What I don't understand is Why not Diesel Hybrids? Like replace the Chevy Volt's Gas Engine with a 4 Cyl. Diesel Engine, make the battery pack up to 65kWh and you have a cleaner long range vehicle. Or Tesla should add a Diesel engine to a version of the Model S with their 65, 80 and 85 kWh battery.
Last jetta I been in was back in 06 and I loved that car the engine was really peppy for a 5 cylinder I actually prefer those to a 4 and a 6 this passat is classy tho
For those who may follow: The higher-end, large screen nav system also boots and responds slower. The smaller screen uses less power out of the same chip so it can respond and load a bit faster. I'm averaging low-mid 40s on a round trip, post-dieselgate fix.
My parents own a 2013 Passat with the i5. My thoughts on it. -Good Sounds like a v10, amazing - perfect steering wheel Lots of room for tall men like me. (6 ft 3) front and back both Simple, non tacky, interior. Lots of decent materials Good progressive brake feel, same with the throttle Surprisingly sporty suspension but still comfortable -Bad Wind noise is very noticeable at 80kph - expensive oil changes All in all it's a good handling entry luxury car, but it does have wind noise.
+Nicholas Nore oil changes very very cheap if you do them yourself. i own an 06 passat full synthetic. walmart sells 5 quart jugs of full syn mobil 1 for around 20-26 dollars. thats basically all you need for an oil change. a new filter should run you 13--17 dollars based on brand. most my oil changes cost between 70-120 depending on the place i go but if i do them myself they cost under 40 dollars...and its ever 10K miles instead of 5K
Something that many of you may not know. In the back of the center console there is what looks to be a little storage area. According to a friend of a friend who works at a VW dealership, that little cubby hole was going to house vents for the rear passengers. But VW never got around to doing it.
All diesels, peugot,Citroen,Ford,Toyota D4D, all of these and most diesel lengines made in Europe are super quiet and super effecient and has oodles of torque, its just that America isnt lucky to get diesels in their mainstream market as others get in Asia,Europe,Australia,Africa
the thing that hurts the passat is a lack of features compared to competition. if VW is serious about the american market they need to update the jetta and passat more.
The american Passat looks muuuch more different than the original european one, it should barely be called Passat, even the interior is different, the key as well
@@RicCr8 I got mine with 50k on it and love it to death. I'm a delivery driver and the gas mileage is insane. Lowest in the city is 27mpg. Just hope you don't live in Cali because Diesel is expensive af It outdoes a civic when it comes to conservation. Blows it out the water
I bought a 2013 Passat in O'Fallon IL. Never again they are crooks. Since July I've had the car in the shop 4 times because check engine light keeps coming on! I had it there May 11th for light plus I bought 4 new tires. Now today May 16th light came on again! I bought it at Auffenberg Ford. They have a monopoly on all car lots in this area!
Can't have that kind of car with basic halogen headlight give my the auto headlights that's offered on the cc sport. And I would get a diesel but I'm a exhaustphile I need good exhaust like the fx35 or range rover supercharged v6
Excellent review. However why the hell doesn't VW make this model in AWD? I would def purchase it, but FWD in the winters here in CT would not cut it. Not a fanboy of winter tires either. But what a terrific model this thing is.
Never liked this Passat it's to conservative and lacks good modern tech options. Hope VW will fix that for the next gen. Anyways awesome car review like always.
Well the 2.5 probably isn't as fuel efficient as the 1.8 TSI engine would be though, "performance" is well subjective since it's not the top engine for such a car.
I read recently that VW is not pleased with its growth in North America. I guess even Subaru just bypassed it with respect to market share, which is strange given how prominent it is on the rest of the world stage. Do you think the price premium is still a deterrent for buyers?
www.goodcarbadcar.net/2013/11/usa-midsize-car-sales-figures-october-2013-ytd.html (CLICK THE PICTURE TO SEE THE CHART) The Passat is right in the middle of sales. Not bad not good. Certainly not the success of the Jetta, though.
