We had the absolute perfect opportunity last night to cement our credentials. A no.2 spot beckoning. Great teams just go out and do the business. With Gawn and Petracca missing it should have been a hard day in the office but a sign off! Alas .... Forget wet weather, good teams know how to play those conditions. To say I have been cranky all day is an understatement. No mainstream media because of sheer embarrassment. How long do we have to wait?? Great Show. But back to mediocrity for us....
"Great teams just go out and do the business." Well said, glad Brad Scott has a 8 year plan because we will be struggling to make the top 8 based on last months form and a low percentage. Yes we beat the pies but let's not forget they weren't fielding there best 22 players due to a lot of injuries! 😔
Wright has been scared of the ball since he was suspended and Draper is taking the piss . Move these 2 on while they have some currency. That game was a disgrace , junk goals at the end of the game disguised how inept we really are . I really think finishing second would be worse because that would be 2 finals we would lose .
Another great video guys! I tend to write a fair bit on these, but I'll keep it to one main new observation that is now becoming a concern of mine for our future: Where is Draper's development? From VFL days to AFL, sure. But he is no further from a crash and bash goof than he was in his debut game. Melbourne knew he has zero ruck craft so we didn't even hold the advantage in the ruck everyone assumed. Like you said, Draper is unpredictable and refuses to ever just palm down to his mids. Apart from that, classic Essendon not playing wet weather footy.
Draper was the least of the worries on the weekend lol. Idiotic decision making in the wet cost us about 10 goals and stopped us kicking about 10. Haha. We need to somehow Morph Drapers aggression and age, and combine it with Goldstein tap work. Fumbled, not just clearing the footy long in the wet under pressure, not keeping the ball in front. Played the wet horribly
@@andrewrogers5962 1. Stop the drugs. 2. I tipped Melbourne when I saw the weather and still sit a top of the footy tipping in three competitions. 3. Essendon were expected to be near the bottom, this is the first game they’ve lost when they were listed as favourites. ONE GAME they’ve lost that they were expected to win. And it was in wet shit, it was disappointing because of how stupidly they played the conditions and the selection of guys like Cox who were never going to provide much in those conditions, while guys like Hobbs and Tsatas dominated the VFL.
@@andrewrogers5962 if you had any idea about footy, you’d tell that if that game was at Marvel, Essendon win comfortably. They tried to play dry style in the wet. Late when they just played wet footy and got it forward quick… they started scoring
Agree totally. Selection was bad, performance was worse. Cox had an absolute shocker. Think dropping 2 meter so Langford can come back to form, might be an idea. Caddy and Jones as well might start lifting. When was the last time Peter Wright , our Tall full forward, took 4 marks in a game? Just my ten cents anyway.
Well I shelled out for good seats to take my boys for their first ever game at the G. Was absolutely gutting to watch their disappointment at the state of the umpiring, and the lack of any real star efforts from our star players. I’ve never felt so let down by this team and as an EFC supporter that’s saying something 🥺
Heppell is an absolute spud cost us 3 goals before halftime slow and costs us on turnover getting a game on name ! But tbh you can’t say we fell over the line against the pies because they kicked the last 4 goals , but then say us kicking the last 4 meant nothing!
100% Gents. Apparently the Demons who historically were the worst teams in wet weather, identified wet weather footy as their Achilles heal, practiced with a wet soapy football. They handled the conditions we didn't. It isn't rocket science. Been some surprising results this week with Freo, Carlton and Power loosing. 5 weeks to go Legends, missed that opportunity but moving on.
It was a shocker of an effort, against an undermanned Melbourne. But boys, we’ve had a good season and with more of the good football that we’ve already played this year, and yes we have played it, top 4 is on the table. We’ve seen enough this year to warrant that history is starting to turn. What you’ve delivered here, would be valid if we get to round 24 and we’ve dropped our bundle. We’re not there yet!!! You’re going way too early!!!
Has it been good footy? Barely put away the Tigers and West Coast (twice) and had one good qtr against North. Best wins against Bulldogs and Giants. The draw on Anzac Day was arguably the more meritorious result of the 2 Collingwood games. Blew the game against Carlton and bad losses to Sydney, Port, Geelong and Melbourne
@@absolutelyessendon If we finish the season out of the finals with significant losses then I’ll likely swing onto your side. That has happened yet. Losses happen. It’s a two horse race. It’s the manner in which we lose that is under discussion. The manner in which we lose hasn’t significantly been called into question yet in my estimation. The Port loss was a bad week, but we responded and didn’t lose again until about round 9 or 10 from memory. And I’d say our Melbourne loss was our worst for the year. A real shocker of a performance that calls for a big response this week. The fact that it could be argued that “we blew it against Carlton”, bodes well for what we’re putting together and there was clear trends in that game and the Geelong game that suggest we’ve progressed along further in comparison to 2023. My argument is strengthened by looking at the wins we have had. We were rank underdogs in 7 of our first 9 games. Yet we went into round ten, 6.5 and 2. We’ve set up our season with the next month turning 3 games at Marvel and one at the MCG. Yes, I winced at the Melbourne loss and as an Essendon supporter I agree such losses remind us more readily of our decades long frailty. But we still have to be awake to the trends that have been present throughout the season. I’m not going to mumble through them now, but in my view, there’s been significant progression in our game style and the general buy in from players, that I will continue to remain optimistic about until I see it collapse. In season 2024, that collapse hasn’t happened yet.
I now officially have ZERO faith, and even less trust, in our side. This week was the test, not last week, and we failed miserably. The way we work so hard for our goals, 10 mins of hard fought buildup, only to let the opposition score so easily within 30 secs of the next bounce...so often. Shocking. Must be so disheartening as a player. The forward line is dysfunctional, but to be fair I dont think they're getting good entries from the mids. Bomb it in long and we get beaten every single time, in the air and on the ground. Imagine that. We need a shake up. Nobody's spot should be sacred. IMO...Perkins, out. Wright, out. Cox, out. Jones is right on the edge. Edit: oh well if I just waited two mins I'd have seen you agree about those players.
Essendon has always thought we are only a couple of good players away from being a top four team and that has never been true.Consequently, the club has hovered around 12 - 8 for years.Maybe the time has come to tie up the best young players in long term contracts and trade everyone else for draft picks.
Dodoro deserves praise for pickups like Nic Martin and Sam Durham, but equally I'm happy to say he has absolutely shit the bed, with his 2020 draft selections. 3 top 10 picks and he has squandered ALL OF THEM!! Perkins and Cox constantly getting 10 possies or under is an embarrassment, and the other one averages about 1 senior game per season. Not happy!!! Cox and Perkins straight out, setters,Hobbs in.
@@xxmight450 I don't disagree and both Hobbs and Setters were good in the VFL even though we lost. Menzie and Davey were good also with 3 goals a piece. Pretty sure Scott won't make to many changes for the remainder of the season, and with that lies our problem. People say players like Cox and Perkins need more time... averaging around 10 disposals a game is well below standard at the AFL level. The only place they both need more time in is our VFL side to find form because they're way to inconsistent. And they're not the only ones getting a spot in our best 22 who should be playing at VFL level until they prove they actually deserve to be there!
@@brucejensen3081 yeah it was a compromised draft. Should'nt have spent the picks. Could have had Bobby Hill or Stengel for cheap. We are bloody crying out for a decent small forward.
Setterfield isn't the answer but Cox and Perkins need the ass. Hobbs deserves another crack on form and time is running out to bring Archie Roberts into the team. Imagine Roberts and Massimo by foot instead of Heppell and Kelly? Letting Massimo go was peak stupidity. Definitely in the top 10-15 users in the game. Capable of making game-breaking kicks and we let him walk. Roberts is super by foot and an assured decision maker. Back the youth now. Dodo has plenty to answer for over quite a few drafts. 2020 is looking putrid but I believe in Reid if he can get on the park. He's got Harris Andrews potential but sadly also Scott Gumbleton potential.
