They need wider tires with lower pressures up front, and a tighter steering ratio (input:output) from zero he has to turn the wheel halfway before anything happens, along with longer pedal travel on throttle
Looking awesome! Just add 1-4 degrees negative camber to front to get rid of that excessive understeering. 5cm stretch and softer front suspension settings would also help to get some weight to those front tires..
Crosskart are the exception to the rule. The hairpins are so tight opposite turning and rotating with the throttle is the fastest. On any high speed track on asphalt the opposite is true.
@@WynnofThule That's because of the solid axle. Sort of like on a sport quad or sprint car, there's no differential, so sliding is the best way around a corner. It's also way more fun!
@@WynnofThule That's cool man, what class do you run? Always wanted to try a shifter out. Karts are unique because there isnt any suspension, so the entire frame flexes, lifting the inside. Crosskarts and quads do have suspension, so while the inside doesn't "lift", the weight is still transferred off of it.
I suggest using Turf Tamer tires on the rear, that do great on pavement and loose dirt/gravel , They also SQEEL like a mutha during burnouts, FUN! FUN!
Try a wider tire and rim. Should help the traction/ understeering. Also try a weighted steel plate in the front. Bolt it underneath the car in a way you can move it back and forth to find the best spot to help the weight distribution.
I use to own a 738 lbs turbo gsx1100f 300 hp sand car w/30” paddles. 95 mph up the face of sand mtn in UT. It was terrifyingly fast. A cross kart would be epic with a built N/A 250hp busa motor, a little more wheel travel and a slightly larger tire.
It's best to stay in the lowest gear possible to keep the motor in high revs and out of the mid range torque through the corners and change up the gear as you exit the corner and that will prevent too much oversteer which will increase your cornering speed.
That first cart is what's known as effed up on both ends! It's wicked loose in the damn straight away and really shows its ass in the corners. Now here's the really fun part kids, when he unloads it in a corner, it dumps all of the weight onto the front end and develops the push from hell! Just wow! You can hear his nervous laughter after he narrowly misses face planting the guard rail. I mean he came to a complete stop it shook him up so bad! That suspension needs to retake geometry class because what ever equation they're using is completely fooked!
Noticing on your Crosskart, the rear sprocket is huge, yet you have small wheels on it, so it is geared high, yet the speed is limited to the wheel size. Mine is the opposite, geared low with big wheels. But yours seems to be designed for speed and not difficult offroad use, mine is designed for mountain roads. This is what I really like about these builds, is you build it for your needs, as opposed to trying to buy what you think will work best for you.
nice crosskarts, looks like you need to work on your roll centers(maybe lower them) and different length and not parallel control arm design, as you can not get full tyre contact patches while cornering... (more camber acceleration would do the job) And the front uprights or arms have problems 4:39 either something is really loose, or you need much more camber acceleration maybe some caster. Great crosskarts anyway, I wish I built one someday...
Might want to steer that thing with both hands, since there is maybe one or two gearchanges during the whole lap. Also helps to not overdo steering inputs that way.
overdo steering inputs is a massive under statement, i wanted to scream STOP TURNING THE GD WHEEL ALREADY. like holy crap your going straight leave the damn wheel alone
Would you lower the rear upper inboard mounting point by 1/2-1 inch ? or something else ? The arms look parallel or divergent rather than forming an imaginery crossing.
Your cars steering is off because the front wheel Ackerman looks to be backwards I could be wrong though. I learned this in the process of building my kart I used ATV A arms and spindles
She looks like she needs a Camber kit 1 for maximum Angle for sick drifts & also proper tow so u can get into the turns and not have to worry about the oversteer and understeer as bad I would assume just physics and many different setups of other wicked rides such as outlaw sprint cars, drift cars vehicles of the crazy over HP nature I belive once u get that dialed in just Right that's gonna be one of the coolest all around ass puckering RIP ROARING RIDE u have ever built but she is super wicked looking now video never does justace like driveing or being their in person 2 see the Ripp session 👍👍 🤘
This thing is my favorite thing on four wheels if a company doesn't make street legal versions of these things it'll be a travesty to humanity. At least with lower power of course.
