WHEN YOU PLAY FRANCE at 8.7 ... (War Thunder)
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- čas přidán 20. 09. 2023
- Today I'll be playing with 8.7 BR French tanks. Non of them have stabilisers at the battle rating where a stabiliser is must to have.
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AMX-30B2 BRENUS such a cool vehicle with all that fancy stuff. It definitely deserves to be better placed in WT, even if that would mean removing APFSDS.
So what should I play first, from the next update?
Pls play the Leopard 2 PSO or the Mi-8
VIDAR!
AMX-10 ACRA, because let's make a turretless AMX 30 ACRA into 7.7
The HE Rangfinder (VIDAR so broken)
France 7.7 is the best country i guess
The issue I have with stabilizers in this game is not the act of stabilizing itself, but the fact that it gives an insane turret turn rate boost in comparison to non-stabilized guns. As long as the reticle is close to your mouse, you will just snap onto your targets regardless of your historical turret turn rate.
That's Gaijin's crappy implementation of the stabilizers. Just look at how insanely easily the T-55 stays on target when it's turning on the spot.
That, plus the fact pretty much all stabilizers overperform since they are only "on/off", as opposed to working progressively worse at higher speeds and on more uneven terrain. Like the Sherman stab which shouldn't "switch-off" at 24 km/h, but rather over 24 km/h it shouldn't stabilize enough for it to matter.
@@MadManchou They might have just said it's good enough since in-game you'll know the exact speed at which your stabilizer is ineffective
Now i'm certain Gaijin do have a different matchmaking for France players, you are always on the worst team and you are always supposed to carry them being top player and still losing, you are always put with the worst players that are searching a match witch Gaijin just made France an enjoyable playable nation only if you are among the best amongst the best players and so they made France as an elite only branch of the game witch only pro players can have a go at it and have fun.
(Im very bad in english).
Actually the amx30 should have in the game a stab for the sights, and when you shoot, the sistems waits to the cannon to aliags with the sights and then it shots.
I love the intro "are you ready for pain? Are you ready for suffer?" And then clicks France 😂😂 (so accurate btw)
i play with the Tre and Bis and have unlocked up to 7.7 france and will never ever play those vehicles lmao
Ah yes the nation that gets new Tanks each updates, got a whole navy and who have most Tanks absurdly down for their era and specs... suffer, cool
ive unlocked every tank in the french tree (except the 11.xx) and enjoyed every second...i dont know, they perform extremely well for me...and the 20 mil of the amx 30 series is just a pleasure
😂 hell of a meme it would be
7.7 is amazing though don't go afterwards as it's all russian german bias made up Gajinium anyway same for planes after 9.0@@SnakeBush
We don't have stabilizers because we don't need it, only pure skill required
"Stabilizers are for noobs"
- Général Charles de Gaulle
"Unstabilized go BRRRRTTTT"
- Some french engineers maybe
Im pretty sure the late AMX 30s had a system to help the gun to stay on target, but since its not a "classic" stabiliser Gaijin didnt include it in the game
Yeah , brenus without stab is a pain
I knew it was more like a shot coordination mechanism. The gun wasn't stabilized, but it would automatically fire when it went over the target, basically timing the shot. Only the gunner sight was stabilized so you could actually see what you want to shoot at.
No that's just a myth, it never was stabilised in any way, and it's the same thing for "when the gun went in the same direction it fired".
What it had is COTAC, allowing for the commander to preset the firing distance, allowing the tank to quickly thake the shot.
@@arthurbousquet6838 the COTAC APX of the brenus deserve more than that bouncy gun in the game 😅
@@arthurbousquet6838 I heard that about 3 years ago so I was not sure how accurate it was. Thanks for the correction.
Playing France on 8.7 is suffering, but when you get use to suspension and no stab...oh boy you feel like a God
You need to be sneaky with them. At least in city maps
Long time french grinder here: AMX30 is a flanker tank, use it as such.
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One of my favorite nations to play. idk why they are but its so enjoyable especially 5.0 to 7.7
Hey man love your videos, been watching them for a long time now and it always brings me joy watching you play such a awesome but annoying game and was wondering if you could do another maus video before it comes out for research again for their anniversary?
@@Shermantankgodtierhehehehe, 4 second autoloader
For the record, the AMX 30 was a revolutionary tank at the time, perhaps even the best in the world. The French were the first or among the first to focus on mobility instead of armor, which was then done by all the countries in the world
It wasn't that revolutionary + the Leo1 did most of what the AMX 30 could do a year sooner. This is why the Leo1 got exported to a lot of countries while the AMX 30 only to a few.