Diesels are great due to gas mileage. The issue comes when look at what comes out of tail pipe. Which is were hybrids takes the cake. Definitely a great VW, no matter how you slice it
Wait for the HPFP to go out on one of these. If you're lucky enough to just have a screwed up fuel system, it's $8,000-$10,000 do the repair. Hopefully it won't turn into a problem with emissions control systems.
Djonkie Bonk Yes, they have a low pressure pump that pulls the fuel out of the tank and a high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) for injectors. Almost all diesels are direct injection. The difference is that diesels have more critical, higher pressure DI systems. If something does break, it can be expensive.
@@jrake80 if you have one , do not take it to vw to get it fixed. Engine is stronger with them restricting it. Im going to go tune mine with a stage 1.
I don't like the seals around the door for a car of this category I should not be seeing the metal of the door. I want more rubber to provide even better insulation.
The Passat doesn't compete directly with the A6, 5 Series and E-Class. He was referring to the Toyota Camry / Honda Accord class which the Passat is under.
Because in the 80s American automakers tried selling diesels and they were loud clanky and smelly. Obviously diesels are no longer like this but the reputation remains. That and diesel fuel is very expensive here.
It is not a durable, reliable car, that is why you barely see any old ones on the road, while you see tons of Camry and Accords from all generations still going strong, not so with these. And they did sell a lot of them back when.
sorry i didn't mean to offend you i meanth in my opinion there dull and boring cars there just not my type. but the European vw's are very well built luxury an leisure cars i guess the American versions aren't that lucky
yorrickwi Listen, if VW could improve their durability and reliability they would rule the auto business in the US because they "feel", drive and handle better that all these cookie cutter cars ever could. They have the driving dynamics of cars costing a lot more money, no-nonsense interiors and great seats, but again. Fix this and fix that and very expensive parts to boot. I would rather have a Jetta or a Golf than a Corolla but I need a reliable car that is not gonna cost me an arm and a leg in repairs.
i just did some research and the European passat and the us one are different cars entirely all cut down we get the nice reliable ones and the Americans get the crappy knock offs sold for the same amount of money all i can say is sorry for vw being a bitch but you don't seem to miss them :P
+Sara Desire' Idk what drugs ur smoking but my 2003 passat 1.8t just passed 280k miles ( yes mi not Km ) as soon as my passat dies I'm grabbing one of these whips
Where does that idiot below think a VW Diesel is not durable. Dam out last any north American engine on the market. Any diesel will do that. They cost less to maintain and there is nothing to go wrong with them. I just want to know where he gets his facts from look at all the Jettas and Passats on the road. It makes me very upset when he says they do not last they last longer than any other engine in the market place today and VW is quality not the slap together North America cars we have today. They work off tolerances for body and fit. North American work off slap together technology crap. They never went for a bail out like everyone but Chrysler. New technology that the big three do not have they still think the V8 is the end all to everything. You do not find allot of gas engines in Europe it is diesel. They have torque like you can not believe. They get high mileage not the gas hogs that are still being produced in North America and can be compared to a hybrid car. That is dam great when your compared to them I would say for mileage. Get some facts buddy you know nothing about what you are saying lame off the cuff trash talk.
It caters to a different market for the Americans as opposed to the European market. Also, Americans don’t buy station wagons (anymore) like Europeans do, which is why the Passat NMS (stands for New Midsize Sedan) has no wagon variant. Americans would rather buy SUVs but that’s a whole different story.
I have enough for spending for my cobalt "american" stupid expensive to put in parts..... japanese and German deserves to put on but the Jetta is belonged to American as my friend said it!!!!! So sad to know but that is the truth economic buyers.... sadly.... fuck you all who don't care about my self as much as they care about them self........
Even if it was, Mexican plants really got their stuff together. I’ve been to several on business trips and they’re more organized than American plants. Their auditors are tough as hell and take their quality very serious.