Hi Smokin & DT This was our chance gone begging , with Gawn and Petracca missing . Excuse my spelling …. We picked the wrong side for wet weather , in my view too many talls and not enough smalls . We should have learnt from the Geelong game , but I don’t understand , wet weather footy , kick long , kick along the ground , no backwards and sideways , and hand balling TOO much in the wet . We could have secured second spot . I don’t understand why the coaching team are telling players to kick to pockets , not long and direct , I saw stringer pass from 40 m out rather than shoot at goal in front like the old stringer . Last week I said , bring in Setterfield , and last week I said bring in Hobbs , and drop Perkins back in two s , and again I do believe Wright has lost his way since the suspension . I agree Davies would have been perfect to be brought in . The boys looked flat as a tack , but the over possession was so frustrating I had to leave 10 mins into the last quarter , not hard to kick long to the talls like peter Wright and he can tap it down to the smalls like the old days , Salmon to Mercuri , Bewick , Ezard ,Calthorpe , leon Baker , daisy Williams , how about Gary Moorcroft 😂 How about giving Gavin’s son Tex Wanganeen having a go in the wet ?? I agree with Smokin , you should stay to the end of the game but I was embarrassed that’s why I left …… I was the one to raise Bewick last week , and I agree D Ambrosio should have been kept and let him grow after he kicked the winner vs North last year . I have an original 80 s retro bombers jacket from my wife’s uncle , great memorabilia , correct DT ! Great job boys very honest , and telling it like it is , as I said last week , do a live pregame show , Dockers game perhaps ? DT you said where did Napoleon go wrong ….. when he left Josephine his strongest supporter , follower , his wife . Where did Essendon go wrong ….. not spending on recruiting dropped to fourth bottom and below on the ladder , and all the old people going in 2005 onwards ….. Harvey , kevin Morrison , etc etc Kevin Sheedy ….. not a lot of success since then ……. Signing off A very sad lethal Leigh 😢
@@Sbock86 & his 8 goal haul against WC in 93, the 6 goals he kicked against Adelaide in the 93 preliminary.. him & Mercuri at their peak as our small forwards now would be electric
Couldn’t agree more. Perkins doesn’t look interested. Drop him and give Setterfield, Hobbs or Archie Roberts a go. Draper is showing no indication that he is improving. Drop him and give Bryan a run at it for a few weeks. He couldn’t be worse than Draper, who is an absolute goose.
@@absolutelyessendon Don’t get it either; he’s been killing it in the VFL. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t move on, possibly without ever being properly tested at senior level.
i said not long ago that there is very little if any difference to last year (2 points more than the same time last season)..im still yet to see any change/progress
Pre-season hype, "yeah we're looking ready for a big season!" First practice match "we got beat up by saints, my hype is gone" Second practice match "we lost but looking a lot better, gee parish looked awesome!" A few games in "no parish, reid and riddly out injured, here we go with injury, seasons gonna suck" 8-10 games in "got some wins! And durham and caldwell have really stepped up! Lookin' good fellas!" Halfway through the season we're all wondering "are we gonna fall off a cliff?" Beat the pies "whoooohooo! Go bombers! We arent done yet!" After thought "was that a big fish that turned into and old car tyre?" This week 🤕😵💫 "its just the cold wet weather..." If i dont watch anymore games this year and manage to avoid any and all news on footbal, the grand final will be in a state of superposition and essendon will both have won the grand final and lost it. Go dons!!! 😅
Not a fan of some bomber supporters blaming the loss on the wet weather. Such a weak and irrelevant excuse for a loss when other teams find a way to grind out games despite the weather. The mirage of Essendon being in the top 4 for a good chunk of the season really has fooled some people about where the team is truly at. As usual, great review lads, go bombers. By the way, I loved the historical references.
Honestly that’s not what people, including ourselves are saying. Quite the opposite in fact. It’s the team’s complete inability to manage the wet conditions that is the universal worry. Thanks for your comment
@@absolutelyessendon It's just something I've seen from some supporters, just giving ridiculous excuses for our losses rather than accepting the fact that we got outplayed. Also, my concerns about Scott are starting to worsen, big month of footy coming up.
Great video lads. From memory Melbourne have always been a thorn in our side especially when we have sat higher on the ladder. True to form we can't play in the wet and unfortunately I'm predicting (true to form) we will fail to recover from it against Adelaide and will be as flat as all get out. Hope I'm wrong.
Thanks for the review. Once again, DT, your thoughts echo my own. As I mentioned in comments in previous videos, big Pete hasn't been good for a long time (in my opinion years). I'm still very annoyed at the large contract he was awarded. He can't mark or crash packs. He can't always have it delivered on platter. My thoughts on the match: - Too tall - Skills seem poor (e.g. fumbly and panic) - Scott is destroying Martins career in the backline. Amazing the difference when he goes forward. - Draper is not improving which is concerning. He doesnt appear to have ruck craft. - Backline was fairly solid, except for Heppell (why on earth Laverde was "managed" is bizarre). - Midfield was ok. But they seemed second to the ball all the time for some reason. Draper just seems to knock the ball anywhere though, including straight to the opposition. - Forward line disfunctional, particularly no pressure or defense. With the amount of forward entries, they should be able to convert at least some of them. The following should be dropped for a stint in VFL: Cox, Perkins, Wright and Heppell. Agree with DT. I know exactly what will happen this week: They beat a weaker side in the Crows, at Marvel and Wright will kick 3 goals on weak opposition. Always the same. I think we all just want to be convinced :)
i like the historical references but i also liked the log scale.. im a learned gentleman. anyway lets get that live stream happening keen it should be quick to setup with streamlabs OBS
You covered everything I thought about the game. We blew an opportunity like we have over the years to secure a place in the 8. Even if we kicked the ball long into our forward line we had no players to compete. Draper just knocked the ball forward to Melbourne players. I said months ago that Wright is a liability and last night Scott realised it too. I think he will be managed this week. Cox, Gresham and Perkins should join him. I've been fortunate to see Essendon win 4 premierships. We had players that played for the jumper, gave it their all for 2 hours. I'll celebrate the wins and nothing more. I agree, Merritt, Parish, and a few others are getting old. Is it time to put Scott under the microscope? Like the Italian army tanks, 5 gears, 1 forward and 4 reverse....its only 4 points.
So disappointing, I actually thought we looked the better side in the first quarter but did not take all our opportunities. But from the start of the second quarter we looked bad, trying to play dry football in the wet, looked slow, tired, not interested, handballs then slip up, it was amazing we only lost by 17. Played 10 minutes of football at end when game was lost. Unfortunately it looks like last year all over again, when pressure was on we went missing. So disappointing. Perkins and Wright at least need to be dropped. Still stayed until the final siren, thanks guys.
I was thinking about the loss We can talk about the coaches, tactics, individual players the reality is, in my opinion we don't have the cattle and we haven't for years. We don't have hard nosed, smart, competitive players bar a few. This is why we always get exposed in finals, big games and wet weather games. It's as simple as that.
Anyone have an opinion on Peter Wright? I have said I am LOATHE to simply single out one player - however the 'stats' and 'facts' demonstrate a player who is physically huge, it seems when he 'wants' to play he does, and does well. Someone of Wright's physical size are used by up the ground players to 'hit' - and a goal to be kicked. Yet Wright simply has NOT either been consistent [ok injuries I get it] nor has he - for his sheer size - 'imposed himself' physically on marking contests on a consistent basis. We've never been a team that plays well in the wet imho, but until Scott can manage to remove this inconsistency of effort from this group we ALL are going to be as fans on an emotional roller coaster. Tease, tease, tease. At least the media's on to this team.