The AMX 30 is basicly a weird cousin of the Leo 1, as it was born from the failed Euro Panzer project which gave birth to both Leo1 and AMX 30. The only difference is the Leo1 became a really successful tank, unlike the AMX 30.
@@willdelta4292not really. What you are saying is just false. The amx30 came one year sooner than the léopard 1 (1960 vs 1961). And yes the amx30 was révolutionnary and at least as good as the leo1. And not à weird copy. Try to read and get good informations.
@@antoinehuguet5105 a quick google could easily show that you are wrong beyond help. The Leo1's design started in 1956, and entered service with the Heer in 1965, while the AMX-30's design was started in 1959, and entered service in 1966 with the Baguette Army. The AMX-30 brough nothing new to the table. Nothing. I donno why you french ppl love that rolling junkyard so much when it's just a badly designed stolen Leo 1, because originally, the Leo 1 was name Euro-Panzer and was designed in joint venture by Italy, Germany, and you french guys. Italy left cause they had no money to found the project, and you guys left because "you wanted an only french design", so you basicly STOLE as much stuff from the join venture as possible, while all that german did is scrap the prototype's turret and make a better one. No srsly. The AMX-30 was basicly a much more expensive Leo1 with a 20mm coax for some reason, and this is why the Leo 1 was exported to much more countries then the AMX-30. And on the top of that, it never got a proper electro-hydraulic stabilisator ever. Like what the fuck.
Beside the FT-17, the only semi competent french tank you guys made was the Leclerc tank. Don't cope with your patriotic feeling that you guys won wwi and wwii it was the US both times, and your tank design was always mediocre at best. You should just buy Leo2s like the brits did and give up on designing tank when you can't!
Done by who??
Soviet and American tanks have always been much more armored than French thincans
"Le BR de la mort" like we say in France
The br of death?
@@TheEastNorthern na just the br IS death
@@dr.varity4389no the BR of death he's right
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YES FINALLY THE DCA AND BRENUS. IT HAS BEEN YEARS
The amx30s didn't need stabilisation due to the computer in the tank where you held down the trigger and when the gun lined up with the aimer it fired basically removing the need for one, however it seems hard to implement into warthunder. Just thought I'd share that information with you
With the AMX-30s I like to not ever use the breaks, cause the second you do or fully stop, you bounce. If you let go of the keyboard it is stable enough in a pinch... even if not as good as a stabilizer
Much respect for every france tank player with a Leclerc. You get so much pain on the way.
They can skip them. You can jump straight from 7.7 to 9.3 with stabilised tanks
@@DOLLARplaysI went through the cancer way, 7.7-Amx40 and then brenus and Leclerc, not worth it at all.
France is trash from beginning to end
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Ima french dude and, I've grind french ground tech tree without any premium vehicles and aircrafts 💀💀💀
But i think british tanks are more cursed than frog tanks cuz even with stab, mobility dont exist for most of them...
@@jeromedasilva9633I stopped at vickers mk 1 and swingfire its pure suffer with these two
@@DOLLARplays i just talismand' the surbaisse when it was 8.0 and never played beyond 8.0 till i got the leclerc lol, still doing that to this day with the azur and the 7.7 lineup
French players have been begging for a stabilized tank to compete for a while now and gaijin said they would add that amx10. French players were exited and glad that they were finally getting the stabilized version of the amx10rc. Then we saw it was a case mate tow missile version. Life of a French player is pain and agony that gaijin feeds off of.
yeah, if you want a light tank with a stabilizer, you need a premium, that's a fcking joke
It's not even stabilised lmao.
It says "stabilised" in the game but if you go ahead and use it, neither the ACRA launcher nor the 20mm are stabilised.
@@wallachia4797 wait that's true, that's some bullshit right there xD
French 8.7 arent easy to use, but after a few years of experience, i would take them against any russian mbt at the same BR. the mobility, LRF and thermal combo makes them so much better with my playstyle, and a whole lot more sastifiying to use. The only thing is to not get seen first. and city maps are hard. i mostly treat them as light tanks, except that its not because of the lack of armor (partially it is), but mostly because of the lack of stab
That’s the difficulty with balancing a game like this. A tank can be simultaneously under powered, OP, or perfectly balanced depending on play style and experience. It’s far from an easy thing to get right.
Does it get uptiered as much as 9.3, the super and 32 105 I'd really miserable going up against m1s and turms
My experience with FR is EXACTLY the same as yours, which honestly feels good as you are a good player.
