Racing Versus Cruising Sailors
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2022
- Cruising sailors tend to prefer things like swimming from their boat;
Racing sailors prefer the water on top of their boat instead;
They will spend as much money on sails as their boat is worth;
They will sail so close together you could jump to the next boat;
They will remove their dodger so they can fully enjoy all that water on top of their boat;
They will crawl onto a pitching foredeck to lash down a sail because they don’t have a furler;
They will climb onto the boom to install a reef line so they don’t have to slow the boat down;
They will fly a spinnaker in 20 knots of wind or more;
They won’t even bother taking down their own spinnaker, and will just let God do it;
And they will do all of this whether it’s day or night, regardless of whether they can see or not;
All for getting their boat’s name engraved on some stupid trophy, and getting some yellow flags to boast about their accomplishments, and for some unforgettable moments with friends - priceless!!!
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Loved this one. Yep. Totally agree. Cruisers vs. racers. Racers vs. cruisers... but when a power boater gets anywhere near the debate--sailboats unite!
Exactly - unite against those stink pots!!!
". . .they fly the spinnaker in 20 knots of wind . . ."
Correction: ** 40 knots of wind **
LOL yes just getting started in 20!!!
@@SailingTipsCa Yes, 20n is tame. 40n with spinnaker is a real adrenaline rush.
Inside every real sailor cruising around there's a racer
LOL - I totally agree! The only people who really buy into the “I don’t care about that last 0.25 knot” are the slow boat manufacturers trying to rationalize their products. That’s still 2.5 nautical miles over 10 hours, or possibly the difference between getting to your anchorage during daylight or in the pitch black!
@@SailingTipsCa or being trapped in the bad weather or skimming around it
Two cruisers on the same tack on the bay , nobody around,
(Captain)
Quietly………..
“Pull in the main a little “
😂😂
Yep. Once in awhile I get to match my little boat against this rich dudes 50 ft racing boat.
The difference between cruisers and racers is a 60 lb. anchor and 300 ft. Of chain.
Yes that’s another really good one!!!
And wife !
Put it up and let God take it down...
Exactly! One of my most memorable "God decides" moments was flying the symmetric S4 in a building breeze on my heavy monohull. We were doing 10-12 knots steady through the water, and the wind indicator read 25 from dead astern (i.e. the true wind was over 30). We had to sail slightly by the lee for about half a mile to clear Race Rocks. It was also in the middle of the night so we felt it was too dangerous to gybe, and of course the boat started to death roll. The oscillations got bigger and bigger until the helmsperson had the rudder all the way over to the lock and said "That's all there is boys!!!" as the mast plummeted towards the water. We braced for a massive wipeout, but somehow the rudder didn't stall, the boat stood up, and we were able to head up slightly as we passed Race Rocks. Thankfully God decided not to take our spinnaker down at that point!!!
@@SailingTipsCa damn that sounds insane, must have seen been scary at the time.
@@murderduck2246Yes the boat was vibrating and felt like it was going to explode! Glad it all worked out!
Even two cruising boats will race. Cruised for almost 10 years.
You’re absolutely right!!!
Forgot one item for weather. It is just not the best day to sail so it's a good day to race. The bob and bake is a race favorite. A race boat will drift in 95° sunshine for an hour barely making way praying for a wisp of wind. The flies love the human banquet. After all, the humans need to sit still because weight and balance are everything in light air. You kind of had coverage of it's blowing snot sideways so let's put up more sail. Loved "God will help us get it down".
That’s a great suggestion - important to have food that people can easily eat while sitting on the rail or wherever required for optimum weight placement!
Dodger!? I don't even know her!
I know - who’s that?!?!?
Lol....that pretty much sums up my 40+ years of racing....with some cruising thrown in for good measure!!! Can relate to all of it!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Glad I’m not alone!!!
Damnit, now I want one of those stupid yellow flags.
LOL probably easiest to join a boat that’s already part way there!
Just let God take down the spinnaker 😂😅
LOL yes and it has happened a few times!!!
I’m a cruiser, with cruiser friends and I’m dying to race, as I have friends who have already attended a few races as crew and won. Frankly, I’m finding most of the local cruisers I encounter in my area don’t know their rudder from their keel, and I’m starting to get desperate for more experience/skills when it comes to sailing. I’m a strong believer there’s always something new to learn, and I definitely have plenty to learn when it comes to racing. I’ve singlehanded a few boats with friends onboard just watching and had them keeled over going fast as hell while steering with a tiller.
I’m ready for a challenge, and I miss the adrenaline anyways.
Crewing on other racing boats is one of the best ways to learn - then you can go back to your own boat and apply what you’ve learned!!!
