The Sad Death of Physical Media
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@@colorlesswonderland clickbait title .... Physical Media isn't dead
Movies outlived Blockbuster, and I'm confidant they will outlive Netflix if we can keep physical media alive.
What you said makes no sense. Movies WERE blockbuster. And they ARE Netflix.
lol Netflix is booty and another form of propaganda nowadays. Movies were better pre 2016
@@Dayxh8clown
I was in my local record shop a few days ago. I actually had to join a long queue of people who were buying CD’s, DVD, Blu Ray, 4k, and vinyl. Doesn’t look to me like physical media is dying any time soon …. 😊
We are just a niche market like vinyl now. So many amazing labels releasing stuff we NEVER would have got in dvds heyday
Niche in terms of what...profits to the studio or profits to the grand scheme of things?
Generational rose color glasses with "niche". Physical media is doing just fine. I find it comical how many hipsters are flocking to literally garbage that won't sell at exchange stores like a fleamarket when the premo stuff goes for 4 times the amount on auction sites.
The collectors know the true value.
oh shit it’s nice seeing another video from you it’s been a minute, glad to see you back
I think for me, the problem is that I don't have any device to play discs on. Most people my age move from dorm to dorm or small apartments, and we don't have the money or space to invest into a TV+disc player. Laptops with disc drives (or even hdmi/vga ports) are also becoming rare. Books, on the other hand, can be engaged directly straight outta the shop, and I can carry them around anywhere.
If you have an Xbox or a PlayStation 5 you have a player.
Edit: assuming it has a disc drive. Those consoles are beginning to go disc less.
@@neondarling379 since the discless ps5 is cheaper and was easier to get at leat in my country, I think even that option is dying out. Also idk if a college student can afford a ps5. The older model works as well tho, PS4 can play bluray too. Bt you are right, I do use my consoles for blurays a lot
That is a great point that I hadn't even considered when I was thinking of this topic. It took me genuinely 2+ years to finally see a PS5 in stores so I can imagine it was just as hard for everyone else to have some access to platforms to watch physical media. I also was the exact same way in college, all of my blu rays stayed at home because I had no way of watching them
PlayStation 4 accepts discs
That's why a book is one of the best present options. However, Play Station does play discs.
Physical media will never die
It's already dead.
@@servare2599 wrong!
@@MATDMixes it’s dead for me, I couldn’t care less about a disc just for the “maybe” I might watch it in the future. Ownership isn’t necessary for movies you watch once, and that’s 90% of how I go about watching things.
I never understood the FOMO type doomsday scenario people that hoard movies, if the end of the world is approaching or an apocalypse occurs you’re going to have bigger priorities than some plastic. And if you don’t, then you’re a lost cause.
@@servare2599I think ur just lazyyyy like all the streamers People buy physical media to own it and it has wayyyy better picture quality than streaming and offers bonus feature. Something streaming will never offer 😅😅😅😅 people want everything free and that’s what streaming is basically cable yo keep paying a licensed but how long will that last cause prices will keep going up to rob ur money to own Nothingggggg 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@RobertQuant “something steaming will never offer” wishful thinking buddy, tech advances rapidly, did we stop at VHS, DVD or Blu Ray? You discs are fixed they’re never going to improve regardless, they’ll just milk you again when they feel it’s appropriate.
It’s not the solution for most of us, regardless of “quality” I’ve run my own tests on high end equipment and have come to the conclusion that this is not a difference worth worrying about.
Long live physical media.
Let’s keep buying cds 💿 blue rays DVDs and 4K to keep physical media alive
He is back 🎉🎉🎉
My 600+ films and 30+ TV shows aren't going anywhere!
Most are DVDs and my favorites on blu ray. I'm happy to own what I love, and not rely on a streaming service to revisit my favorite films. Collect asap! Build your own collection as streaming will continue to rise in price.
Art is a distraction from all the bad things happening right now and that's why we have to protect art. I'm glad, you're back. I missed you on CZcams.
In interesting news Arcane season 1 recently got a bluray announced as season 2 is coming soon to Netflix. Riot Games used Netflix as the distributor for the show, but now season 1 is getting a physical release so I'm really curious about the details of their distribution agreement.
I wonder if it's because it's not wholly a netflix original?
@@colorlesswonderland I would assume that is the reason why. Riot only used Netflix as a worldwide streaming distributor, so even though it's a "Netflix Original", Netflix themselves should have had zero input in the series both in terms of money and direction.
Additionally, the Blu-ray and 4k Blu-ray are being distributed by GKIDS, who are an independent film distributor based in New York City. You may know them for distrusting a lot of animated works from Studio Ghibli and works such as: The End of Evangelion, The First Slam Dunk, Promare, Tokyo Godfathers and more.
