Just another scenario I thought I'd share... We got in a Fiat with the Multiair engine and it didn't have any compression. We bought it from auction and it had been sitting for a while. We tried the oil in the check valve process many times and couldn't get it to work so as a last resort we tried compressed air straight into the check valve while cranking. It worked! Runs great now.
As insane as this sounded, your Fiat was doing the exact same thing as my wife's. Gave this a shot and, sure enough, it finally came to life. Thank you so much!
I was able to get my 2013 500 started with the video and reading the comments i pulled the fuel pump fuse tried to start it a few times then put the fuse back in and it started without the risk of breaking the lil ball off in the brick. You are the best thanks
Dude you saved my life!! I was already ordering a compression test kit, spark plugs and injectors coils! 🤟🏾 Your awesome for the quick tip and guide! Started after the third attempt.
Hi! It just happened to my Fiat 500. The same circumstance and symptoms. I also thought it was the timming belt... thank god it was not 🙏. Thanks for this great video.
Freakin A MAN!! You’re too awesome for this. I’m going to try this out when I get home. Mine had been sitting for months and I thought I was going to have to replace the whole engine. Then someone told me the crankshaft position sensor needs to be replaced. I’ll definitely try your method out first and go from there. I have a funny feeling that it’s gonna work!
Got back from a 4 week vacation and the 2018 Fiat 500 C lounge no worky. Being in Arizona the heat can be a real battery killer. Tried charging battery but seemed okay. Did voltage check on battery, seemed okay although cranking voltage dropped to ~7 amps. Last minute thought was check for similar issue on CZcams and here we are. Your situation mirrored mine. Even same color vehicle but the 57 vintage style. Having the same Multi-air engine, the stated location for the bleed point was used while my assistant wife hit the ignition. Took about 4 attempts but when oil shot out of the oil filling port I knew we were getting somewhere. Took another 2 attempts but definitely could tell something was happening. Sure enough, baby Stella came back to life from the brink of utter financial car repairs. Thanks a bunch. I can be your 19th subscriber.
You're welcome! I knew I only had one chance to film this and get it right, too bad for the wind noise I didn't find out until later, but it was good enough! I have since bought a mic muff for my camera.
THANK YOU!!! so much. I just tried this after being on vacation for 12 weeks and it WORKED!!! No major car repair bills for me. You are so awesome for sharing this.
THANK YOU,THANK YOU! My 2012 Fiat pop did this about one month ago as it is now garaged and not used much and besides I prefer bicycles. Luckily the mechanic I use lives down hill from me, so I coasted down and dropped it off. They replaced the crankshaft sensor to the tune of $185. Drove car home and it sat for about 2-3 weeks before I tried to start it again. No dice. Coasted it back down to mechanic. This time, he told me not to let it sit and explained what was happening as you said. He of course did NOT show me how simple it is to get it going again! Had been running it once a week and today it did the same thing! Undaunted I searched the web and found your video. IT WORKED! NO MORE COASTING TO MECHANIC! Thanks again.
This video was very helpful in helping me identify the issue. However, I did not have a helping hand, so I used the other method. I pulled the F21 (fuse #8), cranked the motor over 2 times for about 15 seconds, on the 3rd crank the compression came back. I put the fuse back in, cranked the motor, and she fired right up. Thank you so much for the help!!!!
Thank you so much for this video! We couldn’t figure out what was wrong with my daughter’s 500. Took a few minutes, and made a mess but it is up and running again!
look at it this way it's a quirk and a anti theft device ( bleeding down all of the lifter's ) add in a manual transmission and most millennial's and gen-Z's wouldn't steel it lolz 😂 even i didn't know anything about this so id though it was junkyard time lol and im a little bit more savy under the hood of a car
It worked!! My Fiat 500L had been sitting for a while. We tried this and it really worked. We had to charge the battery first. After that we tried maybe 3 times and was about to give up then I noticed a little oil in the well and tried one more time. It worked. Thank you for sharing.