When you watch 2M get pushed around by mid sized defenders and see Cox running around like he needs a hamburger you have to wonder if they've lost the keys to the weight room at Essendon? Cox doesn't look like he's gained a single kg since he's been at the club. 2M would lose a powerslap contest to Caleb Daniel.
The Napoleon comparison is flawed insofar as Bonaparte was overreaching with an already dominant empire. In keeping with the spirit of the analogy, our lack of prior success would suggest the Dons haven’t even left Corsica yet.
I’ll keep it short and quote genesis. “There's too many men, too many people Making too many problems And not much love to go 'round Can't you see this is a land of confusion?”
We had a side from 99 to 01 that could barely lose a match. Think that North game in 2001. We just knew how to win games most teams would have lost. I'd be showing the team of 24 that's what a successful team looks like. Don't talk about the competition being difficult and even. Successful teams make their own luck and win on the road and whatever the weather brings.
We've been in the premiership void for nearly a quarter of a century. Maybe we need to be like the 2000 team in the finals series and not sing the song until we have achieved our goal. Maybe a finals win. We have to be completely focused as a team.
Unwise wet weather selections, why the heck was Hind not in the starting 22 ? How was Laverde left out ? Why does Cox continue to get a game ? Sadly Heppell too slow now. Umpiring as bad as the Geelong debacle. Looks like we're purely a Marvel team. Only play Wright at Marvel . Caddy still very raw
Tuning out of any Essendon based media/posts/etc for a week. I know we’ve been burned before but listening to the fans is honestly worse than seeing the team play poorly. We were expected to finish bottom 6 this year and we’ve exceeded all expectations in that regard. We’re going to slip up some weeks. We’ll smash the Crows next week and everyone will be back on the bandwagon again. Probably an unpopular opinion but I’m so tired of it.
It’s a fair comment - if it has been just a couple of years of this same old junk backed up by a fan base that seems content to say exactly what you just said. Not having a go at all but isn’t it time we simply refused to accept more of this rather than saying well actually we weren’t meant to be any better than bottom 6?
@@absolutelyessendon Nah I 100% understand the sentiment! Just realised how douchey my comment may have come across as, totally unintended! Fans are entitled to feel however they want on a week to week basis, Im just personally limiting myself from it. Still loving the content boys, see y’all in a week! ❤️
Are you looking at the performances of other teams ?? Inconsistency is the flavour of this season. Dogs, Blues, Pies, Power, GWS, Lions, Demons and even Sydney dropping two in a row. Hang in there and believe 🔴⚫️
Most of those teams will finish above Essendon. All of them have won a final in the last 20 years. 4 of them have won a flag in the same time. 2 of them have made Grand Finals. No more excuses please
There were a lot of passengers, but at the end of the day we have only a few players (caldwell, durham, merret) who are willing to get into the contest and hunt for the ball. We should drop Perkins and get Tsatas or Hobbs. Draper was ok, but hes not talking to our mids, he should dictate where hes tappig and then the mids move there instead of him thumping the ball in random direction to opposition players. Wright needs to go back to the VFL, the forward line just isnt working and i wouldnt mind langford going to the VFL (call it managed) and Martin being in the forward line, bring laverde back into the side in the backline.
Bang on about too many passengers. It's crazy we were even that close to the Dees playing with half a side. Tsatas isn't the answer. Forget the stats. He looks all over the place to me. Hobbs and Roberts in. Ps Would've been nice to have Voss on the list to replace Wright. And Massimo to replace (throw a blanket over a few)...
@@desiolle2874 tsatas can play inside which is where he does his best work, let durham be the outside player as his dash and tackling is great. im still gutted we let quality players like Voss or Massimo go and persisted with some of the current AFL/VFL players. TBH im not sure what the selection dept was thinking, its not like we didnt need a quality forward or great wingman
@@wenisman I know YT comments can come back to haunt you but I'm willing to wager here and now that Tsatas isn't up to it. Been watching footy near 50 years and am a nuffy for the draft each year. I wanted Phillipou or Humphrey and I think Dodo went safe with Tsatas bc of the kids stats on paper. Could be wrong. Hope I'm wrong. Voss never even got a senior game. Was watching his 2's form for Peel and he looks jacked and dangerous. Really mobile too. I'd much rather see him out there than 2M atm...
I think we have decided to go for draft picks so we can use them and future ones to trade for Harley reid. End in the middle 6 and get a similar draw next year, except not play port in the bullshit round. We play 3 above us on the ladder which we lose, 3 below us, probably lose one, maybe 2. Then we end on 11 or 12 wins (no better than where we finished the last 3 seasons worsfold coached) and get a top 10 pick. Won't get top 4, pointless making finals. Pity cause if Sydney stumble, there are 6 or 7 teams that could win the flag, if they get top 4. Now that we are playing to get ready for next year, stop playing players that are going to be delisted at the end of the year, like Goldstein and heppell. Experiment with Roberts, Hobbs, maybe see how we go with Bryan and draper in the same team without Wright. Maybe try wanganeen in the back pocket, before we delist him, maybe it could work
I'd play Bryan as a forward instead of Wright. Could give you a genuine split with ruck duties and you probably wouldn't lose anything in forward craft or F50 pressure. Wright barely leads anywhere and when the ball's on the deck he's a liability. 2M's a beautiful kick, that's about it. Reward Bryan for his patience, form and loyalty. Good footballers can excel just about anywhere.
@@desiolle2874 yeah if Bryan took wrights spot, it's not like he could do any worse. His goal kicking in the vfl seems pretty good. Fuck weideman would probably do better than Wright at the moment. I can see that if Wright got that form back, that he had for one year, we would be so much better, and we are stuck with him for a while now. The thing is, he ain't getting that form back in conditions like against Geelong Melbourne, he needs to get form back in conditions that suit him, and only then, can he be played in conditions that don't suit him, and he can try to learn to adapt further. The Geelong Melbourne games have just set him further back
Zero to be positive about mate based on that mediocre performance with 2nd on the ladder up for grabs... it's like Essendon get a sniff and go oh, nah, let's make our supporters suffer for another year. Been the same shit for the last two decades it gets real farkking disheartening and as supporters we have every right to be pissed off in my opinion! They lacked heart for most of that game and we need find some ticker or will be another wasted year again. Furthermore put Martin down in the ford flank or wing he can do so much more damage on the scoreboard than Wright and some of the other wasted 22 making up that forward line! 😤
@@bernierossi8062 yeah mate it's called the Essendon finals curse. We have been living the experience for many moons now as supporters and it starts wearing thin. The remedy is simple, go out and play each game as a collective 22 with some heart and competitive edge. I never thought Melbourne would've ran laps around us and exposed us like they did. If we show up to Marvel this Friday night against Adelaide with the lack of enthusiasm, it could be a long night for the boys and another season with missed opportunities. Sometimes the selectors have to make tough love calls on the team so to speak. Waiting for players to find form and costing us games due to poor decision making and lack of ticker in the contest needs to change. Several VFL players would've been much better selected in the way against both Geelong and Melbourne but yet again we adopted a talk forward line. When I served in the military (Infantry) only the strong survived the rigours so to speak. I believe the same theory applies to selecting our best 22 for each game. But what would I know I'm just a supporter and beloved Essendon fan, who has been watching the team disappoint fans for the last two decades. Would really suck if this is another repeats year of the same!
I'm surprised you didn't refer to the battle of Little bighorn where a very cocky Custer was taught a lesson by the Sioux who were just harder at the ball on the day to be fair. I knew we were doomed last night when Cox needed to stand up and instead went very soft and just chose to watch instead.