Ali Junaid A lot of middle eastern countries can't get enough of the crown vics and newer caprices. Secondly my job is to build these cars at the Chattanooga assembly plant and this was also designed in Europe FOR the American market.
The torque that a diesel engine provides is phenomenal. I've never driven a diesel car, but I wish I could.
Two years ago I found and bought a 2015 Passat SEL Prem TDI...........love it!
Came with the VW two year warranty and extended check engine warranty.
Very classy car for the price. LOVE THE WHEELS!
What I don't understand is Why not Diesel Hybrids? Like replace the Chevy Volt's Gas Engine with a 4 Cyl. Diesel Engine, make the battery pack up to 65kWh and you have a cleaner long range vehicle. Or Tesla should add a Diesel engine to a version of the Model S with their 65, 80 and 85 kWh battery.
Pinksnowbirdie lol
This car is 1,000,000,000 times better than the Camry
I love these so much. I really can't convey how much I love them. They are so good.
Last jetta I been in was back in 06 and I loved that car the engine was really peppy for a 5 cylinder I actually prefer those to a 4 and a 6 this passat is classy tho
For those who may follow: The higher-end, large screen nav system also boots and responds slower. The smaller screen uses less power out of the same chip so it can respond and load a bit faster. I'm averaging low-mid 40s on a round trip, post-dieselgate fix.
My parents own a 2013 Passat with the i5. My thoughts on it.
-Good
Sounds like a v10, amazing - perfect steering wheel
Lots of room for tall men like me. (6 ft 3) front and back both
Simple, non tacky, interior. Lots of decent materials
Good progressive brake feel, same with the throttle
Surprisingly sporty suspension but still comfortable
-Bad
Wind noise is very noticeable at 80kph - expensive oil changes
All in all it's a good handling entry luxury car, but it does have wind noise.
+Nicholas Nore oil changes very very cheap if you do them yourself. i own an 06 passat full synthetic.
walmart sells 5 quart jugs of full syn mobil 1 for around 20-26 dollars. thats basically all you need for an oil change. a new filter should run you 13--17 dollars based on brand. most my oil changes cost between 70-120 depending on the place i go but if i do them myself they cost under 40 dollars...and its ever 10K miles instead of 5K
Check out idparts.com
I love love the Volkswagen tdi Had two jettas that had the tdi and now I have my eyes on a 2013 Passat tdi
Something that many of you may not know. In the back of the center console there is what looks to be a little storage area. According to a friend of a friend who works at a VW dealership, that little cubby hole was going to house vents for the rear passengers. But VW never got around to doing it.
For the 2014 model year VW did add vents on the SEL models.
I like the shark blue paint
All diesels, peugot,Citroen,Ford,Toyota D4D, all of these and most diesel lengines made in Europe are super quiet and super effecient and has oodles of torque, its just that America isnt lucky to get diesels in their mainstream market as others get in Asia,Europe,Australia,Africa
Give me a TDI anyday....wish over here in mexico that you didn't need a zero Sticker to go into mexico city lol. now i'm stuck in a Dart...
It is a weird engine note, but I kind of like it :]
Just got a 2012 Passat SE for $1,000 yesterday! Very excited, replacing the throttle body and making it my other daily.
where did you get it from and what was the mileage on it?
@@theyluvtori.Facebook marketplace, and 182k!
what is the pricing nowadays?
the thing that hurts the passat is a lack of features compared to competition. if VW is serious about the american market they need to update the jetta and passat more.
Cheap but an enthusiast type of car, great torque, lots of horsepower, decent interior by 2004 or up for a student, any ideas?
Passat's sell like crazy here in Europe.
Thanks for making a review of this car! I requested one about 4 weeks ago, so that was pretty quick. :)
VW has great looking cars, the old 1990's Passat still looks fresh to this day, ageless styling. Sonata should take notice.
