Lever action/revolver combo for survival
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2019
- Cowboys and others on the western frontier in the mid-late 1800's often carried a lever action and revolver chambered in the same cartridge. 150 years later, preppers should consider doing the same in order to simplify logistics. Lever actions and revolvers are as effective for hunting and defense as they were back then. www.selfreliancepublishing.com
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I had the same thoughts. In a pure survivor oriented situation. Or a long term bug out, one bullet to rule them all. 357 baby. It is a Best All Around decision
A .357 combo is likely to be my next major gun purchase.
Mine as well
Do it amigo
My first handgun was the colt single action army when I was 21. Just got the Rossi 1892 saddle ring lever action. Both in 357
My every day setup
Did you do it?
I have a Rossi/Puma .357 20" carbine, and a 6" S&W .357 revolver. I like the combo, which I bought in 2003... so twenty years ago.
I reload 15 different calibers, cast my own lead bullets and have been saying for a long time that if I ever had to narrow everything down to one caliber it would be 357 magnum for all the reasons you mentioned.
Why not .45😭😭🥺
@@oscarbear7498 I still reload 45acp and like the caliber, but I don't reload 45LC. The main reason I would choose 357 mag instead of 45acp is because the ammo is lighter weight which matters if you're having to carry ammo in a backpack in the wilderness and from a 3" barrel or longer the 357 mag has more energy than 45acp. From a rifle barrel the 357 mag has over 1000 ft lbs energy and with many loadings has more energy than a AR15 shooting 556. Plus 357 mag bullets have a higher sectional density meaning they'll penetrate deeper or break through thicker bones than 45acp. When it comes to 45LC I don't reload it because I already reload 44 mag so I don't see any advantage to having another caliber that uses very similar bullets that are only 5% wider. The other main reason is because 44 mag brass is 10 times easier to find for free at my local shooting ranges than 45LC brass. The reason why I would choose 38/357 mag vs 45LC or even 44spc/44 mag is because the kinetic energy difference isn't very much, the ammo weight is heavier and 38 special wouldn't damage as much meat on small game as 44 special or 45LC would. Plus in an emergency if you needed to pull apart ammo of different calibers that you find to make your own ammo, the chances are much higher the ammo you find will have small primers as opposed to large primers which means it would be easier to reload 357 mag from scavenged components than it would 44 mag or 45LC.
@@Prepare2Survive very interesting.
Personally I just went all in on .45 cal.
45acp is basically a fat 9mm , extending the cartridge you get a 45colt, and can be loaded to 45 colt +p which is slightly more energy than 44mag, you can extend the casing to 454 casull which is pretty much all you need for hunting ,and to go the distance of 200 yards you can go 460mag that's flat shooting at that distance. Basically a 45-70 thats more efficient in shorter barrel , 45-70 could be loaded hotter but there's no need if 460 is already over kill.
It has the widest spectrum of velocity for a size bullet.
It is heavier, and you'll need a 460xvr, 460 encore.
A Redhawk in 454 casull is probably the best option that's rated at 65psi, you can skip the rifle and just carry that with a mounted scope. That's where I see it shining in that you just take 1 gun vs 2.
357 is more comfortable and compact, cheaper to shoot so you get more practice. Since I only focus on .45 it's not so bad, but if I had other caliber it would just sit there. I love guns but unfortunately it's best to stick to 1-2 calibers max and become the best at those vs having 8 different calibers and shooting them ever so often... which is what I first did.
Plus for ammo stock piling, it's a nightmare to have to stock for 8 different calibers vs just 1 or maybe 2.
@@oscarbear7498 Yeah, the one gun that does it all is a great concept. I think a lot of people are getting into 10mm Auto for that reason. The 460 / 454 / 45lc offers some good versatility, but the firearm and ammo weight is considerably more AND those calibers do much more damage to meat on small game. During an extended disaster where people are starving, depending on where you live most of the medium to large game will be hunted away first and it's the smaller game that'll still be available. In a situation like that it's probably also a good idea to use small game traps like 110 and 220 conibear traps because they won't draw any attention from starving people like the sound of a gunshot will. That's essentially the sound of a dinner bell going off. That also makes a good case for having a silencer on a handgun and/or rifle. 45acp, 38 special, 44 special and 45lc can be subsonic and very quiet with a silencer.
