Jason's 1640cc 2 stroke turbo. Read description below before commenting!
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2018
- UPDATE due to excessive comments! THIS I repeat THIS sled was not mine I was only there to record the day. This was the sleds first time on the ice and due to drastic weather conditions there wasn't enough daylight to tune it in time to make a pass. Sled has been sold as of Feb. 2019
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This video left me with the worst case of blue balls ever 😭
We want to see this thing run man!
I'm sorry. I was jus there to record the event. Hopefully the new owners send it
Right fuuuck the whole time I was like go dude
Wanted to see it take off as well
Good God son... Totally left me hangin' that dam thing was going to the moon and I wanted to see it.
this big 2 stroke gives nightmares, whats next a 4-53 2 stroke detroit diesel in a snowmobile!
1600ccm pullstart? Has it stolen any arms yet? lol. Awesome build :)
Its the hydrogen 2 stroke
Once you get the bad boy dialed in your going to fly! 2 stroke and a turbo! ! ! 👍awesome!
Owner sold this machine about a month ago 😢
I get to get get my turbo 2 stroke 8v92 running, it takes 8 gallons of Klotz techniplate r, 44$ a gallon, too much I’ll go with shell rotella with some amsoil dominator cut it
mart.cummins.com/imagelibrary/data/assetfiles/0058689.pdf
Now imagine a 3.28L OP 2 stroke tripple like the 2 stroke OP ACE Cummins! Achates power and Fairbanks Morse needs to get in on this. How about a 1700 Rotax OP 2 stroke made from 2 850 etec engines. You would have to lay it down though.
that thing is beast :D
ringading ding-sounds immense but how does it go!!
Incredible, wow! Nice freaking work boys
Stay close to the petrol station :D
By the way i'm jealous :)
Here’s a trick. When you shut the sled off for the night. Put the choak on under it gets under a load then turn it off with the choak on. It works every time.
Mean to say when it gets under a load. Then turn it off
To fill the bowl? This has Lectron carbs . Also sled was sold just after this video and motor went into a drag quad
Damn! 547cc's per hole. 😳 WITH a pull-start... 😈
Reminds me of a turbo car staging at the light, sounds crazy af. Ever get a chance to see it in action?
Nope. Owner sold it shortly after I shot this video. Motor is in a drag quad now
@@suggett48116 bummer. Cool nonetheless. Just to hear it running is worthwhile imo.
Imagine an opposed piston 2 stroke 3280 3.28L 2 stroke turbo triple based on achates power
Brave starting that by hand!
The beginning of the video you can see they couldn't start it without the secondary clutch installed.....it wouldn't move lol
WTF! THAT IS ONE AWESOME BUILD!
Guy had 85k invested. Sled sold about 2 months after this video was shot and motor is now in a drag quad
Hold my beer. *jumps on. . He gone.
thats a lot of power and energy there, detroit diesel and fairbanks morse could lear a lesson here.
czcams.com/video/oRpRVKdSy1w/video.html, 2502 cubic inch flat 12 2 stroke over 90 psi, drop that in your sled, its an 11 port 2 stroke turbo
Glad to see it makes noise
Thanks for the comment and thanks for reading the description 😉
What kind of ECU do you use and how do you remapp this
Blew up before it ever moved
Sounds like a reliable setup to have back woods fun on.....
Is that the owner having 2nd thoughts @ 1:30 ?
He's wearing yellow gloves, with wobbling knees.
The owner was the one sitting on it.
Hit the throttle and you be looking like a halloween mummy in minutes.