I recently got their "The First Slam Dunk" Blu-ray and it was a bit barebones, only including the english trailers, audio commentary from the english cast, and one interview with the creator/director. But that may be just what they were given. I hope the Arcane Blu-ray includes the entire behind the scenes series they posted to CZcams called "Bridging the Rift."
This is why you pirate and donate directly to the creators. Its the only way to "own" certain movies
Always remember, Piracy isn't theft if purchasing isn't owning.
I think what will accelerate its demise is shipping costs. Most places are charging $6.99 for standard shipping which is just utterly ridiculous.
I love collecting physical media and I love that stores have stopped fooling themself into thinking any place other than a specific physical media collectible store should have. Only collectors buy physical shows or songs so Best Buy doesn’t need to offer physical media, and the demand for collectible stores is rising so fast as the supply of media dwindles
I bought a blu-ray player today so I can buy more physical media and actually have a way to watch them. I have lost all trust I once had on streaming services and have started to collect my favorite media in a physical form that I can own, which no company can take from me, nor do I have to continue paying for a subscription. Since everything is a lot more expensive right now I have to choose more carefully what I want to own. But I have definitely noticed that finding dvd and blu-ray's is so hard which is really a shame. I'm ordering stuff from online since there isn't really many stores around me that have them anymore at all.
You can borrow disks from the library as well!!! Watched Sprited Away for the first time through a blue-ray player
@napiltree5917 that won't help physical media.
@@tonymalagon9644 I disagree, the increase in borrowing and repurposing of physical media such as dvds would tell the government that there’s still avid interest in physical media. It also helps people who can’t afford constantly buying dvds all the time. Why can’t we be flexible with this issue?
Check out your local second hand donation stores if you have any? But the are a couple of sales still going on from a few labels.
*There is still a couple of sales happening right now from a few labels, Physical store sale right now would be Barnes and Noble 50% off of Criterion collection.
happening in Australia too. I can buy dvds and cds from a store called JBHIFI but every other store just replaced their dvd sections with random stuff.
I buy my dvds from thrift stores, buying a random dvd for a dollar and taking it home and watching it is a great experience, even if I didn't like the movie.
Disney has stopped their supply of dvds to Australia so Disney collectors here have to pay an arm and a leg for shipping (shipping to Australia prices are insane)
streaming services in australia have bad selections, HBO doesn't stream here so we have to go through another streaming platform to watch HBO shows
I love going DVD/blueray hunting at flea markets. You can get like 20 movies for $10. I don’t even watch them much, more like collectibles
I thought it was just me! I buy them & never watch them!!!
Millennials and younger gen x ers are pretty much the only generations who grew up with an expectation of owning a movie. For the vast majority of the time when film has been considered an art form, the home video market was either non existent or priced for wholesalers. We were really spoiled in the 2000s. It really makes you appreciate the efforts of specialty theaters, programmers, curators, and writers who have kept the reputation of older films alive.
I view streaming services as the modern day equivalent to cable. There are thousands of made for tv movies that have been lost to time. The ones that are still preserved on CZcams and through secondary markets are because of older fans. The only reason why modern streaming originals can disappear in this day and age is because you have too many things competing for peoples attention.
What I've come to really dislike about streaming services is that they cater to audiences who are fans of IPs and not necessarily fans of film in general. I prefer owning because it gives me the freedom to choose what I want to watch going back decades insted of being limited to a studios catalogue. Yesterdays equivalent would be mindlessly switching the channels until you settle on something to watch.
I've been impressed by the number of titles that have been digitally restored in the last 10 years but there are still too many titles that are still exclusive to DVD and VHS. Part of the problem may not only be the decline of physical media, but consumers and studios not investing enough in VOD, which makes up only a small percentage of digital sales.
This has completely made my week going into the holiday weekend! Glad to see you back on here 😭
the only thing missing from the existence of stores like this imo (and I'm mainly making a comparison to record shops, but maybe something like kim's in nyc) is passionate and knowledgeable employees who can guide you. Browsing to find media online, you're gonna get force fed the same stuff that has been deemed important enough to be remembered by online communities. Tons of great films/records have been forgotten with time because the same classics get pushed to the top of rec lists, and if you're being guided by algorithms you're gonna miss out on it. Of course I miss the aspect of handling the packaging, reading the liner notes etc, but now that stuff is only for collectors and people who want to support the artists. There's lots to hate about streaming services, but we're nearly 2 decades deep into the answer being to pirate everything you want, and buy the stuff that you loved.