@@shanesgettinghandy Guess what? Just had to do it again this year since I don't drive that often. This is so easy to do and I wasn't worrying like last time. Thanks so much!!!
Good tip! I've seen other videos that basically explain the issue is lost oil pressure in the intake valve train but not how you resolved it with that secret little plunger! They were getting low oil pressure related engine codes but it was basically the same issue. Car stood a long time, oil drains out the multi air unit and won't operate the intake valves. My Fiat Panda has the 0 9 twinair engine, same principal but only 2 cylinders. I'll have a look for that plunger! 😎👍😁
@@shanesgettinghandy Will have a look tomorrow! I suspect it will be the same, as the twinair engine uses the same process to control the intake valves. Is it possible to operate the plunger with the dip stick?
@@cliotec Not sure, haven't tried it but when you look down the oil filler there is definitely something like the top of a plunger and the dipstick is shaped like it could operate it. Wouldn't surprise me if it has the same setup as it will have the same issue if left stood for some time.👍😎
I been trying to start my 2012 fiat all day since it's been sitting for 9 months, even had to buy new battery and charger since I killed the new battery after cranking and cranking. It's too late to try this now but first thing tomorrow I'm gonna give this a try and if it works I will come back and leave a comment update. I'm almost 100 percent sure this is gonna be the fix i was looking for. Thanks for posting this.
Well I gave this a shot thinking it was going to be the quick easy fix and I could get it to work. But alot of you tubing and diy work and I did manage to get my 2013 fiat running and driving again. It's been 3 years since I actually drove it. Forgot what a fun little car it is to drive. By the way, when you pressed on that tiny ball bearing down in there could you feel it depressing? I couldn't feel any movement in mine using a screwdriver like you did. I even tried a metal cost hanger since it seemed to fit better but still nothing. Im not really sure if pressing on this actually does anything at all on my car but it looks exactly the same.
@@mpowersmedia3219 can you put the links to what you did my 2013 is having the same issues and the screw driver didn't work but i was really hopeful!!!
The intake valves on "Multiair" engines are basically hydraulically actuated. This pressure comes from engine oil stored in the "Multiair brick". The "brick" has small, small holes in the bottom that allow the oil to drain back to the sump, although at quite a slow rate. It's fed oil from the engine through the top of the "brick." It does this so the "brick" receives clean, recirculated oil from the engine. It just doesn't circulate NEAR as much as the the rest of the engine.
I didn't know this method but on a Twinair if you disconnect the fuel injectors and coil packs then crank the starter for a couple of seconds then pause a few times it will build up oil pressure back up and it will start.
Hi, I hope you can help me, I have a similar problem with a MiTo, I left it stopped for more than a month and makes the same sound as your Fiat when you want to start it. Can I do the same procedure with my car?
Well, let me tell my story before thanking you for your video. I kept my late Father's (90yrs)2012 Yellow 500 for sentimental reasons. I don't have it licenced, but it sits during the warm months on the driveway as a reminder of his warm spirit. In the winter, I store it close by in the parking garage of a condo. Well, its time to remove the car and bring it home as they will clean the garage for the season and every car has to be out! To my dismay after putting the batt back in the car cranked and no start...................shoot!! what to do? I thought full pump? I dont think i heard it prime when i turned the key?! Well, now I need to get a tow? not out of the garage, truck wont fit me thinks......I will have to tow with car out to street, then home by a tow truck.!! shoot! what a hassle! Let me check the interweb?! So I come across your video.............seems like a bunch of malarkey to be honest........screwdriver in the oil fill ...........good one?? What is to lose? splash of oil on the safety glasses? ok i will try? I'm desperate. Sure enough, although not the right hole at first(insert joke here)I managed with the help of a friend to START it up!!!! What a F ing relief!!! thank you Brother, life saver! Car at home bringing life to the street!