It put down 540hp on low boost. This season it should make a pass for sure
@@suggett48116 Wow. That must be the quickest reply ever 😮 Good luck with your snowmobile 😎
Damn I want to take 4 of these 2 stroke triples and make an opposed piston 6 inline 8 liter 2 stroke diesel, why wait around for Acates Power, jump junkers op and Fairbanks Morse op bad add op 2 strokes
That's how I threw out my rota-tor cup left shoulder,.....................then I installed a starter and battery. 1500 cc ain't easy
It eventually received the starter hub and a portable electric starter. Sled was torn apart by the new owner and chassis is for sale
i fucking hake 4 joke and thang god this big 2 stroke crushes them once and for all! Let ther be a 2 stroke that spits pout a 5500 deg hydrogen flame that melts, burns and destroys 4 jokes! hydrogen burning flame throwing 2 stroke here we come! 5500 degrees flame will destroy any 4 joke stroke and i would love that
whats next a 4-53 2 stroke detroit diesel!
its 3500 cc 2 stroke inline 4
@@jlo13800 jesus man
All show and no giddyup and go. :)
That is quite the build
Were is the vid of the run??
Mine is a twin to this sled, I only use mine to go ice fishing and I’m always the first one at the site….
How often do you have to rebuild that motor? Seems like something that needs to be gone through often.
You are missing the point here mate.
If it doesn’t move, what’s the point?
Soooooooo does it move?
All show...?
JUST GUNNA SEND IT ITS GUNNA BE A GOOD DAY
Quite Knarlly, Dude.🏁
Lets see it go this winter, and how much hp
Owner sold it recently. It did put down 540hp on low (13psi) boost and was built for 30psi.
MSD 6-AL2? The screens on the laptop look real familiar to me..
I was only there to record video I don't know much about the electronics. The sled was sold for pennies shortly after this was made and motor went into a sand drag quad
I read the description and I’m still commenting.
That was exciting
You were not the only one let down. Sled has been sold motor went into a quad racer
I can see from here all this boost pressure losing it by exhaust port
What a widow maker!
so you can put a monster tach on a 2stroke! my kawasaki h2 750 has one waiting. nice sled you guys have. hope it rips! good luck!
Here is a sick 2 stroke turbo:m.czcams.com/video/oRpRVKdSy1w/video.html, now mount this on that sled!
daym lets see it ride
Wow that thing is fast!.
Should have been. Sled never got one hit down ice, grass, or tar. The new owner ripped the engine, pipes, carbs, and electrical out of it and posted the rolling chassis for sale
@@prostockultra5722 I meant no disrespect just really wanted to see a good RIP.
@@valiant7357 I didn't read it in any negative way. I just meant that the guy who owned it ended up selling it. And the new owner robbed all the goodies out of the engine bay and has the roller for sale.
@@prostockultra5722 what a shame!.
@@valiant7357 I completely agree. This video and any pics taken of this sled did no justice. It was unbelievably sick!
Ho much hp gives the Turbo more? U watch the Computer for the air?
I just filmed it not the builder
Did you get this thing running right yet?
They had it running good the day before inside. The owner sold the snowmobile shortly after this was recorded
What motor is in this would love to have one to put in a bike or atv
Custom build 1620cc aluminum block. Based off Polaris. The motor is currently in a drag quad
Way to rev it!
This was its first time on ice since it was built. It needed lots of tuning which we never got adjusted this day.
I'm wondering how u can put turbo in a 2 stroke if it doesn't have valves to prevent pressurized air from holding the cylinder in a fine position
I think the exhaust acts as the valve. I was just the video guy but I can find out
It's all based on the expansion chamber of the exhaust. Two strokes use pressure waves to put the air fuel ratio back into the cylinder. The harder the pressure wave the bigger the cylinder charge. That's why two stroke motors don't run without an exhaust syetem
@@jacknuts1777 They do run good , the smoke cloud is truly impressive
@henrycarlson7514 let me rephrase that, they don't built horsepower without the expansion chamber unless it's a triple with a shared manifold.