In some video, you should do a race with a crosskart and a bike. But maybe with a penalty for the bike beacuase, I think it would be to op. Maybe just see what the difference are between a bike and a crosskart.
Had to put larger wheels in the back for sliding and traction and it's nice to have a turbo but your prototype is far too long in the race it is eating
4:54 .. You can see your right wheel looks like it is flexing a little farther than it should there. Maybe you should build some mechanical stops to keep it from turning completely flat like that.. I'm assuming you drove this trace a few times to get a feel for it.. If I would have started this track as fast as you did, I'd be terrified.. ahahah.... It looks very sketchy... for a roll over.. But I guess it stays down somehow.
@@danielssonsgarage .. Flat" ... meaning that right wheel was turned to a complete 90 degrees of the forward motion of the kart... That's why it slid and he had to brake, because he was gonna ram the rail if he didn't.. Pretty scary.. It's only lightly built, and he was pushing it's limits.
@@calholli I think you are exaggerating a bit. Also the left wheel seems to be turning the as much on the counter steer right after that. I don't know if it is the camera angle but it does look like outer wheel turns more than the inner while normally on cars it is the other way around.
@@zabnat You can put little stops on them so that they will only go so far... that way they can always have at least a slight turning arch... When they are full 90 degrees it's just not gonna work in that moment.. The wheel doesn't roll that direction. :)
@@calholli Why limit the capabilities of the vehicle when you can just learn to drive? ;) (also it was just the camera angle, the wheels turn as they are supposed to)
Try to do Less darting with the steering wheel pal try holding in toward lock an do ur steering with ur rear wheels trew throttle control get in to inside apex at the turn early and half power with small opposite lock with gradually increased power in conjunction with aducate increasing op lock in smooth manner no need for so much over corrections of ur steering . If u get both steering anx trottle just right simultaneously you'll simply start to flow from turn to turn much faster and in more control ,as less input to the steering at speed = more control try using a rally line an not a racing line too, which is all about approach and exit the strangest line trew any following corner wer possible ,start with using 1 gear higher than normal in corners but entering slightly quicker with steady power put down an synchronized with ur opposite lock exits, watch ur results in a day of trying this mate ,you can thank me later ,😊
YE its as obvious as the way a gay man talks 😅, , theres alot of panicky driver over input in newby followed by been pointed in the opposite direction ,where an experienced guy will be drifting ,texting , an watching out for the🐷🐖 effortlessly and all at once , its called skill I heard ,😂😂
This is like the ultimate 4 wheeler for having fun!
JuhisRacing the build quality on the cross carts is amateur. Look at the drakart Superlite
It is!
They seem to go from massive understeer to massive oversteer in a split second, lol.
Ya working a lot
Judge jimbo Browntown yeah, I reckon you'd feel it after a few laps!
They definitly do on Dirt Rally 2.0!
You mean: "Sounds exciting."
They need wider tires with lower pressures up front, and a tighter steering ratio (input:output) from zero he has to turn the wheel halfway before anything happens, along with longer pedal travel on throttle
Would been nice to see the other driver take laps with turbokart
Looking awesome! Just add 1-4 degrees negative camber to front to get rid of that excessive understeering.
5cm stretch and softer front suspension settings would also help to get some weight to those front tires..
have a look at 4.56-4.57 it looks like theres some flex in the steering somwhere, or is that normal on these things?
You know you’re going fast when most of the time the steering wheel is turned opposite of the way you are turning 😂
Crosskart are the exception to the rule. The hairpins are so tight opposite turning and rotating with the throttle is the fastest. On any high speed track on asphalt the opposite is true.
@@WynnofThule That's because of the solid axle. Sort of like on a sport quad or sprint car, there's no differential, so sliding is the best way around a corner. It's also way more fun!
