro so that they can be removed/replaced and cleaned, but then you have to deal with the range past the edge of the perch... A clear shield of some sort or just an extended set of flooring covers that can be replaced/cleaned frequently as well... Having accipiters in the house is much more complicated.
@@FalconryTold what we've pretty successfully done in South Africa is using a high screen perch or a pole perch depending on how much space you have
When I kept my Copper's Hawk indoors it was on 6' pole perch. I followed bill Boni's design that he shows in one of his videos. A tarp was placed on the wall and floor to catch the mutes. It worked very well.
Scott Peterson - do you have a reference video - tried searching and could not find it
@@amentonbrigs5594 czcams.com/video/lyveCVzR4fg/video.html. The base of my pole perch is a 5 gallon bucket filled with cement. I filled the entire bucket, but I would suggest filling it half way instead as it ends up being about 80 lbs full. It doesn't move at all. lol.
What's the size on this.
Sorry what are the mensures ??
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Your based in utah right?
Yep!
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Which kind of falcon is this?
Prywinn gyr/Peregrine hybrid... mostly gyr
Thank you! I was unsure of hybrid!
No water?
Water/bath pan is provided in the weathering yard, where the bird spends much of the day. They don't require a constant supply of water to drink like many mammals do.
How are you legally allowed to take income from CZcams using a native species?
Well done, video and perch