@@jacknuts1777 I agree it is better to have an exhaust, sadly it broke off by the head pipe miles from any where. On the other hand if you look at the old race sleds they used zoomies like dragsters . Happy new year
All i can say is, i was let down
the only 2 stroke inline 4 is a 4-53 detroit and sounds sick
Are you macking any more vids of sleds
Might make some but not this sled. Owner (Jason) sold this machine in January 😢
How to you build one for low compression when there are no valves?
It's all in the heads.
@@prostockultra5722 it is all in the boost and the fuel you are running , which depends on altitude.
@@johnbabb1138 the fuel is chosen due to the specifications of the heads and the timing one runs. Or so my buddy said when I was standing a foot from the sled in this video talking about it.
@@prostockultra5722 turbo setups for mountain sleds run stock heads for the most part .
@@johnbabb1138 and the heads on this are nowhere near anything "stock". Lol.
Where in michigan, hear 94.7 on radio
This was at Anchor Bay. Sled owner was from U.P. sled was sold shortly after this was recorded
Need so.e more vids of this thing in action
Sled was sold and motor ended up in a 4 wheeler I'm told
@@suggett48116 whyyyyyyyyy would u sell that thing
Well that's terrifying just to rev while standing still...
It woulf be nice to power this 2 stroke off of hydrogen which its caple of and use the rest of the energy to drive an o2 h2 flame to destroy any 4 joke stroke which would be nice. i fucking hate 4 joke strokes and thank god for Clarke uni-flow 2 stroke and Dar loop scavenged 2 strokes:czcams.com/video/HQLOnwLinUc/video.html
And your suppised to ride it how exactly?
You point the sled in the general direction you hope to go, then pin that sucker and pray...lol....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe
Turbos are massively ineficient on 2 strokes. Will make more power but not to its full potential thanks to half the boost going out the exhaust.
Can someone explain how a turbocharged 2 stroke would function? Could this work on a road bike?
Exactly !!! (and no changes if its a snowmobile, bike car or plane..)
Just like any other engine.. Everyone says, "The boost would just blow out the exhaust, and it would never work".
Well, guess what? That's how a 2 stroke works when it's N/A, so with boost, it'll work just the same.
Fuel and air enter the crank case through a one way valve or a rotary valve that opens and closes when the piston goes up and creates low pressure inside the case. The incoming air/fuel charge is now trapped inside the crankcase, and the piston is at the top of it's stroke. As the piston goes down, the area inside the crankcase is shrinking and pressurizing the fuel/air charge inside of it. As the piston travels down even further, it uncovers the exhaust port, and some ports that lead from the crankcase up into the top of the cylinder. That pressurized fuel/air charge now escapes up through those ports into the cylinder, above the piston. As the piston rises, it closes the exhaust and intake ports, trapping the fuel/air mixture in the combustion chamber to be fired. The issue with ALL 2 strokes, N/A OR Turbo, is that during the time that BOTH the exhaust port AND crankcase transfer ports are uncovered by the piston, some of the fresh air/fuel mix blows out the exhaust port as it rushes into the cylinder from the crankcase transfer port. That's where the special expansion chamber exhaust pipe comes in... The pipe reflects some of the acoustical energy from the exhaust pulse and reflects it back towards the exhaust port, helping to push some of the escaping fresh charge right back into the cylinder, and stop it from flowing out more until the piston rises enough to cover the ports. Then BANG, and the cycle repeats.
So, a turbo on a 2 stroke won't just "blow out the exhaust", anymore than an N/A's pressurized charge from the crankcase does if the pipes are built right.
Yes, there is some loss out the exhaust, but so is there on an N/A 2 stroke. The turbo simply crams more air density into the crankcase, and from then on out, the rest happens just the same as it would if the engine was N/A, but it makes more power because of the increased air/fuel charge introduced into the engine.
I never knew you could turbo a 2stroke.
Me too
How they have factory turbo sleds
You can its just not as efficient as a 4 stroke. You loose boost potential out the exhaust so you can only run a little bit to increase air flow.
Why would you put the wastegates so far from the turbo lol... looks cool?