@@BunkerBlog I do sprint karts. Lifting the inside is the name of the game.
@@WynnofThule That's cool man, what class do you run? Always wanted to try a shifter out. Karts are unique because there isnt any suspension, so the entire frame flexes, lifting the inside. Crosskarts and quads do have suspension, so while the inside doesn't "lift", the weight is still transferred off of it.
@@BunkerBlog I do Junior, X30 and rotax.
The most pure kind of racing that there is!
Wow three hundred horses sounds just about right for the amount of fun we mean to achieve 😀 witch is Tons
Sweet! Crosscart gets some tracktime. But yeah,.. that 750 has much thicker, "safer" looking pipes.
That looks like a ton of fun!
Loved the Kimi reference LMAO !
😱😍 I LOVE the front mud guards move with the wheels on the 750😍😱😍😍😍👍👍👍👍
"This has been a great day: Nothing is broken..." 😂
are there any blueprints etc for these frames?
Those things rip like crazy....😳😍👍👌
Great driving. Looks fun.
Hei. Hieno video. Näetkö crosskartin rungon koon? Haluan kokoontua.
It's cool to see where the tires are biting in on the asphalt after coming off the dirt.
Subbed. Just found you guys. Awesome.
well done, looks good runs awesome.
Suspension & weight balancing makes all the difference.
“It not Toyota so it F@@in sucks” lmao had me rolling
Looks so fun I’m jealous
The 750 looks like so much fun - wow.
I suggest using Turf Tamer tires on the rear, that do great on pavement and loose dirt/gravel , They also SQEEL like a mutha during burnouts, FUN! FUN!
I wanna know how you got your gear indicator to stay working. Mime worked for 5 minutes then looses track of the gears
AWESOME! The 750 was also "more aerodynamic" so to me, they are about equal!
Try a wider tire and rim. Should help the traction/ understeering. Also try a weighted steel plate in the front. Bolt it underneath the car in a way you can move it back and forth to find the best spot to help the weight distribution.
Are Thoes dirt bike front forks for the rear suspension?? If not I just have myself an idea 💡
Nice video, put anti-lag on the turbo kart and that time should come down. Just listening to the engines you know they are built different
Looks fun!
I use to own a 738 lbs turbo gsx1100f 300 hp sand car w/30” paddles. 95 mph up the face of sand mtn in UT. It was terrifyingly fast.
A cross kart would be epic with a built N/A 250hp busa motor, a little more wheel travel and a slightly larger tire.
that VF1 kart looks so clean
It's a VF1, the 750 then I was just looking for this in comments.
Awesome!!
It's best to stay in the lowest gear possible to keep the motor in high revs and out of the mid range torque through the corners and change up the gear as you exit the corner and that will prevent too much oversteer which will increase your cornering speed.
That first cart is what's known as effed up on both ends! It's wicked loose in the damn straight away and really shows its ass in the corners. Now here's the really fun part kids, when he unloads it in a corner, it dumps all of the weight onto the front end and develops the push from hell! Just wow! You can hear his nervous laughter after he narrowly misses face planting the guard rail. I mean he came to a complete stop it shook him up so bad! That suspension needs to retake geometry class because what ever equation they're using is completely fooked!
Noticing on your Crosskart, the rear sprocket is huge, yet you have small wheels on it, so it is geared high, yet the speed is limited to the wheel size. Mine is the opposite, geared low with big wheels. But yours seems to be designed for speed and not difficult offroad use, mine is designed for mountain roads. This is what I really like about these builds, is you build it for your needs, as opposed to trying to buy what you think will work best for you.
The turbo crosskart need larger tyres, too much torque and power. Answome video guys!
Nytte oot oikeilla jälillä juuu
Toyota👌🏻😘❤❤👌🏻👍🏻
I saw at least 260+ km/h on the speedo nice hahahaha ;). Very cool machine!