We let a real golden opportunity too go in too 2nd position however as always we ruined it now we are 6th spot on the ladder which makes next week against the Crows a must win and plz trade Peter Wright
Once again the Essendon rollercoaster continues and now we come to the last part where we either come out covered in vomit or we turn the corner and embrace the challenge ahead and wear the adrenaline with pride. What a disappointment from those in charge to the players on the ground on Friday night and as soon as we looked like getting the old boat out with big hole in it and kept trying to stay afloat going through the rough sea that was Melbourne and eventually surrendering, I couldn't even get angry anymore because even the man in Alice Springs who has probably never seen a boat in his life new that this was not going to work. And so now this game will be used for educational purposes to show people who have no idea how to play footy in the wet just what not to do.
Papley and Greene, yes please.And don't forget we had the MCG as our home-ground when some dumass money man convinced us to move to Darklands, thus an inability to play wet or big. 2023 is hanging over us like a bad cloud and my confidence level is not high. ps I don't mind the historical references. The only good from this weekend, Carlton lost.
The moment I saw it raining I was like we’re screwed and honestly the result wasn’t as bad as I thought it was gonna be if they hadn’t of spent a qtr and a half kicking backwards and sideways they probably would’ve won. In saying that they definitely need to train in the wet more you can tell they have no idea how to play in the rain which is fk’d it’s a winter sport ffs 🤦♂️! If it isn’t raining turn the sprinklers on and fkn get to work.
Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh) Yes, We’re the great pretenders Just laughin' and gay like clowns We seem to be what we’re not, you see We’re wearing the Sash with a frown Pretending that you're still around (Still around)
Scott has no idea how to select the team for playing conditions. He also has no idea how to correct our forward line inefficiency. Been a year long problem. He’s a 🤡
Essendon is the joke of the AFL 20 years without a finals win, James Hird curse of the Drug Saga, 2 million dollars in fines, Jobe Watson losing his Brownlow because of James Hird 2 years of been banned from the draft and 24 years since their last premiership oh yes this club has done well over the last 20 years what a JOKE. They were lucky to beat Collingwood with the pies missing 8 players they could not beat Melbourne with their good players missing and they struggle to beat the weak sides. And when the chance comes to go to 2nd guess what it's the old same story this club is like the Titanic sitting on the bottom of the ocean 3,800 meters this side will never win anything , Essendon is overrated as an AFL team the under 16s go in harder then these soft Players apart from Zach Merrett the rest is weak at that club the James Hird drug saga curse strikes again this club won't ever win a grand final nor a final which will end up been 10,000 days without a finals win.
@@stevelozevski8151 Hey Steve yes very true Geelong game was the final straw for me I used to care if they won or lost but ever since that Geelong game now I don't care anymore my comments are more about where the club is at , I myself have lots of Memorabilia and used to be a member and supporter before James Hird broke the club in half and caused all the damage now I am trying to sell my Memorabilia because of the drug saga past but no one wants to buy it lol🤣 , I also know of others who are sick to death of this club been on the bottom of the ocean not having done anything in 20 years We are starting to see members and supporters who have been waiting for so long starting losing faith and hope it won't be long before we see others over taken Essendon in most premierships won.
It’s who we are guys …. Inconsistent and never able to see a season out. Why would you think that we are going to make finals ? Depends which team turns up against Adelaide, StKilda and Gold Coast. The one that carrels and backs off contests will struggle to win. We haven’t beaten anyone above us so pretenders again. It’s gotta be a bloody cultural thing
I don’t rate Draper as a ruck he a good big man and he’d probably be a pretty good Fwd with how he attacks the ball, but he tapped it to the dees players all night he lost us the game should’ve played a more experienced ruck in Goldy! I think if we had Kako and Berry we’d be a way more electric team I rate the 4 smalls 2 tall’s Fwd line it’s the modern line up and every good team has that kinda line up unless another tall is necessary, and then they play a 2nd ruck/Fwd one who can tap it to the smalls every team has got on this even Hawthorn has improved so much with that lineup Essendon need to change before they’re left behind!
Drapes can't be a forward. He kicks 'em off his knee... Kako went and kicked a mini bag on the weekend to put his name in neon in the eyes of selectors. We're not getting him unless we burn our 1st on him. Menzie could be the small you're looking for. Gets 10 mins a game and is then dropped again. Leave him inside F50 and back him in. He's got pace and instinct but if he doesn't tackle in there he gets the ass. F50 pressure as important as snags.
@@desiolle2874 hopefully they change the rules this year so you can bid on a player if you have a pick within a certain amount of them being taken so they can match it after gifting the suns that many players a few clubs deserve a freebie instead of getting screwed for the AFL’s “mistake”.
You guys are spot on I feel the same way like you said it’s been going on for far too long. I’m currently assessing my options for next year do stupidly go again and spend over $2000 for another membership so I can drive for 3.5 hours down watch that shit and then drive back home for another 3.5 hours . I feel i should be asking for some sort of refund after parting with money for the past 25 years and seeing this crap every year 🫣
Oh and the club just loves to grab your money to pay out poorly thought through executive appointments/sackings and unnecessary player contract extensions
Love it guys. Bombers fan of 42 years here and laughed my head off at this. Subscribed
Great to have you on board. Thank you
We had the absolute perfect opportunity last night to cement our credentials. A no.2 spot beckoning. Great teams just go out and do the business. With Gawn and Petracca missing it should have been a hard day in the office but a sign off! Alas ....
Forget wet weather, good teams know how to play those conditions.
To say I have been cranky all day is an understatement. No mainstream media because of sheer embarrassment. How long do we have to wait??
Great Show. But back to mediocrity for us....
"Great teams just go out and do the business." Well said, glad Brad Scott has a 8 year plan because we will be struggling to make the top 8 based on last months form and a low percentage. Yes we beat the pies but let's not forget they weren't fielding there best 22 players due to a lot of injuries! 😔
Wright has been scared of the ball since he was suspended and Draper is taking the piss . Move these 2 on while they have some currency.
That game was a disgrace , junk goals at the end of the game disguised how inept we really are . I really think finishing second would be worse because that would be 2 finals we would lose .
Given the FA Cup is about to kick off, perhaps the Bombers can join that comp and succeed? After all they have given us sweet FA for 23 years now.
Brad is controlled by the wef "you ll win nothing and be happy"
Another great video guys! I tend to write a fair bit on these, but I'll keep it to one main new observation that is now becoming a concern of mine for our future: Where is Draper's development? From VFL days to AFL, sure. But he is no further from a crash and bash goof than he was in his debut game. Melbourne knew he has zero ruck craft so we didn't even hold the advantage in the ruck everyone assumed. Like you said, Draper is unpredictable and refuses to ever just palm down to his mids. Apart from that, classic Essendon not playing wet weather footy.
Would take a second round pick for Draper if Adelaide are crazy enough to come asking
Couldn’t agree more.
Draper was the least of the worries on the weekend lol. Idiotic decision making in the wet cost us about 10 goals and stopped us kicking about 10. Haha.
We need to somehow Morph Drapers aggression and age, and combine it with Goldstein tap work.
Fumbled, not just clearing the footy long in the wet under pressure, not keeping the ball in front. Played the wet horribly
@@andrewrogers5962 1. Stop the drugs. 2. I tipped Melbourne when I saw the weather and still sit a top of the footy tipping in three competitions. 3. Essendon were expected to be near the bottom, this is the first game they’ve lost when they were listed as favourites. ONE GAME they’ve lost that they were expected to win. And it was in wet shit, it was disappointing because of how stupidly they played the conditions and the selection of guys like Cox who were never going to provide much in those conditions, while guys like Hobbs and Tsatas dominated the VFL.