That was actually a recurring point that I kept seeing when I would watch news clips of video store owners talking about their shops. They all mentioned how a unique experience is tailored just to browsing these stores is talking to people who can recommend stuff to you. I used to love doing that when I would shop at movie stores in LA, just chatting with the employees about movies on their shelves
I missed your channel so much! Funnily enough I am a Film and Literature student so your videos are hitting the perfect point between my two biggest interests
Love to see you back!!!
it's great to see you again man!
the sheer coincidence of you making this video right after i found out about criterion and the barnes and noble sale. very excited to get more into movies, and hope to see you uploading more. love your videos
I WILL NEVER STOP BUYING PHYSICAL MEDIA. You can't beat the video and audio quality rendered from a physical disc than what you get from streaming services Providers. The downside to streaming movies is the streaming Provider can stop streaming a movie/series before you can finish watching the whole series. Plus, if your internet should crap out or your WiFi signal is weak, your experience will be a bummer. With physical media, I can build my own library and watch any movie WHEN EVER I want. The way streaming services are constantly increasing their costs to stream a movie, I'm predicting we'll see the resurgence of physical media in the future.
😂 Most of what you said is irrelevant. After almost two decades of being a digital subscriber, I can't ever recall not finishing a show before it left the platform. Infact, the platform itself tend to let you know what leaving soon.
Most digital platforms do not have the same content. If they did, then no one'd be subscribing to them.
After almost two decades of being a digital subscriber, my monthly cost has went from $6 to $7 and change. Not much of an increase so stop being dramatic.
With physical media, once you've watched that DVD, it's now decoration. Who cares to watch it again and again? What's the purpose? You already know the story.
With digital subscriptions, I can watch a different movie every day for many many years. Physical media can never equal that level of affordable entertainment. That's why it's quickly losing to digital platforms.
@@AllStarHealer This comment gives the vibe that you are either a hardcore fanboy/average consoomer who is blind and ignorant to all the downs of streaming and the ups of physical media or a paid shill. And i probably bet you are one of those people who supported Xbox going all digital in the future.
@@an4rk135 The fact that you're having issues spelling basic words tells me everything I need to know. You're not intelligent enough. You also didn't even dispute anything I said which proves you're the shill and fanboy here.
@@an4rk135 The fact that you're having issues spelling basic words tells me everything I need to know. You're very much lacking intelligence. You also didn't even dispute anything I said which proves you're the shill and fanboy here.
@@an4rk135 The fact that you're having issues spelling basic words tells me everything I need to know. You also didn't even dispute anything I said which proves your reply is the shill here.
No way you brought your videos back! I finished punpun a few months back and waited to watch your vid on it but I saw you had archived it. I’m glad you’re back and I’m looking forward to seeing your vid on it!
It doesn't surprise me that books remain as popular as they are. Unlike with movies, with books you're constantly engaged with the object itself.
So glad you’re back! Your videos got me to read the count of Monte Cristo lol
Did you enjoy it? I wish I could experience going through it for the first time again
@@colorlesswonderland Yea! it was the longest book I read up to that point, and now im not so intimidated by a book's size
I always thought it was the Count of Monte Crisco.
It's unfortunate, but I'm less worried about physical media as long as you have a local copy, though I guess you could argue that a hard drive full of movies is still physical media. Though I do lose out on the extras that would get included. DVDs also have an estimated life span of around 20-30-ish years, so we are approaching the point where some of the first DVDs will just start to spontaneously fail, so having easy to copy digital files feels good to me. The other thing is, its rare for me to actually watch a movie or show twice, which makes any price for a DVD feel like a waste.
Yayay you’re back!!
Really love this video. I've been wanting to make a video on this topic for a while actually
Dead to the mainstream audience, thriving with the collector's/enthusist market. It's the golden age if you are a collector. Physical media will never die as long the collector and people passionate about it exist. It just won't be what the mainstream audience uses.
So excited you’re back!!!🤎
The design of lampshade in the back looks like it has post-it notes all over it. I like it.
The thumbnail is the perfect representation of the quote from Fight Club about “the stuff you own, ends up owning you”. I think we put too much emphasis on media ownership tbh
OMG. You don’t know how happy I to see you back on CZcams / Booktube. I will continue to fight for physical media until my dying day. (Even to my own detriment.)
Kino Lorber and Shout, along with other boutique companies are doing great work keeping stuff on physical media.
Kino has really been upping their game.
It sucks cuz a lot of older and obscure movies have been at risk of being lost for years now. Like you said it could be streaming, but if the movie is taken off… what then?