- No stabilizer anywhere, while FR had plenty of stabilized versions IRL, so Gayjing is just being obnoxious as always.
- Having to play defensively all the time because of the lack of stabilizer, while you get 360 no-scoped by rubias tanks.
- Mars15 having ammo spread everywhere for no reason instead of packed in the turret first THEN in the lower part.
- SK having really good HEAT shells for some obscure reasons (which came as a good surprise).
- Most fun I had was with the DCA, which is somehow stronger than most tanks.
- ACRA is pretty good AFAIR.
The only reason to play France: To flex on Centurions that You are faster than they are while driving in reverse.
Well, they have many great vehicles, and I think it's a solid nation. But 8.7 is pain
@@DOLLARplays8.7 is bread? Huh?
I mean it french, they need it to retreat
Gotta have the retreat prepared as always don't ya think?
@haatonofthebasementoutofth276 the british built a tank backwards lmfao
They didn't expect the French inquisition ! HON HON HOOOOON
I'm maining France right now and just unlocked the leclerc. What the Brenus and other French 8.7 tanks taught me is how to time that suspension bounce as fast as I can. obviously not as good as a stab, but once you learn how the tank behaves, with the suspension, its almost predictable enough to get good with. it certainly helps when playing other non-stabbed vehicles.
I love a mobile vehicle in war thunder, and the french line is apparently my bread and butter. The AMX series of tanks are also weirdly tough - I've survived many rounds with the BRENUS with only two crew left, after having grabbed one from a cap.
Funnily enough, that's more or less what the French also did but with an automated system. So rather than keeping the gun steady they programmed it to fire when the suspension bounce exactly aligned with the gunner's aim.
Oh yeah! Thanks Betty for honor France🇨🇵 (No stab, French philosophy)
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This is a perfect example of why I proudly display your decal on my tanks. Your video's are not only highly entertaining, but also educational. You do it so well 🥰
(This intro was freaking awesome!)
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make sure to make use of the hydro-pneumatic suspension on the amx-10rc, it lets you have quite insane gun depression while keeping a very low profile. And when you're not using it for gun depression, lower your height to make your frame smaller, harder target to see and hit. btw Like one single bush is all it takes to cover up the front of the amx-10rc, very dirty if you play it like how the french designed it to be used.
Nothing is better than Dollar’s editing; you are the light in the darkness.
You are always so good at picking music for the video. You can clearly see the good quality content even in the first minute of video. I would definetely buy your merch if I could. Please keep making these amazing videos
I'm french main and first time I played AMX 30 BRENUS I first hated it but the more I play it the more I like it, now it's one of my favourite tank idk why
I think thats because you force yourself to git gud and the sensation of doing great after many deaths is refreshing
It's also called stockholm syndrome, or baguette addiction
when you pass to 8.7 to 11.7 with leclerc, i think it s the best moment lol
Not, at release time.
French was always a rough grind nation, with very costly repair costs on the few gems (namely the Lorraine 40t).
Playing with premium AMX30 + Premium account was already barely enough for a medium player to gain money.
Then you hit the 10+ ranks with a first variant of Leclerc with prohibitive repair cost and no APFSDS (HEATFS), and reconsider your priority in life, stop grinding and start enjoying the game at lower/balanced level.
Retrospectively, i don’t know why I imposed that to myself. Too much pain and frustration.
@@Guibod12 it always depends on how u play, french tanks have good mobility and the HEAT round slaps now since it does not get triggered by small obsticles, however they do suffer even with premiums, but thats how it is, some bigbrains decades ago made some poor decisions regarding their tanks (japan, france, GB and italy especially) and thats represented in the game now. However at 11.0 and above all nations perform good if you adjust the playstyle. I remember grinding the brits a few years ago before solid AP was fixed/buffed and you needed 3-4 side shots to kill a tank...dark times.
Fantastic commentary and analysis. Plus you offered a solution to the problem! Well done!
Ze editing is on point as always! Great Job DOLLAR!
Huh, is it weird if i really like this 8.7 french line-ul? Amx 30s are very durable and the sf105 has a 4 sec reload which makes it a great sniper. Very enjoyable.
Me too and for good reason too. My most played tanks in the game are the AMX-30s just because of their versatility. Nothing comes close to being a tank destoyer, an MBT and an SPAA at once.
@@bobitoiLeopard 2K is basically the upgraded version of the AMX30B2 tho. More armor, stabilizer, and 20mm on the roof for better handling and elevation angles.