Fuck sonata
please do a E46 330 man
I have an 04 passat wagon and the back seat is also huge.
Must have been the following generation that had smaller seats.
The 2006-2010 Passat is great with lots of power wdym
The american Passat looks muuuch more different than the original european one, it should barely be called Passat, even the interior is different, the key as well
Nice Review Of 2012 Volkswagen Passat TDI. 😁
Awesome review! Any chance we will get to see a bunch of 2014s as they come out? Waiting 2 years is kind of a bummer.
So I'm confused. I have a 2017 Passat SE TDI FULLY LOADED but the gas cap says unleaded duel only?!
That's a very nice car
Can't argue with that range :)
My brother in law has a 2012 Passat SE TDI DSG and loves it!
40 mpg highway? man what are you talking about? those TDI get up to 55 mpg when cruising
Hmm. Highest I got on the highway was 42-44 on cruise control
@@RicCr8 I got mine with 50k on it and love it to death. I'm a delivery driver and the gas mileage is insane. Lowest in the city is 27mpg. Just hope you don't live in Cali because Diesel is expensive af
It outdoes a civic when it comes to conservation. Blows it out the water
@@RicCr8 God help your soul :'(
Well, it does equal out regardless of diesel or gas. I still think it's worth it! Better for the environment as well
What speed you cruising at? Best I get combined city and highway is like 35
can you please try to find a E46 323CI thanks!
I bought a 2013 Passat in O'Fallon IL. Never again they are crooks. Since July I've had the car in the shop 4 times because check engine light keeps coming on! I had it there May 11th for light plus I bought 4 new tires. Now today May 16th light came on again! I bought it at Auffenberg Ford. They have a monopoly on all car lots in this area!
hell yeah diesel!
It's daytime running light has already failed front right lol!
***** I can't imagine what kind of abuse will cause a headlight wear out and fail.
The I like the old gen Passat!!
Can you do a 2014 ford f-150 fx4 tremor?
do the new accord next!
Can't have that kind of car with basic halogen headlight give my the auto headlights that's offered on the cc sport. And I would get a diesel but I'm a exhaustphile I need good exhaust like the fx35 or range rover supercharged v6
My 2012 tdi has a back up camera that came with it
The "D" in TDI doesn't stand for diesel lol. It stands for Turbocharged Direct Injection
Can you do a review of a 04-08 Toyota Matrix XRS
Excellent review. However why the hell doesn't VW make this model in AWD? I would def purchase it, but FWD in the winters here in CT would not cut it. Not a fanboy of winter tires either. But what a terrific model this thing is.
There is a 4x4 version called 4motion and even a light-offroad version called Allroad (google "vw passat allroad"). But not for the US.
is it just me or is the steering column too far to the right in the Passat?
Never liked this Passat it's to conservative and lacks good modern tech options. Hope VW will fix that for the next gen. Anyways awesome car review like always.
Looking back at this video before their diesel gate, "Diesel engines are going to be the future" didn't age well😕, plus everything is going electric.
Thankfully the 2.5 I-5 is being phased out for a 1.8L TSI engine.
Meh, the 2.5 was a tank. Who needs "performance" in a family sedan?
Well the 2.5 probably isn't as fuel efficient as the 1.8 TSI engine
would be though, "performance" is well subjective since it's not the top engine for such a car.
Why thankfully😂 the 2.5 way better
Hi there just a Question How many km will gives you with full tank of gas please? Can you give an answer. Thank you.
Should do 1000km or more per tank
I own a TDI, so not hating, but......at 10:50.... that comment didn’t age well.
Are these still gonna be fun to drive af tee they get fixed ?