Did you have your assistant just crank it over or like other videos something like this, they recommend the accelerator being pushed to the floor at the same time as cranking over?
Hello friend, good afternoon, I have the same problem I went on a trip to Mexico City and the car lasted for about 5 months I want to start it and it does not start it does the same as yours I already tried to do the same I press but the fluid does not rise oil, my doubt is you press down or you move still side I tried to move still side and the part does not move. could you help me please 🙏
I had the same problem. Mine did not move either. I could not feel anything depressing when I pushed on it with screwdrivers and even made a pusher using metal cost hanger and still could not feel any movement or get oil to show up. I have 2013 fiat pop. Not sure if this actually works on all models although I see alot of comments from people saying it worked for them. Wonder if it could just be a coincidence that by having the oil cap removed and trying to start it is doing the actual work here. Mine finally primed after keeping the oil cap off and by pressing the gas pedal all the way to the floor board before putting the key in. Keep it pressed all the way down while turing key to second position (accessory position) pausing there to let engine pumps prime oil. By keeping the gas pedal pressed to the floor board it allows oil to prime without the fuel injectors flooding engine plugs. Keep doing this but give it 10 or 20 seconds in between starting so you don't burn out or over heat starter. Finally got mine started using this method after my fiat sat for over a year.
From what I understand you don't have to pull the fuel pump fuse, all you have to do is floor the accelerator and the injectors won't fire. Does the same thing as pulling the fuse.
@@shanesgettinghandy thanks for the reply. I gave it a good press with a screw driver but there wasn’t any give at all…Abarth still sitting at the bottom of my driveway 😕
@@whasupman Mine feels just like yours. I cannot push it down for the life of me. I weigh 200lbs, and at one point had myself completely propped up by the screw driver, but it still wouldn't budge. Any luck for you?
Don't do this, you can ruin your multi-air brick!! The multi-air system is very complex, it does use oil pressure in order to actuate the valves. As was stated by someone else here the correct way to start the car after it's been sitting is to pull the fuel pump fuse, crank the engine for about 15 seconds, do this a few times, make sure your battery is charged. Install the fuse and the car should start up.. I recently purchased a pop with a blown head gasket, I pulled the engine and am in the process of rebuilding, I found another engine and purchased it so I could experiment with it and not with my engine. The engine I purchased was listed as a non-running. I have not tried to start either engine as I knew there were problems with them, after running across this post I decided to look closely at both engines and the little check ball/valve that is being pressed down on. The engine that I purchased had notable scratches on the top of the multi-air brick at the check valve, apparently they tried this trick also! Apparently they pushed the check ball through and now it is in the multi-air brick, after taking the top plate of the brick off I found the ball floating around in there, but I can't find the retainer yet, this multi-air block is ruined now.. without the check ball in place the multi-air brick will not be able to sustain oil pressure to make the car run correctly, these are very complex engines and that is not what the check ball is there for, don't mess with it do it the correct way..
thanks for this tip. I was about to press on the ball but because of you I pulled the fuel injection fuse tried to start it 4xs for a bout 15sec each time and on the 4th time it worked. I think I put the fuse back in after the 3rd time. Now I need to fix the 4th cylinder misfire
@@rixon3984 you will have to do this three or four times, do not continue to keep cranking it do it for about 10-15 seconds at a time and let it set you will eventually build up pressure
Just sold our 124 spider because of this problem. Why this engine is in a convertible car , that will sit for 6 months or more is beyond me. Wish it had the Mazda engine instead.
Ojo con estos motores vienen con luces de armado muy olgadas chequeen eso si los reparan ...por eso se vacian hacia el carter cuando quedan si usarlos ...🏁
My 124 spider did the same thing. The best way is to drain the oil and when you replace the oil direct the oil to the same place as the hole where he was pushing the screwdriver. I would always discourage pushing a metal rod into an engine.
sadly stabbing that tiny ball valve with a blade screwdriver does nothing. You would have to have a scratch awl or similar in order to press the ball. What you have done is prime the multiair brick with oil by attempting multiple starts.