@@vizender Defenetly but I don't have it yet and they just moved it behind 3 tanks I don't want so I don't think I'll play it within the next years or so :)
@@bobitoi damn. I have not research German tanks very high yet, only 6.3 or so, but from people that play both, that’s basically what it is. I am not sure it has better thermals than the AMXs tho, or if it even has thermals actually.
Even early French thermals are often gen 2 and the brenus is gen 2+ if I am correct, while German tanks usually have lacking thermals
@@vizender German MBTs get thermals incredibly late but it's not a big deal since I don't usually use thermals when playing the AMX30s or even the Type 16s. My main problem was getting to the Leo 2 because I was so tired of the Leo 1s. The Leo 2A4 and 2AV, even with DM12, is so much better IMO.
Best youtuber of all time. Keep it up and stay like this👍
Your videos never cease to amaze me and this one made me laugh pretty good. Especially when comparing 8.7 standard tanks to the French ones😂 Keep up the good work Dollar!
The Brenus have a very special place in my heart.
Felt like fighting with your right hand tied in your back, on such a great chassis. Really fun to play with a very tough downside, so in the end it was enough to disgust me from the game.
Continuing the French suffering, the French 7.3 lineup has been completely bumped to 7.7, with no stabilizers, LRFs, or apds, or apfsds. No matter the BR, gaijin hates France.
Always remember if you are in good position, you can even do good in a bad tank.
but in a city map (most of the maps are city maps or really close range maps) no stabilizer is very bad
That's true
Good to see you back again, you should try the shturm-a for anti heli gameplay antiair middle is op and lots of fun overall. Love to see the content
Your videos are always amazing, Thank you for your time and efforts Dollar!
Looking forward to a Indian T-90 video! Also, that "Welcome to the Rise fields" joke was hilarious
AMX-30s, unironically my favorite tanks, at 8.7 are in a very good very good spot. I was expecting it to go even higher than 8.7 after the changes. I researched the Leclerc just with the B2 and BRENUS.
B2 sucks ass, it's a shittier 10RC that's .3 higher. 20mm is nice but not worth the lost mobility and higher br. The SK is way better at the same br.
You're a mad lad😂 imagine how you would do with the stabiliser
You have done many excellent & entertaining videos but with this one you outperformed yourself, imho.
I kept laughing watching your (mis)adventures, from the intro sequence to the (spot on) conclusion. This was a blast (pun intended).
A warm thank you, and a GG from a French guy btw 😉
This is one of my favourite lineups ngl, and i think its perfect already not really needing any balancing
French players finally have a really delicious Baguette tank👌👌👌
Hey Dollar what about new French box tank amx-10M ?
Some time later. Now I have some more spicier stuff to try 😉
Yes! Finally! I've been waiting for this!
This video is STRATOSPHERIC, I loved the meme-film combination, one of the best videos you've ever made 😍
Gajin : put the worst 8.3 vehicle in game and nerf it to 8.7
Edit : only let the best vehicle (30-DCA) at 8.3
Another dollar video absolutely made my day. Love you man❤
wow your channel has grown so much i love your vids cant Waite to see you hit 500k
Thank you for the laughs and making my day better already.
Lmfao the pure suffering gave me a chuckle. Thanks for all you do dollar
France seems fun, however the lack of the stabilizer makes me consider if i won't suffer grinding it. I have very good time with amx m4, lorraine 40t ect. due to their super smooth suspension but i don't know how it works on higher tiers. Great vid dollar!!
i play warthunder about 6-8 mouths and i was not very well at this ,but since i watch i geting better in this game ,every film you record i try to watch to get some new skills .so i want to tell to you THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for including the music - I like synthwave/retrowave
i love how you show the good.. and the bad. even if you get popped its still a good laugh. thank you for the entertainment 🤘
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7:54 Comedic timing was golden on this one
amazing video as always!
the AMX-30 reverse gear is just **Chefs kiss** ive gotten kills so many times when ive been hit, popped smoke and boogied out the way in reverse faster than the enemy can charge where they think i am, my crew has changed or ive stopped and repaired, in time to see the enemy that hit me skirt around my smoke looking for me, and i pop them
France: building serial cars with highly sofisticated hydro-pneumatic hydractive suspension for no reason since 1957.