Idk about the passat but the jetta remained unnoticeable before and after
I read recently that VW is not pleased with its growth in North America. I guess even Subaru just bypassed it with respect to market share, which is strange given how prominent it is on the rest of the world stage. Do you think the price premium is still a deterrent for buyers?
www.goodcarbadcar.net/2013/11/usa-midsize-car-sales-figures-october-2013-ytd.html (CLICK THE PICTURE TO SEE THE CHART)
The Passat is right in the middle of sales. Not bad not good. Certainly not the success of the Jetta, though.
Diesels are great due to gas mileage. The issue comes when look at what comes out of tail pipe. Which is were hybrids takes the cake. Definitely a great VW, no matter how you slice it
Diesel is also a little more expensive per gallon so that also has to be factored in
Wait for the HPFP to go out on one of these. If you're lucky enough to just have a screwed up fuel system, it's $8,000-$10,000 do the repair. Hopefully it won't turn into a problem with emissions control systems.
I thought that only applied to the DI I6 motors on the BMWs which have 2 fuel pumps? This car has two fuel pumps as well?
Djonkie Bonk
Yes, they have a low pressure pump that pulls the fuel out of the tank and a high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) for injectors. Almost all diesels are direct injection. The difference is that diesels have more critical, higher pressure DI systems. If something does break, it can be expensive.
Cm22c
$8k-$10k for a HPFP job? Isn't the pump just a couple of hundred dollars? Are there any other things to be concerned with?
@@MrJohnnyDistortion hes exaggerating . $900 with labour
Why are there so many TDI Passats for sale compared to other engines? Is it that slow underpowered that people are getting rid of them?
The issue vw had with the diesel scandal. Scared people who own them into thinking they'll get stuck with them.
@@jrake80 if you have one , do not take it to vw to get it fixed. Engine is stronger with them restricting it. Im going to go tune mine with a stage 1.
I don't like the seals around the door for a car of this category I should not be seeing the metal of the door. I want more rubber to provide even better insulation.
Second and great video
Is this around the size of an audi a6?
no its slightly smaller, but not much, more of an a4 size
Do these tdi come in manual or just automatic transmission ?
It comes with a Bluetooth
Both
00:41 "only German Family Sedan in the market" ?? So you never think about A6, 5-series, E-class?
The Passat doesn't compete directly with the A6, 5 Series and E-Class. He was referring to the Toyota Camry / Honda Accord class which the Passat is under.
You don't mention if it comes with bluetooth 🤷♂️
it does! i drive one and it’s got bluetooth, AM, FM, satellite & aux
@@kaylie1333 Does this connect to the new phones like the iPhone 11?! I have one and I want to know
@@luvdeejay5938 yes! it does :) just have to pair them
why does america hate diesels? This isnt me complaining, this is me wondering....
Because in the 80s American automakers tried selling diesels and they were loud clanky and smelly. Obviously diesels are no longer like this but the reputation remains. That and diesel fuel is very expensive here.
ah i live in the UK and diesel is more expensive but not by much, i never took into account the prices.... thanks :)
We don't. We love diesels. The government and their ev loving warmongering counterparts hate diesels because it interferes with their agenda.🤷🏽♂️
It is not a durable, reliable car, that is why you barely see any old ones on the road, while you see tons of Camry and Accords from all generations still going strong, not so with these. And they did sell a lot of them back when.
yeah but japanese cars are classless exept for the sports / rally cars there quite good
yorrickwi
I own a Corolla so I guess I have no class at all, but I don't have a hundred repair receipts either.
sorry i didn't mean to offend you i meanth in my opinion there dull and boring cars there just not my type. but the European vw's are very well built luxury an leisure cars i guess the American versions aren't that lucky
yorrickwi
Listen, if VW could improve their durability and reliability they would rule the auto business in the US because they "feel", drive and handle better that all these cookie cutter cars ever could. They have the driving dynamics of cars costing a lot more money, no-nonsense interiors and great seats, but again. Fix this and fix that and very expensive parts to boot. I would rather have a Jetta or a Golf than a Corolla but I need a reliable car that is not gonna cost me an arm and a leg in repairs.
i just did some research and the European passat and the us one are different cars entirely all cut down we get the nice reliable ones and the Americans get the crappy knock offs sold for the same amount of money all i can say is sorry for vw being a bitch but you don't seem to miss them :P
The European version looks much better then the North American version IMO
Cruzin Streets yes
no
SO WHATS BETTER A PASSAT TDI OR A JETTA TDI?