@@rwhipple73 One of us actually pushed a screwdriver and documented it in a video, the other only typed some words on a keyboard and didn't bother even trying.
Just another scenario I thought I'd share... We got in a Fiat with the Multiair engine and it didn't have any compression. We bought it from auction and it had been sitting for a while. We tried the oil in the check valve process many times and couldn't get it to work so as a last resort we tried compressed air straight into the check valve while cranking. It worked! Runs great now.
As insane as this sounded, your Fiat was doing the exact same thing as my wife's. Gave this a shot and, sure enough, it finally came to life. Thank you so much!
Excellent!
straight to the point indeed....
my favorite type of videos.
Finally!!!! I wasn't able to find the answer anywhere else. I got splattered too but it was so worth it.
I was able to get my 2013 500 started with the video and reading the comments i pulled the fuel pump fuse tried to start it a few times then put the fuse back in and it started without the risk of breaking the lil ball off in the brick. You are the best thanks
You saved me hours of work and frustration! I was sure it was the starter but checked YT one more time to be sure and found your video. Thanks!!
Happy to help! To me, this is what CZcams is all about... helping others.
Awesome vid straight to the point I just started my fiat 2 hours ago after she sat for a year!! Thanks!!!
Dude you saved my life!! I was already ordering a compression test kit, spark plugs and injectors coils! 🤟🏾
Your awesome for the quick tip and guide! Started after the third attempt.
Happy to help!
Thank you so much for this video. It will save a lot of people money. the dealer said it was the starter. Thank you again
Hi! It just happened to my Fiat 500. The same circumstance and symptoms. I also thought it was the timming belt... thank god it was not 🙏. Thanks for this great video.
I was away for 2 weeks and this resolved my issue!!! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Did it today, it really works. Thank you so much greetings from Guadalajara mate
Freakin A MAN!! You’re too awesome for this. I’m going to try this out when I get home. Mine had been sitting for months and I thought I was going to have to replace the whole engine. Then someone told me the crankshaft position sensor needs to be replaced. I’ll definitely try your method out first and go from there. I have a funny feeling that it’s gonna work!
Good luck! Let us know!
Got back from a 4 week vacation and the 2018 Fiat 500 C lounge no worky. Being in Arizona the heat can be a real battery killer. Tried charging battery but seemed okay. Did voltage check on battery, seemed okay although cranking voltage dropped to ~7 amps. Last minute thought was check for similar issue on CZcams and here we are. Your situation mirrored mine. Even same color vehicle but the 57 vintage style. Having the same Multi-air engine, the stated location for the bleed point was used while my assistant wife hit the ignition. Took about 4 attempts but when oil shot out of the oil filling port I knew we were getting somewhere. Took another 2 attempts but definitely could tell something was happening. Sure enough, baby Stella came back to life from the brink of utter financial car repairs. Thanks a bunch. I can be your 19th subscriber.
You're welcome! I knew I only had one chance to film this and get it right, too bad for the wind noise I didn't find out until later, but it was good enough! I have since bought a mic muff for my camera.
THANK YOU!!! so much. I just tried this after being on vacation for 12 weeks and it WORKED!!! No major car repair bills for me. You are so awesome for sharing this.
You're welcome! Happy I could help.
THANK YOU,THANK YOU! My 2012 Fiat pop did this about one month ago as it is now garaged and not used much and besides I prefer bicycles. Luckily the mechanic I use lives down hill from me, so I coasted down and dropped it off. They replaced the crankshaft sensor to the tune of $185. Drove car home and it sat for about 2-3 weeks before I tried to start it again. No dice. Coasted it back down to mechanic. This time, he told me not to let it sit and explained what was happening as you said. He of course did NOT show me how simple it is to get it going again! Had been running it once a week and today it did the same thing! Undaunted I searched the web and found your video. IT WORKED! NO MORE COASTING TO MECHANIC! Thanks again.