I'd love to be right in between the two types. Cruising, and making good time haha.
That’s a good place to be!!!
Yep, all day long ❤
Some say everybody becomes a racer when there’s another sailing boat nearby…
If there's another boat, going my way...race on.
Yup - just need two boats!!!
Nice... Very nice.
That was a pretty memorable day!
100% accurate
😂😂😂😂 absolutely great post!
Glad you enjoyed it!!! Thanks for watching!
Nailed it!
LOL - thanks!!!
The difference is all that yelling
LOL - you mean spouses yelling at each other while cruising? ;-)
STARBOARD!!
@@Eldoguoe Interesting there is also a plastic product called Starboard that is frequently used on boats!
@@SailingTipsCa when you start race, you have priority on starboard but some boat try to cut your trajectory so you shoot : STARBOARD !!
@@Eldoguoe Yes you’re right! I just think it’s interesting that the term can actually be ambiguous!
I raced to learn to sail better; then I crewed as a favor and that 15 minutes of blissful offshore sunrise. But the goal has always been a secluded anchorage and a deck chair.
Racing is a great way to learn for all sailors - you can get to the secluded anchorage faster and get the best spot!
They will just let God do it 😂😂😂
Yes it has happened a few times!
They Get Close to Each Other, to Steal Their Wind. ;)
Exactly - you understand racing sailors very well!
Lol personally a two man race in the Great Lakes is awesome even if you don’t win going 15 knots in a race cruising bout is so much fun! 10 foot bulb keels rule on a 30 foot boat tillers rule to! Lol
LOL we were cruising very recently and another cruising boat pulled out all the stops so we wouldn’t overtake them!
Thanks
Welcome!
I want to be a racing sailor when I’m older
It can be less comfortable than being a cruising sailor so many people go the other way as they get older!
lol my grandpa and dad and me do both
Nice you can spend time with them that way!
I just came here to find out who gets the red Bikini Girl at the start of the vid...
LOL - I guess I'm the lucky guy - it's my wife!!!
I'm petrified to put my spinnaker up cus if it fails it goes under your boat and could damage it ALOT
Spinnakers definitely require respect, and you definitely don’t want them to fall in the water if at all possible!!! Been there done that…
I wanna cruise but I race dinghies
That’s the best way to learn!!!
Haha
Glad you liked it - I had fun making it!!!
They will not keel the regardless of the improvement in speed and rudder control.
Sails they never have lateral ft resistance ahead of the sail effort.
@@markcampbell7577 I’m not quite following - can you explain further?
@@SailingTipsCa They will not keel the headsails and mast regardless of the improvement in speed and rudder control. If the mast is keeled and the headsails are keeled academic stem to stern the boat does not have to heel The boat can sail top speed without heeling.. The deepest point of the hull should be the stem between the mast and forestay and have lateral resistance that is related to the sail area. A headsail that is two booms forward would have three times as much lateral resistance as the mast at the mast. On keel.
Cruisers sail around the world. Racers sail around a buoy. Cruisers take pleasure in adventure, are pragmatic and then they have a beer and enjoy life. Racers take everyday stress life with them to the sea. Cruisers smile to you and are very helpful. Racers are arrogant bullies when they sail in tight waters with other boaters. I would trust a cruiser any day before I trust a racer including skills. Cruiser’s are often very experienced and have a healthy respect for the force of nature. Racers are like crow’s, they do anything for a shiny object and they are proud of it.
Frank, tell me what you really think about racers LOL!!! Actually I think both camps are filled with all kinds of people, with all kinds of goals, skills, and objectives. Half the racers I know have raced 2,000+ NM to Hawaii, or 650+ NM around Vancouver Island or to Ketchikan in the R2AK, and half the cruisers I know don't dare set foot on the West Coast of Vancouver Island. There's also a local boat crewed by a combination of racers and cruisers navigating the Northwest Passage at this very moment, so your characterization of racers staying in protected waters and cruisers being skilled adventurers doesn't necessarily play out in my world. I also know lots of racers who have used incredible seamanship to rescue other boaters. Unfortunately some racers are also arrogant bullies, which is unfortunate and gives everybody a bad name!!!
@@SailingTipsCa off course your right. I was following up on the theme of this video and pushing it further. There are some really skilled and nice racers out there. :) Likewise there are some really skilled cruisers too. Exploring is what I enjoy and personally I don’t see the point of sailing around a buoy with other stressed people. God bless.
@@Frank-E Still lots of opportunities to draw fun tongue-in-cheek comparisons!!! Thanks for watching!!!
Yup.