@@andrewrogers5962 if you had any idea about footy, you’d tell that if that game was at Marvel, Essendon win comfortably. They tried to play dry style in the wet. Late when they just played wet footy and got it forward quick… they started scoring
What pissed me off the most is that Brad Scott said "It's just 4 points". Like wtf??
Agree totally. Selection was bad, performance was worse. Cox had an absolute shocker. Think dropping 2 meter so Langford can come back to form, might be an idea. Caddy and Jones as well might start lifting. When was the last time Peter Wright , our Tall full forward, took 4 marks in a game? Just my ten cents anyway.
He’s been poor but he also gets shocking delivery
Well I shelled out for good seats to take my boys for their first ever game at the G. Was absolutely gutting to watch their disappointment at the state of the umpiring, and the lack of any real star efforts from our star players. I’ve never felt so let down by this team and as an EFC supporter that’s saying something 🥺
The young fans must be ready to follow Netball
Heppell is an absolute spud cost us 3 goals before halftime slow and costs us on turnover getting a game on name ! But tbh you can’t say we fell over the line against the pies because they kicked the last 4 goals , but then say us kicking the last 4 meant nothing!
100% Gents. Apparently the Demons who historically were the worst teams in wet weather, identified wet weather footy as their Achilles heal, practiced with a wet soapy football. They handled the conditions we didn't. It isn't rocket science. Been some surprising results this week with Freo, Carlton and Power loosing. 5 weeks to go Legends, missed that opportunity but moving on.
It was a shocker of an effort, against an undermanned Melbourne. But boys, we’ve had a good season and with more of the good football that we’ve already played this year, and yes we have played it, top 4 is on the table. We’ve seen enough this year to warrant that history is starting to turn. What you’ve delivered here, would be valid if we get to round 24 and we’ve dropped our bundle. We’re not there yet!!! You’re going way too early!!!
Has it been good footy? Barely put away the Tigers and West Coast (twice) and had one good qtr against North.
Best wins against Bulldogs and Giants. The draw on Anzac Day was arguably the more meritorious result of the 2 Collingwood games. Blew the game against Carlton and bad losses to Sydney, Port, Geelong and Melbourne
@@absolutelyessendon If we finish the season out of the finals with significant losses then I’ll likely swing onto your side. That has happened yet.
Losses happen. It’s a two horse race. It’s the manner in which we lose that is under discussion. The manner in which we lose hasn’t significantly been called into question yet in my estimation. The Port loss was a bad week, but we responded and didn’t lose again until about round 9 or 10 from memory. And I’d say our Melbourne loss was our worst for the year. A real shocker of a performance that calls for a big response this week.
The fact that it could be argued that “we blew it against Carlton”, bodes well for what we’re putting together and there was clear trends in that game and the Geelong game that suggest we’ve progressed along further in comparison to 2023.
My argument is strengthened by looking at the wins we have had. We were rank underdogs in 7 of our first 9 games. Yet we went into round ten, 6.5 and 2.
We’ve set up our season with the next month turning 3 games at Marvel and one at the MCG.
Yes, I winced at the Melbourne loss and as an Essendon supporter I agree such losses remind us more readily of our decades long frailty.
But we still have to be awake to the trends that have been present throughout the season. I’m not going to mumble through them now, but in my view, there’s been significant progression in our game style and the general buy in from players, that I will continue to remain optimistic about until I see it collapse.
In season 2024, that collapse hasn’t happened yet.
I now officially have ZERO faith, and even less trust, in our side. This week was the test, not last week, and we failed miserably.
The way we work so hard for our goals, 10 mins of hard fought buildup, only to let the opposition score so easily within 30 secs of the next bounce...so often. Shocking. Must be so disheartening as a player.
The forward line is dysfunctional, but to be fair I dont think they're getting good entries from the mids. Bomb it in long and we get beaten every single time, in the air and on the ground. Imagine that.
We need a shake up. Nobody's spot should be sacred. IMO...Perkins, out. Wright, out. Cox, out. Jones is right on the edge.
Edit: oh well if I just waited two mins I'd have seen you agree about those players.
You were spot on though and it’s an excellent point about how our every goal was just a huge struggle as opposed to the opposition
Whether we win lose or draw one thing is for certain that's I absolutely Love this podcast you guys are great ❤❤
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks
Essendon has always thought we are only a couple of good players away from being a top four team and that has never been true.Consequently, the club has hovered around 12 - 8 for years.Maybe the time has come to tie up the best young players in long term contracts and trade everyone else for draft picks.
Draft picks and Dodoro don’t mix. Perhaps when he has truly left the club then that would work
Dodoro deserves praise for pickups like Nic Martin and Sam Durham, but equally I'm happy to say he has absolutely shit the bed, with his 2020 draft selections.
3 top 10 picks and he has squandered ALL OF THEM!!
Perkins and Cox constantly getting 10 possies or under is an embarrassment, and the other one averages about 1 senior game per season.
Not happy!!! Cox and Perkins straight out, setters,Hobbs in.
@@xxmight450 I don't disagree and both Hobbs and Setters were good in the VFL even though we lost. Menzie and Davey were good also with 3 goals a piece. Pretty sure Scott won't make to many changes for the remainder of the season, and with that lies our problem. People say players like Cox and Perkins need more time... averaging around 10 disposals a game is well below standard at the AFL level. The only place they both need more time in is our VFL side to find form because they're way to inconsistent. And they're not the only ones getting a spot in our best 22 who should be playing at VFL level until they prove they actually deserve to be there!
Can't disagree with you.
Look at the 2020 draft and tell me who we should have got
@@brucejensen3081 yeah it was a compromised draft. Should'nt have spent the picks. Could have had Bobby Hill or Stengel for cheap. We are bloody crying out for a decent small forward.
Setterfield isn't the answer but Cox and Perkins need the ass. Hobbs deserves another crack on form and time is running out to bring Archie Roberts into the team. Imagine Roberts and Massimo by foot instead of Heppell and Kelly? Letting Massimo go was peak stupidity. Definitely in the top 10-15 users in the game. Capable of making game-breaking kicks and we let him walk. Roberts is super by foot and an assured decision maker. Back the youth now.
Dodo has plenty to answer for over quite a few drafts. 2020 is looking putrid but I believe in Reid if he can get on the park. He's got Harris Andrews potential but sadly also Scott Gumbleton potential.
Hi Smokin & DT
This was our chance gone begging , with Gawn and Petracca missing .
Excuse my spelling ….
We picked the wrong side for wet weather , in my view too many talls and not enough smalls .
We should have learnt from the Geelong game , but I don’t understand , wet weather footy , kick long , kick along the ground , no backwards and sideways , and hand balling TOO much in the wet .
We could have secured second spot .
I don’t understand why the coaching team are telling players to kick to pockets , not long and direct , I saw stringer pass from 40 m out rather than shoot at goal in front like the old stringer .
Last week I said , bring in Setterfield , and last week I said bring in Hobbs , and drop Perkins back in two s , and again I do believe Wright has lost his way since the suspension .
I agree Davies would have been perfect to be brought in .
The boys looked flat as a tack , but the over possession was so frustrating I had to leave 10 mins into the last quarter , not hard to kick long to the talls like peter Wright and he can tap it down to the smalls like the old days , Salmon to Mercuri , Bewick , Ezard ,Calthorpe , leon Baker , daisy Williams , how about Gary Moorcroft 😂
How about giving Gavin’s son Tex Wanganeen having a go in the wet ??
I agree with Smokin , you should stay to the end of the game but I was embarrassed that’s why I left ……
I was the one to raise Bewick last week , and I agree D Ambrosio should have been kept and let him grow after he kicked the winner vs North last year .
I have an original 80 s retro bombers jacket from my wife’s uncle , great memorabilia , correct DT !