You're welcome!
This video was very helpful in helping me identify the issue. However, I did not have a helping hand, so I used the other method. I pulled the F21 (fuse #8), cranked the motor over 2 times for about 15 seconds, on the 3rd crank the compression came back. I put the fuse back in, cranked the motor, and she fired right up. Thank you so much for the help!!!!
Excellent!
Hello there, what's the F21 fuse for? Thanks
@@gavinb5784 Fuel Pump. Disabling builds compression. Then enabling after compression should fire it up.
Hope Tommorow my 0.9 twinair will workafter this guide 😢
Dude you’re a life saver! Saved me so much money with this. Thank you!
You’re welcome.
Thank you so much for this video! We couldn’t figure out what was wrong with my daughter’s 500. Took a few minutes, and made a mess but it is up and running again!
look at it this way it's a quirk and a anti theft device ( bleeding down all of the lifter's ) add in a manual transmission and most millennial's and gen-Z's wouldn't steel it lolz 😂
even i didn't know anything about this so id though it was junkyard time lol and im a little bit more savy under the hood of a car
It worked!! My Fiat 500L had been sitting for a while. We tried this and it really worked. We had to charge the battery first. After that we tried maybe 3 times and was about to give up then I noticed a little oil in the well and tried one more time. It worked. Thank you for sharing.
You're welcome!
@@shanesgettinghandy Guess what? Just had to do it again this year since I don't drive that often. This is so easy to do and I wasn't worrying like last time. Thanks so much!!!
Good tip! I've seen other videos that basically explain the issue is lost oil pressure in the intake valve train but not how you resolved it with that secret little plunger!
They were getting low oil pressure related engine codes but it was basically the same issue. Car stood a long time, oil drains out the multi air unit and won't operate the intake valves.
My Fiat Panda has the 0 9 twinair engine, same principal but only 2 cylinders. I'll have a look for that plunger! 😎👍😁
Let me know if it's the same/similar!
@@shanesgettinghandy Will have a look tomorrow! I suspect it will be the same, as the twinair engine uses the same process to control the intake valves.
Is it possible to operate the plunger with the dip stick?
@@pdtech4524 Any confirmation on that??
@@cliotec Not sure, haven't tried it but when you look down the oil filler there is definitely something like the top of a plunger and the dipstick is shaped like it could operate it.
Wouldn't surprise me if it has the same setup as it will have the same issue if left stood for some time.👍😎
This was great, I tried this and my vehicle fired right up.
I been trying to start my 2012 fiat all day since it's been sitting for 9 months, even had to buy new battery and charger since I killed the new battery after cranking and cranking. It's too late to try this now but first thing tomorrow I'm gonna give this a try and if it works I will come back and leave a comment update. I'm almost 100 percent sure this is gonna be the fix i was looking for. Thanks for posting this.
I hope it worked!
Well I gave this a shot thinking it was going to be the quick easy fix and I could get it to work. But alot of you tubing and diy work and I did manage to get my 2013 fiat running and driving again. It's been 3 years since I actually drove it. Forgot what a fun little car it is to drive. By the way, when you pressed on that tiny ball bearing down in there could you feel it depressing? I couldn't feel any movement in mine using a screwdriver like you did. I even tried a metal cost hanger since it seemed to fit better but still nothing. Im not really sure if pressing on this actually does anything at all on my car but it looks exactly the same.
@@mpowersmedia3219 can you put the links to what you did my 2013 is having the same issues
and the screw driver didn't work but i was really hopeful!!!
Thank you so much, this video saved me.
Straight forward to the point!! Thanks for the video it did help.
You're welcome!
Worked perfectly on my 2018 Abarth 129. Many thanks
Excellent!
Thank you so much for this video. I was already looking into buying buy an engine at the salvage yard. help me a lot. Thank you very much.
You’re welcome!