I'm just the video guy lol. I don't know but will get an answer for you I'm sure they is a reason
Quad442w40 step inside please
Gates are in the bellies of the pipe to bleed pressure and temperature from that zone.. that allows us to control a few things.. firstly turbine speed by bleeding pressure ( STD gate job ) second by bleeding pressure and temp in the pipe belly we have more control over wave speeds in the the pipe.. ( actually it's a measure of controlling wave over speed or pipe overdrive due to the increased pressure density and temperature ) ..
There's quite alot more to explain. But this should help as to why things are where they are.
Lag is a lie in our world. - Rob_0t
@@quad442w40 In theory wastegates arent designed to bleed wave reverberations though, moreso pressure, where the most effective wastegate placement would be on the turbine housing itself(as close to the pressure as possible). Not to mention the loss of the belly shape when the wastegate will open on boost, will weaken the resulting wave back to the cylinders...?
It's fair to say in theory a wastegate wasn't likely ever thought to be used on 2 stroke engine to begin with .. ..
The pipe is the boss.. but when we add a few hundred degrees .. double the gas density at minimum. And increase the pressure by a factor of 10. We have found pipes peaking at 700-1200 rpm higher than designed .. so after testing with single gates at the turbine. Gating the collector a lil ways from the turbine. Gate on the reversion cone
. And finally belly gates gates gave us the control and stability needed.
I thought for sure he was goin for a ripper , anyhow it sure
L👀KS like a handful
Ffing nice machine... fuck the bad coments... 👍👍👍
I thought my 98 SRX triple triple sounds good... that things amazing!
This sled was sold last week 😢
suggett48116 oh come on why
@@thedriven1415 owner had other obligations. $15K and it could have been yours
suggett48116 did u get some video?
@@thedriven1415 this is most of the video I have of this sled. I live 12hrs from where it was stored so nothing else sorry
The engine is completely custom or is based on something exisisting ?
Based off Polaris
@@suggett48116 thanks !
Well that sucks. Any videos of it doing a pass? That you know of?
No it did suck. Sled was sold and motor is going into a drag 4 wheeler I'm told
Take 4 of these triples and make an opposed piston inline 6, like Fairbanks Morse, it would be 6.4 L
im here with my 50cc
How the fuck do we even make a word to describe this?!
I’ve never seen 2step On a fucking 2stroke that’s seriously mad
I am the 1k subscriber xD
My god what next an 8v71 detroit deisel 2 stroke in a sled, shell give you 568 CID of uni flow 2 stroke power! Make it lighter though, my 8v92 2 stroke is too heavy!
Niceee
Electric start would be nice on this one
This snowmobile was sold about 2 weeks ago. Owner Jason never got to ride it
@@suggett48116 whaaaatttt!?!?!?! Build something like this and never ride wtf
@@realkilju I'm with you on that
Is it just me or is the tuning horribly off on this. Sounds lean on throttle squeeze... looks shiny but would like to see how it actually runs
U gave me blue balls with this video lol
How many gallons per mile?
Unfortunately this sled was a build that took several years and owner needed to sell it before he ever rode it. This is the only video I have (I think we all have) of it running lol
Worth every drop
How much was it to build
About $80k
Else a very common Big Stu..d !!!! .... 😆
Does it have a trac on it?
Yeah it was completely ride ready just couldn't get it to run correctly in the weather we had. Tuned it inside the night before and had it close but it changed when we got to the ice
Shitty
motor turbo and fuel setup?
Quad442w40 where you at?
1640cc 3cyl two stroke. Forced performance super99 turbo . 50mm lectron carbs. MSD digital7 . C23 fuel
This could power the bow thruster on our boat which already has a 8v71 2 stroke detroit
@@quad442w40 wow those are like $1200 turboes!