Def gonna share this in my monster movie group.
You touched on it and I think it's mostly part of the profit-over-preservation situation across the board. I mainly ponder this from a gamer's point of view, but it's simply not good for business if you're happy with your one copy of a game or a movie; you need to keep coming back for more. Main reason why the corporations rely on our ever-shortening attention span and our collective need to always look for the next thing, rather than being concerned about keeping art alive.
But as you've said, speaking with our wallets and making responsible choices as much as possible may be one best ways of combating this crisis.
Spotted After Hours in the thumbnail! Always cool to see another criterion/physical media collector. Nice to see you’re back! 💕
Thank you!!!
“I just wanted to go out, and meet a girl. And now I have to die for it!”
Some lad used to sell me bootleg DVDs out of his car every Friday
Welcome back!🎉
Interesting video, you made some good points. My thoughts on why the physical music market (including both vinyl AND CDs, by the way) is holding up quite well - someone's favourite music really becomes part of their identity, so they want to own the album and listen to it over and over again. I think for a lot of people, movies have a lower 'repeat value', and they're happy with viewing them only once or twice. Also owning physical music has been mainstream for over 100 years, whereas owning physical movies really only became common in the '90s.
Not only vinyl but cassettes are on the rise. It is such a surprise for me.
Seeing this in my feed was such a pleasant surprise! I missed your vids so much
You're back!!!!!
YOU'RE BACKKKKKKK AND TOO WITH SUCH A BANG BRUH!🤩
There is only 1 mainstream store that sells dvds/blu-rays (and the selection is shrinking) in Australia. I find most of mine at op shops and garage sales because that's the only place.
I’m still hopeful that similar to vinyl, physical movies will have a big resurgence at some point
I can not find a new case for my IPhone 2. I feel you...
Idk man. Nostalgia is a huge trend right now as vinyl, cd and dvd/bluray are making a huge comeback. I work merchandising and we put out and service the new movie releases each week and movies fly off the shelves each week.
Back into the wonderland. Love the podcast.
I've thought about you few days ago. You haven't posted anything for such a long time... And here you post the new video
If you a 90s baby or older you know things come and go and it will be back.
I think it's fascinating to think about how recent of a concept owning and being able to rewatch a copy of a movie or tv show actually is - what like 30-40 years? and only much recently in qualities that are actually comparable to seeing something in a theatre. For most of film history it has existed as something temporary. Movies used to come out for a few weeks, you either saw it or you didn't, and then it was gone. Definitely wouldn't have sat well with my FOMO brain!
welcome back!
The last physical media store in our town closed like years ago. Even before the pandemic.
Moving out of my parents home and then moving again from college dorm to the first house I bought was enough to get me to drop like 90% of my physical media, its insane how heavy a single bookshelf worth of books can be let alone how much space they take up, same for blurays/manga/video games largely
I stopped using all streaming services, except for Night Flight (highly recommend!), and I’ve been relying on second hand blurays/dvds, and buying new remasters of old movies from the boutique labels like the glorious Vinegar Syndrome.
Streaming is censoring, removing episodes and altering previous content for modern taboos. No way I’m paying those maniacs to take old art and alter it at their whim.
Film frauds should watch Wallace and Gromit curse of the wererabbit and howls moving castle and compare who ‘deserved’ the Oscar
Holy shit its you. I was looking everywhere for your ppun pun video cause it got me to read it, and I just couldn't remember your channel name lol. Amazing video as always man👍
Glad to see you
YOU ARE BACK!!!
Netflix already took away Mike Flanagan's Hush and you cannot watch it anywhere else :/
It’s the death of brick & mortar for physical media, but physical media will always exist
With the return of vinyl, we just need to push for the return of VHS or LaserDisc 😉😉
Damn!! He's back!
Wsp colorless wonderland it’s Jack Noah’s friend nice video man
respect man I owe a dvd collection because i love cinema happy summer from Romania
i came to this realization as well when it came to watching movies. If i seen a trailer for a movie i liked i would rent or buy it digitally if i couldn't find it on a streaming service. Now i just buy the physical copy, and funny enough it's the same cost but now i actually own it.
Love scarecrow video. I’m really hoping they pull through. We may not be strong in numbers, but we are a passionate bunch.
My goat is back
THE KING IS BACK
Half Price Books and thrift stores is where I go typically for blu-ray. I haven't been to Scarecrow Video in a year or so and I live next to Seattle, I need to shop there more to give my support.
Return of the king!
the comeback of the year!!!!!
If a streaming service won't release on physical. Just get an empty disk box. Pirate it and print off a picture for it. Simple
The best on-demand media services I have are the ones on my shelf.
