The Worse Gun Ive Ever Shot!
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2023
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Gun snobbery is everywhere turn up with a £50 sxs and see the looks you get, enjoying the sport and encouraging youngsters into it is the most important factor.
I think it’s the first time I’ve seen a blue sky on this channel. Great to see the targets. I do like the look of the kick pad also.
Great program David. People do think that Turkish guns all the same but the simply don’t. There are dozens of shotgun manufacturers in Turkey. But the top are Yuldiz and ATA
Always great information cheers 👍🏻
I have a Hanstan 20 bore pump,and a 12 bore semi automatic I shoot for pheasants and waterfowl.....they both have worked perfect ....I look at the over unders. But I went with the Yildiz ,it just felt better and more balanced....great video !
Personally I prefer guns to be fairly light but muzzle heavy. Best of both worlds. Easy to carry and shoulder yet still has the controllable swing of a heavier gun. I want my best guns to be both usable in the field and on the range.
Thats going to make someone whos already purchased one feel really confident 😢
Puts cartridges in the gun takes safety off then turns it upside down and messes about with trigger, bravo, no worse a gun than a yildiz spz
It was empty. He part loaded then removed it.
@@williambeard5526 did you even watch it, he put two cartridges in it, flicks safety off then turns it and touches the trigger, watch it again before commenting
@@fullchoke01Nope. Fullchoke, you yourself either didn’t watch the video or you’re blind amd need new reading glasses. @03:20 he clearly loads it, then immediately and quickly REMOVES both rounds to an EMPTY CHAMBER. He then closes the action with an UNLOADED gun before messing with the muzzle end of the shotgun.
@@colt10mmsecurity68 you going to admit you where wrong and appoligise or ?????
Fullchoke is correct.
Being a farmer myself, you wouldn't be able to operate farm machinery. So i would call the gun a bit TSC.... 😂😂
Gun snobbery at its finest
The recoil system looks like a Browning Cinergy hunter system. So if it had a trigger job would it make much difference to you?
Got a Hatsan semi for wildfowling never missed a beat
He did say the semis were ok
Another Great Video David💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I own a hassan optima silver synthetic . Also a baikal 27e the hassan is heavy , pig ugly but kills things just as dead as my other guns. It's my go to rough gun I like it for its ruggedness and it feels solid made. To me it's just a tool to get a job done whatever that may be.
Every time someone tells I’m going to be honest I think he’s been dishonest up to now.
As a complete novice, what would you recommend for the £300 mark, please?
The Baikal model 27 offers properly squared action parts, which are chrome plated against corrosion, rebounding hammers, intercepting safeties to prevent accidental discharge. Does the tested OU offer any of these features? I am guessing it does not. I
Hello Dave, I have seen a under and over but not used, I have used the semi-auto and I could not get on with it in any shape or from.
I would like to add that Hatsan do have a bad name, but I haven’t had any issues with mine. 1000+ rounds through my escort and not even a feed issue and it even cycles 21g’s.
It does the same job as a silver pigeon but cheaper. No different to buying a fiesta vs buying a Lamborghini in my humble opinion
I use to think this---and for the most art you are correct. But how it's balanced makes a big issue. My son has an auto loader that 1 pound heavier than my Browning over under. He he hits way better with mine and he thinks mine is lighter. Can one compensate to operates a bad balanced gun--sure...but you have to shoot consistently.
@@coreybiggs8626 That’s very true, very true indeed.
But it also comes down to gun fit aswell, not just weight.