Thank you very much. 😊 I was in the same situation and tried it out.😮 Voila!!!! It worked out great !!!! My worries are over. 😂
Good to hear!
The intake valves on "Multiair" engines are basically hydraulically actuated. This pressure comes from engine oil stored in the "Multiair brick". The "brick" has small, small holes in the bottom that allow the oil to drain back to the sump, although at quite a slow rate. It's fed oil from the engine through the top of the "brick." It does this so the "brick" receives clean, recirculated oil from the engine. It just doesn't circulate NEAR as much as the the rest of the engine.
Thanks for the info!
It worked, I just got it started, So helpful!!!!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't know this method but on a Twinair if you disconnect the fuel injectors and coil packs then crank the starter for a couple of seconds then pause a few times it will build up oil pressure back up and it will start.
Thank you 🙏 You really saved me from a fraudulent mechanic
You're welcome!
Worked on my roadside customer just now thanks man. Use a Philips!
Excellent!
Nice Shane! Thank you, this worked for us
Good to hear!
Hi !
Thanks for your video , i have the same problem , now it's ok !
You're welcome!
I did this with my fiat, thank You God sent
You’re welcome!
Hi, I hope you can help me, I have a similar problem with a MiTo, I left it stopped for more than a month and makes the same sound as your Fiat when you want to start it. Can I do the same procedure with my car?
Thank you! Worked like a charm. 😎❤️👍
Excellent!
is there a chance where you are sticking the screwdriver it could be stuck?? what are you supposed to feel? does it push down.
You saved me sir ! That was my issue
You are welcome!
Same issue, thanks!
Well, let me tell my story before thanking you for your video. I kept my late Father's (90yrs)2012 Yellow 500 for sentimental reasons. I don't have it licenced, but it sits during the warm months on the driveway as a reminder of his warm spirit. In the winter, I store it close by in the parking garage of a condo. Well, its time to remove the car and bring it home as they will clean the garage for the season and every car has to be out! To my dismay after putting the batt back in the car cranked and no start...................shoot!! what to do? I thought full pump? I dont think i heard it prime when i turned the key?! Well, now I need to get a tow? not out of the garage, truck wont fit me thinks......I will have to tow with car out to street, then home by a tow truck.!! shoot! what a hassle!
Let me check the interweb?! So I come across your video.............seems like a bunch of malarkey to be honest........screwdriver in the oil fill ...........good one?? What is to lose? splash of oil on the safety glasses? ok i will try? I'm desperate. Sure enough, although not the right hole at first(insert joke here)I managed with the help of a friend to START it up!!!! What a F ing relief!!!
thank you Brother, life saver! Car at home bringing life to the street!
I could barely believe it when I did it too, you can see my surprise in the video! Sorry to hear about your Dad, but happy I could help!
Working on a 2012 multi air replaced starter it cranks but won't start. It worked fine before the starter went out.
Thank You 🙏 it worked !!
You're welcome!
Bro. Got bless you
Thank you soooooooooooo much!!!!!!!
Any time!
Amazing video! Thanks for it! How many miles in this 500, when this happend?
I think it was around 90k at the time, but I’m pretty sure the real issue was letting it sit for too long.
Holy crap I was about to say f it and got to a mechanic thank you
You're welcome!
Excellent!!!!!!
Happy to help!
It worked for me
Did you have your assistant just crank it over or like other videos something like this, they recommend the accelerator being pushed to the floor at the same time as cranking over?
I’d try that and if it doesn’t work, try this!
I want to thank you a lot i drive my little baby every day i was having that at list 3 times a day best Regards!!!
Hi, does this method work on a Fiat Punto multi air turbo too? I seem to be experiencing the same problem. Crunks but cant start.
I would guess so, but I have never seen one in person, so I can't be certain. If it works for you, please let us know!
I need your advise, I'm thinking of buying a 500 to tow behind my motorhome because it's small, light and fairly inexpensive. Should I buy one?
If it will be sitting for long periods of time unused, no. Otherwise, I don't see why not.