HE'S BACK!!!
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Sad to hear scarecrow is going through some rough times. Rented the Higurashi box set there when I couldn't find it anywhere else. Is kind of scary to think that these stories that we care so much about could just disappear. Thanks for the upload!
Must of been a fake death? I’m having a ball this Criterion sale 🤷♂️😎
I had the original Mortal Kombat on vhs if there were streaming services in power back then soccer moms would have banished it to the shadow realm.
Years ago I went towards streaming, and my purchasing rate of dvd Blu-ray’s dropped. I would only buy physical media when I really like the movie, the rest I buy digital download .
Last couple years of favorite movies releases I would purchase on 4k physical even though I didn’t have a player.
Then this year watching CZcamsrs speaking of higher quality over streaming, then I decided to get a 4k player. Oh my! They are not kidding. Evan my Blu-ray’s look better, and believe it or not, so do the regular dvd look better on this player. So anyways going to my thrift store now.
so glad you have summer wars on bluray now thats true taste
Return of the king
Aye glad you're back! what happened to the berserk video?
If I am being honest, I really just wasn't as happy with that video as I wanted to be nor do I feel like I properly did Berserk justice. I went into that video with way too many scattered notes/ideas/topics and I don't feel like it conveyed all that I wanted to. I took down a bunch of videos I made because I wasn't proud of them!
@@colorlesswonderland I understand, I respect it. If its any consolation I still enjoyed them, this is a very genuine channel and thats getting harder to find these days. Keep up the good work!
I know three guys with a Star subscription! They use it to watch sports matches live in HD. I could never but I think that's the point of the service
I'm a lifelong physical media enjoyer and currently don't have any streaming services. I used to, but I realized could easily go a few months months without using any of them and I'd rather save my money. They never had what I was looking for anyway! Plus if they do have something exclusive (like The Bear), I can just get Disney for one month and then leave. I don't want to pay month after month in case I want to stream.
The annoying thing is that where I live there's still one store with more niche movies, but then they charge 53 dollars for like, Eraserhead and stuff like that.
Lately I've been buying a few cd's as well. I would do vinyl, but I know I won't be getting a vinyl player with all the gear that you need.
Also the library has movies! Use the library!
Also I didn't know they won't releasing Killers of the flower moon... yikes.
bring back physical media! i want to start watching some of my favorite tv shows on dvds now 📀
Ive recently been getting into cd's, they are very fun to collect and I like using my cd player
Criterion got me interested in collecting all-around physical media, from movies to CDs to books (though I've always been collecting books because used books were and still are so darn cheap). I'm hoping we get a Criterion release of I'm Thinking of Ending Things in the near future, doesn't seem like an impossibility considering we have a Criterion Irishman release
You're hereeee 🎉🎉🎉
When streaming got popular (in Germany) i was a huge Fan and never watched DVDs anymore (or listened to CDs). But a while ago i got myself a blu ray Player again and got my DVDs back out (which i thankfully did Not get rid of, only moved them into an Album instead of their cases). Cause I am so annoyed by the development of streaming Services. Cancelled them one by one when they increased prices or tried to get me into their plan with ads. I the future i will just get subscriptions month my month on one service that has what i want to watch an that time and keep my favorites as DVDs Plan ob getting my CDs out again as well, though i think i got rid of way more than my DVDs unfortunately.
just today was watching a movie on dvd and got sad because now most people don’t use dvd’s. and i get mine for 20 cents. 20 cents in this economy is equal to zero. this means that great physical copies of great movies are not needed anymore
Killers of the Flower Moon has a 4k Blu ray released in Italy. A lot of collector like myself import movies from other countries. I myself have imported over 50 movies from the U.K., and 2 from Italy because the rights around those movies are different in other countries. 4k is region pfee (for the most part) so if you get the 4k then you have nothing to worry about. For the movies that aren't import a region B (europe, U.K, & Australia) player on Amazon from England, France, or Italy and your able get around any region locked discs.
Vinyl made a comeback. VHS is making a comeback. I think we will be fine as streaming prices go up and will continue to.
Physical media is not dying but going into hibernation, because if the demand comes back like how LP is trending again, the sale of physical media will. What bothers me more is the archival preservation of physical media. I don't know if during your research you came across the articles regarding media archival tools that are becoming obsolete due to upgrades and/or technological advances that is making it difficult and costly to every time have to re-archive every media due to the lack of long term backward compatibility, So studio's start making cuts to which movies are being stored. Causing some movies to truly become obsolete. Truly gone forever.
I would've never stumbled upon this topic. Great video!