When you say you need to compensate by shooting consistently….consistency is the key to breaking clays every time
Tip of the YEAR re these budget guns (nothing wrong in that BTW, not everyone can afford a Beretta) is this, just FORGET 30 inch barrels, and get a 28 inch versions instead and suddenly you have a gun that actually shoots really bloody well. I am currently holding a 28 inch Koff 20 bore for a female friend of mine whilst she applies for her SGC and have tried it out on our shoot and my cartridge ratio is the equal of my 30 inch 695 (if not slightly better but lets not tell her that!). By chance the best shot in our syndicate just happened to purchase the exact same 20 bore for his son, also 28 inch and I have witnessed him bringing down seriously high birds with it, and now he cannot sing its praises enough. Folks, PLEASE just forget the snobbery and just appreciate that these so called "cheap" Turkish guns can bring home the bacon as long as you accept that all you need to do is alter your mindset by accepting that they are muzzle heavy and so you just buy them 2 inches shorter because after all, "2 extra inches doesn't matter as much as technique" as the actress said to the Bishop!
Or just buy a decent 2nd hand gun like a nikko, winchester etc the market is flooded with cheap guns at the moment its a buyers market you can even get something like an old 686 cheaper than a new kofs/yildiz. You'll save money and have something atleast half decent quality wise and designed for sporting and not a field gun and probably have a better trade in value should you decide to ever PX it in.
Great point. 28" barrels are great. Long barrels is pure fashion (as were 25" barrels once upon a time). If you can't hit a target with a shorter barreled gun, go and have a lesson.
I traded in a Beretta 686 Gold E for a Yildiz Pro. And have shot consistently better ever since. My Pro has 30’ barrels and is not bow heavy.
@@martinsteven2643 Yes I have heard the Pros are well balanced. Yildiz are very good guns.
@@MalcolmPowder I started out with a 26 inch sxs and shot high pheasants with it for 3 seasons. One of the best shots I know only shoots with a pair of 26 inch SXS. Your brain adapts to the gun you use, as you say 30 inch barrels are just a fad.
I've got on of the magnificent shotguns and never ever missed with it Now I'm 1000X1000
shooting trap and Still counting!!! I can even shoot with my eyes closed (although I wouldn't recommend doing so) AND STILL HIT THE CLAY!!! When I show up at a trap or skeet shoot with this shotgun I'm automatically awarded 25, 50 75 or 100 straight hands down!!
Que hermosa escopeta hatsan ,yo tengo una Ata SP me salio exelente como las yildiz que tambien salieron buenas,uno compra a lo que le alcansa el presupuesto,saludos desde chile
Because for the price of that you could get a ATA sp sporter which in my opinion just looks and handles way better than
Most guns and most cartridges are better than most shooters!
looks better and I bet works better than them old Bettinsoli things ,it works ok, so why slag it off ,as for barrel heavy put some weight in the stock simples!
Maybe because you could buy an ATA that looks like a Silver Pigeon for 499 at the time.
Recoil pad is reminiscent of a Browning Cynergy composite
Poor tradesman always blame the tools!😆
The kick pad is the same as the Browning Black Ice.
Worst?
I have this identical gun over 13-years....honestly is too heavy...but I very sucsesfully hunt partridges, woodcocks, quails, rabbits, ducks with it..this gun have hard chromed barrels inside/outside and very good turkish walnut oil finished stock. I had no problems with this rifle except the her weight :D t is very heavy...
I have checked these, barrels are too heavy. It dips due to weight in front. Otherwise it looks good with little recoil. Ata tristar yaldiz or huglu are good 👍
stock weight
@@Jolly56Roger receiver is made of steel and weight is almost equal to the barrels but the stock is very light. Tried by putting some weight in the stock but then the gun became very heavy.
@@Jolly56Roger yes I know, but the gun will get heavy. Good for skeets but not upland hunting
Good scrub gun for the ute, can get a synthetic stock version as well.
browning cynergy copy recoil pad. Can't expect much for that money
I bought a Baikal and am ok!
I bought 3! Got an old double trigger USSR IJ-27-E, and 2 single trigger MP27's, one with a 76mm chamber and interchangeable chokes. All 3 combined have cost less than this Hatsan on display and personally, I'm quite happy with them.