Also France: building tanks with no stabiliser.
nice video as always master betty! also i think the next video is pretty obvious, the leader of all derp gun in game, VIDAR 😎
Your editing skills are top-notch! I've bursted out of laughter many times, but especially 6:15 catched my heart 😅
In 1989 you couldn’t drink the water in Paris and they couldn’t figure out how to stabilize a tank gun.
they figured it out, there was just no money to buy the upgrade and hence was removed from the adopted tank
Glad to see another Dollar WT vid💚❤💚
That was one of the most surprisingly awesome use of "Welcome to the rice fields, mothertrucker!" I have ever witnessed. Kudos Betty! Bloody brilliant! 👏
Dollar u need to play the new Italyen vehicles, much love on the new vid tho hella nice❤
Man i was waiting for this video for a looooong time,i didn't now if i was bad or those tank were bad,now i have an answer !
Man I watch all your vids but this one was painful! This is where I'm at with France and I'm not too excited.
Yeah the AMX-30 (1972) does okay. It only has Heat, no rangefinder, no stabilizer, and is at 8.0. The lack of stabilizer sucks but you can deal with it, but at 8.3 it starts becoming really painful
The hell do you mean, the AMX-30 (1972) has a rangefinder. Not a laser one, but a normal one is already a great help.
@@hunlepto2239 my bad, you right
Truly one of the WHEN YOU PLAY FRANCE AT 8.7...(War Thunder) momentos of all time. Also, keep up yhe good work, Dollar! Love your content!
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love your videos!
yeah it took me many many months to get nearly maxed out in the french tree. Horrible grind without the stabilizers but I have to say your machine guns on AMX makes short work of lights and planes and even heavies I often pen through weak points and kill off some crew.
Are you planning on making a VIDAR video soon?
And amazing video as always, Dollar ;)
As someone who has grinded the amx 30s. It is the purest form of cbt that you can experience in war thunder.
I got the day off from Work Today and it's perfect when dollar Plesi Uploads! :D
I don't know why, but 8.3/8.7 french tanks really gave me the most fun of all the trees. Sure the lack of stabilizer is frustrating at first, but adapting the playstyle, using the great mobility and gun pen is rewarding.
I love your edits lovit
The Eirel APS works really well as soon as the enemy ATGM launcher has to adjust their aim
0:06 im already suffering from the mostrosity called hawaiian pokebowl
Betty Sir, this video is soooo great. Made my day😂😂
It's time to test German Puma 2 in 10 BR
I love when the music starts and we about to get freaky
15:07 I swear that IT went beyblade for a second
That intro, "Are you ready for pain?" 😂😂😂
I know I am in for a treat when I see that.
Good stuff Dollar, too bad French 8.7 is not good though.
When you laser rangefind with an unstabilized tank, the gun wobbles a bit when it adjusts, especially for bigger adjustments. You should wait a tiny bit after rangefinding before you shoot, or you will overshoot the target.
Dollar: How did that bounce
Instantly served by Gaijin magic.
The first 6 minutes is exactly how for the past 11 years RB felt for me, everytime I tried it.
This was like a review for me before I played the new update. (Love this Br france however I struggle to get past it) currently stuck at 8.7/9.3
Hey Dollar, love your stuff and the new update brought alot of stuff, it also brought the USS Arkansas, and im from Arkansas, anyway you could play the new ships in the future for a vid
1st also dollar will you be making a video on aircraft due to the addition of rita snd betty?
cool video once again keep it up
Very surprised to see a clip from 1979's "Sphinx" I thought only old people like me, knew of that film.🤘🏻
Honestly, I haven't watched the movie, I only have that clip. But maybe I should watch it😉
Love your vids
Just grinded through this br …thank god it is over. Such a slow playstyle and grind for me. Can feel ur pain Dollar xD
And by the way thanks for the great content. Keep it up 💪🏼
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Great video as always I have a question for everyone I got burnt out today in my 11.3 leopard squadron tank I had apfsds rounds and I was set fire I put it out it started again used them again and then I cooked off like I had HE ammo in that a new thing??
Always the best editing on youtube
Love it Dollar
Hahahahahaha i love your videos man xD very BEAUTIFUL
DOLLA, WHERE DO YOU GET THESE FUNKY CATCHY MUSICS AND SYNTHWAVES?
(Thanks for always putting the credits, it helps to find them XD)
the alex jones reference got me so good, love you dollar
stopped playing WT entirely when the drone update came out and I so do not miss it. Still your videos are pure entertainment :D
Same lol
dollar do u have any tips for top tier, i went from usa 3.3 tanks and planes to i just got m1a1 aim through grinding it. I have apfsds and i can take out like 4 tanks before i die but i have no idea how to operate drones and if i use backups im just gonna get sniped from spawn. any tips on how to use drone and how not to die instantly?
The SK is so good. 105mm apfsds with 4sec auto loader? You can pretty reliably lock down a corridor against several enemies.