Great job boys very honest , and telling it like it is , as I said last week , do a live pregame show , Dockers game perhaps ?
DT you said where did Napoleon go wrong ….. when he left Josephine his strongest supporter , follower , his wife .
Where did Essendon go wrong ….. not spending on recruiting dropped to fourth bottom and below on the ladder , and all the old people going in 2005 onwards ….. Harvey , kevin Morrison , etc etc Kevin Sheedy ….. not a lot of success since then …….
Signing off
A very sad lethal Leigh 😢
Miss Boris. Still remember his 9 goal haul vs Geelong in 1996.
@@Sbock86 & his 8 goal haul against WC in 93, the 6 goals he kicked against Adelaide in the 93 preliminary.. him & Mercuri at their peak as our small forwards now would be electric
Couldn’t agree more. Perkins doesn’t look interested. Drop him and give Setterfield, Hobbs or Archie Roberts a go. Draper is showing no indication that he is improving. Drop him and give Bryan a run at it for a few weeks. He couldn’t be worse than Draper, who is an absolute goose.
Just don’t get why Bryan is not given more chances.
@@absolutelyessendon Don’t get it either; he’s been killing it in the VFL. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t move on, possibly without ever being properly tested at senior level.
Perkins played one game is whole career against the hawks trade bait see ya perko
@@damiward cos Brad's got his favourites is why.......and I hear teams are already circling Bryan.
It was forecast to rain idk wtf Scott was thinking
i said not long ago that there is very little if any difference to last year (2 points more than the same time last season)..im still yet to see any change/progress
Why did we go in so tall AGAIN when they knew it was going to be WET I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY
Pre-season hype, "yeah we're looking ready for a big season!"
First practice match "we got beat up by saints, my hype is gone"
Second practice match "we lost but looking a lot better, gee parish looked awesome!"
A few games in "no parish, reid and riddly out injured, here we go with injury, seasons gonna suck"
8-10 games in "got some wins! And durham and caldwell have really stepped up! Lookin' good fellas!"
Halfway through the season we're all wondering "are we gonna fall off a cliff?" Beat the pies "whoooohooo! Go bombers! We arent done yet!" After thought "was that a big fish that turned into and old car tyre?"
This week 🤕😵💫 "its just the cold wet weather..."
If i dont watch anymore games this year and manage to avoid any and all news on footbal, the grand final will be in a state of superposition and essendon will both have won the grand final and lost it. Go dons!!! 😅
Not a fan of some bomber supporters blaming the loss on the wet weather. Such a weak and irrelevant excuse for a loss when other teams find a way to grind out games despite the weather. The mirage of Essendon being in the top 4 for a good chunk of the season really has fooled some people about where the team is truly at.
As usual, great review lads, go bombers.
By the way, I loved the historical references.
Honestly that’s not what people, including ourselves are saying. Quite the opposite in fact. It’s the team’s complete inability to manage the wet conditions that is the universal worry. Thanks for your comment
@@absolutelyessendon It's just something I've seen from some supporters, just giving ridiculous excuses for our losses rather than accepting the fact that we got outplayed. Also, my concerns about Scott are starting to worsen, big month of footy coming up.
Great video lads. From memory Melbourne have always been a thorn in our side especially when we have sat higher on the ladder. True to form we can't play in the wet and unfortunately I'm predicting (true to form) we will fail to recover from it against Adelaide and will be as flat as all get out. Hope I'm wrong.
Well we’ve been average against apparent easy beats all year.
A bit harsh, but to be honest pretty spot on how I thought of the game. How did we lose to a no petracca no gawn melb side…
Thanks for the review. Once again, DT, your thoughts echo my own.
As I mentioned in comments in previous videos, big Pete hasn't been good for a long time (in my opinion years). I'm still very annoyed at the large contract he was awarded. He can't mark or crash packs. He can't always have it delivered on platter.
My thoughts on the match:
- Too tall
- Skills seem poor (e.g. fumbly and panic)
- Scott is destroying Martins career in the backline. Amazing the difference when he goes forward.
- Draper is not improving which is concerning. He doesnt appear to have ruck craft.
- Backline was fairly solid, except for Heppell (why on earth Laverde was "managed" is bizarre).
- Midfield was ok. But they seemed second to the ball all the time for some reason. Draper just seems to knock the ball anywhere though, including straight to the opposition.
- Forward line disfunctional, particularly no pressure or defense. With the amount of forward entries, they should be able to convert at least some of them.
The following should be dropped for a stint in VFL: Cox, Perkins, Wright and Heppell.
Agree with DT. I know exactly what will happen this week: They beat a weaker side in the Crows, at Marvel and Wright will kick 3 goals on weak opposition. Always the same.
I think we all just want to be convinced :)
We are quite clearly not a Wet Weather side. We tend to try to play dry weather footbal in the slippery greasy conditions.
That’s just shocking coaching right?
That’s a bummer when playing a winter sport hey 😂😂😂 Maybe if we ask for all games at Marvel every year
You are right, coaching plus as you mentioned - SELECTION - it should be horses for courses.
Quite clearly a greasy side under any condition 😂
Thanks
Why thank you very much. Appreciated.
i like the historical references but i also liked the log scale.. im a learned gentleman. anyway lets get that live stream happening keen it should be quick to setup with streamlabs OBS
You covered everything I thought about the game. We blew an opportunity like we have over the years to secure a place in the 8. Even if we kicked the ball long into our forward line we had no players to compete. Draper just knocked the ball forward to Melbourne players. I said months ago that Wright is a liability and last night Scott realised it too. I think he will be managed this week. Cox, Gresham and Perkins should join him. I've been fortunate to see Essendon win 4 premierships. We had players that played for the jumper, gave it their all for 2 hours. I'll celebrate the wins and nothing more. I agree, Merritt, Parish, and a few others are getting old. Is it time to put Scott under the microscope? Like the Italian army tanks, 5 gears, 1 forward and 4 reverse....its only 4 points.
Haha, be careful talking about anything Italian around Smokin Joe!!! He still thinks the Italians were robbed in WWII
So disappointing, I actually thought we looked the better side in the first quarter but did not take all our opportunities. But from the start of the second quarter we looked bad, trying to play dry football in the wet, looked slow, tired, not interested, handballs then slip up, it was amazing we only lost by 17. Played 10 minutes of football at end when game was lost. Unfortunately it looks like last year all over again, when pressure was on we went missing. So disappointing. Perkins and Wright at least need to be dropped. Still stayed until the final siren, thanks guys.
I was thinking about the loss
We can talk about the coaches, tactics, individual players
the reality is, in my opinion we don't have the cattle and we haven't for years. We don't have hard nosed, smart, competitive players bar a few. This is why we always get exposed in finals, big games and wet weather games. It's as simple as that.
Does the club have the balls to do anything about it? Probably not. Watch them offer Heppell and Goldy another year
Which finals ?
@@mickysquire205 elimination finals
Move write and drapes on I love drapes but he needs to get on board and peter write needs to ritire if he's scared to play
Anyone have an opinion on Peter Wright? I have said I am LOATHE to simply single out one player - however the 'stats' and 'facts' demonstrate a player who is physically huge, it seems when he 'wants' to play he does, and does well. Someone of Wright's physical size are used by up the ground players to 'hit' - and a goal to be kicked. Yet Wright simply has NOT either been consistent [ok injuries I get it] nor has he - for his sheer size - 'imposed himself' physically on marking contests on a consistent basis. We've never been a team that plays well in the wet imho, but until Scott can manage to remove this inconsistency of effort from this group we ALL are going to be as fans on an emotional roller coaster. Tease, tease, tease. At least the media's on to this team.
Peter Wright showing why Gold Coast didn’t even play him once in his last season there.