Neither😾💀🙄
both are crap
+Sara Desire' Idk what drugs ur smoking but my 2003 passat 1.8t just passed 280k miles ( yes mi not Km ) as soon as my passat dies I'm grabbing one of these whips
Ok... 🕪🕪🕪+Barley Mow
Is this car new, because theres warnings light on the dash
Where does that idiot below think a VW Diesel is not durable. Dam out last any north American engine on the market. Any diesel will do that. They cost less to maintain and there is nothing to go wrong with them.
I just want to know where he gets his facts from look at all the Jettas and Passats on the road. It makes me very upset when he says they do not last they last longer than any other engine in the market place today and VW is quality not the slap together North America cars we have today. They work off tolerances for body and fit. North American work off slap together technology crap. They never went for a bail out like everyone but Chrysler. New technology that the big three do not have they still think the V8 is the end all to everything. You do not find allot of gas engines in Europe it is diesel. They have torque like you can not believe. They get high mileage not the gas hogs that are still being produced in North America and can be compared to a hybrid car. That is dam great when your compared to them I would say for mileage.
Get some facts buddy you know nothing about what you are saying lame off the cuff trash talk.
if you shift at 2750 rpm the acceleration significantly improves. (i own a jetta tdi)
Why is the european passat different from this one? I live in germany and ive only seen 1 of this in my city
Anyways why are they different?
It caters to a different market for the Americans as opposed to the European market.
Also, Americans don’t buy station wagons (anymore) like Europeans do, which is why the Passat NMS (stands for New Midsize Sedan) has no wagon variant. Americans would rather buy SUVs but that’s a whole different story.
The european version is better.
Does it have a spare tire?
Kinda late reply but yea it does under the liner of the trunk
review a 2016
I'm willing to bet a head or taillight goes out soon if it hasn't already...
Yep VW issues...
What? Do you Think a Jeep og a Dodge is better built quality then?
must be your american built cars. my 2003 vw bora is doing very well.
Prices tag that is why!!!!! Though it doesn't deserve the time if you can sell for junk too quick
I have enough for spending for my cobalt "american" stupid expensive to put in parts..... japanese and German deserves to put on but the Jetta is belonged to American as my friend said it!!!!! So sad to know but that is the truth economic buyers.... sadly.... fuck you all who don't care about my self as much as they care about them self........
Hecho en Mexico ?
No
Even if it was, Mexican plants really got their stuff together. I’ve been to several on business trips and they’re more organized than American plants. Their auditors are tough as hell and take their quality very serious.
Chattanooga, Tennessee
previous passat had a huge back seat lmao sir...
It's a very nice vehicle, but not digging that paint color.
Only german family sedan???? Ur done
first
before they figured out the emission scandal...such a shame :(
Do u have a tdi?
Since Americans wants the biggest engines, VW should have offered the 170 horsepower rather than the 140
They did both but the 170hp was offered in the 2.5 5 cylinder
The embarrassed neon outstandingly tow because celery pragmatically shiver inside a humorous hood. tasty, blue-eyed spaghetti
Why does the Americans have to ruin a 100% perfekt European design?
And why do have to have a V8?
***** American
it's because Americans can't design a quality vehicle...geeks like chevy and gmc are far behind....useless cars
Ali Junaid A lot of middle eastern countries can't get enough of the crown vics and newer caprices. Secondly my job is to build these cars at the Chattanooga assembly plant and this was also designed in Europe FOR the American market.
"diesels are going to be the future" well I guess you were wrong buddy.
Dont buy vw.