My grandson asked me to choose one gun I picked up my 20 bore side by side multi choke Baikal he looked at me and laughed ' I've shot far more with that than any Beretta or browning that I've ever owned luv the point ability of it " comes up to the shoulder well what more do you want, takes heavier loads , ok not the prettiest thing your ever going to see but to put something on the table job done " I've used it for ducks on flight ponds in the pigeon hide and on rough shoots " let's put it like this I wouldn't part with it, there's guns that cost a hell of a lot more money that would go first . 👍
You will be getting Hatsan on your back slagging them off ,woops😮😮🤣🤣
I’m amazed, when I saw the title of the vid I just assumed it would be a Beretta 😂
Must be an older version of this gun or something. I have one of these, and it doesn't have that recoil system on it, and it's really not all that barrel heavy. For the price so far, I've been impressed with it. Ive shot a few rounds of sporting clays with it and it shoots great.
Wouldn’t trade my Baikal. Once I cleaned it up by refinishing the wood and adding a fiber optic front bead it looks much nicer and points better. I also replaced the brick of a recoil pad with a softer sporting clays pad. It made all the difference.
I have a Baikal U/O I paid 95 quid for. I’m not a wealthy bloke…..I loved it so much I went and bought an older SBS Baikal for 35 quid 😂 Now I’d love a Silver Pigeon…..but I dare say the end results would still be the same. No matter how much you spend.
I think one day soon though the inability to put steel through the 1/2 and full choke barrels may be the deciding factor, I better start saving…..
Never even heard of this brand. That recoil pad may work well but it is ugly as sin. Maybe the addition material removed from the butt throws off the balance.
My first sxs was like that ,muzzle heavy piece of crap that shot one barrel on and the other 3 ft low and to the right. An entry level gun should at least make you better ,not worse
Now I shoot a WC Scott 😊
Pretty sure you’ve had a few biakals on here and lauronas
Hey Bud...if you really don't want it, I'd be delighted to take it off your hands!
Is it me or does the guy working the release on the trap need to work on his reflex speed. Having worked as a scorekeeper on a trap field for many years all a can concentrate on are the slow pulls. I would have been demoted for pulls that late for sure.
Doesn't matter whot name was on this brand escort or hatssn always let you down
think😉there are expensive guns n pretty guns n inexpensive guns but most farmers have guns their grandads had n they still kill things perfectly.
this guy is so predictable... ITS A $500 GUN!!!!! usually bags guns he doesnt sell in his shop..
It's the worse? The very worse??
Oscar?
I Know A Guy Who Owns One He Does Ok With It !!
Semi autos are farm guns! They aint nice to shoot! The O/U i doubt they ever got chance to learn
But that's just your opinion it seems to shoot well
I’m sure I own “worse” guns, but they all have a place and I appreciate them for something.
You’ll never buy the perfect gun for you first try, so kiss some frogs and work out what works for you, then you’ve got a chance of finding “the one” - it’s all part of the fun.
Baikal are Russian they also make the famous Vostok MU8 known as the indestructible gun so well made, Joe Neville shot one got the first 200 straight Olympic skeet so not to bad really .!
I'm not a brilliant shot by any means on clays, but I have recently scored much better with my cheapy than other chaps who've turned up with their A list guns and the rest of the gear. If you can't shoot doesn't matter what you've got , if you can shoot you'll make whatever work for you. Not every one can afford the top notch guns so we put up with heavy barrels, heavy actions, heavy triggers, garden variety gun slips and yet we come home with rabbits and ducks.
Absolutely spot on I have beaten the perazzi and Beretta boy's with a sxs gas pipe,an old gun dealer once said to me the nut behind the butt.aim in the right direction and you will hit it
Worst
Sorry, "Worst" , not Worse in this case.
I bought a Hatsan air rifle. Large caliber: 6.35 mm. Powerful and accurate rifle. But the butt is generally inconvenient for shooting! I had to redo it. But the price is great and the sniper scope is great. Shoots powerfully and accurately.
Who 😂
Low quality Turkish copies...
Guns you have to break apart in the middle are not guns..
Tell us you know nothing about guns without telling us you know nothing about guns. Tick.
Hatsans are rubbish