@@Prepare2Survive 45 cal from what I've look at us the closest thing to a do it all gun that doesn't exist. You can also shoot cowboy special which is basically a 45acp in a revolver to slow down even more.
Also 410 being of size to shoot birds, the weight is an issue but if it can replace a rifle enough in most situations I'll skip the rifle.
Rifle being used for shots over 150 yards, If a revolver can take shots at 150 yards with a shooting stick, I'll leave the Rifle and just bring the revolver vs a handgun and rifle.
Taking 2 guns is just ridiculous, as you'll just use the better gun, the back up gun is dead weight, and if you have to switch to the back up gun your probably dead or wished you just packed more ammo for your better gun for shtf. How i got to the conclusion to just focus on 1 caliber.
For small game like rabbit, I rather use a bow, trap, snare, something that isn't a gun. Keeping ammo just for combat, angry dog, and sometimes deer in shtf.
The only thing I don't like about the 357 magnum is the energy it carries at 150 yards. Now 350 legend.... look intresting, it's like a 357 magnum but more modern and has a flat shot at 125 yards.
350 legend might be the better pick , I don't have experience with it but there's alot of hype and on paper has the velocity, energy, and flat trajectory to even hit out to 200 yards, perfect.
Unfortunately I'm too invested in .45 and extra funds I rather just stash more ammo or use it in other areas vs buy another gun xD although very tempting.
If I did buy a new gun it would be in 350 legend just to try it. I think you might like it since you already have the bullets, sharing the same diameter to a 357mag.
well done , and I agree ... a Henry with a 20" barrel takes ten plus 1 , and six or seven in a revolver ... heck that is a lot of defensive lead flying
You have made a very valid point! I appreciate that you took time to mention you own a few other weapons of different calibers, however, the ammunition you have to actually accumulate and store is one caliber. I also appreciate that you took some time to actually research and present the historical evidence to back your argument/case. Thank You. For a well researched, thought out post on this topic. May you and your Family have a Blessed Day.
Dang, still playing ,”cowboy” at your age!!! Lol!!! Building that gun rack did that to you!!!🤪 Good idea! Awesome video!!!
You know it! My problem as a kid was I could never decide if I wanted to be a cowboy or an Indian. I still have that problem. We’ll be talking about Indians soon... thanks for watching!
A .22 LR combo has some real merit also.
As to the .44 wcf you can get both a repro 1873 rifle and Schofield in that caliber.
I have several different sets of rifle/ handgun combos. I have to to especially liking the .357 for myself if survival meant an every day carry. If a situational problem presents itself I have a .45/.45 Thompson combo. I also have AR and handgun combos in 9mm. Reason I have so many various combos - I can hand off some to family members to enhance our survivability.
Great minds think alike
I went freedom arms model 83 454,
And a rossi 92 454,,
Also a 444p outfitter,
And a magnum research bfr 444
I agree that's why i carry my 556 AR pistol and my 556 AR rifle. My AR also carries its own pistol glock 19x that shares mags and ammo with my Ruger PCC that i keep in my BOB. But seriously i really did pair my glock And my Pcc together and now I'm working on a marlin 357 with a revolver. Thanks for the video
Quality video to the point and informative keep up the good work.
An often overlooked advantage of revolvers and lever guns is that ammo quality is less important than with semi-autos, so you can load anything that fits and won't have problems with the action as it is all manual. It's why I like bolt action hunting rifles and break/pump shotguns over self loaders.
The people going on about magazine capacity clearly don't hunt - if your first shot doesn't hit, most animals won't hang around for your 20th!
excellent choice friend. I also have the 357 combo. i also have the 44mag combo. Most likely i would grab the 357 combo however i give serious consideration to my 22lr combo, either my gp100 or my single action 22lr/22mag with either my ruger 10/22 stainless takedown and 25 round mags or my henry 22lr.
Good video. Hope you continue making them.
Thanks! I’m planning on it. I had some changes in life and had a lot on my plate, but I’m working through it and should be making more soon. Thanks for the comment.
Great video two thumbs up👍👍. After owning A bunch of guns except for a lever action which one day I’ll probably get it. My number one standard is it’s got to be high quality stainless steel guns. Because of excessive wear and it goes into an sonic cleaner with simple green to remove all carbons and oil.Note my two favorite pistols are .22 Ruger SS Mark II 6” Government model and the Ruger SS GP-100 6”
Nice video. . . I think you should cove the combo carry of .22 or .22 magnum.