MrTe450 wheelspin
It's also geared much lower than the bike. So speedo can say 260, i bet it much lower actual speed. It still is a lot of wheel spin tho😁
It is obvious that this speedo is not accurate anymore guys haha
70mph max in this video.
New Sub! Fun stuff guys thanks!
I was thinking WTF is those single numbers on top off the dash on the left LOL Very cool tells ya what gear your in 🤣😂😁 Ive never seen that before
What's the rear sprocket from on the turbo kart?
My good god! Take my money where can I find one in Canada!! 🤤🤤🤤🤤
nice crosskarts, looks like you need to work on your roll centers(maybe lower them) and different length and not parallel control arm design, as you can not get full tyre contact patches while cornering... (more camber acceleration would do the job) And the front uprights or arms have problems 4:39 either something is really loose, or you need much more camber acceleration maybe some caster. Great crosskarts anyway, I wish I built one someday...
I think the speedometer needs calibrating :)
Oisko mitenkää mahollist järkätä polttarit nii et ainakin polttarisankari pääsis ajaan jotaki noist teidä crosskarteist?
Ota fbs yhteyttä niin saattaa vastata nopeemmin
Wow, you got to be on that steering wheel a the time!
Man you need a sway bar on that for sure
How has nobody asked about the summer moped T-shirt??? How do I get one???
Check the description. It will take u to their website
Look`s like fun👍
Might want to steer that thing with both hands, since there is maybe one or two gearchanges during the whole lap. Also helps to not overdo steering inputs that way.
overdo steering inputs is a massive under statement, i wanted to scream STOP TURNING THE GD WHEEL ALREADY. like holy crap your going straight leave the damn wheel alone
Rear roll center is too high on your turbo kart, lower it and stiffer the shocks to balance.
Would you lower the rear upper inboard mounting point by 1/2-1 inch ? or something else ? The arms look parallel or divergent rather than forming an imaginery crossing.
@@BeamRider100 hard to tell from a video, i'd do it simple way first, taller tyres, shorter shocks, same ride height, test from there.
What size is rear sprocket?
You guys need more rubber on those, you could do some epic Sprint car wheelies!
ターボが良かったのでしょうか？
Makes me wanna play Mario kart.
Your cars steering is off because the front wheel Ackerman looks to be backwards I could be wrong though. I learned this in the process of building my kart I used ATV A arms and spindles
I need that 750 in my life.
Build it
Looks brutal
2 second difference in 30 seconds is astronomical
Decent 👍
You have a crosskart speedcar to go by why not build you a frame just like it and put your engine in it ?
You can get wicked audio without wind noise
Look like you need a faster steering ratio in the busa kart. A lot more direction change per input on the other kart.
I want that shirt !
She looks like she needs a Camber kit 1 for maximum Angle for sick drifts & also proper tow so u can get into the turns and not have to worry about the oversteer and understeer as bad I would assume just physics and many different setups of other wicked rides such as outlaw sprint cars, drift cars vehicles of the crazy over HP nature I belive once u get that dialed in just Right that's gonna be one of the coolest all around ass puckering RIP ROARING RIDE u have ever built but she is super wicked looking now video never does justace like driveing or being their in person 2 see the Ripp session 👍👍 🤘
1:25 Sounds like Group B
13:44 sounds like it too. lol
steering wheel!!! heey!!! kimi the boss!!!
amazing isnt it. im near 40 and even worse now for speed thani ever was, now i can afford to do the things i dreamed of as a youth.
I’m the same. 😁
Same lol
This is just orgazm to my ears. I would SO use it as a drift kart
3:48 vetarin sisempi suojakumi kannattais vaihtaa :)
interesting video :)
Onk kukaa suomalainen kattomassa?
The steering ratio might seem slow but I think it's because he's trying to correct wheel spin.
This thing is my favorite thing on four wheels if a company doesn't make street legal versions of these things it'll be a travesty to humanity. At least with lower power of course.