Hello friend, good afternoon, I have the same problem I went on a trip to Mexico City and the car lasted for about 5 months I want to start it and it does not start it does the same as yours I already tried to do the same I press but the fluid does not rise oil, my doubt is you press down or you move still side I tried to move still side and the part does not move. could you help me please 🙏
I had the same problem. Mine did not move either. I could not feel anything depressing when I pushed on it with screwdrivers and even made a pusher using metal cost hanger and still could not feel any movement or get oil to show up. I have 2013 fiat pop. Not sure if this actually works on all models although I see alot of comments from people saying it worked for them. Wonder if it could just be a coincidence that by having the oil cap removed and trying to start it is doing the actual work here. Mine finally primed after keeping the oil cap off and by pressing the gas pedal all the way to the floor board before putting the key in. Keep it pressed all the way down while turing key to second position (accessory position) pausing there to let engine pumps prime oil. By keeping the gas pedal pressed to the floor board it allows oil to prime without the fuel injectors flooding engine plugs. Keep doing this but give it 10 or 20 seconds in between starting so you don't burn out or over heat starter. Finally got mine started using this method after my fiat sat for over a year.
From what I understand you don't have to pull the fuel pump fuse, all you have to do is floor the accelerator and the injectors won't fire. Does the same thing as pulling the fuse.
I will try in the morning!!
Update: it worked. Had to charge battery first, and then the plugger trick worked after a few minutes
What did you do with the screw driver? Push down? I have this same issue, but I can't figure out what you're doing with the screw driver.
Push down. It's a bit stiff.
@@shanesgettinghandy had nearly my full body weight on it. Wouldn’t budge.
My moma fiat has the same issue but the valve wont push in. Should it move easily or do i have to beat on it to break it loose?
I had to press harder than I thought, that’s why it took two tries.
@@shanesgettinghandy okay i puahed pretty hard and tried banding on it with my hand. If i give it a little love with a hammer think ill brake it?
Anybody know fix for 500x with 2.4 multiair engine?
Change the oil regularly and keep the engine bay clean. You can wash the engine no problem.
Correction, I meant 7 volts, not amps.
Thanks for that movie
You're welcome
How hard do you have to push on the ball valve?
It's a bit stiff, and required a firm press.
@@shanesgettinghandy thanks for the reply. I gave it a good press with a screw driver but there wasn’t any give at all…Abarth still sitting at the bottom of my driveway 😕
Did you have to push down the hole or push to the side?
Push down on the center of the object in the hole.
@@shanesgettinghandy
Alright man,I'll try,thanks
Does this also happen on the Abarth?
I wish I knew, but unfortunately I have no idea if it's the same.
It should since the North American version of the Abarth uses the Multiair engine. Mine never sits so I've never had this problem.
did you have to push specifically on the ball in the center, or just jam it in there and hold in general?
I had to press the ball in the center down. Also, it was a bit stiffer to push down than I first thought, that's why it didn't work the first time.
@@shanesgettinghandy thanks - I cannot for the life of me get mine to feel like it moves at all.
Hi
I'm having the same problem and tried a you showed but the part/button inside the oil hole wouldn't budge. How much pressure was used?
Thank you!
Hey Carlos, it was stiffer than I initially thought, that's why it took me two tries in the video, I had to press somewhat firmly.
@@shanesgettinghandy
I'll give it another try, I appreciate your reply!
great littles cars ,everything needs maintenance.
For some reason, I cant push the bleed valve. It feels stuck. How hard did you have to press it?
It was harder than I thought it might be, that's why it took me two tries.
@@shanesgettinghandy Do you feel that it is moving at all when you push against it? Mine just feel like im pushing against a solid piece of metal. Hmm
@@whasupman Yes, it moves a little.
@@whasupman Mine feels just like yours. I cannot push it down for the life of me. I weigh 200lbs, and at one point had myself completely propped up by the screw driver, but it still wouldn't budge. Any luck for you?
read the above comments and disconnect the fuel pump fuse instead
Fiat 💯 years ahead..