Thanks! Are you thinking a combo of .22 and .22 mag or .22 or .22 mag plus something else?
.22LR Pistol & Rifle or .22 WMR Pistol & Rifle. . .
I feel like a revolver chambered in .22 paired with a .22/12 gauge over-under would be sweet little set up. I guess you could even run a 12 gauge single shot with caliber inserts if you wanted to go cheap/minimalist.
@@graymadden8707 Nice video. Bob Gone Wild's on to something. I carry the 3'' Ruger LCRx revolver in 22 mag. with my 18'' Ruger American bolt in 22 mag loaded with the standard 10 rd mag and keep a 15 rd mag for backup/capacity. It's a great light combo for long distance hiking or backpacking, when packed-weight really counts. If I want more power in the revolver, I take the 3'' 38 special LCRx along with the 22 mag bolt rifle.
Yep. That's what I've been telling them down at the office. These guys with 20 different guns/calibers...too much. If you got friends you coop prep with, consider standardizing your choice of a caliber so you can share. If I had to choose only one firearm and no sidearm? 20 gauge with a 20-22 inch barrel and a wide variety of ammo: Birdshot, BB, Buck, and Slugs. 12 gauge tears up small game too much but a 20 gauge will kill anything in North America with the right load and shot placement. It's like the "intermediate round" philosophy: Reasonably powerful and better weight/firepower ratio for carrying lots of ammo.
love it
Good advise for horseback. Only so much you can pack.
I think it’s good way to go! Even for civil unrest!
Very good info. I have always thought this same thing. High-speed low drag semis are awesome. But I like to also think about many years after SHTF. I think this combo can be the best and easier combo to keep running for years after all the plastic guns have started to run down. I also believe in reloading, and with that learn to reload with hand tools like the original lee loader.
Thanks for the great vid.
I have a Beretta rifle and a Beretta handgun that both use the same magazine. Does that count?
I doubt the rifle is lever action so your combo would still be Carbine-Pistol but not quite Lever Action-Revolver. Cudos to same caliber tho!
what guns are they?
I see yoo video and I like. Just I wanna see a knife and perfect... Good combo
🇦🇺😎👍Double nice
44magnum combo sorry 357 just falls a little short . 44magnum big game bear defense it’s a do all round
I didn't enjoy shooting my 44 mag. pistol that much. Follow-up shots weren't as quick. just didn't like it. I really like my .357 mag. with 6" barrell ported. not as intimidating, quicker followup, i am more accurate and with jacketed bullets, it will take down a grizzly no problem with well placed, well penetrated shots to the vitals! sold my 44 mags and bought the 357 combo in rossi 92 20".
The never find yourself in a scenario that needs more then 3 shots is a myth self deffense shootings end in an average of 3 shots not a majority of 3 shots most self deffense scenarios end in no shots and you rarely end up in one to begin with but that dosent mean you can't or won't end up in one that requires more if you end up In a shooting self deffense scenario where the bad guy dosent run away the probality of you using more then 3 shots is fairly high the reload statement is true as gun fights don't last long and you don't have time to reload under fire so what you have in capacity is what you have drawing a back up is actually more common then reloading so that's worth mentioning I don't hate revolvers I love revolvers especially for self deffense but all guns have limitations advantages and disadvantages the revolvers is capacity and its advantages are reliability and not being able to induce a jam if someone grabs it
This! No one talks about this! They are too busy larping in a plate carrier with a 10ar 🤣🤣
This is the most practical “system” for shtf.. think Wild West.... 357 is way more powerful.. and don’t forget 357 out of a carbine is pushing real rifle velocities with a 30cal pill.. 1700fps with 150g is no joke..
This is what I don't understand. So, you're out there for whatever reason kinda loaded down with some survival gear, water, and food. You've got your lightweight, high-tech .38/.357 mag revolver, some appropriate ammo, and......a 9 pound lever action (with ammo and sling) in the same caliber. Come on manufacturers. Give us a lightweight, high-tech lever action to go with our high-tech lightweight revolver. Many thanks.
Check out the Rossi 1892 in 357mag, only 5 lbs and a very robust action.
Eh, I'd rather live in modern times.. I'll take my AR10/LPVO and SA pistols.
well duh, thats only common sense. nobody needed you to tell them any of this, everybody already knows all of this😮
Gracias por mirar, y por el comentario!
Your not getting the power of a actual rifle though.