Mate, if you say anything on Twitter, and hold him accountable, it's baffling how many people go in to excuse him.
You can see from his demeanor that he’s an introvert, and he’s not the kind to impose himself. He’s not the guy to lead the forward line.
When you watch 2M get pushed around by mid sized defenders and see Cox running around like he needs a hamburger you have to wonder if they've lost the keys to the weight room at Essendon? Cox doesn't look like he's gained a single kg since he's been at the club. 2M would lose a powerslap contest to Caleb Daniel.
@@desiolle2874😂
Essendon went to play dry weather footy in the wet.
The Napoleon comparison is flawed insofar as Bonaparte was overreaching with an already dominant empire. In keeping with the spirit of the analogy, our lack of prior success would suggest the Dons haven’t even left Corsica yet.
I’ll keep it short and quote genesis.
“There's too many men, too many people
Making too many problems
And not much love to go 'round
Can't you see this is a land of confusion?”
An excellent quote!
I’ll be surprised if we win another game this year
I wouldn't play Draper again this season just play goldy
We had a side from 99 to 01 that could barely lose a match. Think that North game in 2001. We just knew how to win games most teams would have lost. I'd be showing the team of 24 that's what a successful team looks like. Don't talk about the competition being difficult and even. Successful teams make their own luck and win on the road and whatever the weather brings.
We've been in the premiership void for nearly a quarter of a century. Maybe we need to be like the 2000 team in the finals series and not sing the song until we have achieved our goal. Maybe a finals win. We have to be completely focused as a team.
I turned the game off 2 minutes into the 2nd quarter, too frustrating to watch with the turnovers/poor disposal, 2 meter Peter needs to be dropped
No.
Unwise wet weather selections, why the heck was Hind not in the starting 22 ? How was Laverde left out ? Why does Cox continue to get a game ? Sadly Heppell too slow now. Umpiring as bad as the Geelong debacle. Looks like we're purely a Marvel team. Only play Wright at Marvel . Caddy still very raw
Tuning out of any Essendon based media/posts/etc for a week. I know we’ve been burned before but listening to the fans is honestly worse than seeing the team play poorly. We were expected to finish bottom 6 this year and we’ve exceeded all expectations in that regard. We’re going to slip up some weeks. We’ll smash the Crows next week and everyone will be back on the bandwagon again. Probably an unpopular opinion but I’m so tired of it.
It’s a fair comment - if it has been just a couple of years of this same old junk backed up by a fan base that seems content to say exactly what you just said. Not having a go at all but isn’t it time we simply refused to accept more of this rather than saying well actually we weren’t meant to be any better than bottom 6?
@@absolutelyessendon Nah I 100% understand the sentiment! Just realised how douchey my comment may have come across as, totally unintended! Fans are entitled to feel however they want on a week to week basis, Im just personally limiting myself from it. Still loving the content boys, see y’all in a week! ❤️
How many top 8 teams have Essington beaten? Another shallow season which has been masked by what could be the greatest draw this club’s ever had.
Essington - Masters of the Bottom Eight!
Dont blame the wet weather,Melbourne had to deal with it.they wanted it more than us,we are SOFT
Not blaming the weather at all but rather staggered as to why our team can’t adapt to the weather like Melbourne did
Are you looking at the performances of other teams ?? Inconsistency is the flavour of this season. Dogs, Blues, Pies, Power, GWS, Lions, Demons and even Sydney dropping two in a row. Hang in there and believe 🔴⚫️
Most of those teams will finish above Essendon. All of them have won a final in the last 20 years. 4 of them have won a flag in the same time. 2 of them have made Grand Finals. No more excuses please
There were a lot of passengers, but at the end of the day we have only a few players (caldwell, durham, merret) who are willing to get into the contest and hunt for the ball. We should drop Perkins and get Tsatas or Hobbs. Draper was ok, but hes not talking to our mids, he should dictate where hes tappig and then the mids move there instead of him thumping the ball in random direction to opposition players. Wright needs to go back to the VFL, the forward line just isnt working and i wouldnt mind langford going to the VFL (call it managed) and Martin being in the forward line, bring laverde back into the side in the backline.
Bang on about too many passengers. It's crazy we were even that close to the Dees playing with half a side. Tsatas isn't the answer. Forget the stats. He looks all over the place to me. Hobbs and Roberts in.
Ps Would've been nice to have Voss on the list to replace Wright. And Massimo to replace (throw a blanket over a few)...
@@desiolle2874 tsatas can play inside which is where he does his best work, let durham be the outside player as his dash and tackling is great. im still gutted we let quality players like Voss or Massimo go and persisted with some of the current AFL/VFL players. TBH im not sure what the selection dept was thinking, its not like we didnt need a quality forward or great wingman
@@wenisman I know YT comments can come back to haunt you but I'm willing to wager here and now that Tsatas isn't up to it. Been watching footy near 50 years and am a nuffy for the draft each year. I wanted Phillipou or Humphrey and I think Dodo went safe with Tsatas bc of the kids stats on paper. Could be wrong. Hope I'm wrong.
Voss never even got a senior game. Was watching his 2's form for Peel and he looks jacked and dangerous. Really mobile too. I'd much rather see him out there than 2M atm...
What? Move Martin back to the forward line? Huh? As if we're struggling to put scores on the board or somethin...
Oh, wait.
Exactly
Is there a post Adelaide loss show?
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I think we have decided to go for draft picks so we can use them and future ones to trade for Harley reid. End in the middle 6 and get a similar draw next year, except not play port in the bullshit round. We play 3 above us on the ladder which we lose, 3 below us, probably lose one, maybe 2. Then we end on 11 or 12 wins (no better than where we finished the last 3 seasons worsfold coached) and get a top 10 pick. Won't get top 4, pointless making finals. Pity cause if Sydney stumble, there are 6 or 7 teams that could win the flag, if they get top 4. Now that we are playing to get ready for next year, stop playing players that are going to be delisted at the end of the year, like Goldstein and heppell. Experiment with Roberts, Hobbs, maybe see how we go with Bryan and draper in the same team without Wright. Maybe try wanganeen in the back pocket, before we delist him, maybe it could work
That’s an interesting possibility
I'd play Bryan as a forward instead of Wright. Could give you a genuine split with ruck duties and you probably wouldn't lose anything in forward craft or F50 pressure. Wright barely leads anywhere and when the ball's on the deck he's a liability. 2M's a beautiful kick, that's about it. Reward Bryan for his patience, form and loyalty. Good footballers can excel just about anywhere.
@@desiolle2874 yeah if Bryan took wrights spot, it's not like he could do any worse. His goal kicking in the vfl seems pretty good. Fuck weideman would probably do better than Wright at the moment. I can see that if Wright got that form back, that he had for one year, we would be so much better, and we are stuck with him for a while now. The thing is, he ain't getting that form back in conditions like against Geelong Melbourne, he needs to get form back in conditions that suit him, and only then, can he be played in conditions that don't suit him, and he can try to learn to adapt further. The Geelong Melbourne games have just set him further back
God or Thanos should take the boys back to Morrabin and let them learn how to play in mud.