How’s this for a 2 stroke turbo:m.czcams.com/video/oRpRVKdSy1w/video.html, have PSI Genesis give that a port and polish
Didn't even know you can turbo a 2 stroke...how much boost?
Was built for 30psi. On the dyno it hit 540hp running 12psi
Damnnnnnnn
He was skeered to take off😂
🤫
Fukin thing runs like shit on the ice bogging blowing smoke 💨
You got me all the way fucked up..
my neigbhours would love that they freack out of 85cc lmao
First question why second question why not
@2:04 Shut it down!! Before it blows up!! Loll
Exactly why it never went down the ice this day.
I'm glad to see two stokes. Don't like the new 4 strokes. Nothing like a two stroke triple. Mach z
all that and no run down the lake what the hell
"ppl turbocharged 2str for decadies.." yes, but (ONLY) unidirectional 2 stroke engines
What is the name of that engine
It was a custom billet 1640cc block based off Polaris
Turbo a two stroke....how does that work?
It works good on 2 stroke Detroit diesel too, my 8v92 has blower and turbo to pressurize it!
Mine has roots blower, it’s takes sae 40 low ash and burns some of it, my wankel is on premix though and I throw in some amsoil dominator for it
Here is a sick flat 12 turbo 2 stroke that’s 2500 CID:m.czcams.com/video/oRpRVKdSy1w/video.html
Marv Jorgensen would hop right on that!!😉
That computer should be out in the field also not just for indoors it could be programmed for indoors rather then in the field
Scared that when it start id loose my ears...welll immmmm deafffff nowwww...hummm ...what
Fuckinf sick...damn
Ear plugs And ear muffs needed for this baby. Wow
Nice engine for a racebike
Looks like a deathtrap 😂
Is there a way to make a 6 banger 2 stroke without having to resort to a heavy outboard or 4-53 or 6-53 detroit diesel 2 stroke! The 6v53 is heavy, my johnson l is a heavy ole america 2 stroke gal with huge rods and my 8v92 detroit is nuts and i gotta but 6 gallons of synthetic 2 stroke motul 800 2t for her! I got the ole 8v92 on quicksilver TCW3 full synthetic for now and i got 6 gallons so far so good, i hate shell rotella 2T
Idle 2,000 rpm
shits getting serious when you see waste gates on fricking expansion chambers
What in gods Holy creation is this?
Divine inspiration
m.czcams.com/video/oRpRVKdSy1w/video.html
How the hell do you turbocharge a 2 stroke engine?
It's quite common now
@@suggett48116 but a 2 stroke engine doesn't have valves, how do you stop the turbo pressure from shooting straight through the cylinder into the exhaust?
@@thijsv8814 I need the big guy in video to answer these questions but not sure how to tag people on CZcams lol. Hang on
@@suggett48116 i'm planning on building a turbocharged 125cc 2 stroke supermoto, hence the question :)
@@thijsv8814 are you on Facebook? Message me I'll get you all the info you need. Send me way to contact you
Ok,??? The engine stand is a snowmobile frame?? ...when i see it rip the track off at 100+ mph, then I'll be impressed, all 2 stroke doubles and tripples sound the same with tuned pipes.
Twins sound nothing like triples
Let me know when she is running at full power and is booked on Kennedy Space Center's Launch Schedule . Elon's Tesla in space has nothing on this thing lol
Jason sold this sled last week.
Thanks for letting me know ...
I was making a humorously flattering
Comment ...
Scale this 2 stroke up to a 930 cubic inch inline 6 and then use water arc plasma explosions to power it, the plasma could tap ZPE for a pulsed plasma ball lightning powered 2 stroke
Imagine that engine in a buggy.
The sled was sold and engine went into a quad
@@suggett48116 holy shit
Cool now let's see if it can outrun a avalanche...you only get one chance don't let off the throttle.
Wow its fast
The triple wasn’t fast enough as he went with this:
m.czcams.com/video/oRpRVKdSy1w/video.html