In some video, you should do a race with a crosskart and a bike. But maybe with a penalty for the bike beacuase, I think it would be to op. Maybe just see what the difference are between a bike and a crosskart.
On a track bike is slower than a car
Good morning, do you need a video editor?
Epic
Had to put larger wheels in the back for sliding and traction and it's nice to have a turbo but your prototype is far too long in the race it is eating
LFa what? 🤔
Just one hand steering on this thing. Good
Put the 750's wheels and tires on the 'busa kart.
i would aim for better handeling and suspension! if you manage to get that hp down to the ground, you will be faster, and thats a fact.
Maybe soften up the front a touch.
To make it an actual test the pro should have also driven the hyabusa.
Särkikangas!!!! :D
4:54 .. You can see your right wheel looks like it is flexing a little farther than it should there. Maybe you should build some mechanical stops to keep it from turning completely flat like that.. I'm assuming you drove this trace a few times to get a feel for it.. If I would have started this track as fast as you did, I'd be terrified.. ahahah.... It looks very sketchy... for a roll over.. But I guess it stays down somehow.
Flat? I think you get fooled by the wide angle
@@danielssonsgarage .. Flat" ... meaning that right wheel was turned to a complete 90 degrees of the forward motion of the kart... That's why it slid and he had to brake, because he was gonna ram the rail if he didn't.. Pretty scary.. It's only lightly built, and he was pushing it's limits.
@@calholli I think you are exaggerating a bit. Also the left wheel seems to be turning the as much on the counter steer right after that. I don't know if it is the camera angle but it does look like outer wheel turns more than the inner while normally on cars it is the other way around.
@@zabnat You can put little stops on them so that they will only go so far... that way they can always have at least a slight turning arch... When they are full 90 degrees it's just not gonna work in that moment.. The wheel doesn't roll that direction. :)
@@calholli Why limit the capabilities of the vehicle when you can just learn to drive? ;) (also it was just the camera angle, the wheels turn as they are supposed to)
Now we need to know which is the fastest on gravel, Can- Am Maveric X3 Turbo, Crosskart or Rallycross Supercar.
I've got a Rotax kart.. But I'd rather a cross kart. Same driving... Violent experience with a grin.
👌
Your crosscart looks mutch better
put some race tires on it . hoosier flat track 18x 10-10 was a game changer on my crosscart
You must revise rear and front geometry and camber
Try to do Less darting with the steering wheel pal try holding in toward lock an do ur steering with ur rear wheels trew throttle control get in to inside apex at the turn early and half power with small opposite lock with gradually increased power in conjunction with aducate increasing op lock in smooth manner no need for so much over corrections of ur steering . If u get both steering anx trottle just right simultaneously you'll simply start to flow from turn to turn much faster and in more control ,as less input to the steering at speed = more control try using a rally line an not a racing line too, which is all about approach and exit the strangest line trew any following corner wer possible ,start with using 1 gear higher than normal in corners but entering slightly quicker with steady power put down an synchronized with ur opposite lock exits, watch ur results in a day of trying this mate ,you can thank me later ,😊
I couldn't agree more. You can really tell an experienced drifter over a noob just by listening to the engine and watching their hands on the wheel.
YE its as obvious as the way a gay man talks 😅, , theres alot of panicky driver over input in newby followed by been pointed in the opposite direction ,where an experienced guy will be drifting ,texting , an watching out for the🐷🐖 effortlessly and all at once , its called skill I heard ,😂😂
Sounds just like kimi. My steering wheel
Kimi pole!! RAIKKONEN!! RAIKKONEN!!
You guys are Finnish yes?
You need to add paddle shifters to it
Turbo crosscart needs bit stiffer suspension
Which country is better/ more beautiful to ride enduro, Finnland 🇫🇮 or Sweden 🇸🇪?
Finland👍🇫🇮
Finland🇫🇮
Finland🇫🇮
Sweden
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Put ski`s instead of front tires and tracks in the rear on the turbo cart!