It wasn't muddy, it was slippery
Is it wrong that I was completely disgusted? Zero time for being positive
Zero to be positive about mate based on that mediocre performance with 2nd on the ladder up for grabs... it's like Essendon get a sniff and go oh, nah, let's make our supporters suffer for another year. Been the same shit for the last two decades it gets real farkking disheartening and as supporters we have every right to be pissed off in my opinion! They lacked heart for most of that game and we need find some ticker or will be another wasted year again. Furthermore put Martin down in the ford flank or wing he can do so much more damage on the scoreboard than Wright and some of the other wasted 22 making up that forward line! 😤
@@WEarp-ep3ysIs there a term for the fear of making finals? If you can name it you can fix it
@@bernierossi8062 yeah mate it's called the Essendon finals curse. We have been living the experience for many moons now as supporters and it starts wearing thin. The remedy is simple, go out and play each game as a collective 22 with some heart and competitive edge. I never thought Melbourne would've ran laps around us and exposed us like they did. If we show up to Marvel this Friday night against Adelaide with the lack of enthusiasm, it could be a long night for the boys and another season with missed opportunities. Sometimes the selectors have to make tough love calls on the team so to speak. Waiting for players to find form and costing us games due to poor decision making and lack of ticker in the contest needs to change. Several VFL players would've been much better selected in the way against both Geelong and Melbourne but yet again we adopted a talk forward line. When I served in the military (Infantry) only the strong survived the rigours so to speak. I believe the same theory applies to selecting our best 22 for each game. But what would I know I'm just a supporter and beloved Essendon fan, who has been watching the team disappoint fans for the last two decades. Would really suck if this is another repeats year of the same!
@@bernierossi8062 achievemephobia - fear of success or achieving your goals
I'm surprised you didn't refer to the battle of Little bighorn where a very cocky Custer was taught a lesson by the Sioux who were just harder at the ball on the day to be fair. I knew we were doomed last night when Cox needed to stand up and instead went very soft and just chose to watch instead.
Please don't encourage DT's historical references. But a good reference nonetheless!
My comments keep getting deleted so heres one that is PG
We don’t know why some comments are randomly not shown but please rest assured it’s not us!
@@absolutelyessendon it's the CZcams Ai, I know it wouldn't be you guys
We let a real golden opportunity too go in too 2nd position however as always we ruined it now we are 6th spot on the ladder which makes next week against the Crows a must win and plz trade Peter Wright
2MP won’t be traded. On a big salary for three more years.
Where are you guys?
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Once again the Essendon rollercoaster continues and now we come to the last part where we either come out covered in vomit or we turn the corner and embrace the challenge ahead and wear the adrenaline with pride. What a disappointment from those in charge to the players on the ground on Friday night and as soon as we looked like getting the old boat out with big hole in it and kept trying to stay afloat going through the rough sea that was Melbourne and eventually surrendering, I couldn't even get angry anymore because even the man in Alice Springs who has probably never seen a boat in his life new that this was not going to work. And so now this game will be used for educational purposes to show people who have no idea how to play footy in the wet just what not to do.
Sorry Saturday night.
Nice analogy!!! Thanks for sharing
Papley and Greene, yes please.And don't forget we had the MCG as our home-ground when some dumass money man convinced us to move to Darklands, thus an inability to play wet or big. 2023 is hanging over us like a bad cloud and my confidence level is not high. ps I don't mind the historical references. The only good from this weekend, Carlton lost.
The moment I saw it raining I was like we’re screwed and honestly the result wasn’t as bad as I thought it was gonna be if they hadn’t of spent a qtr and a half kicking backwards and sideways they probably would’ve won.
In saying that they definitely need to train in the wet more you can tell they have no idea how to play in the rain which is fk’d it’s a winter sport ffs 🤦♂️!
If it isn’t raining turn the sprinklers on and fkn get to work.
20 years in a coma
Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh)
Yes, We’re the great pretenders
Just laughin' and gay like clowns
We seem to be what we’re not, you see
We’re wearing the Sash with a frown
Pretending that you're still around
(Still around)
Scott has no idea how to select the team for playing conditions. He also has no idea how to correct our forward line inefficiency. Been a year long problem. He’s a 🤡
He has time to prove otherwise but yes, some of his team selections are bemusing
im so embarresed essendon is still in the top 4.
Don’t need to be embarrassed anymore - now 6th and crap performance away from 10th 😂
Essendon is the joke of the AFL 20 years without a finals win, James Hird curse of the Drug Saga, 2 million dollars in fines, Jobe Watson losing his Brownlow because of James Hird 2 years of been banned from the draft and 24 years since their last premiership oh yes this club has done well over the last 20 years what a JOKE. They were lucky to beat Collingwood with the pies missing 8 players they could not beat Melbourne with their good players missing and they struggle to beat the weak sides. And when the chance comes to go to 2nd guess what it's the old same story this club is like the Titanic sitting on the bottom of the ocean 3,800 meters this side will never win anything , Essendon is overrated as an AFL team the under 16s go in harder then these soft Players apart from Zach Merrett the rest is weak at that club the James Hird drug saga curse strikes again this club won't ever win a grand final nor a final which will end up been 10,000 days without a finals win.
You typed a couple of weeks ago that the Geelong game was the final straw for you but you're back. Can't take you seriously
@@stevelozevski8151 Hey Steve yes very true Geelong game was the final straw for me I used to care if they won or lost but ever since that Geelong game now I don't care anymore my comments are more about where the club is at , I myself have lots of Memorabilia and used to be a member and supporter before James Hird broke the club in half and caused all the damage now I am trying to sell my Memorabilia because of the drug saga past but no one wants to buy it lol🤣 , I also know of others who are sick to death of this club been on the bottom of the ocean not having done anything in 20 years We are starting to see members and supporters who have been waiting for so long starting losing faith and hope it won't be long before we see others over taken Essendon in most premierships won.
We don't like the wet...feel sorry for the women in there lives lol😂
Naughty
@@absolutelyessendon hehe 💓
It’s who we are guys …. Inconsistent and never able to see a season out. Why would you think that we are going to make finals ? Depends which team turns up against Adelaide, StKilda and Gold Coast. The one that carrels and backs off contests will struggle to win. We haven’t beaten anyone above us so pretenders again. It’s gotta be a bloody cultural thing
Cultural and a sad lack of talent outside of the best 6 or 7 players
I don’t rate Draper as a ruck he a good big man and he’d probably be a pretty good Fwd with how he attacks the ball, but he tapped it to the dees players all night he lost us the game should’ve played a more experienced ruck in Goldy!
I think if we had Kako and Berry we’d be a way more electric team I rate the 4 smalls 2 tall’s Fwd line it’s the modern line up and every good team has that kinda line up unless another tall is necessary, and then they play a 2nd ruck/Fwd one who can tap it to the smalls every team has got on this even Hawthorn has improved so much with that lineup Essendon need to change before they’re left behind!
Drapes can't be a forward. He kicks 'em off his knee...
Kako went and kicked a mini bag on the weekend to put his name in neon in the eyes of selectors. We're not getting him unless we burn our 1st on him. Menzie could be the small you're looking for. Gets 10 mins a game and is then dropped again. Leave him inside F50 and back him in. He's got pace and instinct but if he doesn't tackle in there he gets the ass. F50 pressure as important as snags.
@@desiolle2874 I know he can’t kick, but he can mark, handball and bring it to ground more then Wright has been doing!
@@desiolle2874 hopefully they change the rules this year so you can bid on a player if you have a pick within a certain amount of them being taken so they can match it after gifting the suns that many players a few clubs deserve a freebie instead of getting screwed for the AFL’s “mistake”.
@@desiolle2874 Menzie doesn’t tackle that his issue
@@kyalking1313 doesn’t stop Perkins or Cox getting a game
we're fakes. not making the 8.
You guys are spot on I feel the same way like you said it’s been going on for far too long. I’m currently assessing my options for next year do stupidly go again and spend over $2000 for another membership so I can drive for 3.5 hours down watch that shit and then drive back home for another 3.5 hours . I feel i should be asking for some sort of refund after parting with money for the past 25 years and seeing this crap every year 🫣
Oh and the club just loves to grab your money to pay out poorly thought through executive appointments/sackings and unnecessary player contract extensions
Also hard to see yourself as a team of Essendon players in those embarrassing and absurd jumpers.
Thanks
😊. Thanks so much