Now I just need to get a non-running fiat 500
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Don't do this, you can ruin your multi-air brick!! The multi-air system is very complex, it does use oil pressure in order to actuate the valves. As was stated by someone else here the correct way to start the car after it's been sitting is to pull the fuel pump fuse, crank the engine for about 15 seconds, do this a few times, make sure your battery is charged. Install the fuse and the car should start up.. I recently purchased a pop with a blown head gasket, I pulled the engine and am in the process of rebuilding, I found another engine and purchased it so I could experiment with it and not with my engine. The engine I purchased was listed as a non-running. I have not tried to start either engine as I knew there were problems with them, after running across this post I decided to look closely at both engines and the little check ball/valve that is being pressed down on. The engine that I purchased had notable scratches on the top of the multi-air brick at the check valve, apparently they tried this trick also! Apparently they pushed the check ball through and now it is in the multi-air brick, after taking the top plate of the brick off I found the ball floating around in there, but I can't find the retainer yet, this multi-air block is ruined now.. without the check ball in place the multi-air brick will not be able to sustain oil pressure to make the car run correctly, these are very complex engines and that is not what the check ball is there for, don't mess with it do it the correct way..
thanks for this tip. I was about to press on the ball but because of you I pulled the fuel injection fuse tried to start it 4xs for a bout 15sec each time and on the 4th time it worked. I think I put the fuse back in after the 3rd time. Now I need to fix the 4th cylinder misfire
Ive got a 1.4 giulietta and I'm tempted to ty it, but wouldn't cranking it for too long ruin the starter motor?
@@rixon3984 you will have to do this three or four times, do not continue to keep cranking it do it for about 10-15 seconds at a time and let it set you will eventually build up pressure
Wish I'd seen this. I pushed hard as per the recommendation, when it finally moved, it slipped. Ball is stuck in there now.
I did this and my fiat still runs strong as ever!
Just sold our 124 spider because of this problem. Why this engine is in a convertible car , that will sit for 6 months or more is beyond me. Wish it had the Mazda engine instead.
It's a bit of a frustrating issue for sure.
I let my car sit literally for one day an I tried to start it rn an it’s dead
Lil Dave
Those multiair units are only problems😢
Ojo con estos motores vienen con luces de armado muy olgadas chequeen eso si los reparan ...por eso se vacian hacia el carter cuando quedan si usarlos ...🏁
My 124 spider did the same thing. The best way is to drain the oil and when you replace the oil direct the oil to the same place as the hole where he was pushing the screwdriver. I would always discourage pushing a metal rod into an engine.
Jodia bola q mucho fastidia😂
i was thinking of buying a used 500, but after your video...not a chance. what a pile of junk.
Italian quirks ..🙄🙄
That's a garbage engine I got one .same problem it gets worst with time. I have 2 crank mine 2 times every time to start.
That's unfortunate for sure. Gotta be honest, I sold mine...
Well...that does it...I'll pass on a 500.
Is this just poor design? I can't believe it worked for me, but seriously Fiat.
Not the greatest design...
sadly stabbing that tiny ball valve with a blade screwdriver does nothing. You would have to have a scratch awl or similar in order to press the ball. What you have done is prime the multiair brick with oil by attempting multiple starts.
You may be right, but I also certainly felt the ball depress while pushing. Either case it started. 🤷♂️
@@shanesgettinghandythere is no way you even touched the ball with a blade screwdriver like that, but okay. 👍
@@rwhipple73 Not only did I touch the ball, I depressed it, but okay. 👍
@@shanesgettinghandy hahahaha. Keep telling yourself that lie. Look again.
Some know nothing internet wanna be mechanic might believe you.
@@rwhipple73 One of us actually pushed a screwdriver and documented it in a video, the other only typed some words on a keyboard and didn't bother even trying.