Or you could get a proper high definition Blu-ray from me that looks a hell of a lot better than the official Blu-ray. I used a different HD master for mine - not upscaled from DVD either. I used it to make this comparison video.
The dubbed version is hideous. I can't even stand to watch it. The new voices are painful to hear. I'm so thankful to have the original on DVD. Disney+ has gotten so far from it's origins, I canceled it completely.
@@ChuckPenn3 I remember hearing the dub version growing up in the 80s and 90s so the Disney+ version doesn't bother me at all. Sounds exactly how I remember it
Right. I had no problem understanding it. I don't now either. It is what I call a "quiet movie". One has to actually pay attention (all other things put down/turned off) and listen to what they are saying. @@DerekEvans1013
Your comparison is actually between the first overdub and the second overdub, not the original! American audiences had a hard time understanding the thick brogue in the original 1959 version. So around 1964, the first overdubbed version was generated. I saw it on TV many times, and that's the version on VHS and DVD. The Disney+ version is the second overdub, and I agree that the whitewashing is horrible. I would love to hear the original, unadulterated 1959 version. I suspect that Disney is keeping it under wraps.
I have the original VHS, both laserdiscs, the DVD and the Blu-ray. They all have the same soundtrack. The Disney+ has a terrible video master (also used on the Blu-ray) but has the dub, the same dub that I heard on The Disney Channel growing up in the 1980s. My contact who restored the film for Disney in the 1990s confirmed one dub, not two.
@@ChuckPenn3 According to Josh Taylor: "Released on June 26th, 1959, the film didn’t do well and lost money in its first run at the box office. Many American moviegoers said the Irish actors were too difficult to understand and the live-action film wasn’t as “Disney” as other films had been previously. In the re-release of the film in 1964, the actors were dubbed over by American actors" So since 1964, Disney has offered this first redubbed version. Most of us have never heard the 1959 version. It's noticeable to my ear. The voices are too crisp and clean, sounding like they were done in a recording studio, not a sound stage. The Widow Sugrue's voice is especially telling. It was done with a voice actor whose voice is familiar to me, probably from other Disney films of that era. This first redub is what was released on VHS, DVD, LaserDisc, etc.
I’m sure Estelle Winwood did her dubbing, but I’m not sure about Albert Sharpe or Jimmy O’Dea. It’s possible one or both of them may have, though Mr. Sharpe doesn’t sound like the same person to me.
I have never heard of this film but it looks delightful ❤ I am now going to look for the original version if I can find it. Some of the Disney movies cleaning up the priest and the sex trash is a good thing but erasing other things from history in our stories seems ridiculous to me. Just like Daryl Hannah’s behind In splash seemed silly to me. I remember seeing it as a young girl and thinking that she looked exactly like a real mermaid from folklore should look and they were supposed to be bare breasted and the part about her having no shame was important in the movie and I was like 8 or 9 when I saw that. I was not uncomfortable with her nudity so what is with the censorship now? Is it communism? It’s sad to see some of this disappear down the memory hole.
The print they show at Tarantino’s New Beverly is from the 1970s reissue and is the dubbed version. Yes, it’s in IB TECH, but it’s dubbed; I’d prefer it unaltered. No one at the theater seems to care.
Grew up with the original on VHS and it was great.
Well now they can add subtitles and let us have the original back.
There is indeed a reason I watch a dvd version over the Disney Plus version. The accents being dubbed doesn’t make any sense at all for the movie.
Or you could get a proper high definition Blu-ray from me that looks a hell of a lot better than the official Blu-ray. I used a different HD master for mine - not upscaled from DVD either. I used it to make this comparison video.
Hercules in New York
Fascinating. Thanks for the history. Is there a video edition that has the original track?
I obtained the dubbed track from Disney+ in 2020. I just checked (April 2022) and the original soundtrack is still unavailable on Disney+.
I wish I knew how to get the dubbed version!
The dubbed version is hideous. I can't even stand to watch it. The new voices are painful to hear. I'm so thankful to have the original on DVD. Disney+ has gotten so far from it's origins, I canceled it completely.
I can understand why it was dubbed but I'd rather watch the original and not know what the hell they are talking about lol
Every video release has the original audio. Disney+ plays the dub.
@@ChuckPenn3 I remember hearing the dub version growing up in the 80s and 90s so the Disney+ version doesn't bother me at all. Sounds exactly how I remember it
Right. I had no problem understanding it. I don't now either. It is what I call a "quiet movie". One has to actually pay attention (all other things put down/turned off) and listen to what they are saying. @@DerekEvans1013
Your comparison is actually between the first overdub and the second overdub, not the original! American audiences had a hard time understanding the thick brogue in the original 1959 version. So around 1964, the first overdubbed version was generated. I saw it on TV many times, and that's the version on VHS and DVD. The Disney+ version is the second overdub, and I agree that the whitewashing is horrible. I would love to hear the original, unadulterated 1959 version. I suspect that Disney is keeping it under wraps.
I have the original VHS, both laserdiscs, the DVD and the Blu-ray. They all have the same soundtrack. The Disney+ has a terrible video master (also used on the Blu-ray) but has the dub, the same dub that I heard on The Disney Channel growing up in the 1980s. My contact who restored the film for Disney in the 1990s confirmed one dub, not two.
@@ChuckPenn3 According to Josh Taylor: "Released on June 26th, 1959, the film didn’t do well and lost money in its first run at the box office. Many American moviegoers said the Irish actors were too difficult to understand and the live-action film wasn’t as “Disney” as other films had been previously. In the re-release of the film in 1964, the actors were dubbed over by American actors"
So since 1964, Disney has offered this first redubbed version. Most of us have never heard the 1959 version. It's noticeable to my ear. The voices are too crisp and clean, sounding like they were done in a recording studio, not a sound stage. The Widow Sugrue's voice is especially telling. It was done with a voice actor whose voice is familiar to me, probably from other Disney films of that era. This first redub is what was released on VHS, DVD, LaserDisc, etc.
Wait wait so it was the same.actors doing the redubbed?
I’m sure Estelle Winwood did her dubbing, but I’m not sure about Albert Sharpe or Jimmy O’Dea. It’s possible one or both of them may have, though Mr. Sharpe doesn’t sound like the same person to me.
I have never heard of this film but it looks delightful ❤ I am now going to look for the original version if I can find it. Some of the Disney movies cleaning up the priest and the sex trash is a good thing but erasing other things from history in our stories seems ridiculous to me. Just like Daryl Hannah’s behind In splash seemed silly to me. I remember seeing it as a young girl and thinking that she looked exactly like a real mermaid from folklore should look and they were supposed to be bare breasted and the part about her having no shame was important in the movie and I was like 8 or 9 when I saw that. I was not uncomfortable with her nudity so what is with the censorship now? Is it communism? It’s sad to see some of this disappear down the memory hole.
It's on CZcams this month
Chasing a what?
Pooka
I had to stop watching the dub on Disney+ as it was too distracting. I grew up with the original recordings
The print they show at Tarantino’s New Beverly is from the 1970s reissue and is the dubbed version. Yes, it’s in IB TECH, but it’s dubbed; I’d prefer it unaltered. No one at the theater seems to care.
@@ChuckPenn3As long as people enjoyed it and the movie is a traditional watch. I love it
Disney erasing Celtic culture
Thanks…I hate it
This dub was really unnecessary